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Cara Swisher

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“Yes and smart enough. Yes, he did. He was very clever. He was really, he's a math guy. If you think right now he's having the best midlife crisis of anyone's life. Come on. You're like fantastic again with the outfit. What are we doing? Everyone made fun of that. I loved every bit of that. Everyone was like, isn't that ridiculous? I'm like, no, it's the best thing ever with the patent.”
2024-02-29 · On with Kara Swisher · The Burn Book Kick-Off with Don Lemon · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I did. The internet boys always acted like they were 12, you know, like, oh, hi, I'm wearing soft clothes and, you know, jumping on Pogo sticks. That was their game. Jeff was intense and he was really feral. That's the first word I wrote down about him. He was like, he was a business guy. He was a logistics guy. And so he was so aggressive compared to them that it was, they feigned sweetness. He did not. He did not feign sweetness. And so Ferrell, he wanted to dominate.”
2024-02-29 · On with Kara Swisher · The Burn Book Kick-Off with Don Lemon · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You tell me I met Jeff when he started the company. He was very eager. He was older than everyone else I covered. Most people were much younger, and Jeff had a career, had a very successful, he was a very well-regarded, fast-track under 30 math geek who was at an investment firm.”
2024-02-29 · On with Kara Swisher · The Burn Book Kick-Off with Don Lemon · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Where you write what you really think in the book. And so it's always funny, it's kind of gossipy, it's been in a bunch of different movies, you know, a burn book and then the person who writes it always gets, remember at the end, Regina George, it's throwing the burn book out. And so everybody gets to see what everybody thinks of them. And so that's what it is to me. It's my burn book over the years. And it's not all burn. I love tech. So it's not, it's sort of, and the love story part is because it is a love story gone wrong, which is, I love country music, so there you have it.”
2024-02-29 · On with Kara Swisher · The Burn Book Kick-Off with Don Lemon · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No, I want to burn this book, I'd call it Burn This Book, which was already a book by someone. Burn book is, if you see Mean Girls, is the idea that you have this book in high school.”
2024-02-29 · On with Kara Swisher · The Burn Book Kick-Off with Don Lemon · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Going to do about this because it wasn't clean. And so they wrapped it in plastic, and it was buzzing during my entire cesarean.”
2024-02-29 · On with Kara Swisher · The Burn Book Kick-Off with Don Lemon · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I had a ricochet that's called a ricochet. It was a Paul Allen company, and I taped it on the back. It was this little flat thing. It was early wireless. It was early wireless. And he had these big things he hung from certain cities. They did it in San Francisco, so it was easier. They had him in airports. And so I had a ricochet modem. But I got rid of my landline. That was one of my first articles for the journal in 97. Like I got rid of it. I was like, we're done with landlines. We're done. I mean, I have one in San Francisco because of earthquakes, so everyone has one there. I was like, everyone's going to be mobile. It just doesn't. And I had the little blackberry, the first one, you know, and I was actually holding that in my hand when my son was born because I was texting with Walt. And so I had it in my hand. I had an emergency C-section. And they rushed me in. It was in my hand. And my brother's a doctor in the same hospital. And they go, oh, it's Kara's techie sister.”
2024-02-29 · On with Kara Swisher · The Burn Book Kick-Off with Don Lemon · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I am a terrible employee because I can't, like, I would get in meetings and they'd be like one meeting, it was insane at the, they did a Saturday journal, and I was like, no, take all the money and put it into digital. Give me the money. I'll do a digital site. And I understood why they did it, but they were in love with print, and I was not in love with print. I stopped reading print publications. And I read them online. And so one of the things that drove me crazy was like, they had these periodic meetings. And I was still young at the time. And they're like, how do we get, like, it was always old people, like older white men? And they're like, how do we get young people to read the newspaper? And I was like, they ain't. And it doesn't mean they're not liking media. It means they're not reading a broadsheet anymore. They have other ways of accessing media. I said to tape a joint between every page and they kicked me out of the media. Yeah.”
2024-02-29 · On with Kara Swisher · The Burn Book Kick-Off with Don Lemon · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Let's not stack rank who's the worst employee on this one. Now you're working for yourself now, Don. What do you fucking care”
2024-02-29 · On with Kara Swisher · The Burn Book Kick-Off with Don Lemon · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“They're spending $4 for every 20 cents they make. How's this gonna go for after a while? They're gonna run out of money, and it was too early. It wasn't directionally wrong, it was executionally wrong at the moment. And so I wanted to say that, and the editor actually said to me, can you get someone to say what you said? And I No, why would I do that? Well, we need to put a to be sure. Some people think web van is great. And I was like, to be sure they're stupid if they say that. And this was me as an employee. It was really not good.”
2024-02-29 · On with Kara Swisher · The Burn Book Kick-Off with Don Lemon · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Know, you had to be straight. I was a beat reporter. That's what I was. I covered the internet beat, and that was my thing. So you couldn't say What got to me is I kept seeing all this ridiculousness in terms of valuations and everything else. It was way ahead of its skis in terms of stuff. But you couldn't say it. And some of it at the beginning of every one of these tech booms, there's a fraudulent part of it. I still thought they were going to be huge. I still thought this is going to be a huge group of people. And so I tried really hard to get the people that I was writing for interested in it, but I couldn't tell them like I couldn't say this is good, this is bad as a beat reporter. You can't do that. You just couldn't at the time. And so one of the things a journal had was this to be sure statement. And if you're a journalist, you know this. To be sure, some people say, you know, like you have to do the counter. You know, some people think Donald Trump isn't crazy. I'm like, who except for the magazine? No, and so it was web van. And I was writing about web van and I looked at the math and I can do math and I can do accounting and I'm like, this is not going to work.”
2024-02-29 · On with Kara Swisher · The Burn Book Kick-Off with Don Lemon · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I hated it. It was so compromised. I had covered parties for the style section, so I had to be in that, and I hated it. I hated it. I thought it was, I called it the velvet coffin, you know, and you're supposed to love it. I'm sorry to say that, but that's what it felt like. And I didn't want to cover that because it was so insular and so small. And I kept thinking as when I started to meet the tech people that these were going to be the rulers of the world, not these guys kind of thing.”
2024-02-29 · On with Kara Swisher · The Burn Book Kick-Off with Don Lemon · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I thought it would be huge. I did, or I wouldn't have devoted my career because the Washington Post, as you know, I think, was I had written a series of stories as a retail reporter about a family called The Half Family. It got me really well known. It was a very wealthy family. They were fighting with each other. It was like succession. You know, and everybody loved this story because it was a crazy rich guy with a pompadour. His son had a lesser Pompadour. And they fought with, and there was a gay son. It was like I was doing dynasty. And people loved it. And every day Ben Bradley would go, good job, kid. And you'd be like, yay, Ben Bradley, call me kid. And so I was on my way to cover the White House. That was the winning thing at the Washington Post is you get to the White House or you got to the political coverage. And I couldn't be less interested.”
2024-02-29 · On with Kara Swisher · The Burn Book Kick-Off with Don Lemon · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Don't realize it, and I had seen it happen before when AOL bought ads on Prodigy. And the Prodigy people called me at that time and said, we got more ads from AOL. I'm like, no, don't give them ads. They're going to compete with you. And it's sort of like Pepsi bragging that Coke gave them advertising money.”
2024-02-29 · On with Kara Swisher · The Burn Book Kick-Off with Don Lemon · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That's right. They put Google. Yahoo was not an algorithmic website. It was a directory. People hand put those things in the websites. I did a story for the Wall Street Journal. They hand put them in, which you can't believe. They could do that now. They needed an algorithmic as things got bigger as it went from 1,000 websites to 10,000 to 100,000. And so they hired Google as a vendor to do that. And one of the things they did was they put the little Google colorful little logo on the Yahoo page, which was the most important internet page at the time, which is free marketing. And everyone started clicking on the Google logo and going straight to Google and not using the Yahoo directory.”
2024-02-29 · On with Kara Swisher · The Burn Book Kick-Off with Don Lemon · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No one does. No one does. No, what I said was I was at Google, it was at early Google, and it was a very small company at the time. And one of the things that got them bigger was one is investment from Yahoo. Yahoo gave them an investment, a very important investment they needed. And they owned a lot of that.”
2024-02-29 · On with Kara Swisher · The Burn Book Kick-Off with Don Lemon · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Media and digital, like I thought they were the same thing and all the time. And I think one of the problems that media had was they never, it's just the change, right? It's transportation, but you're not in a cart, you're in a car, right? And so I think one of the problems for media was they always thought it was the other and not sort of an adjunct to their business when it was their business. And a lot of people were very slow. Some were quicker than others. But for the most part, they thought technologists were their friends, right? That they were there to help them. And technology people put themselves out that way. We're here to give you tools for the future, that kind of thing. And I always used to say to media people, I'm like, do you know that old Twilight Zone episode to serve man? Yes. It's a cookbook. Like they want to eat you and they want to take what you have. And so, and they were like, no, they're here to give us websites. I'm like, no, they're going to own you someday.”
2024-02-29 · On with Kara Swisher · The Burn Book Kick-Off with Don Lemon · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Right. Well, no, it's old. It's media. That's what I was going to say. Is old? I never liked that designation, like old media, new media. It was weird. I found it weird. And one of the things they used to do at the Washington Post, it was...”
2024-02-29 · On with Kara Swisher · The Burn Book Kick-Off with Don Lemon · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Hi everyone from New York Magazine and the Vox Media Podcast Network. This is on with Carol Swisher and I'm Cara Swisher. I've got some big news to share if you haven't heard already, my latest book, aptly titled Burn Book, a Tech Love Story, came out earlier this week. Over the next few weeks, I'll be on tour around the country speaking at live events with tech CEOs, politicians, and investors, including many of the people I wrote about. It should be interesting to have the tables turned on me. We'll see if they can do it. Today's guest host is former CNN anchor Don Lemon. Don was one of the network's top stars until he was ousted last year for, among other things, saying that Nikki Haley isn't in her prime. Well, Don is in his fifties and apparently not too old for a reboot, which is great. He announced in January he's planning to launch his own show on the platform formerly known as Twitter very soon. Don and I got into it in front of a sold-out audience at New York's ninety-second Street Y earlier this week.”
2024-02-29 · On with Kara Swisher · The Burn Book Kick-Off with Don Lemon · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT