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  1. We can sit here in silence, or we can talk about this in this way. This large way. And hopefully, you know, when you start doing that, you'll start having more fulfilling conversations like this one I just had was with you.

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  2. But I'm talking about just those small conversations, those small conversations we have. We're talking too small, we're thinking too small. So this book is literally giving you some things to just simply talk big about, to think big about. That's why I end every chapter by saying let's discuss. Because I'm not an expert at anything. I'm not an expert at nothing. I just got some experiences and I got some thoughts. And I put them in that book and you read them. And next time you find yourself in a situation where you feel like the conversation is too small, I want you to say, yo. Charlemagne, Lennard, he said we don't got to do this.

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  3. And don't forget the why small talk sucks part. That is actually the most important part to me because What we just had here was a macro conversation. And I think a lot of times, you know, in this world that we live in, we're having too many small conversations. Like we make micros macros. Like literally, and once again, that's what social media does. It takes these micros and it makes them macros. And you don't realize that they're micros until you get out into the real world and you walk up to somebody and you talk to them like, hey, did you see such and such? And that person's like, no, I didn't. And you like, what do you mean? It's trending number one on Twitter. And they're like, I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Like that's literally the world that we live in. So when I say Washmall talk sucks, I'm not just talking about when somebody's trying to make chit-chatter with you. I hate that too. I can't stand it.

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  4. Worshiping that. That should be a tool. That's what you should treat it as a tool. You wouldn't walk around with a hammer in your pocket and you wouldn't be pulling out that hammer all day and just looking at it and staring at it. You wouldn't be pulling up that screwdriver all day and just looking at it and staring at it. So why are we doing that with our phones? Why are we all and verbally abusive relationships with social media? We all literally going, especially when you're a public figure, you'll go on these pages just to read people talk about how bad you are. These are all people that are dealing with the same things you're dealing with, the hurt, the pain, anxiety, the depression, the insecurity, the imposter syndrome. It brings them joy to talk like that to you and hope that it gets to you in some way, shape, or form. So why are we letting that in here? We can't have all these conversations about mental health and not really truly be protecting our mental.

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  5. I love the movie, well, not the movie, the book American Gods. It became a TV show. And, you know, in the book, American Gods, one of the new gods was the internet. It's like internet boy, social media. And I think that too many of us, man, are submitting our will to the internet. Literally, we're submitting our will to the internet. And if you talk to anybody who works in Silicon Valley, they'll tell you that the internet literally thrives off the seven deadly sins. The seven deadly sins, it thrives off of those. It is fueled by the seven deadly sins. So if you're submitting your will to something that is fueled by the seven deadly sins, then what are you fueled by? And you wonder why the anxiety is so crazy. You wonder why the insecurity is so crazy. You wonder why the imposter syndrome is so crazy. You wonder why the depression is so crazy. It's because you're...

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  6. Human, man. There's nothing inadequate about any of us. Like, we're literally all spiritual beings living a human existence. And that human existence. Is gonna go through a lot. But at the end of the day, like I think you said it earlier, man, we all got to return back to spirit. I love...

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  7. Man, I've had some really traumatic things happen to people that I genuinely love. Like, you know, I haven't lost a parent, God bless. I haven't lost a parent. I haven't lost a mate. A wife, a significant. That hasn't happened to me, but I've had that happen to people who are very, very, very, very close to me. I haven't lost a child. God bless. Yeah, people that have experienced that, I truly, truly, truly, truly, truly feel for them. And I know that we all will. I hope I don't. I hope my kids bury me. I hope my wife buries me. Yeah, that's the feeling that I don't. Want to feel. Even though I know I probably will at some point in life, a long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long time from now. But nah, you don't want to feel that.

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  8. The grief, the grief of death. 100%. Degree for death. That's the thing that, like, if I was an actor or an actress, I would never be an actress. Well, I mean, I guess I could be in 2024 if I wanted to be. But if I was an actor. They tell you you got to cry on cue, it's that. That's the thing that I dismiss out of my mind because it's just certain things. I always say the things you want to happen in your life you constantly think about and you speak about. The things you don't want to happen in your life you don't think about you don't speak about. Your thoughts creep up on you, but when they do creep up on you, you just got to push them out. But definitely for me, man, it's that feeling of grief when somebody close to you passes. Like that is...

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  9. Most of that stuff is written, too. Like when you look at those rap videos, most of that stuff wasn't even theirs. So, yeah, I've done that. I've gone to Miami and my partner E-Class, salute to E-Class. He tossed me his keys to his big bins back in the day. I drive it around Miami. I'm cool. I get my fix. I don't need to have one of those at home. You know what I'm saying? I don't need it. Like that stuff does absolutely positively nothing for me in any way, shape, or form.

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  10. You see a nice car and like, I don't want that. Well, you can't afford it You know how when you know you really mean that, when you can afford it and you still don't want it? I don't want it. What the hell am I doing in a Lamborghini? What am I gonna do with a Bentley? What am I gonna do with a phantom? Like, why does that need to be in my yard?

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  11. I've never wanted that in my life. And you know what's so crazy? I used to say that when I was broke. And when you say it when you were broke, you sound like a hater.

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  12. That means the world to me. And that's literally what I just want to do for the rest of my life. I want to be able to provide opportunities to people. I want to be of service. That's it. That's all we're here for.

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  13. And I was like, you were right. I see why you wanted me to go first My point with all that is the fact that I'm able to do things like that

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  14. South Carolina State University, and say, I am starting a scholarship fund and my mother's name, the Ford Family Endowment Scholarship, and I'm going to donate this amount of money, a large amount of money, right? And you can look it up and see how much it was, but by the way, it wasn't that large because Mr. Clyburn, who's a congressman here in South Carolina, I remember the day that we did it. We were both donating money to South Carolina State University because that's where his beautiful wife, Emily, went. She's from my hometown. He literally said to me, you should go first. And I was like, nah, nah, nah, you go first. And he was like, nah, you should go first. And I was like, nah, you should go first. And he was like, no, you go first. I'm like, all right, so I went first. You know, they hold up my check. I said it was a quarter million dollars, right? Blessed. I'm happy to be able to receive that. I mean, to give that. Mr. Claude goes up. There's like 1.3 million.

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  15. Hey, we got drinks, you're gonna drink. So to me, that was service. That was early versions of service. So I've always, you know, known that, you know, you got to give to receive. Like that's just how I grew up. So being that I never had much growing up, I just always felt like that was the way for me to show up for people, like do something for them. And now that I got a lot of resources, that's just amplified, you know? Like I really, I used to look at people that were put philanthropists in their bio and be like, all you're doing is giving money? Like, what does that even mean? But now you like, I understand. I get it. When you can go to your mother's alma mater.

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  16. Yeah, because I grew up broke. So when you grow up broke, I grew up broke, but I grew up watching my grandma even if we didn't have much. She always knew how to whip up a lot of food. And so, whoever was in the yard could come to my grandma's house and eat. Same thing with my pops. My pops was the guy who, like, they all like frying fish. You hear? You gonna eat, you know?

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  17. So that's all. Answer your question, I'm doing great. And the reason I'm doing great is because I realize that. Your true purpose in life will come through service to others. Dr. Wayne W. Dyer says that in the power of intention. I read that years ago and didn't understand what it meant. I'm talking about, I read this 20 plus years ago and didn't quite understand that what that meant. Your true purpose in life will come through service to others. I overstand what that means now.

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  18. And all of these different things. So it's just like that is what is fulfilling to me. And then being able to take those resources and do things like the thrill of possibilities summit, we're pouring into these HBCU students. I got a nonprofit called the Mental Wealth Alliance. Our goal is to get 10,000 black and brown people free therapy over the next five years. I do an expo every year. I think I'm on my like my fourth year, fifth year of that called the Mental Health Expo here in New York. It's a free event. I bring some of the best psychiatrists and therapists and spiritual leaders.

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  19. Yeah, historically, black colleges and universities. So we had three people from the summit come to the Black Effect Podcast Festival just to talk about the summit and how fulfilling it was for them. And then we're doing it again this year. The reason that gives me such a high is because, man, I'm all about service, man. Like that's what I'm about at this point in my life. I say all the time, if I'm building things, whatever I build nowadays, if it only benefits me, it's not big enough. And the things that I'm building now, whether it's my Black Effect podcast network, whether it's the company me and Kevin Hart got at audible called SBH Productions, whether it's the book imprint, Black Privilege Publishing with Simon& Schuster, I'm able to provide so many people opportunities. Like we got staffs and, you know, we got presidents of our companies, we're able to partner with people and ride book deals and

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  20. Kids out from these HBCUs because another event that we do throughout the year with the Black Effect is called the Thriller Possibility Summit. And we fly 50 HBCU students to Nashville, and we just have a weekend of panels for them. And we have different people who went to HBCUs who've gone on to have tremendous success in the world come and just pour into them all weekend long. So we had those three individuals come speak.

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  21. It's like seven or eight of your favorite podcasts on stage. People are from 11 to 7 o'clock at night, 11 a.m. to 7 o'clock at night. We got all the food trucks. We got the vendors. We got the merchandise. Like, it's a festival. So to be able to have a real live podcast festival to be doing it for the second year in a row to see this community of creators just come together for the day. That's very fulfilling to me. And, you know, another thing we do during the festival is we bring three people out from HPCUs because, you know, Nissan is one of our sponsors of the...

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  22. Right now, I'm doing great. I am blessed, black, and highly favored. I'm doing fantastic. I just came a fantastic weekend, man. We were in Atlanta, Georgia, because I did my second annual Black Effect podcast festival. Because, you know, I have a podcast network called The Black Effect. And we're the home of like 30 various podcasts. You know, everybody from the 85 South Show, the horrible decisions to carefully reckless with Jess Hilarious, all the smoke with Matt Bonds and Stephen Jackson. Like we have a bunch of different podcasts and we just had our second annual Black Effect podcast festival in Atlanta. And it's such a beautiful event because podcasting is such a new industry. And to be able to curate a space where

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  23. I would have known what I was dealing with. I would have been able to be like, oh, okay, I'm dealing with that. It's the same way you can see it in your kids. When your kids are dealing with those things, you can look at them and be like, okay, I know what that is because I went through that. To me, that's being, that's good. Even though my dad was dealing with all those issues, but him, if he was just telling me when I was young, if he would have just told me when I was young, this is what he was dealing with, then that would have been a good model for me. Follow because I would have known what it is I need to do much, much earlier than I did.

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  24. Has dealt with a lot of the things that you're going through because a lot of this stuff is genetic, right? Like if a person is dealing with their own anxiety, if a person is dealing with their own bout of depression, my father, he was already in therapy. He was already on 10 to 12 different medications. He tried to commit suicide. If he would have told me all of that when I was young,

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  25. Absolutely, 100%. Because, like I said, I never quite had the relationship with my father that I wanted to. And it's not too late. He's still here, right? But yeah, it did because I realized in that moment that he was just a man who was just doing his best. And he didn't have the tools that I have. He didn't have the resources that I have, even though he was going to therapy two and three times a week, even though he was on the 10 to 12 different medications. The state of South Carolina just started giving him a check. We used to call that a crazy check back in the day. You just get a check for being crazy. Like, I knew people who used to play crazy to get a check. I remember when I went to my mom and said, yo, did you know dad was going through all of this? And she was like, yeah, I just thought he was playing crazy to get a check. So it's like all of those, you know, if I would have known when I was young, if he would have told me all of those things when I was young, then I probably would have ended up on a totally different path much earlier. I guess that's another example of like, you know, role models, right? Because I think another time, a lot of times when we say role models, we think it has to be just about all the good a person is doing. But if a person...

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  26. So it's the same thing with President Biden. I can look at a million things that President Biden has done that I do not like. The 86 mandatory minimum sentencing, the 88 crack laws, 94 crime bill, all of that. There's a million things I can point to and say I don't like that he did this. But if the one interest is to at least protect democracy in 2024, or if you're somebody who got their student loan debt wiped away, that might be it. If you're somebody who can afford insulin now because of President Biden, that might be the reason you vote for him. So it's just like everybody has different reasons as to why they vote for different candidates. That's why I don't even think the question is fair when you say, well, what do you think about the people who voted for such and such? Like, I'm not the person I vote for.

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  27. Chalk everybody up to being a racist. You know, you can't just chalk everybody up to, you know, not caring about LGBTQ issues or whatever it is. People have different reasons and interests why they vote for people. It might be one thing. It might be one interest that they vote for. That's what they always tell you, right? They tell you to vote your interest.

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  28. What do you think about the people that follow Trump? Those people aren't monolithic. All of those people, those 70 plus million people who voted for Trump, a lot of them voted for Donald Trump for a lot of different reasons. I have actual friends who will remain nameless, who I know voted for Donald Trump. And I know they're great people. And they're in black. They're also black too. And they're not black conservatives. They're not in any way, shape, or form. They are black, like pro-Black individuals. And that's what I mean when I say having conversations with people because you get to see why people do different things. I know why. That person told me they voted for Donald Trump back in 2016. Just like I know individuals now who tell me why they voted for him in 2016 or 2020. And you can't just

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  29. If I was facing 88 counts of any criminal charge, I wouldn't be able to work at Walmart. Nonetheless, run to be president of the United States of America. So I just don't think that he's not somebody that should be in that position. But I understand why he is in that position because he's good at messaging.

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  30. I think that I say this everywhere I go. I think Donald Trump is a threat to democracy. I don't think that you should have anybody, especially in the United States, you can't have a leader of a country who said we should suspend the Constitution to overthrow the results of an election. I mean, he led an attempted coup of this country. Like we watched it. We saw it, you know. Yeah, I just don't think a person like that should be president of the United States of America. I think that if you're facing the type of criminal charges that he's facing, what is it 86 counts or something like that now? 86 counts, 88 counts, I can't remember the exact number.

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  31. I get attacked all the time for thoughts, for opinions, because I don't go along with the mob. And I'm not even a contrarian in any way, shape, or form. I just know that nothing is black, nothing is white. There's always those areas of gray in the middle. There's nuance to everything. You can be objective about everything, right? Like, there has to be a certain level of Well, let me see what this person is coming from. You got to hear both sides. To me, that's just common sense. And I feel like the only way to get the real truth about anything is if you see where both sides are coming from, I can't just dismiss you as wrong because you have a different opinion than mine or you feel differently than mine. I got to hear where you're coming from first.

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  32. How are you going to grow when you're not even watering your own garden? Because if you're getting on social media and you're reading what they're saying about you and you're catering all your thoughts and all your talking points to appease those people, you're not watering your garden. You're literally trying to water somebody else's. So as you're watering somebody else's, that continues to grow and that continues to get louder and louder and louder. But meanwhile, you just stagnate.

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  33. Right, you're 100% correct. That's why I laugh at a lot of these individuals because what also happens is, you know, they start whispering about me. And they start wondering why is this happening for him? And why does he get to do this? Why is that? Like, why is that going on? They look at, you know, because I keep growing. And they wonder why. They wonder why I keep growing and they don't. I tried to tell you. Disconnect.

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  34. I know what I got from it. I know what I feel about it. And I'm not letting y'all change my mind, okay? But they're doing that because they know that tomorrow when I'm on the air, I'm going to be talking about it. So they're trying to curate my thoughts and they're trying to push my thoughts in a certain direction. I don't want that. And I'm not even, I'm just using that regular example because it's. The freshest thing on my mind, but I'm like that with anything. I need my own clarity. I need to lean into my own discernment. What is my spirit telling me about this situation or this moment or this thing? That's all I care about. I don't care about any of that noise that exists on social media.

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  35. Go do some meditation to make sure that their thoughts are absolutely positively their own. Like I got people right now today hitting my phone, trying to tell me how they feel about the new Kendrick Lamar record. And I love Kendrick Lamar. I think he's fantastic. I think Mr. Morale and the big steppers in the future is going to be known as one of the most important hip-hop albums of all time. That one and Jay-Z444. But people are hitting me, telling me their thoughts and telling me their opinions. And I'm blocking all of that because I listen to the record and I listen to it five or six times.

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  36. Our personalities who have like podcasts or who may have YouTube shows, and these people will literally be on Twitter all day, be on Reddit all day, listening to what people are saying about them, reading what people are saying about them, encrafting their thoughts just to talk to them in that crowd, to just please them. I'm like, my God, how narrow-minded is that? That's why for me, man, if you claim to be an academic or you claim to be a well-educated person, you claim to be an intelligent, book smart person, I don't think you're that smart if you're emotional IQ is that low. If your emotional IQ is so low that people on social media can dictate how you move, how you think, how you talk, you're not a smart person to me. Smart people know how to disconnect from that. And smart people know how to.

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  37. And I think that constantly we got to constantly check ourselves and make sure we're always showing up as who we are and we're not pretending to be some version of ourselves. That's why you read Get Honest or Die Line. I talk so much about social media in the book because I'm watching so many people lose themselves to social media. Like I'm talking about intelligent, well-educated, well-read, academics are literally losing theirselves to social media. You can have conversations with them and you realize like all of their talking points are coming from social media. Like their thought process is being dictated by social media. These people care more about their relationships online than they do their actual relationships offline. Like I know people who

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  38. You know, probably constant anxiety, you know, a whole lot of insecurities, a whole lot of imposter syndrome because, you know, I'm from the country, so I believe in simple sayings like God can't bless who you pretend to be.

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  39. Nah, nah, nah, I did it. I did it here in the States. It was a beautiful, beautiful ceremony. And it was, man, it was very, very, very life changing. Like that's where I got the revelation. The revelation was, you know, stop lying to yourself and stop volunteering those lies to other people. It's like, yo, whatever you're at in your life, like for me, it's just like I want to show up and be my authentic self at all times. That's what I want to do all the time. And no matter where I'm at in my life, I want to present that. Being on that journey, it literally ripped away every single ounce of falsehood that existed. Like it just shattered it. Like, bah, I gotta go. I watched it in my mind, like, go up in flames, like literally.

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  40. All of that stuff. All of it, brother. Therapy, meditation, breathing exercises, I done did Reiki. I got crystals at home. I do plant-based medicine. I like all of it.

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  41. A lot of people, I mean, you know, I'm a big fan of the TV show Girlfriends grew up watching girlfriends. That's one of my wife's favorite shows. So when I would go to her house, when she was in college, she would have that on and we'd be watching girlfriends. And like, if you watch girlfriends, a lot of them were going to therapy. That's the first time I even heard of it, right? But then as I got older, talking to different people, and they were all ranging from men, women. I remember having conversations with Neil Brennan, who's a comedian, and he was in an interview talking about the benefits of therapy. My young homie, Pete Davidson, he was talking about it. My homegirl, Debbie Brown, like she was really into it. Like, not just therapy, but just all different facets of healing. Like, if you know Debbie Brown now, like, you'd understand why she was on that back then. Like, she's one of the leaders in the mindfulness, you know.

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  42. I feel like I did. Absolutely. I feel like I did. It wouldn't have been worth it. Even if I would have continued to have success professionally in radio, but meanwhile, my personal life, you know, I lose my wife, I lose my family. That's not worth it. There's no way on this earth where that's a fair trade for me.

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  43. That has been the one constant in my life. That has been my muse forever. That has been the person who's constantly made me want to be the best version of myself, even when I wasn't the best version of myself. Because when you ask God for certain things, he's going to, he or she is going to give them to you. So when you tell God, like, this is what I want. I want to be with this person for the rest of my life, or I'm looking for a soulmate, or I'm looking for, you know, my Hope Brady, or I'm looking for my, you know, Claire Huxtable. He's going to give you that, but are you going to be prepared for it when you get it? Same thing with any type of success. Yeah, God, he or she may give you that, but are you prepared for it? I think a lot of us are, you know, a lot of us get things that we're really not prepared for. And when we get those things, we're not prepared for, we don't hold on to them.

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  44. 26 this year. Absolutely. Absolutely. 26 years. Like we were kids, you know, and we literally grew up together in every sense of the word. Like literally, the first time I ever filtered out an application at a radio station, she drove me because my license was suspended. Like we were together since kids. Like literally. Like I was at her high school graduation. I was at her college graduation. You know what I mean? Like she, like I said, the first time I ever filtered that application at a radio station, she drove me. She went to college in Columbia, South Carolina. I got a radio job in Columbia, South Carolina. I ended up getting a radio job in New York. She ends up getting a job in New York City. Like, our lives were just like that all the time. We couldn't escape each other if we tried. And to be honest with you, I wouldn't never want to because.

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  45. I just saw it coming. A crash to me is losing your family. Your wife leaving you. I don't want that. Like, who wants that? I don't envy those type of, I don't envy people like that. I don't envy people who, and I'm not knocking them in no way, shape, or form, but I don't envy people who lost their families because of infidelity and now they got to visit their kids on the weekend.

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  46. Yeah, yeah, you're right. It's not simple because you'll constantly lie to yourself. And I think that's why so many people from the street always end up in the same situation. There's nowhere you're going to go in any ghetto America, USA, any rural town USA where an older person isn't going to tell a younger person, you keep living like that, you're going to end up in jail or dead. My dad added the other one or broke sitting under the tree. But everybody thinks they can beat it. Everybody thinks they can live a certain lifestyle. And if they just do this, you know, then that won't happen. Or that person was stupid. That's why they ended up like that. Nah. You live a certain lifestyle. You move in a certain way. All of y'all going to meet the same fate. And it's no different in that space. Like I was absolutely about to crash. I knew it.

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  47. This caricature that I created, you know, to protect this vulnerable young man named Lenard, am I really going to get caught up in that and completely lose myself? Am I going to do that or am I going to get back on the path that I know I'm supposed to be on? Am I going to get back on that righteous path? Am I going to do that? So I chose to go the righteous path.

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  48. This wasn't happy. And at this time, now I got two kids. Like, my oldest is like seven at the time in 2015. And my newborn had just been born. And I got married in 2014. So it's like, yo, am I really about to become my pops? You know, am I really about to become, you know, even though I love this man, despise the way he, you know, ended up treating his family, us, treating my mom. And I'm like, yo, am I really going to be that? Am I really going to get caught up in this radio star and I'm putting the star in air quotes lifestyle? Am I really going to get caught up in the women? Am I really going to get caught up in the drugs? Am I really going to get caught up in the alcohol? Am I really going to become a character of myself?

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  49. Nah, I'm scared to death. Everything that you saw was me. Was rooted in fear. It was rooted in I'm not going back to that. So whatever I have to do to not go back to that, I'm going to do. That's why you see the ruthless anybody can get it. You know, it's still a lot of pain there that I'm probably projecting on the other people. It's still a lot of hurt there that I'm projecting on the other people. Plus, y'all done tried to fire me out of this business four different times. Y'all thought it was sweet when I was down in Monks Corner, South Carolina living back home with my mom. Now all of y'all got to feel my wrath. Like literally, that's what I was on. And, you know, when you getting rewarded for that, that fuels whatever that is until you realize, like for me, it was around 2015. You're like, this ain't not what I want.

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  50. I was losing myself because you got to think, I'm still in survival mode. I'm still coming off being fired four times. You gotta think, well, my journey was from 1998 up until that moment. Up until that moment, I'm just coming out of my mom's house, living with my mom and Monks Corner, South Carolina. Like I'm literally, I just collected my last unemployment check.

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