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Christian van der Henst

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  1. “Going to need so much more like a gentic frameworks, and we're going to need to rebuild the entire internet to talk to agents. And it's going to be a lot of work. Do you think companies are moving quickly enough to actually create the hooks for agents to do more commerce or are they kind of jacking their feet? Because Amazon got all mad about perplexities agent.”

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  2. “Yeah, and you can look it up, Alex, and show the picture. That also trended. And so the idea is to say, well, if you wanted an assistant to schedule your meetings, if you wanted an assistant to do research, why don't we just jump the fence? Let's just go totally off the reservation. We'll go AWAL. And let's see if it can run a small business. Eventually, it should be. If it can write code, it should be able to run a small business and it should be able to run a small business and do things like you're talking about. I know this is a little bit of a stunt, Alex, but it should be able to go and procure items for the vending machine. But one example, and it's going to make mistakes, but it's kind of fun to be here on the cutting edge.”

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  3. “On the milk. There's a temperature gauge in the milk. We know the number of ounces of milk that's left. We know more about this milk. You would have to hire three baristas to check in on this milk 24 hours a day to have the same function. They didn't want to hear it. And it was like a really serious headwind. But I applaud what you're doing, Christian. It's very cool. And I think we're going to see there was a cafe, I think in Stockholm. Yes, yes. And online.”

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  4. “And that means you need to look at jobs and say, should this human really be here selling candy bars at the airport or dispensing coffee? And we have one cafe X that's done quite well at SFO. Very difficult business. But you're right. Vending machine business. I'd say there were two really headwinds that this company had to deal with. regulations in San Francisco seven, eight years ago when they started. They were like, well, you need to have a human. And it's like, why do we need to have a human? They're like milk. And like they literally pulled it out of a hat. They're like, you have fresh milk. They're like, yeah, we have fresh milk. They're like vending machines can't have fresh milk. And we're like, why not? What? And they're like, you have to use powdered milk. And we're like, why do we have to use powdered milk? Here's fresh milk. It's changed every night. Like if the expiration date on milk is for 10 days, we change it every night. There's no way for you to say, yeah, but what if something goes wrong with the milk? And it's like, well, we have two cameras on the milk. Like there's cameras.”

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  5. “It's a great, fun proof of concept. These vending machines are an interesting cultural phenomenon in other countries, namely Japan. And so if you go to Japan, you'll find an infinite number of these. And the truth is with human labor, which we don't have a lot of here in the United States, we are at record low unemployment. And with wages increasing or a lot of discussion of ROCON is $25 an hour bill, he's trying to raise the minimum wage in California $25 an hour, which would make it the highest in the world. I think Zurich, New Zealand, Australia are the top three. And those are 20 bucks an hour in their currency of $15, $16, $17 in our currency.”

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  6. “So, what does it do in terms of, we can all imagine an AI interface for a vending machine? It would talk to you, it would greet you and say, what can I get you? And just, you know, I guess be a little more cordial than picking before. You're saying in the background it registered the business and it has access to the bank account. So what functions, and most people are saying, hey, don't give your agent any of these kind of rights. The goal is to constrain the agent, put it in a harness, put it into a permission-based. Existence You're saying you are letting it run the entire business and you gave it some instructions of what running a vending machine business is.”

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  7. “Think that picture, I think, describes it. You have one of those large vending machines. See these in the airports, these vending machines are not for candy bars necessarily You can put in them headphones or people put in. Battery packs, or maybe aspirin, or whatever you might need when you're going through an airport. But what I see here is in addition to the vending machine, on the left is a giant. Flat screen TV turned on its side in a vertical fashion. And there is an animated person, in this case a blonde young female who is acting as an agent who I assume is powered by OpenClaw, who talks to you.”

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  8. “Man Christian van der Henst. He built something that I think is really incredible. Now, Jason, you have told us. Hear a twist that you're tired Of open claw in a box. You don't want to hear any more open claw in a box Did I went out and I found Open claw in a box I could find”

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  9. “Docket. I'm on the road, and we'll talk about the next game at the end of the show in off duty. But let's get started, Alex. What do we have on the docket today?”

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  10. “But it also hired apparently one of the people who works in the cafe. I think the next step in that's going to be one person companies. And then eventually one agent companies, you will report to work and talk to an agent at some point this weekend startups is brought to you by pilot. Focus on your product. Let pilot handle your bookkeeping. Pilot provides the most reliable accounting, CFO, and tax services for startups and small businesses. Head to pilot.com slash twist and get twelve hundred dollars off your first year. Shopify. Turn those what ifs into sales with the e-commerce platform powering millions of businesses. Sign up for your $1 per month trial today at shopify dot com slash twist and grasshopperbank. Time is money. Don't waste either. Go to grasshopper.bank slash twist and get an exclusive five hundred dollars cash bonus just for opening an account. All right, everybody, welcome back to this weekend startup. I'm your host, Jason Calcanis. He's Alex Wilhelm.”

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