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Brian Deese

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“The summer of 2007, which was the summer after my second year of law school, I went down and I started first volunteering for the campaign and then I stayed on with the campaign doing economic policy for her throughout the fall and that was the period of overlap where my third year of law school intersected with that job so I was less unilaterally focused on law than I would have been otherwise. But that was a Yeah, it was a period of it was it was a lot of fun, but it was also just sort of a crazy period in life where I was doing going 175%”
2017-05-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 151 - Brian Deese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It was useful, it was useful for me, more useful than, frankly, I had anticipated. I learned more at the beginning of my law school career than I ever anticipated about how to think about problems and realized that I was insufficiently equipped before that to really think rigorously about some of these challenges. So I benefited a lot from it, but not in the conventional way that people traditionally go into that.”
2017-05-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 151 - Brian Deese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And, you know, I said at the time my intention, I'm extraordinarily interested in the intellectual benefits that you get from a law degree, but I don't have any intention in practicing law. And they were actually quite welcoming of that approach. I think that law degrees, it is the degree of practice for policymaking at the end of the day, all of policy is law in one way or another. You're making law, you're implementing law, regulation is a”
2017-05-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 151 - Brian Deese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And so that got me interested in asking those same set of questions, but for the United States and within communities within the United States and otherwise. So I was really interested intellectually in those questions. But part of this was that I also knew myself and knew that I was oriented more toward action than study. And so I didn't think that I had the patience to go study economics in a formal academic way. And so I went to law school, as you say, as a lot of people do when they're thinking about what they want to do and how they want to learn.”
2017-05-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 151 - Brian Deese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The answer, which is not that surprising but was important in terms of understanding the efficacy of policy, was that governance mattered a lot and that at the end of the day, countries that had effective governance regimes, minimally credible institutions, providing debt relief did actually end up having a flow through impact. And countries where that wasn't the case, it was very difficult to tell what was accomplished.”
2017-05-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 151 - Brian Deese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Questions about, you know, for example, can you design social policy interventions that actually are effective at targeting the population? So, for example, I would spend a lot of time looking at the question, you remember at the end of the 1990s, one of the things that Clinton did on his way out was provide debt relief. It was associated with the Jubilee movement and the Jubilee year provide debt relief to a number of countries in Africa. And I spent some time looking at the question of was that actually an effective way of improving health and education outcomes for people in those countries. You saw echoes of those questions in communities in the United States where effectively”
2017-05-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 151 - Brian Deese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I did. I did. So I came out of school. I came out of undergrad being very intellectually curious and excited about understanding how economies work and how they can work for the benefit of people or to the detriment of people. I spent a while focused on other economies, looking outside doing research on other countries in Africa, South Asia, and otherwise. And over time, I got particularly intrigued by the fact that a lot of these questions that I was asking in a research context I was seeing in the community that I lived in and in the country that I lived in. And so I got more interested in.”
2017-05-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 151 - Brian Deese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, that's And goes way beyond the campus environment. We're not going to be able to start to get at some of the underlying problems that are plaguing the country if we also can't learn to be strong, but civil in the way that we disagree with each other.”
2017-05-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 151 - Brian Deese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, and I think that part of being strong is learning that if you let your emotions get the best of you or you overreact and you start using violence rather than your intellect or otherwise, then you're really undercut your own, you know, effort. And look, there's a bigger, I think your right this taps into a bigger anxiety and anger that's out there. But I also think that it goes beyond the candidates.”
2017-05-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 151 - Brian Deese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And her name's Alison Stanger, and she was one of my professors and one of my advisors and a mentor to me when I was there. And look, I think the... The whole thing is sad, it reflects pretty poorly on Middlebury in a way that I don't think is fair or represents the Middlebury community. I guess part of my reaction is that It's a good example of how if you are going to organize and you're going to protest, you need to think about what your goal is and what your objectives are. And so, you know, because I think also one of the punchlines out of this is that a protest that came from totally legitimate, from a totally legitimate place has now turned this thing all the way over onto its head.”
2017-05-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 151 - Brian Deese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You know, it's funny. I again This is more of a story of happenstance than grand design. I came out of, I went to college and I didn't really know what I wanted to do. And I had a set of great professors early on in my undergraduate. I went to Middlebury in Vermont.”
2017-05-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 151 - Brian Deese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I was extraordinarily fortunate to grow up in a household where there was a lot of priority put on intellectual creativity and exploration and had in some ways the sort of two sides of the brain in my mom and my dad. And my older sister was a very science and mathematically oriented person. And so I also grew up in a household where I had two strong women role models who were both way more oriented toward understanding math and science than I knew I ever would be.”
2017-05-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 151 - Brian Deese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, that's right. My dad, I grew up in a family where my dad was an academic and was very focused on political science. And my mother was an engineer and was focused on environmental issues, but from a science and engineering perspective.”
2017-05-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 151 - Brian Deese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, it's a question that I sometimes ask myself because it certainly wasn't my hope or expectation or plan that I would happen into the series of events that led me to that string that you just described.”
2017-05-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 151 - Brian Deese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source