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  1. Chris Wallace, thank you for being I would love to do that. I have thoroughly enjoyed this and at the risk of hurting you and your credibility, I will say that there was nobody in the Obama White House who treated me more fairly, more openly in good nature than you. And it's one of the reasons.

    2017-01-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 112 - Chris Wallace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  2. Maybe That's not fake news. I think it's biased news. I think it's irresponsible news. But I don't think it's fake news. Fake news are just concocted news stories which have aren't biased. They just have no tie connection to reality at all. They're just made up, and that's inexcusable and dangerous. And the fact that people fall.

    2017-01-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 112 - Chris Wallace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  3. And frankly, just one quick example, the New York Times, on the second day, the day after, so it was, I guess what, it would have been Thursday morning, look at the headline in the New York Times, the Thursday after Election Day, November 10th. And the headline was, Democrats, students brace for Trump presidency. I mean, can you imagine a headline of Hillary Clinton had won Republicans, workers brace for Clinton presidency? Fair enough.

    2017-01-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 112 - Chris Wallace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  4. Sure. Sure. I mean, look, you know, I'm as horrified by some of the Breitbart headlines as you are and as I think any sensible person would be. Look, I'm for all four responsible journalism. It's what my father devoted his life to. It's what I have devoted my life to. I just think that as guilty as you think conservatives are of just wanting people who agree with them that there are liberals who just want news sources that agree with them. Yeah, look, I'm worried that we're all headed.

    2017-01-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 112 - Chris Wallace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  5. I agree, David, but here's the whole point of Roger Ailes and Rupert Murdoch when they started Fox News. They felt that where everybody just talked about these three objective nonpartisan networks, that there were millions of people around the country who felt that there was a political slant there, that nobody was talking about, that there was an inherent bias in ABC, NBC, and CBS. And one of the reasons that I think you found such a hunger and such an audience for Fox and for conservative talk radio is because people felt that they were only getting a portion of the news and a portion of the news that affirmed rather than informed their point of view. So, you know, there are two sides to that story, and I'm not sure that we aren't sort of past that day, not in the sense of past a day of objectivity, but past the idea, the day of thinking that there's any

    2017-01-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 112 - Chris Wallace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  6. First of all, I have, I will, I mean, you know, one of the points I do local hits. We're doing this on a Friday, and I do local hits with stations around the country, and obviously everybody's talking about the showdown between the intelligence community and Trump. And one of the things I've been talking about, how was Trump and his tweets talks about the intelligence community and puts intelligence and quotes, you can't have that. You can't have the president denigrating the 17 agencies of patriots who risk their lives in many cases to try to give them the best information to make decisions. The idea, and this is something I've said as well, but this is why you like me, because I don't follow any party line, I think that the embrace of Assange by conservatives has been disgraceful.

    2017-01-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 112 - Chris Wallace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  7. A news cycle was 24 hours. And, you know, winning the news cycle meant winning the day. Now it means winning the minute, the minute, the second.

    2017-01-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 112 - Chris Wallace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  8. Wait a minute, don't you think that's always existed? I mean, you know, it is called the news business. I will agree with you that the balance on the seesaw has shifted somewhat. But, you know, I can remember working at the Boston Globe that around Christmas, if there was going to be a story.

    2017-01-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 112 - Chris Wallace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  9. The Boston Glove, there was an absolute firewall between the business side and the news side, and I can remember that I never met anybody in the business side in three years at the Boston Glove.

    2017-01-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 112 - Chris Wallace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  10. Okay, they're guilty as charge. But here are some of the subjects that had not even been discussed after three hours of debating between Trump and Hillary Clinton. The Supreme Court, the Constitution, abortion, gun rights, immigration. I mean, it was Donald Trump's major issue. It hadn't been discussed in the debates. Debt, entitlement, Social Security, all of that. So I think that discussing those issues, not to say one side was right and one side was wrong, was a fair and balanced debate.

    2017-01-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 112 - Chris Wallace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  11. Well, I don't know. I think on our show, I think we do make. All right, let me give you an example of fair imbalance, and we'll go to the debate. When I moderated the third presidential debate, one of my thoughts after the first two debates was that I wanted a fair and balanced debate. Now, what did that mean? Was it right-wing? Was it pro-Trump? No, and I don't think anybody thought that. We got tremendous praise from both sides of the aisle and all kinds of liberal and conservative commentators.

    2017-01-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 112 - Chris Wallace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  12. I think we're presenting both sides to the story. No, because I think that implies, well, we're going to slant right because they slant left.

    2017-01-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 112 - Chris Wallace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  13. From 9 o'clock through seven o'clock, it's pretty even handed. And sometimes, you know, if we err on the side of giving the conservative, not advancing it or pushing it, but presenting the conservative point of view, I think that's a useful antidote to what the broadcast networks do where sometimes there's only one side of the argument.

    2017-01-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 112 - Chris Wallace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  14. Yeah, but actually there have been a lot of people on Fox who were very critical of, like Brit Hume and George Will of Trump during the entire campaign, Charles Krauthammer, and Krauthammer was Steve Hayes was killing all of them about that. But no, but I think you look at most of our coverage during the day.

    2017-01-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 112 - Chris Wallace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  15. Look, first of all, there's a big dividing line at Fox between news and opinion, and there's no question, and nobody is going to say anything different from eight o'clock till 11, primetime, when it was O'Reilly and Megan are now Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity. Those are opinion shows, and they certainly tilt. I think O'Reilly's a little bit more unpredictable, but Republicans, slant conservative. But we don't make any...

    2017-01-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 112 - Chris Wallace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  16. No, actually, I was during the campaign when the Pennsylvania primary and the senator Obama had said something and I went on fox and friends and said, which I felt that they had done two hours of Obama bashing is enough and they didn't like that. And I probably shouldn't have said it on the air. I think I should have and would have said it behind the scenes. Sure, I've been critical of some of the coverage. I'm critical of some of the coverage of the broadcast networks too. I look at the way that they covered this campaign, the way they've covered other things, some of the stuff during the Obama administration and before.

    2017-01-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 112 - Chris Wallace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  17. Yeah, I know exactly. Well, you have to fight off the Velociraptors to get it. But the television news business, and this is really interesting. Politics, Fox News got bigger audiences on election night, got bigger audiences for the Republican Convention than NBC did. You know, frankly, whether it's NBC or MSNBC or CNN, I don't know how you could understand what was going on in a campaign if you just watched one of the major broadcast networks. You watch a show like Brett Bears Special Report 6 o'clock a full hour on policy and politics and with in-depth coverage of the campaigns, there's nothing to compare with that on the three broadcast networks.

    2017-01-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 112 - Chris Wallace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  18. Yeah. So, I mean, I love newspapers and I still get, my kids think I'm nuts. I get a little bit of frisson of excitement every morning when I open my front door, go out on my step, and get my newspaper and open it up and read it. And people say, well, gosh, you should read it on one note.

    2017-01-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 112 - Chris Wallace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  19. Which is sort of the dog. When I really started in 19, well, I guess in TV news 1972, where the newspaper is 69, it's completely different. It's completely different because it was then a very... Pyramid like hierarchy. You worked at a local station or a local newspaper and then depending which it was, then you moved up to a bigger. And in the case of networks, if you went from a local affiliate, I went from WBBM in Chicago to WNBC in New York to then working at a network. And, you know, there were just three networks and maybe a half dozen national newspapers. And once you reach them and once you got a good job in one of them, you were at the top of the heap. Well, it's completely different now, particularly, well, on both sides, it's completely different on the newspaper side because newspapers are in real trouble. And obviously a lot of them. Sadly.

    2017-01-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 112 - Chris Wallace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  20. They thought he was when they put him on the court of appeals. Right. Well, yeah, but those are different. And that wouldn't be the first time a court of appeals judge didn't make it to the Supreme Court. But I'm saying, you know, I think they should have considered that. On the flip side of that, though, David, I think you'd agree When Barack Obama came, I think on the first day, a half dozen of his cabinet nominees were approved, and within the first week, almost all of them were approved. And now you've got Democrats talking about long delays in the hearings to confirm them, and that people aren't going to be, you know, he's going to be sitting around Trump around an empty cabinet table till March. I don't think that's good, and that's something that actually the Republicans did pretty well in 2009.

    2017-01-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 112 - Chris Wallace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  21. I agree with you, but let's flip that around. And I agree. I happen to think the Republicans were wrong not to consider Merrick Garland on the merits, and if it had turned out that he seemed to be a solid candidate as he...

    2017-01-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 112 - Chris Wallace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  22. But with everything Right. But what I'm saying is you're exactly right. The Republicans very quickly, if they repeal it, they're going to own it. And if they start taking away the good parts of Obamacare, they're going to pay a huge political price on it.

    2017-01-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 112 - Chris Wallace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  23. I completely agree with you on that, and I think that as President Trump said in a tweet this week, we've got to be careful not to let the Democrats off the hawk in owning it because it would

    2017-01-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 112 - Chris Wallace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  24. I run with whatever they do. I mean, and there's, I know, and we can get really into the weeds and talk about high-risk pools or whatever, but there's no way politically, and frankly, in terms of its merits, that they're going to be able to do away with pre-existing conditions.

    2017-01-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 112 - Chris Wallace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  25. Because, well, no, I didn't say you shouldn't move forward in the healthcare. I'm just saying how he should have done it. Because here's what you've got now is because he did it in a party line vote, because it became such a political issue, now you've got the possibility and that there was no bipartisan buy-in, and it was, you know, for eight years it went to the Supreme Court twice. It was always controversial. Now you've got the possibility that it's going to be largely undone as a political issue, which I think is terribly sad, the idea. I mean, look. Everybody wants people to have healthcare and the idea, you can argue about the effectiveness of Obamacare, but 20 million more people have health coverage than did before. And that's one of the things that I ask Republicans throughout the whole campaign. It's easy to say repeal, but what are you going to do for the 20 million people?

    2017-01-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 112 - Chris Wallace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  26. I think you always have to govern like you have a mandate. I know George W. Bush did that in 2001. That doesn't mean that you, I mean, look.

    2017-01-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 112 - Chris Wallace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  27. But even if it hadn't been as democratic to get buy-in from Democrats, it seems to me would have been very helpful. And then there's Obamacare, which ended up being a strict party line vote. And again, I wonder, you know, I don't have to tell you because you guys were using it as a talking point. A lot of the healthcare reform started under John Chafee. It was a Republican idea. I just can't.

    2017-01-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 112 - Chris Wallace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  28. Right. You had a year for that. And during that year, you basically took the stimulus package, which could have been a very bipartisan effort and told Eric Hanter, look, we won, elections have consequences, you, meaning Obama. And also basically turned over the stimulus package to Nancy Pelosi and the committee chairman who put a lot of pent-up social programs and things that weren't going to particularly stimulate the economy. I think that was a missed opportunity. I think if there had been a much more bipartisan effort and if it included more tax cuts, even if it hadn't been... A third of it.

    2017-01-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 112 - Chris Wallace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  29. I don't think it's true. Here's the only point I would make with regard to this. You know, I know you guys like to point to the McConnell statement, but that wasn't until, as I remember.

    2017-01-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 112 - Chris Wallace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  30. Barack Obama didn't make more of an effort, particularly in the first year or two when he did have a tremendous wave of support, and maybe even if he didn't need it because he had the veto proof majority the first year and all of that, why he didn't make more of an effort to get Republican support?

    2017-01-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 112 - Chris Wallace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  31. No, absolutely. And he was the first to say it. As you say, he had been the governor of California for eight years with Democratic majorities in the legislature. Forgive me, throw this back at you as a question. Reagan was very successful, and to a certain degree he had to because he, I think, always had Democratic majorities in the House, not in the Senate, at working with Democrats and peeling off Democrats, conservative Democrats, the Bole Weevil Democrats, from Tip O'Neill and using them with a Republican minority to pass legislation in the House, as I say, over Tip O'Neill. And I wonder, I've often wondered why...

    2017-01-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 112 - Chris Wallace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  32. Reporter should have towards presidents. When you were overseas covering Ronald Reagan and he was on the world stage, whether it was with Gorbachev or in China, with Deng Xiaoping, you felt some pride. He carried himself like a president, and he made you kind of proud. To quote the song, to be an American.

    2017-01-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 112 - Chris Wallace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  33. Yeah, but he was perfectly pleasant and he could banter, and he genuinely liked the press and genuinely respected the idea that we had a role to play. In fact, one of the advantages we had, I remember covering the general election, is that he was, this was a guy who had loved for all these years to say what he thought about things. And oftentimes people wouldn't pay as much attention to him even as governor of California as he wanted. Well, now here he was with a trail of reporters covering him and asking him questions all the time. And you ask him a question. He'd answer the question much to the horror of his aides because he was just used to the idea of wanting to spot off and say what he wanted to say. So he was great copy. And there was also, particularly in the public stage as president, a larger than life quality. And I have to say as a reporter for NBC, you know, I like to think I had this skeptical adversarial relationship.

    2017-01-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 112 - Chris Wallace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  34. He was a. It's an interesting question. I'm thinking of him as a candidate and then as a president. I always got along just fine with him. He wasn't going to sit there and unburden himself of his deepest, most philosophical.

    2017-01-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 112 - Chris Wallace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  35. Well, I will say the nineteen eighty campaign, and I didn't cover you guys, so this isn't in any way casting aspersions on you or President Obama. But the 1980 campaign was the best campaign I ever covered. It was the best run campaign. It was the most disciplined in terms of having a coherent, I didn't cover the primaries, I covered the general election from Labor Day in terms of having a coherent message. It did have a message. There was a coherent set of policies that Reagan embodied and was pushing. And you can argue whether they were the right ones or the wrong ones, but it is what he put into effect. Smaller government, lower taxes, less regulation, more robust defense, harder line in terms of Russia and the Cold War, and he brought that to pass.

    2017-01-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 112 - Chris Wallace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  36. Would like to do away with. Right, but the idea that people who have contributed to the party, I don't mean contributed financially, contributed in terms of their efforts, their product, their production, their involvement with the party over years to have the stakeholders to have some stake in the process might not be an altogether.

    2017-01-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 112 - Chris Wallace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  37. But, you know, some mixture of primaries and also, I mean, to some degree, maybe the Democrats have it with the super delegates, which the Republicans didn't this time.

    2017-01-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 112 - Chris Wallace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  38. FDR and a lot of people. No, it's. You wonder it's a terrible thing to say about too much democracy can be a bad thing. But sometimes I think it can. And you'd like to have a blend. You certainly don't want to go back to where it's just six guys in a room who are picking Warren Hart.

    2017-01-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 112 - Chris Wallace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  39. But let me just interrupt to say I completely agree with you. I think that, one, it was a fascinating education, and you're exactly right, because these folks were in charge and there was nothing you really could do to them. And so they were often happy to brag about their arrangements. And as far as how it worked for the citizens of Chicago, I'm sure you can get the better government association in Chicago who would tell you about all the terrible things. There are plenty of times as a homeowner here in Washington, D.C. when I wish I had a ward committeeman or a precinct captain who could get my garbage picked up or my street swept during a big snowstorm. There were compensating values.

    2017-01-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 112 - Chris Wallace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  40. Well, I remember being fortunate and feeling that it was the end of an era. I left before he passed away, but I was there for the trial of Tom Kane, who was his top guy in the city theater. on corruption charges. That's, of course, when then U.S. prosecutor Jim Thompson, later Governor Thompson, was taking apart the Democratic machine piece by piece. And, you know, you had the sense that it was almost like you were covering a time capsule and that at some point years later you'd be able to say, I covered the Chicago machine of Richard Day Daley. And I do feel that, that it was just an extraordinary look at a different kind of politics that we don't, I don't know that we see today anywhere where you had this complete commingling of the Cook County Democratic Party and the government of the city of Chicago where politics and government was politics.

    2017-01-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 112 - Chris Wallace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  41. Chic Then I went to Chicago. My next job was four years, and then I went to Chicago and worked for WBBM, and I was the political reporter for them and covered the, you know, people talk about Richie Daly. You and I know the mayor, Richard J. Daly. And I covered him for a couple of years.

    2017-01-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 112 - Chris Wallace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  42. Within a couple of months was the, and this talk about a great assignment, I was the City Hall reporter for the Boston Globe, covering Kevin White, who was then the mayor of Boston, and Louise Day Hicks, who was on the city council and one of the champions of anti-bussing.

    2017-01-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 112 - Chris Wallace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  43. Well, not until I was out of college. I actually applied to law school, got into Yale Law School, was about a week away from starting there. I would have been in Hillary Clinton's class. Maybe she would have married me and I would have been president. But I just... Less reporting than just not wanting to spend another three years in school. And I went around looking for jobs. And this gets back to an earlier point, wanted to start newspapers, not in TV because I thought it was better training, better reporting, better writing. I know that's where you started, and got a job at the Boston Globe, and this gets, as I say, back to what we were talking about earlier, was very happy to hear a couple of months later that when I applied and got the job, they had no idea who my dad was. That really pleased me.

    2017-01-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 112 - Chris Wallace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  44. Absolutely. No. And that certainly is a common strain from Goldwater through a lot of Republican and conservative politicians into Trump, although I will say that your former boss has been known to take a whack or two at the media, particularly Fox News.

    2017-01-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 112 - Chris Wallace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  45. Well, I've seen it throughout my whole career. The first, as a grown-up, the first political campaign I really covered was Ronald Reagan in 1980. I covered him in the general election, and then I covered six years of him in the White House. And you absolutely could see the ideological strains that had really come to not fruition because he got clobbered, of course, by Lyndon Johnson in the 64 election, but came to prominence in 64 under Goldwater, reached fruition under Ronald Reagan. I think less, certainly some of it, but less of it now because I don't think of Trump as a particularly ideological figure or a particularly conventionally or strictly conservative figure.

    2017-01-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 112 - Chris Wallace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  46. And the drama there And Dwight Eisenhower talking about sensation seeking columnists and commentators, and people started shaking the platform of the foundation of the anchor booth that we were in. So, yeah, and I remember Barry Goldwater's moderation in the pursuit of liberty is no virtue and extremism, whatever.

    2017-01-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 112 - Chris Wallace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  47. She was my first girlfriend, Nancy Cronkite, who I hasten to add was a lot better looking than Walter and didn't have a mustache. And I have to say, people at ZBS were tickled tank. I remember answering the phone in the newsroom one day, and one of the CBS reporters said, is this Nancy Cronkite's boyfriend? And I laughed. And I said, you guys are all enjoying this. Well, because at the time, my father was anchoring the CBS Morning News, and Cronkite was anchoring the CBS evening news. And they said it was like the merging of two duchies or something like that

    2017-01-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 112 - Chris Wallace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  48. Anchor booth with Walter Cronkite and Eric Severide at the Goldwater Convention at the Cow Palace outside San Francisco in 1964, and a little piece of trivia is who was the only person that was in both anchor booths, both the Democratic Atlantic City, Linda Johnson, and the Republican. 16 year old Chris Wallace, because if you may remember, between those conventions, Walter Croncock got fired because the ratings were low and Bill Paley kicked him out, so they put this combination of Roger Mudd, who was in his 30s and Robert Trout, who was in his 70s together. And the only person who survived from one anchor booth to the next was me.

    2017-01-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 112 - Chris Wallace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  49. That's all true High class problem, right? Yes, exactly. So in those days, and they don't do it today and they should, they used to, you know, is it blatant nepotism? Yes, but what they used to do is the networks, and it wasn't just CBS. If you were the son or daughter of a top correspondent or an executive, you would get a job working at the conventions. And the thought being, one, these people were probably pretty bright and could help. And secondly, because they'd get an insight into what their mom or dad did all the time. So I was working there with the son of Richard C. Hodlet and with Walter Cronkheid's daughter. And I'll get to that story in a moment. Yes. But I was the gopher, and this was much more because of my stepfather was the head of the CBS election unit than because of my father. I was the gopher, gopher coffees, gopher, pencils, et cetera, in the

    2017-01-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 112 - Chris Wallace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  50. I almost feel like I have to carry the banner for him. I want people to remember him and where before if somebody said something about your father or even called me Mike and I might get a little bit ruffled by it, now my reaction is I'm glad you're still think of him and you still remember him.

    2017-01-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 112 - Chris Wallace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source