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“Thank you for coming all of this way. And thank you, Jenny Thiessen, too, for joining us from Minnesota. Book is I'll Never Call Him Dad Again. And as you have heard from this conversation, it is a riveting and a harrowing read. It is available now on Amazon and I want to take a moment to say if you or you are or you suspect you are the victim of a sexual assault. What we have said here today sounds familiar to you, blacking out and can't remember things and this doesn't make sense and all of that, the signals, call the National Sexual Assault Hotline. There's a number on your screen. 1-8-6-5-6-4-6-7-3. Go well. Can subscribe to the Oprah podcast on YouTube and follow us on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen. I'll see you next week. Thanks, everybody”
2025-03-17 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Caroline Darian: First Us Interview Since Her Father Dominique Pelicot’s Shocking Trial · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yes. And, you know, one of the things that I think, you know, nothing this horrible ever happened to me, and I know many of you who will read, I'll never call him dad again. Hopefully nothing so egregious and despicable ever happens to you. But I think what you said earlier in the hypothetical letter to your father is true. When you have been betrayed and severely betrayed by someone, the hardest thing for anybody who has experienced that kind of betrayal is to admit that you actually never knew who you were. Especially if it's somebody you thought was a good and honest person. And to have to admit to yourself, you know what? I just didn't know. I didn't know who you were and be able to forgive yourself for that and be able to, as Jenny said, to move forward. I thank you so much, Caroline. Thank you.”
2025-03-17 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Caroline Darian: First Us Interview Since Her Father Dominique Pelicot’s Shocking Trial · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And so, what's your message now to people who either have experienced something like this or the reason why you wanted to share your story and to put it into words that would last forever is because you want people to know what, Caroline?”
2025-03-17 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Caroline Darian: First Us Interview Since Her Father Dominique Pelicot’s Shocking Trial · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“How is the family relationship? Are you all, would you say, not as close as you used to be, this certainly from what you wrote in the book, didn't make you closer? So has it still created its distances amongst you and the family?”
2025-03-17 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Caroline Darian: First Us Interview Since Her Father Dominique Pelicot’s Shocking Trial · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“How is your mother how is she now? I know she moved out of the house. You all moved her out of that house shortly, you know, after all of this happened and she moved to another area and another neighborhood and is driving again because at one point she didn't even feel. Safe to drive because she didn't understand where the blackouts were coming from or when she would have a blackout. So I understand she's back to driving again. But how is she?”
2025-03-17 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Caroline Darian: First Us Interview Since Her Father Dominique Pelicot’s Shocking Trial · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You say that for years now you've been trying to find a new way to exist. And during the trial, you also asked, how are you supposed to rebuild yourself from the ruins when you know your father is the worst sexual predator of the past 20 years? How are you managing to rebuild your life? Your son was six at the time. Now he's ten. Your son was really close to his grandfather, you two, just like Jenny, had to tell your son about his grandfather being in jail and try to carry on with your life. How have you been able to rebuild?”
2025-03-17 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Caroline Darian: First Us Interview Since Her Father Dominique Pelicot’s Shocking Trial · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“In December 2024, a French court found Dominique Pellico guilty of repeatedly drugging and raping his wife and orchestrating her rape by dozens of other men. He was given the maximum sentence of twenty years in prison. All 50 of Dominique Pelico's co defendants were also found guilty of rape, attempted rape, or sexual assault, and received sentences ranging from three to fifteen years.”
2025-03-17 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Caroline Darian: First Us Interview Since Her Father Dominique Pelicot’s Shocking Trial · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Chemical submission. So I was so struck how you writed the book. I'll never call him dad again, how you write about the two women in the grocery store. I mean, if the two women at the grocery store had never pressed charges against him for filming up their dress, none of this would have been discovered. I mean, I worry and wonder what would have happened to your mom. She just continued to have been drugged and eventually, what would all of those drugs have done to her brain? What have those drugs have done to her?”
2025-03-17 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Caroline Darian: First Us Interview Since Her Father Dominique Pelicot’s Shocking Trial · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Campaign is stop chemical submission. Don't put me under. In 2023, Caroline launched the movement to stop chemical submission. Don't put me under. Help rape victims who had been drugged and to raise awareness of this issue among medical professionals and the general public. What is the mission? What is the goal”
2025-03-17 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Caroline Darian: First Us Interview Since Her Father Dominique Pelicot’s Shocking Trial · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, thank you for standing up for not just yourself and your daughter, but for all the daughters. Thank you. Thank you, Jenny. In your book, you include hypothetical letter to your father. Can you read us an excerpt from that?”
2025-03-17 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Caroline Darian: First Us Interview Since Her Father Dominique Pelicot’s Shocking Trial · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“What do you say to your children about this? Because in Caroline's case, she and her brothers were older. They're adults with their own families and children. But when you have teenage children and this is their father who has done this despicable, disgusting thing to you, and you are fighting in the courts, not only fighting in the courts, I want to say you got the marital rape laws changed in Minnesota. How do you explain this to your children”
2025-03-17 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Caroline Darian: First Us Interview Since Her Father Dominique Pelicot’s Shocking Trial · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Okay, so the wrong word is heal. I would agree with that. Have you been able to carry on in a way that your life feels like it's still hopeful and that you will be able to one day put this behind you? You're not defined by it is what I'm trying to say.”
2025-03-17 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Caroline Darian: First Us Interview Since Her Father Dominique Pelicot’s Shocking Trial · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“G. Thison was first told that her ex-husband, Matthew Heger, would be charged with a felony which could put him in prison for up to 15 years. However, the felony charge was dropped because of a little known marital rape loophole in Minnesota law. Despite being found guilty of a variety of crimes, Heger served less than 30 days in jail for the crimes he committed against Jenny and his former co-workers. Although it was too late for her case, Jenny fought for a bill in Minnesota to remove any protections for spouses who rape their partners. In 2019, Governor Tim Waltz signed the bill into law.”
2025-03-17 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Caroline Darian: First Us Interview Since Her Father Dominique Pelicot’s Shocking Trial · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You will see yourself many times over, and I'll never call him dad again because I have to say that when we saw this story, that became a global story, I think a lot of people were thinking, oh, well, that could never happen here in the United States. Not only did it happen, it's like right there in the heart of Minnesota. So thank you so much for sharing your story.”
2025-03-17 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Caroline Darian: First Us Interview Since Her Father Dominique Pelicot’s Shocking Trial · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah. And I wanted to say to everybody we were showing the video with your permission not to exploit the story, but just to see how it happens. I remember when I saw it for the first time, I'm sure you felt had similar feelings. It's just so vile and creepy and disgusting that someone you're sleeping next to every night whom you trust could do that to you.”
2025-03-17 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Caroline Darian: First Us Interview Since Her Father Dominique Pelicot’s Shocking Trial · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And this was used during your court case. We also asked Caroline ahead of this time if she's okay for us to show this. So we're going to roll this tape, okay? You tell us what we are seeing here”
2025-03-17 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Caroline Darian: First Us Interview Since Her Father Dominique Pelicot’s Shocking Trial · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I hear when you file for divorce, your lawyers told you to take a closer look at your home computer and what did you find there?”
2025-03-17 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Caroline Darian: First Us Interview Since Her Father Dominique Pelicot’s Shocking Trial · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Made global headlines because it was so extreme and her father was caught with over twenty thousand pieces of evidence authority told us that these types of drug induced intimate partner crimes are on the rise but are extremely difficult to detect and of course to prosecute. And so before this interview, I asked Caroline if she would be okay if we invited Jenny Thiessen to our conversation and she said yes. Jenny now joins us from Minnesota. Hi Jenny, I know you've been watching and listening and can relate to Caroline's story. You were married. I understand to your college sweetheart for 12 years and then you made a shocking discovery. What was it?”
2025-03-17 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Caroline Darian: First Us Interview Since Her Father Dominique Pelicot’s Shocking Trial · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Next is my conversation with Caroline Darian continues we speak with a mom in Minnesota whose case is eerily similar, she discovered videos on her husband's flash drive that would upend her marriage and her life. In her first American interview I'm speaking with Caroline Darian, a French woman coming to terms with the vile actions of her father which she details in her new book I'll never call him Dad Again. I think it's important for all of us to note that Caroline's family's case was”
2025-03-17 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Caroline Darian: First Us Interview Since Her Father Dominique Pelicot’s Shocking Trial · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Secrets. Have you, Caroline, come to terms with Not knowing what really happened to you, or do you think you know what happened to you? Has that been resolved for yourself?”
2025-03-17 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Caroline Darian: First Us Interview Since Her Father Dominique Pelicot’s Shocking Trial · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's not tangible. You couldn't possibly love somebody and do that to them. No, no. In court? Did he explain why he did it? Did he say it was a part of a fantasy? It was a part of a, he did it. What is his explanation for why he did that to your mother?”
2025-03-17 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Caroline Darian: First Us Interview Since Her Father Dominique Pelicot’s Shocking Trial · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Certainly no respect for women Just that woman I mean, you know what is so hard for? I mean, I'm sure it's troubling for you too, devastating, is how in one breath, Because it sounds like when he says, you know, Giselle is the love of my life that he actually means that when he's saying that to his brothers or whatever, that she's been the love of my life. There's one part of him that believes that. Do you believe that? You think that's a part of that Okay.”
2025-03-17 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Caroline Darian: First Us Interview Since Her Father Dominique Pelicot’s Shocking Trial · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But you know, when I read that he was using such crude language, I did say, why didn't you use words? Thought, wow, so does he hate women? Dizzy hate women in general, or did he just secretly hate his wife? What is your answer to that?”
2025-03-17 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Caroline Darian: First Us Interview Since Her Father Dominique Pelicot’s Shocking Trial · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“To the other men when he's talking on the internet about his wife, he calls her lots of really bad names. He uses the word slut a lot when referring to her. I read that someplace else. You did not put those words in the book. Why did you choose not to include the language that your father had used to describe your mother?”
2025-03-17 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Caroline Darian: First Us Interview Since Her Father Dominique Pelicot’s Shocking Trial · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“When you go over all of the evidence against your father with your family lawyer, you're struck by, I was struck by it too, you didn't use the language in the book, but I was just... I was struck by the crude language your father uses.”
2025-03-17 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Caroline Darian: First Us Interview Since Her Father Dominique Pelicot’s Shocking Trial · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And the men knew where to come, and he would tell the men, don't wear any cologne. Don't smoke your Wash your hands and warm your hands before you come in so that your cold hands don't disturb her in a way that she wakes up. And so she would come out of this stupor of being drugged. And not have a memory of anything that had ever happened.”
2025-03-17 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Caroline Darian: First Us Interview Since Her Father Dominique Pelicot’s Shocking Trial · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yes, yes, yes, yes And it's not just victims of sexual assault. I mean, it's everything. It's anybody who has been afraid of standing up. I just don't know anything that is more courageous than that because you've got the whole world looking at you and saying, why didn't you know? I mean, even the family, you tell the story, and I'll never call him dad again, you tell the story of her being at the dinner table and your brother witnessing her falling out of the chair. And your father saying, What about that?”
2025-03-17 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Caroline Darian: First Us Interview Since Her Father Dominique Pelicot’s Shocking Trial · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Can you all imagine that? I mean, we were just hearing about it. I was reading about it in the New York Times, but I didn't realize that they were showing the tapes in the courtroom every day and that she had to sit there and witness that every day.”
2025-03-17 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Caroline Darian: First Us Interview Since Her Father Dominique Pelicot’s Shocking Trial · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“She divorced him and Still wanted to carry the name because she has grandchildren who will carry that name. And she said that she wanted that name not to be a name of shame, but a name of honor. And that's why she was standing up for herself so that the grandchildren could carry that name and that would be a name of honor. I just think that is magnificent that she was able to do that.”
2025-03-17 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Caroline Darian: First Us Interview Since Her Father Dominique Pelicot’s Shocking Trial · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That's why she deserves all of our praise because she said she also, when was asked, why wouldn't you change your last name after divorcing him? Because she divorced him last year, wasn't it? Last year.”
2025-03-17 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Caroline Darian: First Us Interview Since Her Father Dominique Pelicot’s Shocking Trial · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“With the help of phone records and more than 20,000 videos and images taken from Dominique Pelico's computer files, the police were able to track down 50 of the more than 70 men suspected of raping Giselle. Last year, one of the most shocking rape trials in modern history, 51 men, took place in Amignon, France. Giselle Pelico took the stand to explain that she waved her right of anonymity and made her name and the horrific images public to stand up for other women who suspect they've been drugged and raped. She said she wants society to change the way it deals with rape and to shift the shame from the victim to the perpetrator. For this extraordinary act of bravery, Giselle became a hero in France and around the world.”
2025-03-17 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Caroline Darian: First Us Interview Since Her Father Dominique Pelicot’s Shocking Trial · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“This is the thing. She made a decision early on in the trial, and you all can read about the trial, she made a decision that she was going to, first of all, take this to trial and let it be an open trial, not through closed doors, because she wanted to shift the shame. That's why she deserves a statue in her honor, that she wanted to shift the shame and not have the shame be on the victim, even though this horrible, shameful thing had happened to her. She's saying, I'm not going to bear the shame. The shame should be on this journalist, this firefighter, all these men who are known as every man in the community, they should be carrying the shame. I won't carry the shame. And I love that she took that upon herself.”
2025-03-17 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Caroline Darian: First Us Interview Since Her Father Dominique Pelicot’s Shocking Trial · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Which is what most people are looking for is to know that they are loved. And I know at one point your mother tells you that your father is in a bad way and the book you write, I'll never call him Dad again, your mom says to you that Dominique is in a bad way and she somehow feels that she has failed him in some way. And on another occasion, she actually packed him warm clothes and personal items. What did you think of that? Did that feel like betrayal to you that your mom is now betraying you”
2025-03-17 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Caroline Darian: First Us Interview Since Her Father Dominique Pelicot’s Shocking Trial · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And all that time, did you feel so he really wasn't my dad? He was just playing a role as a dad. Is that what you ended up feeling?”
2025-03-17 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Caroline Darian: First Us Interview Since Her Father Dominique Pelicot’s Shocking Trial · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“In 2019, when Giselle told Caroline that she'd been bleeding heavily from her vagina, Caroline brought her mother to a gynecologist. The doctor detected an inflammation of her uterine passage and prescribed some antifungal ointment, and left it at that. So, at one point from prison, I think your father wrote a letter to his brother. He wrote a letter, your father writes a letter to his brother saying that life is too hard and Caroline's anger is making it worse. He then writes to his brother, try to come her, meaning you down. What was your reaction when you read that letter?”
2025-03-17 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Caroline Darian: First Us Interview Since Her Father Dominique Pelicot’s Shocking Trial · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, wouldn't your mom have Vaginal infections or urinary tract infections weren't there always something going on with her?”
2025-03-17 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Caroline Darian: First Us Interview Since Her Father Dominique Pelicot’s Shocking Trial · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“To a nice little French neighborhood suburban home, the men would park down the street. Can we talk for a minute about the 50 men? They know that there were at least 70, but they were able to identify 50 of the men from the tapes because Caroline's father Had one condition for the men. He didn't charge the men to come in and rape his wife. He only insisted that he'd be able to film it and therefore all of those men who raped Giselle Pelicol over a period of more than a decade, all of those men are on tape. And they ranged in ages from 26 years old to 74 years old. And they come from all backgrounds. One was a sales manager. I heard one was a journalist. There was a firefighter. They're all fathers and grandfathers. And one of the perpetrators I heard was also one of your mom's neighbor, right?”
2025-03-17 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Caroline Darian: First Us Interview Since Her Father Dominique Pelicot’s Shocking Trial · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“They couldn't believe themselves. That's the impression I got from the book. Correct me if I'm wrong, that this man, Dominique. Men you'll never call dad again had done this to his wife.”
2025-03-17 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Caroline Darian: First Us Interview Since Her Father Dominique Pelicot’s Shocking Trial · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Chemical submission occurs when a perpetrator uses drugs to make someone unconscious or incapacitated in order to commit a crime against them. Although chemical submission is not new, Giselle Pellico's case drew renewed attention to the method being used specifically to perpetrate sexual assaults. This type of crime has been on the rise for 20 years in France. In the United States, this crime is referred to as drug-facilitated sexual assault. It is also on the rise here in America, but difficult to prosecute due to lack of evidence. You talk in the book how you and your mother were not supported as rape victims should be. You're told this information and then just left on your own. I got the impression from your story, though, that at times the police were sympathetic because they couldn't even believe what they were pulling.”
2025-03-17 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Caroline Darian: First Us Interview Since Her Father Dominique Pelicot’s Shocking Trial · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yourself, and now you've got to process what happened to me. And it was too much to bear. And you ended up just having a breakdown. What does a breakdown feel like? Can you share with us? What does that, what is happening when you break down?”
2025-03-17 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Caroline Darian: First Us Interview Since Her Father Dominique Pelicot’s Shocking Trial · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I want to remind you that this conversation contains discussions about sexual assault. It may be triggering for those watching or listening. This interview is not appropriate for children. I'm speaking to Caroline Darian, author of the new book I'll never call him Dad Again, in which she shares her family's unfathomable ordeal. Her own father spent nearly a decade drugging his wife, Caroline's mother, then inviting men to come into their home to rape her unconscious body on camera. So after seeing the photos of yourself, it became too much to bear and there's no one listening to us or watching us right now. It doesn't understand that your brain just can't even, you're first trying to process, my mother has been raped by 70 different men. That's on November 2nd. And then on November 3rd, you're brought back to the police station. You see pictures of...”
2025-03-17 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Caroline Darian: First Us Interview Since Her Father Dominique Pelicot’s Shocking Trial · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And it's interesting you do write to and say it so beautifully. I forgot the phrase about how you are the daughter of both the victim. And the perpetrator. Yeah. Yeah. Next, Caroline Darian tells me how her father managed to keep his dark secret hidden from his family, the police, and everyone else for nearly a decade. She also describes what it was like for her own mother to face fifty one of her rapists during the grueling trial. Stay with us. Welcome back to the Oprah.”
2025-03-17 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Caroline Darian: First Us Interview Since Her Father Dominique Pelicot’s Shocking Trial · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, what did this What did this do, Caroline, to the relationship between you and your mother? Because at one point you write in the book, one brother was siding with the mother and the other brother was siding with you. What did this do to the whole family? One wanted to believe that this had actually happened to you, even though you have the pictures.”
2025-03-17 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Caroline Darian: First Us Interview Since Her Father Dominique Pelicot’s Shocking Trial · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Reading the book, I know things might have changed since you wrote the book. From reading the book, it appeared to me that your mom still did not believe that your father sexually assaulted you, that she could wrap her head around the fact that she had been raped by all of those men and that he had called them in for years and she was drugged, but there was something about Her not being able to accept that it actually happened to you. And at one point, that became a great tension between you because she said, you know, why do you keep talking about this or fixating on this? I mean, he wasn't mean his whole life or he was good for part of your life is what she said.”
2025-03-17 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Caroline Darian: First Us Interview Since Her Father Dominique Pelicot’s Shocking Trial · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Found those photographs that had been deleted. It's a lot. So he tried to actually get rid of those photographs. A week after our interview, Caroline filed a legal complaint against her father accusing him of drugging and sexually abusing her over a 10-year period when she was in her 30s. Caroline says she filed with the prosecutor as a message to all victims that you must never give up. Later, they found pictures of your sister in law. Is it your sister in law? Had two sister in laws.”
2025-03-17 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Caroline Darian: First Us Interview Since Her Father Dominique Pelicot’s Shocking Trial · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The pictures were in a file and the file was labeled something, what was the file labeled? The pictures were in a file label.”
2025-03-17 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Caroline Darian: First Us Interview Since Her Father Dominique Pelicot’s Shocking Trial · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“What does he say? Because my thing is if you see the pictures of your mother knocked out and obviously she was raped because he filmed everything. He obviously didn't film himself or anybody with you, but there are the pictures. Why does he say he took the pictures?”
2025-03-17 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Caroline Darian: First Us Interview Since Her Father Dominique Pelicot’s Shocking Trial · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Also Also, That leaves me speechless because to recognize, first of all, the day before that your father has been calling in strangers to rape your mother and drugging her for over a decade. And then the next day to be called in and to see pictures of yourself drugged, immediately your thought goes to, did he also rape me?”
2025-03-17 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Caroline Darian: First Us Interview Since Her Father Dominique Pelicot’s Shocking Trial · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“When you're looking at, but okay, so you're brought back to the police station and the police show you pictures that they've taken from your father's computer of you in a pair of panties that you don't even recognize.”
2025-03-17 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Caroline Darian: First Us Interview Since Her Father Dominique Pelicot’s Shocking Trial · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Those of you who are listening to us are watching, you know, hopefully you won't have to go through something as horrible as that. But you know when you go through something that is shocking, when you have been betrayed It feels like it strips you of everything you thought you knew. It strips you of your own identity because here I was a person who believed all this time that you were a certain way. So what does that say about me that I couldn't see that? You know, it just causes people to question themselves. Did that happen with you?”
2025-03-17 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Caroline Darian: First Us Interview Since Her Father Dominique Pelicot’s Shocking Trial · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT