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“And live in the liminal. Embrace the elder. There you go. Own the word. I'm trying to like bring back bring back the word. Elder. And separate from elderly, which is to me, that's the last 10 years of your life.”
2019-06-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think I would just finish by just saying that the more we fear aging, the more we're playing on the playing field of the youth. And there's nothing wrong with that. But if your intent is to just stay looking young the rest of your life, you're playing on the wrong playing field. It's a losing battle at some point. And some of us are embarrassed to see people who continue to play on that playing field. What I think people need to recognize is whether it's the depth of our emotions, the depth of our spiritual connection with ourselves and something bigger than ourselves. These are the things that actually start to grow as we age. And it's part of the reason why we get happier as we get older.”
2019-06-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's really nice to see you again. Yes, great to be here The first of many times, not necessarily on this show, but just hanging out. Oh, yeah.”
2019-06-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Mentioned Oscar Wilde earlier. I think one of my favorite quotes of all time is Be Yourself Everyone Else Taken. Yeah, that's a great. So that would be my Oscar Wilde quote I would probably slap up there.”
2019-06-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“On the shortness of life. You know, one of the things he says in that book is he says. It says something about the fact that it's not so much the shortness of life, it's how we waste it. And I think there's something to that in terms of what percentage of your life is being spent wasted. Also, a longevity thing that I've been thinking about lately is like imagine what age you're going to live to. And online.”
2019-06-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“In terms of his Speaking of philosophical, thank you. Marcus Aurelius Meditations. I have given that away to a number of people.”
2019-06-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, other than man's search for meaning, which is probably my number one gift, recently the last couple years, there's a book called The Hundred Year Life. The 100-year life written by a couple Brits. And it sort of says, imagine the future where the average person lives to 100. How is that going to change on a personal and societal basis? It's a really interesting observational book. The happiness curve, which we talked about earlier, the U curve of happiness is what we call it, but the name of the book is by Jonathan Rausch is called the Happiness Curve. That's become a favorite gift. I also love Danny Meyer, the restaurateur. And he's got one of the best books on hospitality ever written, which is called... Setting the table.”
2019-06-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, yeah. Or watch the whales. You know, nature is such a teacher. I got to say, I mean, being here in Austin, there's some really beautiful natural parts of Austin. And I think anybody who doesn't get romance by nature on a regular basis is missing that lyrical sense of what life is meant to be.”
2019-06-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And I really believe that. And I think that the thing that makes a modern elder different than a traditional elder is the traditional elder was about being revered. It was about reverence. You revered your elder, you respected your elder. It's not about reverence anymore. It's about relevance. And relevance requires understanding the modern day world, not just spouting wisdom that sometimes is timeless and age old, but it's actually knowing how to fit that age-old wisdom into the context of modern day problems. And so I think if I can spend the rest of my life being both curious and wise almost simultaneously, that is the potent alchemy that will make me hopefully a very happy person. But also someone who can actually influence other people in positive ways as well.”
2019-06-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So I think the idea of embracing liminality and sort of saying, yes, I'm moving to Austin. Yes, a couple years ago, I'm moving to Baja. And so... When you embrace it and you sort of see it as just the nature of life, it allows for it to see some of the secret beauty in some of the things you might be resisting. So I would say I'm still liminal. I would say the chapter-wise, I do think my process of moving from being in the trenches, helping to run Airbnb for four years. And then two years now as a strategic advisor, huge change in terms of my day-to-day living when I was day-to-day there versus just sort of advising Brian and the founders on things now. So I'd say that was a healthy change. I don't know more than anything, I'm just curious. Peter Drucker taught me that curiosity is the elixir of life.”
2019-06-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You know, there's some blogs that I've seen in the past, and at the end of the day, the instinctive to me is best, but that between stimulus and response is important because it's really easy to be reactive with a kid who's just acting out. Sure. It's a little more complicated in my case because I'm not with the boys every day. Whereas the moms are. And so I also don't want to pull rank and sort of do anything that suggests their approach to parenting is not my approach. So I'm pretty much instinctively trying to work with their approach as well. You know, there's a beautiful Dan Gilbert TED talk about the fact that we all underestimate how much change is ahead of us at every, frankly, at every different era of our life.”
2019-06-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I was with at that time and is one of my best friends now. And here's this kid whose darker-skinned, moving, who's straight at age 13, moving in with two white gay men. And it's like, it was perfect for a sitcom. It taught me a little bit about parenting in the early days. Very different experience, though. But I do think that this idea of having younger people who need your tutelage and love helps us get out of our ego. It is absolutely, you know, there's no doubt that, you know, it's a Zen practice to actually be with a little child. And they take all of your attention. But I think it's been certainly the process of how we define and create family has certainly evolved a lot in the last three or four decades”
2019-06-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think it was partly because they ended up having two boys, and I think, you know, and if they'd had the two girls, two girls that say, I'm not sure if it would have been different. My thinking is it might have been different. I think the fact that there are boys, like they want their dad and they want to go pallor around with dad on the beach and things like that, you know, I think that had some influence maybe, although we've never talked about that. But more than anything, I just, you know, you just start loving, you know, these kids. Now, I had had a foster son When I was 28, I became a foster parent to a 13-year-old from the tenderloin, that district where my first hotel is, whose father's black, mom's white, and basically, and he ended up homeless because his parents were just not very responsible. And so I had had an experience of being a parent, but it was a really unusual experience. It was me and my partner, my Israeli partner who...”
2019-06-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, I think this idea that literally I had, I psychologically analyzed myself and I thought, I really have had a lot of apparent energy being the mentor and almost father figure for so many people in the company. And that was going to change. And I didn't necessarily understand what kind of gap that would create in my life. So the timing was perfect. So I understand your point of view. And yet I was in a place where there was a part of me that was thirsty for it. Yeah. And because the women were so self sufficient about how they wanted to do this, I figured, okay, let's see it. And I didn't know whether it was going to turn out as it's turned out, which is a much more integrated in the boy's life.”
2019-06-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I was there to be the boy's dad when I'm there and I'm there a moderate amount and they come down to Baja a lot. And it's been beautiful. It's been a great way to give these boys a lot of love and in essence three parents instead of two.”
2019-06-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I don't have any legal rights, financial obligations, and we'll see how it goes in terms of whether the boys or the kids, boys or girls, will know who their dad is. So that sort of like, okay, I mean, it's pretty transactional, although, you know, probably a little bit more like, okay, maybe it'll be more than that, but let's see it as we go. Well, they ended up, the two women ended up having two boys. And more than anything, I think the women who You know, they live in the state of Texas and so the rules around this were tough. Texas is a little bit more of a conservative state. And so there was some worry that, okay, well, I'm the real biological dad. And so can the non-biological mom be a mom? And long story short is we got to a place where it was beautiful. They knew that my intentions were not to be the full-time dad or to even be in a co-parenting role.”
2019-06-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Ask you about that next. So, the women live in Houston. Laura has been a longtime friend of mine, and she asked me, her timing was perfect. She asked me three weeks before I was selling my company, Shirad Aviv. And I was like the mama and the papa of Joad Aviv. So I didn't have a co-founder, ran that for 24 years, knew almost everybody in the company, 3,500 employees. I had a lot of parent energy that had gone into my company. And I was wondering, like, wow, what's going to happen when I like step away from that? And three weeks before we made it public that I was actually excelling, she approached me. And I'd been approached before by lesbians who wanted my sperm that, you know, but I'd always said no. And so this time I said yes. And so the idea was, frankly, they're going to be in Houston. I'll be the sperm donor.”
2019-06-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And yeah, so I've ever since age 22 pretty much just been an outly gay man and have had two long relationships and now have a couple of sons with a lesbian couple.”
2019-06-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But, you know, back then, wow, I mean, I came out the summer that Newsweek had the cover story about the gay cancer called AIDS. And so it was a really, really not an easy time to come out. Certainly not an easy time to come out in terms of the world that we live in today compared to then in terms of especially someone who's like hardcore business guy. And so when I started my company at 26, people knew I was gay and sort of an unusual thing to have sort of a founder, CEO of Gal. I was living in San Francisco and I was a boutique tell company. So that made it a little easier.”
2019-06-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And then I was in a fraternity at Stanford, and that's where it started like messing with my mind being a fraternity with a bunch of guys who I had some attraction to, but I wasn't doing anything about it. And I was dating a couple different women. And it was in between my first and second year of business school. I was 22 years old, living in New York, working for Morgan Stanley, investment banker by day. And at night walking into my first gay bar. And that's when it was like, you know, like Wizard of Oz Munskin land, you know, went from black and white to Technicolor. I was like, oh, wow. Well, this feels a little more. This may be a thing. Yeah, this may be a thing. And so...”
2019-06-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“All I wanted you to do was be a better version of me. And that was so interesting to hear that. I always knew that was the case, but I never heard him. He's like, dad, I know. And that fucked with my mind. So I did everything I could to sort of just be this better version of dad.”
2019-06-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I was 22 when I came up, so I was and dated women girls, I was very actively sexually in my high school. And so, but I knew behind the scenes like there was something there. I grew up with a father who I love, both my parents are still living there, 81. But my dad was Stephen Sr. I was Stephen Jr., the chip off the old block. And my dad was a captain in the Marine Reserve hardcore dude, and I was the oldest and the only boy. And so I was meant to be like the mini version of dad. So my process of being Eagle Scout like my dad, all American water polo player, you know, in high school and then playing water polo at Stanford, student body president, all this stuff was like, I was on the path to be just actually my dad and I talked about this recently. He said,”
2019-06-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah. So that's what they are. So it's a mixture of, I would say, values and ways of being. And we have a list of 60 of them and they come up with their top five and then those top five. And then over the course of the week, we don't force them to go back to it, but there's some exercises we do that allow them to on their own sort of look at see how those have changed.”
2019-06-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“An example could, I mean, some of the most obvious ones are family religious beliefs making a difference in the local community or trying to change the perspective on climate. Being feeling free. So that's not that some people say that's not a value, but that's sort of a way of being.”
2019-06-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Values, you know, number one value is this, and you know, now it looks like it's not there anymore. What's going on? So that's part of what happens too.”
2019-06-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Things begin. They've got to read the book, Wisdom at Work of Modern Elder, and they do two exercises, one which is an identity cleanse where they actually talk to their friends about what parts of their identity work, what parts of their identity don't work so well. So they actually get some feedback. And then, and this is before they arrive, and then they do a values inventory of like what are the values that are most important and stack ranking them so they try to get clear going into it what are the values now later in the week they often go back to that list and say oh my god now that i've had some time to think about this my values list is a little different and so they ask themselves then how can they how we ask them and we we work with them because because after people leave that group of 12 to 18 people in the cohort they literally for some of the groups have a weekly zoom call every single week so they're sort of accountability partners and and people who can sort of help them say okay yeah you said you're”
2019-06-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Amazing. It's a soul, it's a heart. And I'm no longer going to let my ego sort of be the thing that I lead with. And then I come up with a list of things. What are the practices or ways of being that actually have to change in order for that to be the case? So those are some examples just off the cuff. I wish I had a list right now.”
2019-06-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I do Well, one of the ones I mean, since you've heard my health diagnosis, I said I've recently been given a scary health diagnosis. I feel a little lost. So that would be an example of a name tag. Another name tag would be, yeah, I think I might never meet the soulmate that I met six years ago and no longer in that relationship. I am in the relationship, but it's turned into a different kind of relationship. Another one could be another one that I've written. And then ultimately burned is it's time to take down the scaffolding of my ego. So what does that mean? It means like over the course of my teen years and growing up, you build an ego. We sort of create this container. And our ego can be a very healthy thing. It can actually create the separation. It's the thing that actually helps us to know who we are. But it is a bit of a scaffolding. Like what I mean by taking down the scaffolding of the ego is really sort of saying behind that is something that's really”
2019-06-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Will no longer be my sense of success in life. That's an example of something saying, okay, I'm going to put that in the fire and then let it burn. So that's an example of a specific kind of exercise we do. We do a lot of mindfulness exercises as well in terms of helping people calm their nervous system.”
2019-06-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That's right. Exactly. And so then you go around a room, and you can do this with like four friends, and you go around the room and look at each other's name tags, and then you ultimately have a conversation one-on-one or in a small group about why these aren't serving you anymore and how you're going to be willing to get liminal and try transitioning into something new. And so as a result of that, we end the afternoon with a little fire pit. We don't walk on any coals or anything like that. We just have people write down what's the thing that they're ready to evolve out of that's no longer serving them. And it could be some of the examples of things are like, you know what, my sense of my success in my career”
2019-06-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That's great. Millennials rule the world. There's a variety of different things we have there. And then people a lot of times use their own name tags. And what we do is the crescendo of this experience that afternoon is people slap up to six different name tags on their chest. We go around a room.”
2019-06-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So we do this exercise where there's a whole counterfeible of name tags, empty name tags. 40 of them are actually empty, 120, we've written different kinds of mindsets, ways of perspective, or ways of identifying yourself that aren't serving you anymore. Now, if you were to do this on your own, no one's going to write those for you. You'll have to write these yourself. But the process of this was what you can do is you actually write down anything from my body is falling apart or I'm never going to meet the love of my life.”
2019-06-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yes, exactly. Subliminal messages. So liminal is sort of right there and it's sort of in between two things. It's the transition that frankly a caterpillar to a butterfly, the cocoon, is the liminal state. People don't like to be in a liminal state. When you're a kid, you're used to it because everything's in between. Everything's in between, going from crawling to walking, you know, going from pre-puberty to an adolescent and a teenager. But when you're an adult, you don't like to be liminal. And yet we have all these transitions in midlife that actually make us feel liminal.”
2019-06-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The second step is to learn. The third is to collaborate, and the fourth is to counsel. And we can come back to that if we want in a moment. But evolve. Wow, what does that mean? It really means learning to edit what is no longer serving you. So we do a lot of different exercises around the idea of liminality, which is being in between two things.”
2019-06-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, I think the basic premise of the Academy is that in midlife you need to sort of reframe your mindset for what's moving forward. There's a famous Carl Jung quote about you can't live the afternoon of your life the same way you did the morning. And so speaking to that, we have an exercise around evolution evolving because the first lesson in my book, Wisdom at Work, the Making of a Modern Elder, is to evolve. And it's the hardest one.”
2019-06-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And it was that idea of belonging anywhere that helped us to then imagine how could we edit all of the possibilities of the things we could go into. Similarly, any executive or any person...”
2019-06-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That five times, it really almost is like an archaeological dig to figure out the essence of your company. What's your soulful differentiator as an organization? This is how we found out that we were in the identity refreshment business at Jo ⁇ de Vivre. And it was the same idea that we applied to Airbnb when it came to an off-site retreat. We did relatively soon after I joined the company. We sat our executives in pods of two so they couldn't hear each other. Any company could do this. And we had them go through this exercise of asking the question five times, what business are you in? You can't answer the same way twice. And the beauty of this is we ultimately got us to a place over the course of that day where we came to the conclusion that belonging anywhere was really the mantra, the definition of what differentiated us versus the marriots of the world.”
2019-06-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“An article from 1960 called Marketing Myopia by Theodore Levitt. And then management theorist and author Peter Drucker took that idea one step further. He said the most important question any business leader could ever ask themselves is what business are we in? Well, back in the Mejo Vivira, we took that idea of what business are we in and we turn it into a little bit of a game. The idea was we would be asking executives or senior leaders to ask themselves that question in the following manner. So one person would sit facing the other, the person asking the question would say, what business are we in? And the second person, the person answering would say, okay, we're in the boutique hotel business. The first person would say, thank you, what business are we in? And this time the second person, the person answering could not answer the same way twice.”
2019-06-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Had excess supply. There are a lot of natural sharing economy businesses that could be created, but we also had to ask ourselves, what's the dream of what we want this to look like five years from now? Or maybe even 10 years from now, because Brian really wanted us to look very far into the future. And maybe that dream could help become an editing function. So for me, that reminded me of something I did back in the Joie de Vivre era when I was running my boutique hotel company. When we were trying to figure out what's our differentiator versus Marriott or even Kimpton, another boutique hotel company, we actually imagined the idea that we could ask the question, what business are we in? Because the number one Harvard business review reprint of all time came from”
2019-06-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I was a new guy in the job, and I was the old guy on the job. I was twice the age of the average person in the company, you know, 20 years older than I was 21 to 23 years older than all three founders. But I think what they appreciated was there was an element of, I think, a modern elder versus a traditional elder is the differences. The modern elder is as curious as they are wise. And it's that curiosity that opens up possibility and the wisdom is what distills down the essence of what's important. And it's that essence of what's important that I think we got to in those three days in New York where we sort of said, okay, so what is it that we want to be when we grow up? We want to be a place where people can belong anywhere. We had not said that out to the public yet, but that was the direction we were going in terms of our internal mantra of the two words that defined us. We also looked at could we take the idea of the Airbnb sharing economy to office space or conference facilities or anything that”
2019-06-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And nobody in the company, including the founders, could actually recite all of them. So later that year, we did an offsite retreat in New York, and I said to the leadership team, of which I was now a part, I was Brian's mentor, but I was also reporting to him as the head of global hospitality and strategy. I said, we've got to get down to four. So for 2014, we are only going to have four strategic initiatives. And so we spent three days arm wrestling over that one, 23 different potential initiatives that we were going to do. And it was that kind of distilling down. I think...”
2019-06-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It actually gets you older move from the linear left brain to the creative right brain much more easily, more adeptly. And what does that lead to in terms of a positive? It leads to being able to think more synthetically, holistically, get the gist of something. So if you want somebody on your team to actually sort of hear it all and then distill it down to the wisdom of what they just heard, an older person can do that better than a younger person. Younger person is much better at doing focused. So why is that relevant? Well, let's talk about Airbnb for a moment. At Airbnb, when I joined six years ago, I love the founders and they were doing an amazing job and the company would have been successful without me. But when I joined six years ago and it was maybe one twentieth of the company today, we had 30 strategic initiatives in the year 2013 when I started.”
2019-06-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And so I think the idea that, or the aging brain, we know the aging brain, we have less recall. What's your name again? Oh, that's right, Tim. The aging brain doesn't have recall or is not as quick as it used to be. But a lot of people don't know about the aging brain is it gets more adept at doing left brain-right brain tango, which means basically the brain shrinks a little bit as it ages.”
2019-06-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“To now because her daughter's here. Yeah, exactly. So the great unraveling that happens in midlife where people actually start to discard things and they move from the accumulating mode to the editing mode. So that editing mode, the idea that people are moving into that mode leads people to get to a place where they get happier with each successive decade. So people are happier in their 50s than their 40s. They're actually happier in their 60s than their 50s. And they're happier in their 70s than their 60s. Men start to flatten out in their happiness in the second half of their 70s. Women, it starts happening in their early 80s. So in essence, what it's saying, because women live longer than men, is there's a point at which five to ten years before you die, you actually start to maybe get a little bit less happy because there can be acute health issues going on. But that's fast.”
2019-06-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But there's something to that. Every other country in the world that has been studied what they show is the following from about age 25 to about age 45, between 45 and 50, depending on the country, Is a slow decline in happiness because of that accumulation, because of that collection of things that we start to do that prepare us for midlife. And then between 45 and 50, there's this, what Brene Brown would call the unraveling.”
2019-06-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So the U-curve of happiness has been proven in every country but Russia. Russia people get happiest after they die. It's a statistical error of clear.”
2019-06-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“For sure. I just like the idea that a legacy I can look to in my life is to create a way for people to aspire to aging. You know, aging is not something that we aspire to. And yet there are a lot of real unexpected pleasures of aging. The U-curve of happiness, do you know that? Do you know what? No. Oh, God, let's talk about this. So U-curve of happiness is so fascinating. It's so at odds with the societal narrative.”
2019-06-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Honestly, the path that you're talking about, I was in contract negotiations on a second location and in discussions on a third location when I found out about my cancer on the second day of the book tour right before the TED Talk and six weeks before the modern elder academy was opening to the public after a six-month beta period. So at that moment I said no I keep saying no. The thing I will do is create sort of like the startup kit. Here's how you can create one. Not a modern elder academy. We may only have one location in the world, but a midlife wisdom school. You call it what you want it to be. Here's how we can do it. I don't want to make, you know, it could be a consulting opportunity, but I don't really care about the money on it. I'm lucky enough, thank God for the Airbnb last six years of being there because I don't have to worry about money.”
2019-06-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Proof of concept and a catalyst for other social entrepreneurs around the world to say, let's create one in the sacred valley of Peru or in Kyoto, Japan, or in the Catskills of New York.”
2019-06-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah. So, like Burning Man created Burning Man created a great idea. And so there's a bunch of 10 principles festivals around the world. Esilan, great idea 1962 led to 100 personal growth retreat centers. Gotcha.”
2019-06-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT