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  1. “Yeah. So gerrymandering is the best way to rig an election. That way the politicians pick their voters instead of the voters picking their politicians, right? So all these districts are so heavily gerrymandered that the incumbent almost can't lose. They'll push most of the voters into one district, most of the voters in another district because they don't want competition, right?”

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  2. “No, no, by both. The Democrats are so weak, Lex, they mainly don't do that, but they do do the third thing, which is gerrymandering. So both Republicans and Democrats.”

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  3. “To re register, and then they'll find that out on election day. And oh, well, sorry you couldn't vote this time. Remember to re-register next time. And so do they go, hey, we're going to take black people off the voter rolls? No. What they do is we're having more issues in these districts, right? Here's another way they do it. How many voting boosts do you have in the area? So primarily Republican areas will get tons of voting boosts so you don't have to wait in line. You go in, you vote, you go to work, no problem. You're in a black area run in a Republican state. All of a sudden, hey, look, that city, well, we sent you four voting booths. Oh, you got a million people there? Well, what are you going to do? I guess you got to wait in line the whole day. You can't go to work, et cetera. So that's the way of it.”

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  4. “Harvesting again, it depends on what you mean if you're just collecting ballast, that's okay. He changed the ballots. That's not okay. And so they had to redo that election. So now the real place where it gets rigged is before elections. And there's two main ways that things get rigged. One is almost exclusively, no, that's not fair. I was going to say Republicans, but Democrats do it too in a different way. So Republicans would come in like Brian Kemp is the king of this in Georgia. So he was against Trump doing ex post facto. He's like, no, you idiot. We don't cheat after the election. We cheat before the election. So they'll go, well, I mean, you got to clear out the voter rolls every once in a while. That's true because people die, people move, and you got to clean out the voter rolls. So then they come in and they go, we will clean them out mainly in black areas. Okay. Oh, look at that. There goes a couple of million black voters. Well, some of those, I suppose, are real voters, but they'll have...”

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  5. “No, you do. I mean, so it depends on what you mean by prove and when you vote, right? So you're not allowed to vote as an undocumented immigrant. So that happens up front. When you go to, like, again, it's Hall of Mirrors. Like there's so many different ways to create mirages. So the Republicans will say, well, when you go to the voting booth, they don't make your show a passport. Yeah, that's true, but you showed it earlier when you registered, right? And so, and we can get into voter ID laws, there's all sorts of things, but we got to, we'll speed up the spectrum, right? So these things almost never happen. Voter fraud happens super rarely and not enough to swing elections. And by the way, sometimes if there is an issue, they'll redo an election. There is actually a process for that. And it happened in North Carolina because Republicans did vote a fraud in this one district. And it wasn't the candidate himself. It was this campaign person and they did ballot harvesting.”

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  6. “And by the way, for the right wing who say verify the vote, goddamn right verify the vote, right? So you want to have different proposals like paper ballots, recounts, hand recounts, which, by the way, you had not the paper ballots, but the three recounts and a hand recount in Georgia and so many of these swing states, he lost, he lost, he lost. There was no significant voter fraud. Now, second thing in terms of rigging is voter fraud. And the right wing believes, oh my God, it's voter fraud everywhere. Not remotely true. Heritage Foundation does a study. They want to prove it so badly. And it turns out no matter how much they move the numbers, the final number they got was it happens 0.0006% of the time. Okay. It almost never happens. They found like 31 instances over a decade or two decades. So it's...”

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  7. “So rigged is another one of those words that triggers people and is ill-defined, right? So let's begin to define it. So the worst case of rigged is. We actually changed the votes, right? So a lot of Trump people think that that's what happened, nonsense. That didn't happen at all. So then you move. And by the way, on the left thought the votes were changed in the 2016 primary and it was literally rigged against Bernie. No, that did not happen. That is a massive crime and is very risky and is relatively easy to get caught. People who are in power are not interested in getting caught. They're not interested in going to jail, etc. It is a very extreme thing. Could it happen? Yes, it could happen. Have I seen any evidence of it happening in my lifetime? Not really.”

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  8. “Says, screw our Constitution, screw our rules. I want total loyalty to one person. Trump loves him. He loves him. He said once, he's like, oh, it's great. You go to North Korea or China. And when the leader walks in, everybody applauds. And everybody listens to what he says. That's how it should be here. No, brother, that's not how it should be here. You hate democracy. You want to be the sole guy in charge. As a populist, you should loathe Donald Trump.”

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  9. “Own side. So for the right wing, be honest. If it was Joe Biden or Barack Obama or Kamala Harris that went and wrote love letters to a communist dictator who runs concentration camps, you would say Communist we knew it. Look at that and Trump literally says about Kim Jong-un. We wrote love letters to one another. I fell we fell in love. If a Democrat said that they'd be politically decapitated, right? Their career would be instantly over, right? But Trump, whatever is Xi Jingping, Vladimir Putin, I'm not, don't get into Russia or Russia, but it's just that he's a strong man, right? Kim Jong-un or any Viktor Orban Duterte in the Philippines. Anytime it's a strong man that”

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  10. “In other words, I think I won. I don't even think that. I'm just saying that I won't terminate any rule, regulation, or article even in the Constitution. No, brother, you cannot terminate the Constitution because you'd like to do a fake elector scheme and do a coup against America. Fuck you. Okay, so I'm never going to allow this wannabe tyrant to go back into the White House and endanger our system. And so you want to endanger the corrupt system? I'm the guy. Okay. Let's go get that corrupt system and tear it down. If you want to endanger the real system, democracy, capitalism, the Constitution, then I'm your biggest enemy. So I'm never going to take that risk. And you see it every time he goes to talk to a dictator. Look, guys, I'm asking you to be principled, right? I asked the left of that and we drive away some of our audience when we do that. So we got the balls to do that to our own.”

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  11. “And so the idea is the Republican legislature then go, we're sending these new electors in. And we think Trump won Arizona and Georgia and Wisconsin, right? That was the idea. That was the plan. And then you come back to the House. At that point when there are two different sets of electors, the rule, constitutional rule is the House decides. But the House decides not on a majority because the Democrats have the majority at the time. They decide on a majority of the states. They vote by state. And the Republicans had the majority of the states. So in that way, you steal the election even though Trump didn't win. You install him back in as president. That is a frontal assault on democracy. And I loathe it. And then Trump on top just blabbers out, well, sometimes if there's massive fraud in an election.”

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  12. “In the States, they had the fake electors ready. Remember, the fake electors are not Trump's electors. Both candidates have a slate of electors. Biden's electors and Trump's electors. They go to the Trump electors first in this plan. And half the Trump electors go, no, I'm not going to pretend Trump won the election when he didn't win the election. So they're like, shit, now we've got to come up with fake electors. Okay. So they enlist these Republicans who go, yeah, I'll pretend Trump won. right and so they sign a piece of paper that's fraud and that's why a lot of them are now being prosecuted in the different states”

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  13. “Okay, so number one, I have the same exact thing as you. The fake elector scheme is unacceptable, totally disqualifying. So the fake elector scheme was a literal coup attempt. So he doesn't win the election. For folks who don't know, I need to explain why it's a coup attempt because you just throw out words and then people get triggered by the words and then they go into their separate corners, right? January 6th rioters They were not going to keep the building. That was not a coup attempt. It's not like, oh, the MAGA guys have the building. I guess they win, right? No, that was never going to happen. So what was the point of the January 6th riot? It was to delay the proceedings. Why did it matter that they were going to delay the proceedings? Because if you can't certify the election, they want a general confusion and chaos so that the Republicans in Congress could say, well, we don't know who won, so we're going to have to kick it back to the state.”

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  14. “If you lose hope, you're done for, then they're definitely going to win, right? Hope is the most dangerous thing in the world for the elites. So whether you're right-wing or left wing, I need you to have hope and I need you to understand it's not misplaced. We just got to get past the primary and we're going to turn this whole thing around.”

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  15. “Of course not. We're a small part of it, right? But we laid the groundwork for hope and we laid the groundwork for when he flopped in the debate, people had already been told, remember he's bad, he's old, he's not right, and the debate proved it. If we hadn't done that groundwork, and not just young Turks, obviously, but Axel Rod and Carville and Nate Silver and Ezra Klein, etc., Charlemagne the God, John Stewart, all these people helped a lot so that when the debate happened, it confirmed the idea that out there that he was too old and couldn't do it. So my point is hope is...”

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  16. “In a presidential election, as long as you got past the primary, you could actually win with not that much money. And that's part of the reason why I have hope, Lex, because all you got to do is get past a Republican or Democratic primary. And now that's very, very, very difficult, but Trump did it, right? Now he took it in the wrong direction, but he did get leave a blueprint for how to do it. And so once you get to the general election, you're off to the race you could do any goddamn thing you like, okay? You could be super popular. You don't have to give a shit about the donors. You can get into office. You could bully your own party and the other party into doing what you want and you can get everything done. You could even get money out of politics. So don't lose hope. I mean, we even started Operation Hope at TYT and our first project was to knock Biden out. And everybody said, you guys are nuts. That's totally impossible. And we knocked Biden out, all right? Did we do it alone?”

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  17. “Going to get almost no media coverage. So that's where your money and politics has the most effect. Because then you could just buy the airwaves. You outspend the other guy. You get all the ads. Plus, you get the friendly media coverage because you just bought a couple of million dollars of ads in the middle of Montana. So the local news loves you. The TV stations, the radio stations, the papers. So some of the papers are principal they might say, oh no, but overall they're not calling you a radical. They're not calling you anything and you're buying those races. But when you get to the presidential race, that's much harder. Because presidential race, you have earned media, free media that overwhelms paid media. Perfect examples 2016. Hillary Clinton outrages Trump by about two to one, but she loses anyway. Why? Because Trump got almost twice as much earned media as she did. And the earned media is better. It's inside the content, right? It is definitely better.”

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  18. “Yes, that's true. You're right. So you know why? So the presidential race is ironically in some ways the least corrupt. So let's dive into why. If you're running a local race anywhere in the country, you're going to get almost no press coverage, meaning a congressional race, right? If you're running a Senate race in the middle of Montana,”

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  19. “Because of the incentives and disincentives. So this changes every congressional cycle. And when Just Democrats were winning a lot, it got all the way down to 87.5%. But on average, for congressional elections, the person with more money wins ninety-five percent of the time. It doesn't matter if they're a liberal or conservative, Republican, or Democrat, or any ideology they have. 95%. So now let's say you got the 5% that went in that are not hooked on the money. Well, they're going to get a primary challenge. Then they're going to get a general election challenge. And 95% of the time, the one with more money wins. So eventually this system cycles through until only the almost only the corrupt are left.”

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  20. “Spectrum as a human being, right? So is Bernie. They're on the same part of that spectrum. But for most people, the great majority of the spectrum, if you overload them with software that incentivizes them to not have integrity, they will succumb. And now let's switch to politicians in particular. Why do I think that they're on average far more likely to be on the sociopathic part of the spectrum?”

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  21. “Is cultural influences. Your parents, media, your friends, all these are cultural influences. So now when you're in certain industries, they value more integrity. Religious leaders, if you're doing it right, which is also very rare, right? But if you're doing it right, you're supposed to have empathy for the poor, the needy, the whole flock, right? So that profession is incentivizing you towards empathy and integrity, okay? And even then, a giant amount of people abuse it, right? But okay, good. In politics, it creates incentives for the opposite, no integrity. And that software to your point, over time gets stronger and stronger and stronger until it takes over. Now, you might have someone with a lot of integrity like Tom Massey, right, a Republican from Kentucky. And whether I agree with him or disagree with him on policy, I get that the brother is actually doing it based on principles. And there isn't any amount of money you can give Tom Massey for him to change his principles. Why? He's on the principled end of the”

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  22. “Any empathy that I have ever seen for any other human being. The reason is because if you're like Trump and you don't, you literally don't feel the empathy, you think, why the hell would I go in the military, get killed for someone else? What a sucker No, I'm going to stay out of the military. I'm going to stay alive. I'm going to make a ton of money and I'm going to look out for myself. And he assumes because everybody does this. You assume that everyone thinks like you do, but they don't. So Trump assumes everybody's as much of a dirtbag as he is. And because he doesn't feel it, he doesn't feel the empathy. And so he's like, yeah, you'd be an idiot, a sucker and a loser to go into the military and have sacrifice for other people. So you see the spectrum. Even if you think Trump's not on that end and you think I'm wrong about that, you get that there are people on that end, right? So you have a spectrum of integrity, empathy, et cetera. That's what I would call your hardware. You layer on top of that your software. Okay. And the software.”

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  23. “Yeah, I get it. But, all right, so let's break it down. So first, human beings, then we'll get to politicians. Do human beings have integrity? Well, it's a spectrum. So some people have enormous integrity. Some people have no integrity. So there is not one type or character, right? So some people have a ton of empathy for other human beings, and they literally feel it. Like I feel the pain of someone else. And I'm not alone. Most people feel the pain of someone else. If you see it on video a baby being hurt, an overwhelming majority of human beings will go, no, right? You have empathy. That's a natural feeling that you have. Some people have no empathy because they're on the extreme end of the spectrum. Serial killers and Donald Trump. Okay. And so I'm partly joking, but not really. He has never demonstrated.”

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  24. “So, look, you're right that over time it gets way worse. And as we talked about earlier, Biden's a great example of that comes in anti-corruption, winds up being totally pro-corruption by the end. But he was also here for almost all of it as we started in a world that was not run by money and politics and is now completely run by money and politics. So does it get worse over time? Cinemas, Kristen Cinema in Arizona is a great example that comes in as a progressive, doesn't want to take pack money. cares about the average person, et cetera. Over time, she becomes the biggest corporatist in the Senate and a total disaster. But if you say that the majority of politicians have, I don't know if this is what you're saying, majority of politicians have integrity?”

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  25. “So likes everything is a spectrum. Humanity is a spectrum. So, can you find out who could take corporate pack money and still be principled enough to resist its lure? Yeah. And I would hope that I would be a person like that, but I wouldn't take corporate PAC money. But if you force me to, I think I would still stay principled and do it. Could you find 10, 20 other people in the country? Yeah. But on average, That is not what will happen. What will happen is they will take the money and do exactly as they are told.”

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  26. “I can steal man almost anything. I guess Steelman Trump. I can steal man conservatives easily, right? Corporate politicians, the hard one. So first, it's not all politicians. We can start out nice and easy. Tom Massey, now Holly and Gates not taking corporate PAC money, Bernie the squad. They don't take corporate PAC money. You could disagree on either end of those folks on social issues, but generally they are a thousand times less corrupt. They're more honest. And part of the reason you might hate this squad is because they're so honest. They tell you their real opinion on social issues that you really disagree with. A lot of the corporate politicians won't do that because they're trying to get as many votes as possible so they can fillate their donors when they get into office and do all their favorites for them. Okay, but you see I'm already falling apart on the steel manning of corporate politicians.”

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  27. “The Heritage Foundation It was their proposal, Romney did it in Massachusetts, it was called Romney Care. So I think this is a super important election, but I've earned the credibility to be able to say that because in 2012 I said this is a largely unimportant election. Mitt Romney and Barack Obama's policies on economic issues are near identical Obama care was literally Romney care. Right now the left says, oh, the Heritage Foundation, it's so dangerous Project 2025 Well, brother, they're the ones who wrote Obamacare and you say that's the greatest change in the world, right? So that's why the Democrats, yeah, I'll take the 10% change overall. I think Biden did about 15%, but Obama did 5%. But they also march you backwards by deregulating like Clinton did and Obama did, the bank bailouts like Obama did. But 10% is better than 0%.”

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  28. “And that's not because they're warm-hearted. It's a release valve, right? Oh, see, under Obama, we got about 5% change. What was that that was Obamacare, right? That was most of the change that we got. And what's the greatest part of Obamacare? And now a lot of right-wing also agree. Almost all right-wing agree about this portion, which is they got rid of a bias against pre-existing conditions. Why did they do that particularly? Because the country was about to get.”

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  29. “Yes. So Charlie, when he was on, said, hey, listen, you know, I think that there should be a captive. I forget if he said $10 billion or $100 billion in assets. If you have less than that, you should still be able to do real estate as an investment, even if it's residential. But above that, it gets to, okay, that's good. No problem. We can have a debate about that. We can figure out is the right number 10, 120, 5. No problem. You could put in reasonable limitations. But we got to get them to stop buying the homes. So when Kamala Harris says, oh, we'll stop them from buying homes in bulk. I'm like, okay, there's the loophole. And so they're going to use that loophole. And besides, which it's not going to pass, Wall Street owns the government. There's no way corporate Republicans and Democrats, which are about 98% of politicians, are going to limit private equity. And so when do we ever get a little bit of change when Democrats are in charge, they do 5 to 15 percent.”

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  30. “And Mike Lindell. And historically, though, we've been go back again 10 years, 20 years, we've always been respectful when someone comes on our show and we have a debate. As long as they're not yelling, I match the tenor of the host, right? You and I are having a reasonable conversation. I'm not raising my voice. I'm not yelling at you for no reason, right? So now when Charlie's not going to battle anymore for like talking points, I'm shutting off my mind all I'm doing is yelling at you, then I'm going to yell back at him. But now he's saying, okay, let's have a reasonable conversation. Great, I love it. I love reasonable conversation.”

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  31. “And at the time, I used to all the time because mainstream media would gaslight the fuck out of us. We're going to be greeted as liberators. Me and Ben Manquitz on the air. Ben doesn't yell as much. He's now the host of Turner Classic Movies. But he's saying it in a calm way. I'm saying it in a screaming way. We're not going to be greeted as liberators when you drop a bomb on someone's head. They don't greet you as a liberator. Stop saying insane things. And seven out of ten Americans thought that Saddam Hussein had personally attacked us on 9-11. We got lied into that war by corporate media. Okay. Now there's a couple of good things that Trump has done. One is get people to realize corporate media as the matrix, right? And so now and get them to an anti-war position. He himself doesn't have an anti-war position, but his voters do. And that's a positive. We can come back to that. But these days, the reason why the Charlie Kirk conversations are going great.”

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  32. “Being killed is awful, which it is, but forty thousand people being killed in Gaza is no big deal. We should keep giving them money, keep killing, keep killing, and that that's normal. No, it's not normal. I'm not going to let you say it's normal. That's nuts. Like we were against the Iraq war. There was only two shows that were on the air nationally that were against the Iraq war, us and democracy now with Amy Goodman.”

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  33. “Yeah, that's right. Yeah, quick tangent. And look, I've done a lot of yelling online. Okay. And I yell when A, there's an issue that you should be passionate about. 40,000 people, 25,000 women and children slaughtered in Gaza. If you're not emotionally upset by that and you think it's no big deal, I think that's a problem. But when you add gaslighting on top, that's what drives me crazy. And then when you add filibustering on top, then that sets me off. So for all my life, right-wing has gone on cable and filibustered. They take up so much more time than the left-wing guests. And the left-wing guest always goes, okay, well, I'm offended. He's taking up too much time. No, brother, go over the top. Go over the top. You're not going to talk over me. I'm going to talk over you. Okay. So, and then when you gaslight and you go, oh no, 1,200 people.”

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  34. “And you could tell in which proposals she means it and which proposals she doesn't because of the framing, right? So this is a mediocre example, but in housing, she said we have to stop private equity from buying houses in bulk. Mike, curious that they put the word in bulk there. Why does it have to be in bulk? Why don't we just stop them from buying any residential home? Like you could set up normal boundaries, right? For example, Charlie Kirk was on Young Turks this week.”

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  35. “What she's proposing. That's all political because the price gouging has already passed. They did it in 21 and 22. And so now the grocery stores are actually low margin business. She says grocery stores. That's how I know she doesn't mean it because the grocery store isn't the problem consumer goods were the problem. Those companies”

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  36. “We're going to get into a lot of minutiae, but I'll try to keep it broad. So price controls are a disaster. They never work. If you say, oh, here's a banana. It has to stay at a dollar, a pound, make up a number, right? Well, supply and demand is going to move. And then that's going to, and so the minute it moves to $2 where the price should be, then you're going to run into shortages. So we all know this. It's a bad idea, right? But are there laws against price gouging? There already are, and they're a good idea. So why? Like you have a natural disaster. All of a sudden the water that was a dollar, now they're charging $100. The government has to come in, democratic capitalism. They come in and go, no, I'm going to protect the people. So you're not allowed to price gouge, maybe charge $2, etc., but you're not going to charge $100. But it is temporary. We get that done. We end the problem there. And then we bring it back to a normal supply and demand.”

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  37. “In Medicare, because they're going to say, Oh, we don't have any options left anymore. Yeah, you don't have any options left anymore because you kept giving trillions of dollars in tax cuts to corporations. So we're going to have to pay for that. So then Trump, then Biden says, oh my God, I'm going to bring corporate taxes back up to 28%. I'm like, wait, hold on. They were a 35. You already did a slight of hand and said 28. Okay, then he gets into office and Mansion says, no, 25. That's the highest I'll go. And he goes, okay, fine. 25. And then while you're not looking, they just dump it. They don't even do 25. It's still at 21. So hear me now quote me later. I do predictions on the show all the time because you should hold me accountable. You should hold all your pundits accountable if you held all your pundits accountable. We'd be the last man standing. And that's kind of what happened. Okay. So.”

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  38. “That's easy because that is something that's super popular and she's not going to do it. That's why. So guys, this is where I break the hearts of Blue Magga. Blue Magga thinks, oh my God, these Democrats, they're angels. And the right wing is the Republicanans are evil. And they work for big business, but not Kamala Harris, not Joe Biden, right? Okay, well, Donald Trump took the corporate tax rate from 35% to 21%. So that's trillions of dollars that got transferred. Because guys, you got to understand if the corporations don't pay it, we have to pay it because we're running up these giant deficits and eventually either they're going to, not eventually keep raising our taxes in different ways that you're not noticing. They keep increasing fees and fines and different ways for the government to collect money. So we're paying for it. And on top of that, eventually they're going to cut your social security.”

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  39. “You shouldn't get paid anymore. Wait, hold on. So you're saying all other prices should go up, but the only thing that shouldn't go up is our wages? No, our wages should go up. Okay. So these are all easy ones. Here's another one. Anti-corruption. Why isn't she running on getting money out of politics? It pulls it over 90%. Why isn't Trump running on it anymore? He won when he ran on it in 2016. He didn't mean a word of it, but he ran on it. It was smart. They don't do it because their corporate donors take their heads off if they do it.”

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  40. “You should get 12 weeks off. Bond with your baby. Right now, In a lot of states that don't have paid family leave, you have to go back to work the very next day, or you have to use all of your sick days, all your vacation days, just have one or two weeks with your baby, right? So conservatives love paid family leave. Liberals love paid family leave. That's why it pulls so high. So why isn't she proposing it? It's not in our economic plan. Tim Wall's already passed it in Minnesota. He showed how easy it was. If you want votes, and then you know what's going to happen if your proposed paid family leave, the Republicans are going to go, no, our beloved corporations don't want to spend another dollar on moms, right? And they fall for that trap. And then you're in an infinitely better shape. So why doesn't she do it? She doesn't do it because her corporate donors don't want her to do it. $15 minimum wage layup over two-thirds of the country wants it because it not only gives you higher wages for minimum wage folks, but it pushes wages up for others. And what do the elites say? Oh, that's going to drive up in...”

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  41. “So let me give you examples so you see what I'm saying. So if you just wanted votes, you would do a lot of what Tim Walls did. And by the way, a lot of what Bernie did, that's why Bernie, who had no media coverage, went from like 2% in 2015 to by the end about 48% because he was just doing things that were popular, right? And the American people wanted, et cetera, right? Because he's not controlled by corporations. By the way, neither is Tom Massey on the right-wing side on the Republican side, right? So it's not all, that's why I always say almost all, right? So if you're doing things that are popular, people love it. So today, what would Kamala Harris do if she actually just wanted to win, right? So number one, she would try to pass paid family leave right now. Why? It pulls at 84% and even 74% are Republicans want it. Why? Because it says, hey, when you have a baby.”

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  42. “You say that that means A, I don't know what communism means, and B, I don't have any idea what's going on in American politics. Kamla Harris is a corporatist. That's her problem. Not that she's a communist. She's on the other end of the spectrum, right? The idea that Kamala Harris would come into office and say, that's it, there's no more private property. We're going to take all of your homes and it's now government property, all your cars, et cetera. She was not going to get within a billion miles of that. Her donors would never allow her to get within a billion miles of that. That is so preposterous that when you say something like that, it's disqualifying. Like, I can't debate someone who thinks that Democrats are communists when they're actually largely corporatists. You see what I'm saying?”

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  43. “Yeah, so here's where it gets absurd. I'll give you a good example of absurdity. So In a school, I believe in California, they noticed that Latino students were not doing as well in AP and honors classes. So they canceled AP and honors classes. Oh, come on. What are you doing? That's nuts. No, your job is to help them get better grades, get better opportunity, et cetera. That's the harder thing to do and the right thing to do. Your job isn't I'm going to make everything equal by taking away the opportunity for higher achievement for other students. If that's what you're doing and you think you're on the left, you're not really on the left. I actually think that's like an authoritarian position that a no progressive in their right mind would be in favor of. But it's all definitional. Here's another example of definitional. Communism. Like they say, oh my God, Kamala Harris is a communist. When you're telling on yourself, brothers and sisters, when you...”

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  44. “Regulation for corporations because you shouldn't really have freedom, companies should have freedom, right? And then guy goes, yeah, freedom for Axon Mobile. No, brother. They tricked you.”

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  45. “That's ridiculous. No, you don't. If you're a white woman, you have every right to speak out. You have every right that every other human being has. And so what I love for all of us to listen to one another, to have empathy for one another and go, hey, I wonder how a right-winger thinks about this. I wonder how a left-winger thinks about this. I wonder why they think that way, right? I love that and I want that. So I want you to listen, but I don't want you to shut up. So that 2% gets extreme and I don't like it. But on the right wing, you got your 2% who think that that's all that's happening on the left. And that's all that's happening in American politics. And they think the entire left believes that tiny 2%, right? And so they hate the left. And they're like, oh, I'm not going to shut up. I'm not going to wear a mask. I'm not going to do any of these things. And I'm not going to do anything. That's freedom. And then a Republican comes along and goes, oh, yeah, that thing you call freedom, that's Steve.”

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  46. “I love you, but you're totally wrong. Moneyed interests are not going to do $15 minimum wage. You have to start fighting now, right? And they didn't get it, so they lost on almost all those issues because it's all about incentives and disincentives and rules. If you don't fix the rules, you're going to constantly run into the same brick wall. Now, the second issue that we were talking about is in the culture wars, the rest of us are stuck between the two extreme two percenters, right, on both sides. So the two percenter on the left goes, you know, if you're a white woman, you need to shut up and listen now, okay?”

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  47. “Corey Bush. What did they do? They drove them out. Marie Newman drove them out, right? And because they're not on your side, they're not your colleagues. And what happened to $15 minimum wage? And I remember talking to one of those congress people, I won't leave out the name, and saying, hey, you know they're not going to do $15 minimum wage. And he's like, oh, Jank, you're out of the loop. Nancy Pelosi assured us that they are going to do $50 minimum wage. I'm like.”

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  48. “So, first of all, on AOC as an example, and I don't mean to pick on her, but she won through the great work of her and Shoykat Chakrabarty and Corbyn Trent and others who are leaders of the Justice Democrats that went and helped her campaign. They were critical help. And we all told her the same thing. So it's not about me, me, me. So we all said, you've got to challenge the establishment and you've got to work on money and politics first. Because if you don't work on money and politics and you don't fix that, you're going to lose on almost all other issues. But she didn't believe us because it's uncomfortable. And all the progressives that went into Congress, they drive me crazy. They think, oh, no, no, you're exaggerating. No, these are, and the minute they get in, all of a sudden, my colleagues, right? Your colleagues hate you and they're going to drive you out. You're a sucker. And Jamal Bowman.”

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  49. “Insane segments about Eminem should be sexier. Mr. Potato Head has gender issues. Guys, get out of there. Get out of there. It's a trap.”

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  50. “Some of them actually like this current system. Some of them, a lot of them have been tricked into liking this current system. And the left should be fighting against corruption harder than the right. But right now, unfortunately, that's not the case. So there's a lot that I like about right-wing voters. But you guys get tricked on social issues so easily, right? So how many people are involved in trans high school sports and a girl who should have finished first in that track race in the middle of Indiana finished second? First of all, this is the big crime. And how many people are involved? About seven, thirteen out of a country of 330 million people. And you can't see that that's a distraction, right? Everything that is like bait that the right wing media puts out there, they run after. I mean, Tucker Carlson doing.”

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