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Chris Wallace

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  1. “But you know, it's interesting. I'd say two things about it: that at some point, and it took a while, maybe it was in my 40s, that I finally came to this conclusion and I said, you know what? I am never going to be Mike Wallace. But then I said, neither is anybody else. And there's a heck of a lot of room to have a great career and accomplish a lot. And, you know, and not have it be in comparison to anybody. The other thing I would say, and I find this really quite surprising, because it was always there. Is that after my father died, and particularly now that he's been gone almost five years, five years in April?”

    2017-01-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 112 - Chris Wallace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  2. “The same business everybody kind of knows you. I can tell you this is a long period of time where people, even people that you've worked with a long time will suddenly say, Mike instead of Chris, and that always cuts a little bit because you think, well, gosh, I've been working this with this guy for five years and he still thinks of me as Mike Wallace's son subconsciously.”

    2017-01-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 112 - Chris Wallace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  3. “It's a high class problem. Rich is the wrong thing. So, you know, to sit there and say, woe is me. I was the son of Mike Wallace. I'm not sure I'm going to get a lot of sympathy from people out there. But to anybody who's been in that position, and it doesn't have to do just with politics or show bizarre, listen, it could do with anything. My guess is, you know, if you were the town, the son of the big lawyer in town or the guy who owned the hardware store in town, it would be true to be the son of or the daughter of is its own, as I say, not oppressive, but it's a burden. And you're exactly right. People question why you're there, whether you got it because of your connections or because of your talent. You know, I suppose it's worse if your father is a public figure as opposed to my hardware salesman example because everybody knows him and to the degree that you're in a”

    2017-01-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 112 - Chris Wallace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  4. “I want to put this in context because let's be honest, they talk about problems being like rich people's problems, not problems of life and death. And this is very much”

    2017-01-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 112 - Chris Wallace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  5. “Absolutely. I'll tell you a quick interesting story about that. There was a show that Bob Costas used to do called Later, and it was on really in the middle of the night. It was on after Johnny Carson and after whatever followed Johnny Carson. It was on about two in the morning. And my father went on it and Costas started asking him about depression. And my father said, you know, it's really important that we talk about this now at 2 in the morning, which is when people were watching it, not when it was taped, because he said, if you're suffering from depression, one of the key things is you can't sleep and you're up in the middle of the night and you're feeling alone in adrift and they're probably listening to us and watching us right now who are suffering from this. And so it's important that we talk to them.”

    2017-01-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 112 - Chris Wallace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  6. “By sort of later in his career, I think he was as proud of the role he had in the early eighties in destigmatizing depression as anything he did. You know, here was this big, tough, capable guy Mike Wallace, and he was suffering. And this was back in the 80s when depression wasn't as widely known and as accepted as it was. There was a stigma about it, and he was very public and one of the first public figures to go public about it. And I think he felt very proud of that.”

    2017-01-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 112 - Chris Wallace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  7. “Sure. Yeah. I mean, look, it's a special relationship, and in a business like this, which is very competitive and sharp elbows and everybody's got an agenda, we would critique each other, and we both knew that the only thing that the other one wanted was to make you as good as you could possibly be. So sure, we talked about that. It's funny you mention this about depression. I was talking with my wife just last night and something came up about depression. I say, well, fortunately that was one thing I have not inherited from my father. But he did suffer from depression.”

    2017-01-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 112 - Chris Wallace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  8. “I split up from my first wife. And my stepfather had just died, and I think my father always felt he was a little bit excess baggage with my father, which I with my stepfather. I didn't feel that way, but I think he did. But in any case, I was kind of adrift divorced. Well, if there's one thing my father knew, it was divorced because he was married four times. And so for about, I was working in a primetime magazine traveling a little bit of the country in the world, and so was he, obviously, on 60 Minutes. And for, I would say, two to three months, every night, David, every night he would find where I was and call me to say, how you doing? That really cemented it. And I would say for the last 20 to 25 years of his life, we were best friends”

    2017-01-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 112 - Chris Wallace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  9. “And he was a big fat. He was almost like Jackie Gleason. He was a big, heavy set, loud talking guy, and it was the big watering hole for a sports figure. Yeah, right. And my father knew that I loved sports. So really more to see the sports figures than to see him. He didn't invite me out to Tuchore and I would happily go because he was famous, I can remember meeting Frank Gifford and Howard Coll and Eddie Arcaro, who was a famous jockey that I'm sure none of your listeners know who he was. But in any case, in addition to all of that and a good meal, we got to know each other. And it slowly developed over time. Most interesting part of the story is so now fast forward to I'm in my 40s.”

    2017-01-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 112 - Chris Wallace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  10. “That's true. I was about 14 years old and my brother, Peter, was five years older than me. He was in between his sophomore and junior years at Yale. He went off for the summer to Europe, as college kids do. in just a horrible, tragic accident was climbing up a mountain in Greece. Mountain is a kind of an overstatement, but it was big enough, slipped and fell, and died. And I think at that point, as I say, I was 14, my father and I both felt we ought to get to know each other. And we did. And he used to take me because it wasn't that I disliked him, it's that I didn't know him. And it was a little bit like being forced to spend time with an uncle that you don't really know, but, you know, your folks say you're supposed to go see. So he would take me. There was this great watering hole in New York City called Tutshore.”

    2017-01-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 112 - Chris Wallace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  11. “No, not really, but just as an acute story. So my mother and father met at the University of Michigan. He graduated, she quit after her sophomore year, and he went to work for a radio station in Grand Rapids, Michigan. And as one of the things, he had been a disc jockey and an announcer and things like that. He'd never done any journalism. He had to start interviewing people. The first questions that Mike Wallace ever wrote to ask people were written by my mother because he didn't know how to write a question. Oh, is that right? Yeah, it's true.”

    2017-01-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 112 - Chris Wallace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  12. “And my mother, who had been divorced for a number of years, is no scandal here from my father, was watching on TV and saw this dreamy man as she described him who was reporting from Stevenson headquarters, black and white TV. This was back in 1952. And she said, well, so Chris, let's go and see the excitement. So I got on my tricycle, and she walked over, and I didn't know this until years later, put on a somewhat revealing sundress. And we went around the block, and there was Bill Leonard, who was a correspondent for CBS News, ended up becoming the president of CBS News. And in fact, my father's boss. So he was really the one I grew up with. I was nine when they got married, and he was really the most influential figure in my life and career.”

    2017-01-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 112 - Chris Wallace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  13. “But really close, no, not probably until I was a teenager. But actually Chicago figures into this because when I was about four years old, the Democratic Convention, 1952, the Adley Stevenson Convention was being held in Chicago, and I lived on North State Parkway. And Adelaide Stevenson, the Democratic nominee, was staying in the McCormick mansion right across the block”

    2017-01-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 112 - Chris Wallace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  14. “Well, we should tell that story. So I give every person, not you, everybody I interview, I always at the very end because we only have 12 minutes and I always say, or 10 minutes, I always say, now look, try to keep your answers short so we can cover more territory. And I had said that to you so often, and you're the only person in 13 years of this show who has ever done it before I was going to get it out one day. You said, now, Chris, keep your question short. Maybe I'll cover more territory. And I laughed the way you did.”

    2017-01-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 112 - Chris Wallace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source