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Cat Wu

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“Is still to make the end decision okay what should belong in the final product so for this what I ended up deciding was that I wanted the talk to talk to cover the progression from making local tasks successful to making every PR green to like helping engineers land more PRs and for each of these which demo would be the most compelling and then after this decision about the outline, co-work just like went off for a few hours and built the whole slide deck.”
2026-04-23 · Lenny's Podcast · How Anthropic’s product team moves faster than anyone else | Cat Wu (Head of Product, Claude Code) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So I just wrote Make Me a slide deck for the code with Claude Conference. This is what our PMM suggested it should cover. This is the current draft that I made that I don't like. This is one that I made manually that I don't like, but I linked it. Can you start by creating a proposed outline with details? Also, make sure it doesn't overlap too much with a keynote talk, which is more important. And then called read a bunch of the links that I sent to it and created a proposed outline. So then I read through its proposal and all the different ideas that it had generated for what we could cover. And I just made a decision on what I wanted to actually be in the final deck. And I think this is like an example of what the role of the PM still is today. It's like Claude is a great brainstorming partner. It's able to synthesize in a massive amount of information really quickly and present all of the possibilities to you. But the role of the PM.”
2026-04-23 · Lenny's Podcast · How Anthropic’s product team moves faster than anyone else | Cat Wu (Head of Product, Claude Code) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Slack, Google Calendar, Gmail, GDrive, you should connect your communications tools and where you store your source of truth data for what your team cares about, what you care about and what you're working on.”
2026-04-23 · Lenny's Podcast · How Anthropic’s product team moves faster than anyone else | Cat Wu (Head of Product, Claude Code) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And I read through it, and it was like pretty good. There were a few tweaks, so I did have to give it a round of feedback. I like my slides to have extremely minimal words. And it was a little too wordy. But, you know, it was far faster than like what I would be able to produce. And because cowork has access to our whole design system, it actually looks like an anthropic designer put it together. When you visually see it, you're like, oh, this is like incredibly polished. So these are the kinds of things that are so much faster. Like this, making this slide deck would have taken me hours. But instead it like turns out a draft that is actually quite good. So I could focus on making sure that the demos are amazing that we plug into it.”
2026-04-23 · Lenny's Podcast · How Anthropic’s product team moves faster than anyone else | Cat Wu (Head of Product, Claude Code) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And one of the things that I wanted to do in this talk was to showcase all the products that we've been shipping that enable this transition and also to figure out, okay, what are the success stories that people have had internally that we can use as demos? And so I have my Google Drive connected. I have Slack connected. Alex, who's our product marketer, put together a draft of what the points that he thinks we should cover are. And so I just fed this all into cowork. I told cowork the narrative that I want to tell. And it actually just worked for an hour. It walked through Twitter to see what we launched. It looked through our evergreen launch room. It looked in our quad code announce channel, which is where our team posts demos of what they've been getting the most value out of Cloud Code. And it synthesized all this together to this 20-page deck that I woke up to this morning.”
2026-04-23 · Lenny's Podcast · How Anthropic’s product team moves faster than anyone else | Cat Wu (Head of Product, Claude Code) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You're getting started on cowork, the first thing that you really need to do is connect all the data sources that are relevant to your role. Because cowork can only do a great job if it has access to all the context that it needs to be able to curate the output for you. So what that means for me is I connected to my Google Calendar, I connected to my Slack, to my Gmail, to my Google Drive, so that it just knows it has the flexibility to find relevant context to ask questions, to pull in threads. And this substantially improves the quality of the result. The kinds of things I use it for are like last night I was working where we have this code with cloud conference coming up and there's a few talks that I'm giving there and one of the talks that we're doing talks about the transition of cloud code from an assistant to like a full-on agent.”
2026-04-23 · Lenny's Podcast · How Anthropic’s product team moves faster than anyone else | Cat Wu (Head of Product, Claude Code) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And then I think for co work, the role that this fills is there's a lot of work that everyone does where the output isn't code. So whether that's like getting to Slack zero or inbox zero or whether that's creating a slide deck for some customer meeting that's coming up or whether that's writing a quick doc on what the goals of a feature are or what the launch plan for a feature is. All these tasks produce outputs that are non-code and co-work is best positioned for that. So the way that I split the products in my mind is if I'm building something where the output is code, I'll use Cloud Code or desktop or COD code on mobile. And if the output is anything that's not code, I'll use coworker.”
2026-04-23 · Lenny's Podcast · How Anthropic’s product team moves faster than anyone else | Cat Wu (Head of Product, Claude Code) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I can't count the number of people who I've seen holding their laptop open, like tethered to their phone while they're outside. And this just means that we're missing a product that solves that need. And so for me, what mobile lets you do is kick all these tasks on the go so that you don't need to bring your laptop everywhere and make sure that your laptop's open wherever you are”
2026-04-23 · Lenny's Podcast · How Anthropic’s product team moves faster than anyone else | Cat Wu (Head of Product, Claude Code) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Someone who is non technical, you get a bunch of these scary pop ups on your machine and you can't click around the way that you're used to in pretty much every other product that you use. So there's a lot of people who just like don't feel comfortable in the terminal. And if that's you, I would highly recommend checking out CloudCode on desktop. Desktop is also great for getting an at-a-glance view of everything that's happening. So you can see your CLI terminal sessions in desktop. You can see your other desktop sessions. You can see your sessions that you kicked off on web and mobile. So it's a one-stop control plane where you can see all of your tasks. I think the benefit of web and mobile is that it's really great for kicking things off on the go. So CLI and desktop both require you to be on your local laptop. And this is constraining because sometimes you're out and about. You're like touching grass. You're going on a walk and you don't have your laptop open and you don't.”
2026-04-23 · Lenny's Podcast · How Anthropic’s product team moves faster than anyone else | Cat Wu (Head of Product, Claude Code) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, I tend to use color code in the terminal when I'm just kicking off a one-off coding task, and I want all of the latest features. The CLI is our initial product surface, and it's also the one where our features often land first. And so it's the most powerful of all the tools. So that's what I tend to use when I'm just like trying to kick off one or maybe like a handful of tasks at a time. I think desktop really shines when you're doing something that requires front-end work. And so one thing that I love to do is to use our preview feature. So if I'm building a web app, I'll often use CloudCode and Desktop. I'll have the preview pane open on the right-hand side so that I can actually see the web app that I'm making in real time as I'm chatting with Claude. It's also really great for people who want something a bit more graphical. A terminal can feel very unfamiliar to”
2026-04-23 · Lenny's Podcast · How Anthropic’s product team moves faster than anyone else | Cat Wu (Head of Product, Claude Code) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think one of the most important things for Anthropic is to grow the number of users that we're able to reach. One of the ways that we're able to do this is with the cloud subscriptions with our first party products. And so we just very much want to double down on that. But that does come at the expense of third-party products sometimes”
2026-04-23 · Lenny's Podcast · How Anthropic’s product team moves faster than anyone else | Cat Wu (Head of Product, Claude Code) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, when I think about mission, I think about putting anthropics goals ahead of any individual org or any individual product. And so for me, I think the second thing that we're very good at is focus, I think to me is slightly different. Mission means that teams are willing to make sacrifices that hurt their own goals and their own KRs in service of anthropics goals and anthropics KRs. And people are very happy to make those trade-offs. So like an extreme example is if cloud code failed but anthropic succeeded, I would be extremely happy and like we're like the whole team is very willing to make decisions that follow that chain of thought.”
2026-04-23 · Lenny's Podcast · How Anthropic’s product team moves faster than anyone else | Cat Wu (Head of Product, Claude Code) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“There's two competing priorities. We'll talk about which one is more important for anthropics mission. And it makes it a lot easier to decide which of the two we prioritize. And then everyone will stand behind the one that we decide. And so sometimes that means that like, hey, we want to ship something on cloud code, but this other thing is more important. And so we deprioritize shipping this and we just wait until later.”
2026-04-23 · Lenny's Podcast · How Anthropic’s product team moves faster than anyone else | Cat Wu (Head of Product, Claude Code) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The two most important things are one this unifying mission. It's hard to state how important this is. We hire people who care most about bringing safe AGI to all of humanity. And this is actually something that we reference frequently in our decisions about what our entire product org should focus on shipping. And because we put this like mission above any individual product line, we're able to make very fast decisions that cut across the entire org and like execute on them in a unified way. So I think this is like something that I've never seen at a company of our scale.”
2026-04-23 · Lenny's Podcast · How Anthropic’s product team moves faster than anyone else | Cat Wu (Head of Product, Claude Code) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, exactly. So in the past, we didn't actually want to do something like PowerUp because we felt like the product should be intuitive enough that you can, that you don't actually need to go through any tutorial. Over time, we've just realized that there's just so many features and there's so much demand for a built-in onboarding experience that we diverged a bit from our original principle saying no onboarding flow and added this because there's just so many users who wanted to know there's 100 features, what are the 10 that I absolutely need to use. And so we put that together.”
2026-04-23 · Lenny's Podcast · How Anthropic’s product team moves faster than anyone else | Cat Wu (Head of Product, Claude Code) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's fine. I don't feel like I'm missing out. I think with these agentic tools, not just called code and cowork, but like across the whole ecosystem, people feel this need to check Twitter every single day to see what the absolute latest thing is And I think there's more we can do to help people feel less like they're on this ever increasingly fast treadmill and that they feel like I would love people to feel like they can just open these tools. The tools will educate them or like teach them what they want to know and that they can just feel more bought alone.”
2026-04-23 · Lenny's Podcast · How Anthropic’s product team moves faster than anyone else | Cat Wu (Head of Product, Claude Code) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“What that means for someone who's a new user, though, is a new user might not know, okay, what is the best path to accomplish X? There is more education we need to do to help people understand what the core features are and what the best practices are for using them. I think this is the cost of launching a lot of features. I think users also feel like it's hard to keep up with the latest. Usually, in traditional PM, you ship a feature every month or quarter, and so it's really easy for a user to understand, okay, I just need to check in on this once a month and I'll learn some new things. And if I ignore it for six months.”
2026-04-23 · Lenny's Podcast · How Anthropic’s product team moves faster than anyone else | Cat Wu (Head of Product, Claude Code) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Sacrificing product consistency. Historically, when code was expensive to write, you would carefully plan out everything your product suite, how every product relates to each other, what the use case for every single one is, how they integrate, and you would pretty much have one product for each use case. And now with AI moving so quickly and with so many ideas that we need to test out, we do sometimes have features that overlap with each other. A lot of the times it's because there are two form factors that we love internally and we want to external audience to tell us which one is better.”
2026-04-23 · Lenny's Podcast · How Anthropic’s product team moves faster than anyone else | Cat Wu (Head of Product, Claude Code) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think if you don't have it, you'll get pretty burnt out. I think we also tend to hire people who have been in the industry for a while and have experienced lots of ups and downs and have a good sense for what gives them energy and how to maintain their energy over time. And I think that's helped us a lot.”
2026-04-23 · Lenny's Podcast · How Anthropic’s product team moves faster than anyone else | Cat Wu (Head of Product, Claude Code) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's okay because we'll hear the feedback and we'll fix in the next release. Launching a feature that is buggy is the kind of thing that would have kept me up at night, but it is something that I am now able to live with knowing that, okay, we're going to get that quick feedback and we're going to fix it in the next release.”
2026-04-23 · Lenny's Podcast · How Anthropic’s product team moves faster than anyone else | Cat Wu (Head of Product, Claude Code) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, it definitely gets harder. Like, I feel like there are a lot of weeks where maybe Sunday night there's some P0. And then by Monday, there's like a P0. And by Monday afternoon, there's a P000. And you're like, wow, I can't believe I was so worried about that P0 from Sunday. But I think you just have to acknowledge that there's only so much that you can do that you need to sleep well so that you can make good decisions next day. And just like brutally prioritize where you spend your time, what's the most important thing to get right and be okay letting things go? There's products that we ship that aren't as polished as I wish they were, but Know our top goal is to help empower professional developers, and if a product isn't successful, as long as it's not blocking the core use case”
2026-04-23 · Lenny's Podcast · How Anthropic’s product team moves faster than anyone else | Cat Wu (Head of Product, Claude Code) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think our team is still people who lean into the chaos, so we try to face every challenge with a smile because there's always so much going on. There's always so many risks and tricky situations that, you know, if you get too stressed about anything, you'll burn out. And so we really look for people who Can kind of like Be able to sleep at night knowing that I did my best”
2026-04-23 · Lenny's Podcast · How Anthropic’s product team moves faster than anyone else | Cat Wu (Head of Product, Claude Code) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think humans still provide a level of common sense that the models don't. And there's like a thousand moving pieces to any product launch. Some of them are very small, but there's always a lot that could potentially go wrong. I think the model doesn't always have a great sense of who all the stakeholders are, how they relate to each other, what their preferences are, what are the right venues to communicate with them, to keep them on board. I think a lot of this more tacit common sense EQ kind of knowledge is still very valuable. Of course, we want the models to get better at this, and I think they will be. But right now, I think there's still gaps.”
2026-04-23 · Lenny's Podcast · How Anthropic’s product team moves faster than anyone else | Cat Wu (Head of Product, Claude Code) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“To have this first principles thinking where you can figure out how the tech landscape is changing, what the team really needs from you, and to like jump in and fix that hole. Because I think the work is becoming more amorphous, which means that a great PM is able to understand what all the gaps are to figure out what the highest priority ones are, and then to just like figure out, okay, how do I learn that skill set or what is like the skill set that I have that I can apply to this challenge? So I think the current environment values people who are able to wear a lot of hats are able to swap them and are like very low ego about what work they do to help the team move faster.”
2026-04-23 · Lenny's Podcast · How Anthropic’s product team moves faster than anyone else | Cat Wu (Head of Product, Claude Code) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, I'm just saying that every few months, it seems like there's a. There's a large increase in coding capability, which then changes what other roles are valuable. I think Most important thing is to be able to.”
2026-04-23 · Lenny's Podcast · How Anthropic’s product team moves faster than anyone else | Cat Wu (Head of Product, Claude Code) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Think the valued skill sets does change quite frequently, and so it's really hard to predict more than a few months out. So it's less a commentary on what shift I think will happen and more of a commentary that I think large shifts will happen”
2026-04-23 · Lenny's Podcast · How Anthropic’s product team moves faster than anyone else | Cat Wu (Head of Product, Claude Code) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Maybe instead of debating it, you just spend an hour doing it. But if something is harder to build and you know that up front, then you know that, okay, this will just like cost a lot more for our team to get the south tour. So it helps a bit with the prioritization.”
2026-04-23 · Lenny's Podcast · How Anthropic’s product team moves faster than anyone else | Cat Wu (Head of Product, Claude Code) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I still think it comes back to product taste. Like, as code becomes much cheaper to write, the thing that becomes more valuable is deciding what to write. Like what is the right UX for this feature? What is the most delightful way that a user can experience it? We get tens of thousands of GitHub issues asking for every single thing under the sun. It takes a lot of care and taste to figure out okay which of these is worth building and what is the right way to build it. And I think that skill set can come from any background, but I think that's the most important thing. I think the reason why an engineering background is particularly useful, at least for the next few months, is if you have an engineering background, you have a better sense for how hard something should be. And that's often a factor in what you choose to build. So like if something is very easy to build, then”
2026-04-23 · Lenny's Podcast · How Anthropic’s product team moves faster than anyone else | Cat Wu (Head of Product, Claude Code) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I was an engineer for many years. I was in a VC very briefly before joining Anthropic. And actually almost all the PMs on our team have either been engineers or ship code here on COD code. And so that's one of the things that I think helps build trust with the team and also just enables. To move a lot faster. And then actually, our designers also have been front end engineers before.”
2026-04-23 · Lenny's Podcast · How Anthropic’s product team moves faster than anyone else | Cat Wu (Head of Product, Claude Code) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Engineer and PM are kind of overlapping, and you will get a lot of benefit from having more of either. I think product taste is still a very rare skill to have. And we'll pretty much hire anyone who we feel has demonstrated this strongly.”
2026-04-23 · Lenny's Podcast · How Anthropic’s product team moves faster than anyone else | Cat Wu (Head of Product, Claude Code) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think all of the roles are merging. PMs are doing some engineering work. Engineers are doing PM work. designers are PMing and also landing code. You can either hire a lot more engineers who have great product taste or you can keep your engineering hiring the same and hire a lot more PMs to help guide some of their work. On our team, we're pretty focused on hiring engineers with great product taste. This way we can reduce the amount of overhead for shipping any product. Like there are many engineers on our team who are fully able to end-to-end go from see user feedback on Twitter through to likeship a product at the end of the week with almost no product involvement. And this, I think, is actually like the most efficient way to shift something. So I think like.”
2026-04-23 · Lenny's Podcast · How Anthropic’s product team moves faster than anyone else | Cat Wu (Head of Product, Claude Code) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Making sure that these enterprises feel very confident and comfortable using our tools. And then we also have our growth team that In quality code and co work growth. And I know they also work with our other teams on CDP growth, so growth of people who use the cloud API.”
2026-04-23 · Lenny's Podcast · How Anthropic’s product team moves faster than anyone else | Cat Wu (Head of Product, Claude Code) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, so we have a few PM teams. I think we're maybe around 30 or 40 p.m. right now. So we have the research PM team who Diane leads. And this team is responsible for understanding all of the feedback from our customers for our models and then feeding that to the best research team to act on it. And they also shepherd the model launch. There is the call developer platform team that maintains the APIs that call code is built on top of. And they also release things like managed agents, which is a way for you to build your agents, and we can host it on your behalf. And then there's Cloud Code that works on both Cloud Code and the Cowork Core products. There's Enterprise that helps make Cloud Code and Cowork easier to adopt for all of our enterprise customers. And so this is everything from cost controls, RBAC, security controls.”
2026-04-23 · Lenny's Podcast · How Anthropic’s product team moves faster than anyone else | Cat Wu (Head of Product, Claude Code) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So we've been seeing a lot of demand for quad, and we've been working very hard to both scale our infrastructure and also to make our harness more token efficient so that you can get more usage out of it. It wasn't designed for third-party products, which have different usage patterns than our first-party ones. We spent a bunch of time trying to figure out what is the most seamless transition that we can offer. And so I was very happy to be able to say that everyone gets some credits alongside their subscription. But yeah, we did have to make the hard decision that we needed to prioritize our first pride products and our API. And so this is a decision that resulted from that.”
2026-04-23 · Lenny's Podcast · How Anthropic’s product team moves faster than anyone else | Cat Wu (Head of Product, Claude Code) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, yes. It's a process failure. And the most important thing is to just like learn from it and to add more safeguards so that it doesn't happen again. And so that's what we've been focused on and most of those have shipped.”
2026-04-23 · Lenny's Podcast · How Anthropic’s product team moves faster than anyone else | Cat Wu (Head of Product, Claude Code) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So we immediately looked into this when we saw it. We realized that this was the result of human error. There was a human working with Claude to write a PR. This was just an update to how we release our packages. And it actually went through two layers of human review. And so this was a result of human error. And we've hardened our processes to make sure that it doesn't happen in the future.”
2026-04-23 · Lenny's Podcast · How Anthropic’s product team moves faster than anyone else | Cat Wu (Head of Product, Claude Code) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We've been moving pretty fast for several quarters now, so I think it's not following methos. Mythos is an incredibly powerful model. We do use the models internally. And I think this has increased our rate of shipping a little bit, but I don't think it explains the bulk of the increase. I think a lot of it is the process and the expectation on the team. So we're very low on process. We want to remove every single barrier to shipping things. We want to make sure every single person on the team feels empowered to take their idea from just an idea to like out in the world in less than a week, sometimes even in a day.”
2026-04-23 · Lenny's Podcast · How Anthropic’s product team moves faster than anyone else | Cat Wu (Head of Product, Claude Code) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Oh, we actually do PRD sometimes. So I think for features that are particularly ambiguous, it does help to write out just a one-pager on what the goals are, what the delightful use cases are, what the failure modes currently are that we need to fix. And there are occasionally some projects, especially things that require heavy infrastructure that do take many months and for those situations, we do write PRDs still.”
2026-04-23 · Lenny's Podcast · How Anthropic’s product team moves faster than anyone else | Cat Wu (Head of Product, Claude Code) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So there's two things that we do. One is we have very rigorous metrics and we do metrics readouts with the entire team every week. The goal of this is to make sure that everyone deeply understands all the facets of our business, what our key goals are, how they're trending, and what drives them. The second thing that we do is we have this list of team principles, and this includes who our key users are, why those are our key users. And the reason that we articulate all of this is so that everybody on the team feels like they understand how our business works. They understand what's important to us and what we're going to trade off. And it lets people make decisions by themselves without feeling like they're blocked on PM or any other stakeholder.”
2026-04-23 · Lenny's Podcast · How Anthropic’s product team moves faster than anyone else | Cat Wu (Head of Product, Claude Code) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Is we actually ship almost all of our features in research preview. We clearly brand this when we ship something so that users Is just something that we're trying to get feedback on and iterating on, and that this might not be supported forever. And what this does is it reduces our commitment for shipping something. We can just get something out in a week or two. And then the third thing that a PM should do is help create the framework for the team so that they know when to pull in cross-functional partners and what those cross-functional partners expectations are. So for example, we have a really tight process between engineering, marketing, and docs. So when engineers have a feature that they feel is ready and that we've dog fooded internally, they post it in our evergreen launch room. And then Sarah, who leads our docs, and Alex, who leads PMM and Tarqu and Lydia on Devrell, just like jump in and can turn around the marketing announcement for it the very next day. And because we have this really tight process, it lowers the friction for any engineer to ship something. PM is the role that should be setting.”
2026-04-23 · Lenny's Podcast · How Anthropic’s product team moves faster than anyone else | Cat Wu (Head of Product, Claude Code) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think the first thing is to set queer goals because LMs are so general that actually creates a lot of ambiguity in who we're building for, what problems we're trying to solve with the top use cases are. And so I think a great PM is able to say, okay, our key user is professional developers. The main problem that we want to solve for this feature is maybe there's like too many permission prompts and people are feeling fatigue and like the use case is we want professional developers at enterprises to safely get to zero permission prompts. And that actually sets a pretty clear goal because it rules out a lot of potential approaches for reducing permission prompts so that people can get a lot more done with one prompt. And then I think the second thing that's very important is figuring out some repeatable process for getting these features shipped. So for COD code, what we do”
2026-04-23 · Lenny's Podcast · How Anthropic’s product team moves faster than anyone else | Cat Wu (Head of Product, Claude Code) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Roadmaps with your partner teams and more emphasis on okay, how can we figure out the fastest way to get something out the door? How can we figure out how to make a concept corner of our product suite where we can just, an engineer has an idea or a PM has an idea and like by the end of the week we are able to get into our user's hands i think the pms who do the best on ai native products are the ones who can figure out how can i like shorten the time from having this idea to actually getting the product in the hands of users and help define what are the most important tasks that need to work out of the box for my product”
2026-04-23 · Lenny's Podcast · How Anthropic’s product team moves faster than anyone else | Cat Wu (Head of Product, Claude Code) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think before AI technology shifts were a lot slower, so you could plan on the six to 12 month time horizons. And because you were shipping features at a bit of a slower rate, there was a lot more emphasis on coordinating with all the other partner teams to make sure that their shipping features that unblock your features because code at that time was very expensive to make. I think now with AI and with how much that has accelerated engineering and with how quickly the model capabilities are improving, the timelines for a lot of our product features have gone down from six months to one month and sometimes to one week or even one day. And with that, we actually need to make sure that products ship quite quickly. And what that means is as a PM, there should be less emphasis on making sure that you're aligning your multi-”
2026-04-23 · Lenny's Podcast · How Anthropic’s product team moves faster than anyone else | Cat Wu (Head of Product, Claude Code) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Things that, like, maybe I care a lot more about them, Boris, so like, I'll drive those and like 20% where he cares a lot more than me. And he just like drives those.”
2026-04-23 · Lenny's Podcast · How Anthropic’s product team moves faster than anyone else | Cat Wu (Head of Product, Claude Code) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I feel very lucky to work with Boris. He's been an amazing thought partner. He's our tech lead. He's very much the product visionary. And he is great at setting like, this is what the product needs to be in like three months, six months from now. This is like what the AGI pilled version of the product is. And a lot of my role is figuring out, okay, what is the path from where we are today to like that vision three to six months from now? I spend more of my time on the cross-functional, so making sure that our marketing team, sales team, finance, capacity, et cetera, are like bought in on the plan and that we're all rowing the same direction and that once the feature is ready, that there aren't any blockers to shipping it. I think in many ways it works well because we kind of like mind milled, but it is actually remarkably blary of a line. Like I think we're like 80% mind-milled and then there's like this 20% of”
2026-04-23 · Lenny's Podcast · How Anthropic’s product team moves faster than anyone else | Cat Wu (Head of Product, Claude Code) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Comes back to product taste as code becomes much cheaper to write, the thing that becomes more valuable is deciding what to write.”
2026-04-23 · Lenny's Podcast · How Anthropic’s product team moves faster than anyone else | Cat Wu (Head of Product, Claude Code) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“PM role is changing a lot, it's changing really quickly. The thing that is extremely important for building AI native products is iterating so quickly, figuring out a way for you to actually launch features every single week”
2026-04-23 · Lenny's Podcast · How Anthropic’s product team moves faster than anyone else | Cat Wu (Head of Product, Claude Code) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We want to remove every single barrier to shipping things. The timelines for a lot of our product features have gone down from six months to one month and sometimes to even one day.”
2026-04-23 · Lenny's Podcast · How Anthropic’s product team moves faster than anyone else | Cat Wu (Head of Product, Claude Code) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think it is very hard to be the right amount of AGI pilled. It's very easy to build the product for the super AGI strong model. The hard thing is figuring out for the current model how do you elicit the maximum capability?”
2026-04-23 · Lenny's Podcast · How Anthropic’s product team moves faster than anyone else | Cat Wu (Head of Product, Claude Code) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source