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Claire Hughes Johnson

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  1. “Right. And I think, I mean, the short answer is you got to ask some stuff as a question often to stop yourself from making a big judgment. But Tim, yeah, I think what I pick up in you and from listening to you is you're willing to take some risks. And so I think this is really about risk taking and saying something that you're not sure you should say, but.”

    2024-08-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #762: Coach George Raveling and Claire Hughes Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  2. “Fred was really pushing us as a group. He's like, how do you? He'd say, detoxify, can't do his accent. Detoxify the left-hand column and actually say it. Like, say the thing. And then he'd go through these exercises. And so this was sort of a light bulb for me, which is like really about giving hard feedback. At that time, I was in management training. But what I've come to learn is not only is say the thing you think you cannot say, certainly about giving feedback and being more direct in your management conversations. But I actually think it's a really tremendous leadership skill, which is to get in a room and I don't care if I'm in charge of the team or I'm just a person on a board. I'm on some boards now. And we're sitting there and there's often an unspoken thing. You've been there. You've been in the like, Tim, you seem like someone who would actually put the thing on the table. Like I think you and I are.”

    2024-08-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #762: Coach George Raveling and Claire Hughes Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  3. “Maturing and establishing, especially on the sort of investment in management and organizational skills. But Cheryl, of course, ahead of her time on things like that was making the investment and had the budget that was a benefit of Google as we certainly had nice margins, Tim, that we could spend on management training. And so we did this boot camp with excellent. But one of the things that Fred has is he has some really great frameworks. He has one about being a victim versus being a player. But one of his frameworks is how do you take what he calls your left-hand column? So you and I are talking right now. Say we're having a conversation in the workplace. Our brain is always operating in the background. And it's often thinking some things about the conversation, about the person, about sometimes it's thinking, what should I be doing? What do I want to have for dinner? But we have this ongoing monologue in our brain. And the left-hand column with respect to, look, it's about our conversation.”

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  4. “I joined Google in May of 2004 and it was maybe around 1800 people. I mean, there's a lot of contractors, I'm going to be honest, but I think in terms of full-time employees, and it was, by the way, for me, the biggest place I'd ever worked. So I was like, this place is huge. And then just fast forward, I left Google in 2014 and it was like almost 60,000 people. So whoa. I would say that the excellent engagement with Cheryl and her team was probably I joined right before the IPO, which was in August of 2004. And then in 05, I would say is when we had. So, you know, Google actually was doubling every year. Probably 3 to 4,000, you know, but Google had gone public, but was still.”

    2024-08-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #762: Coach George Raveling and Claire Hughes Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  5. “Lot of companies at the stage Google was at were investing two, three days of management, training, and leadership training. Like we all went through these 360 assessments, they gave us these report outs, and then they put us in these boot camps with Fred and his team.”

    2024-08-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #762: Coach George Raveling and Claire Hughes Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  6. “And he had some sort of life revelation that he was not living with the true dimensions of his being and his values. And what he needed to do was stop teaching accounting and become a leadership coach and advisor. And he wrote this book, Conscious Business, which I recommend. I don't recommend a lot of business books. I'm just going to be perfectly honest him. I often read the beginning of business books and then I never finish them. But conscious business, I have read all of it. And he formed this firm called Axelant at the time that Cheryl Sandberg hired at Google. So Fred and his team come in to start working with Cheryl Sandberg's organization of which I was a member of management and then leadership, but initially I was sort of one of the senior managers, like not anyone, particularly special. And to share with great credit, because not a lot of”

    2024-08-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #762: Coach George Raveling and Claire Hughes Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  7. “Because no one asked me about now. And it's a lesson that I've learned and I think there's a journey that people go on with this lesson so we can share about that. But I've certainly gone on the journey. And the person who was probably one of the most pivotal to me stepping from square one, which is we often just don't say the thing. We just don't say it, was Fred Kaufman. And Fred was, I'm going to get some of this wrong, but as I understand it, he was an accountant by training. He became a professor at MIT. He was teaching accounting. He grew up in Argentina, by the way. I don't think he went to Brown.”

    2024-08-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #762: Coach George Raveling and Claire Hughes Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  8. “Laid out, and I had to think about this for myself for operating principles for me as a leader and a person. And I shared them with others because I think actually everybody should authentically come up with their own. But this one was the second one, the first one about self-awareness is the one I probably talk about the most with everyone and myself. But the second one is say the thing you think you cannot say. That's why I say I.”

    2024-08-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #762: Coach George Raveling and Claire Hughes Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT