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Caroline Paul

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“Well, I would say that it's time to adopt a paradigm of bravery instead of a paradigm of fear. I think that's what, I mean, weren't you acculturated much more to bravery? Like, fear wasn't really part of the conversation. It's the flip side, which is bravery. So when you have a... boy and a girl or a man and woman facing the exact same situation, they will take two there'll be two emotional reactions to it that are sort of opposite but it's the same situation. The man will be trying to access his bravery and the woman will be accessing her fear.”
2016-04-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #151: How to Overcome Fear - Lessons from Firefighter and Luger, Caroline Paul · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We're anxious on her behalf, always telling her to be careful no, watch out. And when I did some research, it turns out that yes, parents, both moms and dads, caution their daughters way more than their sons. And when I say Discourage them from trying something, whereas with boys, there is an active encouragement despite the possibilities that you'll get hurt and guiding the son to do it often on his own. Then when a daughter decides to do something that might have some risk involved, the parents, after cautioning her, will then much more likely to assist her doing it. So what is this telling girls except for that they're fragile and that they need our help? And that is acculturated so early. So of course by the time we're women and we're in the workplace or in relationships or That is going to be a predominant paradigm for us, fear”
2016-04-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #151: How to Overcome Fear - Lessons from Firefighter and Luger, Caroline Paul · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, I wrote the gutsy girl. As sort of an antidote for what I see is happening and it maybe has happened for a long time, but certainly still keeps happening today in that we acculturate our girls to be fearful, and I see it in my peers now. So I was really curious about that and where that started. After I wrote the book, so I went and looked at some studies. It had been bothering me for a long time, and it actually one of the incidents that really probably was part of that catalyzed this whole thing was years ago a friend of mine lamented to me that her daughter was a scaredy cat and I was a firefighter and she looked up to me could I hang out with her? And yes, she was sort of a scaredy cat, but what I really noticed was that her parents were”
2016-04-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #151: How to Overcome Fear - Lessons from Firefighter and Luger, Caroline Paul · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, then she'd like cut them off So she was sort of testing the world as well as testing herself. And again, it's just a readjustment for people. And it was, I understood. Now it's no big deal. But back then it was pretty huge. And also I think it really shaped me to carry that, to be, I'm actually grateful for it because I always knew I was different. And I think that gave me an empathy that I probably wouldn't have had if I had just been easily part of the norm.”
2016-04-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #151: How to Overcome Fear - Lessons from Firefighter and Luger, Caroline Paul · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And she became immediately defensive for me, so she would she said that the way she worked it out, she would tell everybody immediately, almost in the first sentence that she had a gay daughter. And then she'd wait. It was almost a litmus test. And if they had any sort of flicker of...”
2016-04-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #151: How to Overcome Fear - Lessons from Firefighter and Luger, Caroline Paul · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Up until his death, you know, definitely like a true blue Republican. That he I didn't tell for a long time until my sister said, Why are you keeping secrets? Secrets are a buffer to intimacy. And I said, no, he doesn't need to know. She said, it's a part of your life that he's not hearing about and you're keeping from him, and even though he might not realize it, that is keeping a distance. So you need to tell him. And in fact, she was so right. And so I told him and I was petrified, and he sort of was really sweet about it. He was shocked, and then he sort of struggled and he said, well, I know some gay people. And then he started listing like the gay people he knew. It was really cute.”
2016-04-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #151: How to Overcome Fear - Lessons from Firefighter and Luger, Caroline Paul · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And, you know, neither of us are my sister's an amazingly beautiful, very well-known actress who was in Baywatch. So you would think her femininity would not be questioned, but she's definitely not like a girly girl. Neither of us are. Both of us kind of walk like a truck driver, you know? So she had to question her own identity, I think. Not just, it just brings up a lot of things. So that I think it was more difficult for her than my brother. And now she's just psyched, basically. I know that sounds weird, but she's kind of so glad there's just that you're not straight because it's so much more interesting. And maybe that's fetishizing it too, but at any rate, she's just awesome. And my dad, though, super conservative. voted for Nixon, still believed that Nixon was a great president.”
2016-04-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #151: How to Overcome Fear - Lessons from Firefighter and Luger, Caroline Paul · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Dude responses. He was so casualist about it. My sister, it took my sister a while because being an identical twin, it made her think all about her own identities.”
2016-04-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #151: How to Overcome Fear - Lessons from Firefighter and Luger, Caroline Paul · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I'm just so curious because I remember my dad talking to my dad, I know my sister told me to do this was actually really great because I was a big secret keeper and I think you just learn that if you're not sort of part of the mainstream, you learn to keep those secrets because it's just easier, you think. And my sister said, My dad was the last of my family. My brother's like, oh, that's cool. I love women too”
2016-04-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #151: How to Overcome Fear - Lessons from Firefighter and Luger, Caroline Paul · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“She knows she guessed no around twenty. Yeah, because basically she was calling my dorm room at Stanford and this woman was answering and it was like, what? It's seven in the morning.”
2016-04-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #151: How to Overcome Fear - Lessons from Firefighter and Luger, Caroline Paul · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I guess, but I was feeling like I was born this way. So I think it happened in the womb. Like my sister got that hormone and I got this.”
2016-04-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #151: How to Overcome Fear - Lessons from Firefighter and Luger, Caroline Paul · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, my twin sister guest. I mean, I have an identical twin. I can't keep anything from her, who's, by the way, like so straight. So it's kind of interesting. I mean, I guess we're a bit of a science lab experiment, though they've done studies, and in fact, there's No correlation or little correlation between the Sexuality and genes. And yet it feels very biological.”
2016-04-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #151: How to Overcome Fear - Lessons from Firefighter and Luger, Caroline Paul · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I mean, this was a totally different time. So I'm 52 now, so that was, I can't do the math, was it 80s, right? So it was the 80s. Yeah, I mean, it was just different. It was a bizarre thing to be. I didn't know anybody growing up who was gay, nobody.”
2016-04-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #151: How to Overcome Fear - Lessons from Firefighter and Luger, Caroline Paul · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I actually want someone to partition each emotion as if it's a little separate block and then put it in a line. Because once you not only look at your emotions, but also assess your own skill and the situation, often things change. I mean, we're scared supposedly. I hear people say, I'm so scared of fill in the blank, picking up an insect. Really what is really so scary about an insect? Seriously. Is it going to eat you? No. So as long as you stop and really look, I think people's lives will change. Kind of radically, especially for women, because women are very, very quick to say they're scared. And that's something I really want to change.”
2016-04-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #151: How to Overcome Fear - Lessons from Firefighter and Luger, Caroline Paul · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“What I do in those situations is I look and look at all the emotions I'm feeling, which is anticipation, exhilaration, focus, confidence, fun, and fear. And then I take fear and say, well, how much priority am I going to give this? I really want to do this. And then I put it where it belongs. And it's kind of like brickling. I don't know, you just look at all the bricks or making a stone wall, you fit the pieces together.”
2016-04-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #151: How to Overcome Fear - Lessons from Firefighter and Luger, Caroline Paul · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Many things that are going on. So for instance, when we climb the bridge, which was five of us deciding we wanted to walk up that cable in the middle of the night, please don't do that. But we did. And it was a really, I mean, talk about fear. I mean, you're working on a cable. You have to put one foot in front of the other and you get higher and higher until you're basically as high as a 70-story building and with nothing below you and holding on to these two thin wires on either side. It's just a walk, technically. Really nothing's going to happen unless some earthquake or sudden catastrophic gust of wind, which was really not going to happen, you're going to be fine as long as you keep your mental state intact. Don't panic. It's just a walk.”
2016-04-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #151: How to Overcome Fear - Lessons from Firefighter and Luger, Caroline Paul · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“What I I'm not against fear. Let me just say right up front. I think fear is definitely important. It's there to keep us safe. But I do feel like some people give it too much priority. It's one of the many. Things that we use to assess a situation. So I'm not against fear, but I am pro bravery. So that's my paradigm. So once I know that, fear is just one of”
2016-04-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #151: How to Overcome Fear - Lessons from Firefighter and Luger, Caroline Paul · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That's the worst. And so of course I was right on his heels, but I that feeling of overwhelming fear was really sobering for me. But what I learned, of course, is that you can be scared. That's okay, but you still have to take action if it's necessary. And my friend was fine. He had actually been blown out too, but he took shelter on the other side. We were found ourselves in the garage, so it all ended up fine, but it was a moment I'll never forget.”
2016-04-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #151: How to Overcome Fear - Lessons from Firefighter and Luger, Caroline Paul · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Basically, yeah. I've been in those too, and those are not will knock your mask off and throw you backwards. And I remember being sort of discombobulated and in the garage. And my friend Frank goes Where's Victor? Victor was my crewmate and I look around and there was just three of us instead of four. And I remember thinking I have to go back into that hallway. And the fear was paralyzing. This all took milliseconds. And I see Frank, who's super brave, really great firefighter just turn and start to just catapult himself towards that door to find Victor. And for me, it was only a millisecond, but I was scared, and I recognized that fear, and that fear scared me more than the fear itself. Because when you're paralyzed as a firefighter and your friend is missing”
2016-04-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #151: How to Overcome Fear - Lessons from Firefighter and Luger, Caroline Paul · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Flashover is when the room gets so hot that even the particles in the air simultaneously ignite. So it's basically this just huge.”
2016-04-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #151: How to Overcome Fear - Lessons from Firefighter and Luger, Caroline Paul · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And kind of quiet in this weird way, and then all of a sudden a huge explosion which pushed us all out of the hallway. And what we realized later was that there had been a flashover not in the hallway, which would have killed us, but somewhere close enough by to just blow us.”
2016-04-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #151: How to Overcome Fear - Lessons from Firefighter and Luger, Caroline Paul · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, I think the time that I was probably the most physically scared, and it was a bit of an unusual feeling for me, and I'm not trying to say that I'm super brave. I just had this ability to really take fear and put it way, way back in line of all my other emotions when I was a firefighter. But I was in a, I talk about this in the book actually. I was in a fire building and I was with my crew and I was in teams of two. The team was ahead of me, Frank and Andy, and then I had my crewmate was behind me, Victor. He and I were together. But we were all crawling down the same hallway and we had a hose line, which was unusual, but they couldn't find the fire. So the chief goes, hey, guys, you guys grab a hose line. So we're psyched to do that. It's awesome to go find the seed of the fire, and it's super smoky hot.”
2016-04-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #151: How to Overcome Fear - Lessons from Firefighter and Luger, Caroline Paul · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Exactly, yeah. So that walking that line is really difficult. And I'm not sure I did a great job of it. And I know I'm used to come home and I often used to sort of cry in my car. And then I'd get out and go home. And It's hard to talk to someone who's not a firefighter about what you're seeing. And I think later in life, I think it gave me a depth. But there's also a wall, I think, as well. So I keep trying to climb that wall, or maybe put that wall up, depending.”
2016-04-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #151: How to Overcome Fear - Lessons from Firefighter and Luger, Caroline Paul · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think the best firefighters and also, I mean, this extends to maybe emergency room doctors and soldiers, police officers, anyone who works in a profession where it's highly traumatic emotionally, you have to learn to walk this line between efficiency And being able to do the job practically, like administer that CPR. and maintain your emotions about it because it's very easy just to block it out. And I think that's why a lot of, there was a lot of drinking in the fire department. It was part of the culture all up until the 90s. And because that's the way one handles emotions.”
2016-04-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #151: How to Overcome Fear - Lessons from Firefighter and Luger, Caroline Paul · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And then it was really interesting two weeks later I got a call, happened to be working for a woman who was I don't know what the call came in as, but we got to this church and this woman was completely catatonic would not respond to anything. Just lay on the ground and stared straight up, and it turned out it was the baby's mother, and I recognized her.”
2016-04-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #151: How to Overcome Fear - Lessons from Firefighter and Luger, Caroline Paul · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And it was really sad. They were running their baby to the hospital along the street. So we had to try to find them because we went to the address and they said they've already gone. They're running their baby to the hospital. So we had to find them, do CPR in the street, take the baby into the ambulance, and go with them.”
2016-04-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #151: How to Overcome Fear - Lessons from Firefighter and Luger, Caroline Paul · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I mean, I had, I remember Doing CPR in a baby, which was very, I'm not a parent myself, but I was surprised how absolutely overwhelming that is. Know we knew the baby had died, but we're transporting the parents too. And to be in that hospital where the mother and the father are waiting in the waiting room, I just wept after.”
2016-04-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #151: How to Overcome Fear - Lessons from Firefighter and Luger, Caroline Paul · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Like compassion and patience. So I learned a lot in that. I know that sounds like, oh, the women should be really good at that.”
2016-04-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #151: How to Overcome Fear - Lessons from Firefighter and Luger, Caroline Paul · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I love the excitement of a fire. It's hot and smoking pitch dark, and you're either, if you're on the hose, you're trying to find the seed of the fire, and it's your heart's going, and you have this goal, everything else just falls away. So I really, a big fire, really, as we call it, a good fire was. I loved what I learned more about myself in was the medical calls. The fire department does a lot of medical calls, especially these days as fire goes down with better building inspections and people smoke less, they drink less. Real estate in San Francisco is so expensive. People aren't burning stuff down like they were when I was a firefighter We do way, way more medical calls. And medical calls, I think, are really where I myself called upon the Really, my human attributes.”
2016-04-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #151: How to Overcome Fear - Lessons from Firefighter and Luger, Caroline Paul · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I was really comfortable fighting fires for me that really I loved fighting fires and I not in a weird way of being a fire buggy.”
2016-04-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #151: How to Overcome Fear - Lessons from Firefighter and Luger, Caroline Paul · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But in general, I think crews learn to work together. And the truth is in a fire it's pitch dark. And so you often don't know who is to your left or your right from another crew. So it's squabbles aren't going to, they're not relevant in a fire.”
2016-04-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #151: How to Overcome Fear - Lessons from Firefighter and Luger, Caroline Paul · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You don't get to pick your crew, but Everybody puts stuff aside when you're in a fire. And if you're not getting along with your crew, which I had a great crew for many, many years, I had a great station. I was at station seven here in the mission? Biggest station in the city. And it's like a village, the fire department, so there's always people that are, you know, the drunks, the mean person, the gossip. You have all that. It's a small town.”
2016-04-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #151: How to Overcome Fear - Lessons from Firefighter and Luger, Caroline Paul · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, I can't. I mean, I had a lot of pride when I was a firefighter. I think as I get older, I'm able to sort of put that in its place, but especially as being one of the few women in the fire department. When I got in that I was the 15th woman, and there were 1,500 men. And so if I made a mistake, it wouldn't be, oh, Caroline made a mistake. It would be all women just made a mistake. And so for me, pride worked a little because my fear of failure was way more than my fear of fire. I didn't often feel fear of fire to be totally frank. I'm not trying to pretend I'm so brave. It's just that I had a bigger fear, which was humiliation, failure, letting down, you know, women. So pride can be a really great motivator, I think, too. Definitely.”
2016-04-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #151: How to Overcome Fear - Lessons from Firefighter and Luger, Caroline Paul · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, knowing that there's, you know, you got to work within your sort of human limitations. And I think those of us who have to, like women and the smaller guys, we know right away where our limitations are. So we're going to just compensate with other things. Well”
2016-04-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #151: How to Overcome Fear - Lessons from Firefighter and Luger, Caroline Paul · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And you usually never give up your equipment because if you give up your equipment, you're useless. And I would never give up my equipment. But he was up there and I also had an axe. So I said, take my pry bar, take my pry bar. And he's like, no. And he kept wailing at that door. And I'm telling you, it took so long for that door to come open because he thought, as a big guy he could get that door open. Whereas for me, I knew I had a pry bar. I would have just stuck it in there. Someone would give it one hit on the head and that door would have popped open.”
2016-04-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #151: How to Overcome Fear - Lessons from Firefighter and Luger, Caroline Paul · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And they had a lot of street smarts. And what I at first has confused me because supposedly firefighting, you have to be this huge brute because such a physical job. And it is a physical job. But it's a combination of physicalness and smarts. And when that at that intersection, you get a really amazing firefighter. So you need to understand your physical limitations because everybody has them, even the strongest guy. And you understand your physical limitations, which often the smaller guys did, and they use their smarts and their grace. There was an elegance to the way they figured things out. And I remember very clearly being on a stairwell once, super smoky, and I was like third down on the stairwell lying there waiting for the guy up top to make entry. And he was wailing on the door with an axe. He was a big guy. And the door just went.”
2016-04-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #151: How to Overcome Fear - Lessons from Firefighter and Luger, Caroline Paul · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That's a great question. It's funny, I noticed that in the fire department. The guys that I really respected as firefighters were often Not the strongest ones They were, of course, fit, but they were often smaller.”
2016-04-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #151: How to Overcome Fear - Lessons from Firefighter and Luger, Caroline Paul · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“My first day was really scary, frankly. You know, I walked in and I remember one of the first things I did was I put on the medical gloves to check the equipment that I was supposed to do. I was called a probiotioner. And then I went to the bathroom and didn't take my gloves off and forgot that there's like powder all over. So I walk out and there's powder all over my crotch I was so mortified. It was, they were so nice to me. I mean, they were not, they were gave me a hard time, but in a really nice way. Those guys were you know the basic guy came in that Stanford grad, that vegetarian, my twin sister at the time was on Baywatch, which was the most watched show in the world. So if I wanted to be a little bit under the radar, it just wasn't going to happen.”
2016-04-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #151: How to Overcome Fear - Lessons from Firefighter and Luger, Caroline Paul · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And so I thought okay, I mean, this is an institution that has issues with racism and sexism for sure, but there are some amazing people in this institution, and it's really an amazing job. And so I called and said, I'd like to take that position. And they said, okay, and then I had to wait a while. And then in December of 89, I got in.”
2016-04-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #151: How to Overcome Fear - Lessons from Firefighter and Luger, Caroline Paul · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I didn't know I was so confused. But I was also in my, I was 25 at the time. I didn't know what I wanted to do with my life. I was really adrift. So instead of making a decision, I said maybe. I said deferred, which really kind of meant no. And then I went on this expedition with a friend of mine to Bolivia, where we just rode mountain bikes through the Andes there, as just he and I mountain biking, and I thought a lot about leading a life where I could do this sort of thing. And when I came back, so that was 889. I guess I took the test in 88, went to Bolivia, came back, was working odd jobs, and then the earthquake hit. When the 89 earthquake hit, I read a lot about what the firefighters were doing, and there was some amazing. about the bravery of these men.”
2016-04-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #151: How to Overcome Fear - Lessons from Firefighter and Luger, Caroline Paul · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I mean this was a completely different strata of life. And for me, by the time that I had gone through the test, I was completely enamored with the job and really realized that it was full of incredibly smart people. Well, maybe I didn't quite realize this yet, but I was on the verge of realizing that smart and brave people leading really an extraordinary life. But I said no. I said, I didn't actually say no. I deferred. I was so.”
2016-04-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #151: How to Overcome Fear - Lessons from Firefighter and Luger, Caroline Paul · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, then I was like, wow, I did not expect this. My father will be so bummed. And my whole circle of friends will be shocked.”
2016-04-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #151: How to Overcome Fear - Lessons from Firefighter and Luger, Caroline Paul · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Francisco, we have two specialized units called the rescue squads, rescue one and rescue two, and I was a member of Rescue two for probably most of my career ten years, was in for fourteen. And our responsibility was just to search and rescue. Every so often they'd say, hey, squad, grab a hose, and we'd do that, but mostly that was our job. Get in there. So we carried an axe and an entry tool.”
2016-04-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #151: How to Overcome Fear - Lessons from Firefighter and Luger, Caroline Paul · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, Fire Engine, Fire Truck, they're actually different things. So, the fire truck is responsible mostly for ventilation in a fire and rescue. So they'll throw the ladders, go up to the roof, start destroying the building. The fire's destroying the building, and also the truck people are destroying it by putting holes in the roof to ventilate so that when the engine crew gets there, they have the water. They're going in that the conditions aren't as terrible. They're trying to ventilate that smoke and that heat the truck so letting the hot air and smoke rise and leave. So it's a sort of semi-coordinated effort. I mean, ideally it's very coordinated, but it's just a chaotic situation, obviously. So the engine crew will crawl in with a hose, and the truck helps them make entry if necessary. And the truck is also responsible for search and rescue.”
2016-04-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #151: How to Overcome Fear - Lessons from Firefighter and Luger, Caroline Paul · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Is funny because when I grew up, it seemed like the boys just automatically knew the difference between an engine and a truck. And so an engine carries the water. and a truck carries the ladders. Do you mind if I give you this primer?”
2016-04-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #151: How to Overcome Fear - Lessons from Firefighter and Luger, Caroline Paul · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, our packs, our air packs. Mine was heavier because we had to be in there for longer. The rescue squads were in there. you know, for longer without hose to protect us. So our packs were heavier than most people. I weighed them. I think they were 30 pounds. So just the air pack was 30 pounds and then you're wearing.”
2016-04-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #151: How to Overcome Fear - Lessons from Firefighter and Luger, Caroline Paul · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Right. So I think they were still struggling. And, you know, the test at the time was definitely if you were not fit, you couldn't pass it. But I think that it should have been more stringent. I'm a big believer that, I mean, being a firefighter is a really, really tough job. And physically it's tough. You're wearing 100 pounds of equipment on you. You need to be fit. Yes, you need to be strong. You need to be fit.”
2016-04-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #151: How to Overcome Fear - Lessons from Firefighter and Luger, Caroline Paul · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I can't quite remember now. It's been a long, long time, but it was they were at the time struggling to make it relevant. It's when tests were really coming under scrutiny. So it's not you didn't just do a bunch of pushups because push-ups aren't relevant. Right.”
2016-04-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #151: How to Overcome Fear - Lessons from Firefighter and Luger, Caroline Paul · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The written portion, which was the big gatekeeper. I came in really high. And I think, you know, obviously I knew how to take tests is really what it was about. And then the physical portion was easy for me because I had been a rower at Stanford and it was very, always been very physically fit. And all of a sudden they said you're in.”
2016-04-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #151: How to Overcome Fear - Lessons from Firefighter and Luger, Caroline Paul · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It just wasn't in my purview, it was funny. You think the whole world's open to you, but in every situation, really, I think we're sort of a culturated to certain things, never occurred to me. But I did go through this test process. And of course, you know, racism and sexism doesn't show up in the obvious ways we expect it to or think it does. It's so pervasive, I think, because it's more insidious than that. You can't just encapsulize it in like a two-day test taking situation. So I had no story, but I went through the process and every segment I passed, which surprised me because I'm not that great a test taker. I'm not that interested in academics really. I mean, I know I'm.”
2016-04-05 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #151: How to Overcome Fear - Lessons from Firefighter and Luger, Caroline Paul · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT