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Brian Schimpf

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  1. “Or keep our troops out of the fights out of the fight. And it changes the calculus quite a bit. And so I think that actually in a lot of ways, if done well, has a significant kind of stabilizing impact and in turn impact. It just is harder to use force to get your political ends. Yes, exactly. And I think that can be a very positive thing.”

    2025-01-28 · a16z Podcast · How AI Is Changing Warfare with Brian Schimpf, CEO of Anduril · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  2. “And I think also the terrence factor of the US saying, I have this capability. And I've reduced my political cost of engaging on these things. It's actually a pretty good deterrent as well. I'm not putting US troops, or I can give this to all And they can defend themselves. And so”

    2025-01-28 · a16z Podcast · How AI Is Changing Warfare with Brian Schimpf, CEO of Anduril · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  3. “Yeah. Is it more humane to have a fighter pilot in the way of danger or having an autonomous system? Piloting a conflict. And by the way, I have friends who are fighter pilots. I love fighter pilots. But the technology has advanced significantly. And you can make the argument that it is more humane not to put them in the line of fire. That's the danger, right? Yeah.”

    2025-01-28 · a16z Podcast · How AI Is Changing Warfare with Brian Schimpf, CEO of Anduril · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  4. “Why would that be the case in warfare? That's right. And so I think the reality for these things that's going to be human augmentation that is going to be enabling human software at a much larger scale with much higher precision on these things. And that is the opportunity with it. And so to me, it is unethical to not apply these technologies to these problems. And I think our view has always been, if we're the best technologists on these problems, or we can get the best technologists to it, giving the best tools on these absolutely critical decisions that are extremely material, that seems like probably a good thing. And engaging in the question of how can you use this technology responsibly and ethically is incredibly important.”

    2025-01-28 · a16z Podcast · How AI Is Changing Warfare with Brian Schimpf, CEO of Anduril · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  5. “Well, I think it's also far fetched in the sense that it presumes some sort of objective function that isn't driven by us. This is my conversation with everybody when they come like, oh my God, what about when the AI goes Terminator on us? I'm like,”

    2025-01-28 · a16z Podcast · How AI Is Changing Warfare with Brian Schimpf, CEO of Anduril · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  6. “Yeah. And so the more you can have AI augmentation for these things and synthesis and like clarity, that is where the promise of this is. And so the US posture on this is very much, we want to have humans accountable for what happens in war That is how it should be, right? The military commander that employs a weapon is accountable for the impact of those weapons That is correct. I think that is the system we should have. And so then nobody is talking about having full-blown AI is going to decide who lives and dies. That is a crazy version that nobody wants to have.”

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  7. “That is where I think the autonomy side really comes in, which is I can just drive scale into the number of systems I can operate in the environment. The promise of AI in a lot of ways in the long run with this is just the ability to scale the types of operations I'm doing, the amount of information I have. And if done very well, it will put humans into a place of sort of better decision making. Instead of being inundated by a volume of data and then all of our capacity goes to these mechanical tasks. We can have humans with much better context, much better understanding, historical understanding of what this means, what the implications of different choices are. Those are all things that AI can enable over time.”

    2025-01-28 · a16z Podcast · How AI Is Changing Warfare with Brian Schimpf, CEO of Anduril · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  8. “Ukraine, Russia, exactly. It's all like manually piloted But that doesn't really scale, and there presents a lot of limitations on communication shamming, all these things. So I want to be able to task a team of drones to go out and say, hey, go in this area and find any ships and tell me where they are. I just wanted to be that simple. I just need to figure out their own route. And if I lose some of them, they rebalance. They just go out and handle it. Running target recognition, they can pop back whatever's relevant.”

    2025-01-28 · a16z Podcast · How AI Is Changing Warfare with Brian Schimpf, CEO of Anduril · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  9. “Like processing, but also just operationally. So, okay, now I say I had a perfect AI system that could tell me where every ship, aircraft, and soldier was in the world, what are you going to do with that? Now I know everything. That is overwhelming, right? And so then being able to sit through that information to, well, okay, they're maneuvering here. What does that imply? Is this an aggressive action? Is it outside their norms? Is this different than we've seen in the past? Being able to pull out that signal from just this overwhelming amount of information that exists. And then on the other side, you got to act, right? So now I've got to actually be able to carry out these missions. Yeah. So this is where on the autonomy side it really comes in, which is, okay, I want to send fighter pilots out. So the way they do like a predator drone today is like a guy with a joystick.”

    2025-01-28 · a16z Podcast · How AI Is Changing Warfare with Brian Schimpf, CEO of Anduril · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  10. “The sensors are deployed, right? They're going to get better and you're going to be cheaper and you're going to be able to do more of them. But a lot of the limit of why can't we do more is what the hell are you going to do with the data?”

    2025-01-28 · a16z Podcast · How AI Is Changing Warfare with Brian Schimpf, CEO of Anduril · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  11. “They are trying to find where the adversaries are. Yes. They need to then deploy effects against them that can be a strike, that can be deterring them by a show of force. That can be jamming and non-kinetic things. And they've got to then assess did that actually work, right? Find them. You got to engage and you got to assess, right? It's like pretty straightforward. That is the primary thing that the military does. And so, okay, what do you need to do that? You need a ton of sensors. You need a ton of information on what is going on with an advertiser who's constantly trying to hide from you and deceive you. So just huge amounts of information to make that problem as intractable as possible for them to be able to hide or when they are deceiving, you can figure it out. Yeah. Hard to deceive in every single phenomenology of sensing.”

    2025-01-28 · a16z Podcast · How AI Is Changing Warfare with Brian Schimpf, CEO of Anduril · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  12. “Talk about that. So, when I think about where AI is going to drive Most value for warfare and is dealing with the scale problem, which is really the amount of information that is the number of sensors, the sheer volume of systems that are going to be fielded, it's going to go through the roof.”

    2025-01-28 · a16z Podcast · How AI Is Changing Warfare with Brian Schimpf, CEO of Anduril · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  13. “I'm going to ask you a lot more about that stuff. But one of the things that people say to me all the time, and you hear it in speeches and all this stuff, like AI is going to change the nature of warfare The one hand, the major breakthrough that we just had, the way everyone interacts with it is like Chat bot and an LLM. It's pretty It's amazing Awesome. I use it for everything, but what are the implications of this new wave of AI generative AI on modern warfare physical sense? Software side”

    2025-01-28 · a16z Podcast · How AI Is Changing Warfare with Brian Schimpf, CEO of Anduril · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  14. “So, first product we worked on was what we call sentry. It's for border security. And this was a Palmer idea. He believed that tech could actually solve this. So we have these automated cameras with radars. We can monitor the border for miles away from these cameras. And he was like, this is something we could solve super fast with technology. And it really kind of hit what has ended up being a very good pattern for us is find an urgent problem that actually has a real tech solution. that we can apply the cutting edge technologies to so early on is 2017 computer vision was just starting to work it wasn't even really embedded gpus yet we were literally taking desktop gpus and liquid cooling them to get these things to work in a hot desert under solar power but we were able to go and get a prototype up in about three months and then move into like a pilot in about six months and then full scale in about two and a half years so really really quick timeline but i kind of fit”

    2025-01-28 · a16z Podcast · How AI Is Changing Warfare with Brian Schimpf, CEO of Anduril · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  15. “Yeah. So I was at Palantir for about 10 years. I had been working on a variety of government programs and then several of the co-founders, so Trey Stevens was also a Palatine, Matt Grimm, our COO as a Palatir. And we're all really good friends. And we've been talking about doing this idea of there needs to be a next generation defense company. And then Trey and Palmer met through VC World and Palmer was just getting out of Oculus. And he was like, the same thing I want to do. And so we decided to kick this off together. But for me, working in defense, it was just obvious the degree to which there was a problem. You work in this space, the tech is old, it is not moving fast. It is very lethargic. There are relatively few competitors at this point. It just felt very right to do something different. And it's the sort of thing that once you get into it, the people who are actually serving just have this patriotic motivation to solve the problem. It's just very, very motivating problem to work on.”

    2025-01-28 · a16z Podcast · How AI Is Changing Warfare with Brian Schimpf, CEO of Anduril · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  16. “All right, so we were founded in 2017. We're about seven years in. The basic idea was we thought there was a better way to make defense technology. So number one, the tech for the next 20 or 30 years was going to be primarily how do you just have more cheap, autonomous systems on the battlefield, just more sensors, just more information flowing in. That seemed like it had to be true. So we invested in the core software platform we call Lattice that enables us to make sense of all these things. We have built a variety of autonomous products that we fielded over the last seven years. Just an outrageous pace. And we're really working on all aspects of national security and defense.”

    2025-01-28 · a16z Podcast · How AI Is Changing Warfare with Brian Schimpf, CEO of Anduril · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source