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“Oh, listen, it's been a blast, and these kids, when I used to get depressed in Washington, I would ask my staff to bring me in the list of resumes of young people who had applied to work in the Senate. And it would always lift my spirits. And being here, you can't be pessimistic about the future if you spend a lot of time around these bright young people that are thinking things through and care deeply. It's been great for me. It's a little bit, I don't really have a hangover from the lost, but if I did...”
2019-02-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 311 - Claire McCaskill · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, and I think people forget that McConnell doesn't look at this as a U.S. poll of how popular. He's looking state by state. He's looking at the states where he wants to hold on to seats, and he's making a calculation clearly just to determine whether or not he can hold on to 51 seats in the United States Senate.”
2019-02-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 311 - Claire McCaskill · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“He looked at the two paths. One, the government shut down, not good for my members to get reelected. Or I can give a pass to the senators that are in tough states. They can vote to disapprove of what he's done, to cleanse themselves. The Tom Tillises, the Joni Ernst, the Corey Gardeners, all the ones that are in tough states, and we'll live to fight another day and I can hold on to the majority in 2020. That's how his mind works. It's all about protecting his members.”
2019-02-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 311 - Claire McCaskill · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It was, but he was thinking of the alternative. The alternative is the government shut down again, and then their poll numbers continue to drop. And that was a disease everyone was suffering from, not just the president, the entire Republican Party was suffering. So if his goal is making sure he holds on to the majority in the Senate,”
2019-02-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 311 - Claire McCaskill · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, and, you know, but they've got to really know. They all know that they're saying that the Congress doesn't have the power to appropriate. Because that's really what this is. He's just taking the power to appropriate away from Congress.”
2019-02-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 311 - Claire McCaskill · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Not possible, not probable Possible, not probable. But boy, wouldn't that be a profile encouragement? Wouldn't that be a moment in history if it happened?”
2019-02-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 311 - Claire McCaskill · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Disapproval of his national emergency. The resolution of disapproval that the Senate must vote on. It cannot be plainer than the no's on someone's face that this is an unprecedented breach of constitutional norms. So all these guys, including my opponent who ran as a constitutional conservative, if they actually say it's okay for what he did, then I think the Congress has probably taken a blow that will take many years to recover from.”
2019-02-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 311 - Claire McCaskill · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Does they are trapped? Some of them have been more courageous than others. Some of them have been willing to this vote coming up. This will be an incredibly big vote in history because it couldn't be clear that you...”
2019-02-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 311 - Claire McCaskill · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It was clear in the conversation about this topic that he had no idea what he was talking about. And everybody in the room knew it. And it really did feel like the emperor wears no clothes. You know, this is one of those moments where his staff was all sitting around going, uh-oh, he shouldn't be talking because he clearly doesn't know what he's talking about. That's scary to people that that's the commander-in-chief. That's scary.”
2019-02-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 311 - Claire McCaskill · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Very candid very candid. And I will just tell you that no less than a dozen Republicans have expressed to me everything from disbelief to sheer panic over this president and how he's behaved in the Oval Office. I think one of the themes that runs through their comments to me is how unsettling it is that he knows nothing about the policy. He really does shoot from the hip and has no intellectual curiosity about learning about the policy. I mean, I had one senator say to me,”
2019-02-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 311 - Claire McCaskill · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I was a shiny bright thing once upon a time back in the 80s. So I'm fine and I'm happy. And do I miss being able to cross-examine people in hearings and really getting it getting the point across I loved oversight hearings. I loved doing that. Yeah, I miss that. I miss my friends. I miss the collegiality of it. And by the way, I did have lots of friends that were Republicans. I miss both kinds. My Democratic friends and my Republican friends. But overall, this is good.”
2019-02-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 311 - Claire McCaskill · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I am shocked how happy I am. I was expecting much more of a hangover. I feel exhilarated by the freedom. I feel exhilarated. I'm very fortunate. And then I've got a strong close family. And opportunities are knocking on my door that are exciting and fun. So I feel really good about this next chapter. I feel good about trying to help others. I feel good about getting to work on some of the issues I really care about that I can actually work on outside of being a member of the government. You know, Josh Holly reminded Missourians every 10 minutes. I've been doing it for 38 years. I was AOC's age when I got elected.”
2019-02-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 311 - Claire McCaskill · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Compromise is way out of fashion. But these things have history has many examples of where things have gotten very polarized, and then there has been a coming together. It's going to take a good leader. And I hope that the president we elect in 2020, which is not Donald Trump, will be that kind of leader.”
2019-02-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 311 - Claire McCaskill · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Correct. Yeah. So I think we're going to have to figure out how to fix that. I think it may have to be a constitutional amendment so that we can behave like other countries do around elections where it is not he who has the most money has the ability to distort to the point that people just throw up their hands and don't know what to believe. I think that's a really important part of it. And I think the pendulum will swing back to some appreciation for those people who are working trying to get things done and not afraid of compromising. We are right now at a point where”
2019-02-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 311 - Claire McCaskill · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, Citizens United would help if we got rid of that. That's Mitch McConnell's love letter to the country. He cares more about all kinds of dirty money, unlimited money, and politics, and he cares really, I think, about any other issue. I mean, it's been his life's work. Right.”
2019-02-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 311 - Claire McCaskill · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, no question. And they're right. I mean, the lobbyists had much more say about that tax bill than any duly elected member of Congress that was a Democrat.”
2019-02-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 311 - Claire McCaskill · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I went up to Ron Wyden, who's the ranking Democrat on the finance committee. I'm on the finance committee. I have this list. I said, Ron, this is the list that they're going to offer. He said, where did you get that? I said, well, K Street has it. So they were talking to K Street about what was going to be the final list of a minute. Yeah, the K Street's the lobbyist. They were consulting with the lobbyists on the final list of amendments.”
2019-02-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 311 - Claire McCaskill · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Correct And, you know, hey, every once in a while, the committees are working like they should, but not on any of the big stuff. It is either being blocked or it's being written by the leader in consultation. I mean, I know this on the tax bill. This is a true story. We are debating the tax bill, and there's going to be a manager's package. And a friend on K Street call my office and gave us the list of amendments.”
2019-02-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 311 - Claire McCaskill · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“When he was an obstructionist, Harry would fill the tree, which is a technical term for putting amendments already on a bill so nobody can offer an amendment. So we began down the path of having fewer amendments when Mitch was being an obstructionist. Well, then now the roles are reversed and Mitch has gone down that path with a vengeance. Literally, we're not debating and amending legislation anymore. The power has gotten so concentrated in the leader's office. It's made it much more like the House. The tax bill was written in Mitch McConnell's office. The bill overturned Obamacare was written in the leader's office. There is a handful of staffers on McConnell's staff that are basically in charge. And it is the committee process is not what it used to be.”
2019-02-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 311 - Claire McCaskill · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah. Yeah. What's happened is, and this door swings both ways. I mean, we did some of it. There was a little bit of, you know, which came first, the chicken or the egg, because Mitch was being an obstructionist to Harry Reid, not letting people through, not letting nominees through Harry finally threw in the towel and said, you know, we're going to go to 51 on certain appointment on lower court judges and on the nominees for the cabinet.”
2019-02-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 311 - Claire McCaskill · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think it has gotten worse the first year I was in the Senate. I think I voted on 306 amendments. My last year in the Senate, I think I voted on 40.”
2019-02-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 311 - Claire McCaskill · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, they had billboards everywhere with Donald Trump's face, roses thrown in his path. I mean, it was an extravaganza of celebration of a guy that loves adulation. So they just adulated all over his, you know what? And it was like. So memorable to him that he was loved in Saudi Arabia. MBS did that, and it was strategic and frankly worked for him because now he is refusing to do what every United States Senator knows needs to be done and there need to be sanctions imposed on Saudi for what they did, what MBS did in murdering a journalist. He's going to let it go. He's just going to let it go. And once again, can you imagine what would have happened if that would have been a Democratic president? I mean, he would be, they would be impeaching him. They would be impeaching him for treason.”
2019-02-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 311 - Claire McCaskill · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And I think MBS is obviously a smart young man. He came over and made friends with Jared Kushner. And then he figured out very quickly what Donald Trump wanted. And I don't know if people remember, but that was Donald Trump's first foreign trip.”
2019-02-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 311 - Claire McCaskill · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And so the same thing with being friends with all these strong men. These are our enemies. He clearly doesn't get that part, and he believes this despot in North Korea who's a thug. He believes this thug in Russia over our own intelligence community, which by the way is almost all veterans. Just amazing to me”
2019-02-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 311 - Claire McCaskill · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I mean, I think of all the things that he has done. And I imagine what would have happened if Barack Obama had done those things. I mean, just Kanye West MFing in the Oval Office. Now, can you imagine how heads would have exploded if Kanye West was in the Oval Office when Barack Obama was president and did an MF live on television? I mean Sean Hannity's head would have exploded. He was like, oh, well, you know, he's different.”
2019-02-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 311 - Claire McCaskill · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think that there is a lot of, if you look at his business career, The Russians have been a part of it. And I think he didn't think he was going to win the presidency and he saw this run for the presidency maybe as a way to, because he was the nominee, that he could get close to Putin and then have his way in terms of doing deals in Russia. I think he was totally lying about that he had no business interests in Russia, never had. Obviously, that's the case. So I think a lot of this has to do with The fact that he'd never gotten a deal in Russia and wanted a deal in Russia. And then he got elected. And I think he is taken by these strong personalities. I mean, it's the weirdest thing to me that he has cozied up to our enemies.”
2019-02-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 311 - Claire McCaskill · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You know, this is nothing. And, you know, Adam Schiff will be saying, there's so much more. There's so much more we don't know. We need to know more. And, you know, the American people will probably split the difference, I'm guessing. And many of them will believe that. You know, clearly, if he's going to release it next week, it's hard for me to imagine that there's going to be an impeachable offense that will be contained in it, but we'll see, maybe.”
2019-02-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 311 - Claire McCaskill · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I knew you didn't have that figured out, so I thought I clue you in. I appreciate it. You know, Lindsay Graham will have righteous indignation about.”
2019-02-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 311 - Claire McCaskill · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, my God, no, you know, bless their hearts Missou is not going to be in the final four this year. Now, if we could get one of the Porter brothers back, but so far we've struck.”
2019-02-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 311 - Claire McCaskill · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I know, I know. But I mean, I really don't think my opinion of all the candidates is something that is at the top of everybody's list. And I really want to see, I mean, it's like asking me to fill out my bracket for next year's tournament, right? for 2020, not 2019. I mean, I could do a halfway decent job with my bracket right now for this year, but not for next year. So let's wait and see this time next year. Who has done well? Who has performed well? Who has wisted the pressure? Who has raised the money? Who does well in these debates in June? All of that matters.”
2019-02-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 311 - Claire McCaskill · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“About getting so far out there on some of these issues that they can be purloined with the socialism label to the extent that the president's going to clearly make that the meat. Well, whatever they say he's going to be.”
2019-02-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 311 - Claire McCaskill · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Right. There's no question. We're going to hear a lot about socialism. So I think whoever is our nominee better hit it head to head. And I hope that everyone realizes that Medicare for All sounds wonderful until you explain to people that means they have to give up their insurance that they love at their workplace and get whatever insurance the government says they can have. Now, that's going to feel that's going to make Obamacare look like a very light touch because all Obamacare said is, you know, we need you to buy insurance. And you must buy insurance. I shouldn't say we need you because it was a mandate. You had to buy it. And that was what was so unpopular was a government mandate. That's what made it so unpopular in many, many states in this country. So I do think that our candidates need to be careful about being”
2019-02-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 311 - Claire McCaskill · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, you know, I'm not disapproving of it. I'm just saying it's a fact that there are a number of candidates that are running hard to the left.”
2019-02-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 311 - Claire McCaskill · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Kirsten Gillib She's voted no on every single Trump nominee. I don't think she even bothered to look at bios. I think she just decided I'm against everything this president stands for. End of discussion. Every kind of nominee he's made.”
2019-02-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 311 - Claire McCaskill · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Exactly. Both. Both. And so I just think that this online, you know, no question Bernie has a loyal group of supporters who are used to giving him $10, $20, $30, and they believe in him. And they're showing up right now at the beginning of his announcement. But I don't think that means that he is going to dominate online fundraising. I think it will end up being a much more equal process between several frontrunners before it's all said and done.”
2019-02-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 311 - Claire McCaskill · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I'll predict that that record will be smashed time and time again in this campaign by maybe him, but also other candidates. It's a new day. You're looking at somebody who was frankly not the favorite of the online wing of our party in terms of the progressives. We did, and we had 280,000 donors. Our average contribution was 51 bucks, and we raised $40 million. Now, if somebody would have told me 20 years ago that that was going to happen, I would say, what are you smoking? That's not going to happen. But it did. And you look at Betto, $80 million.”
2019-02-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 311 - Claire McCaskill · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“To go all in. So I think this is going to be, and frankly, I think if I had to handicap anything, I would say I'd give a little bit of a nod to those candidates who've been through rough campaigns before. If you've not had millions of dollars of negative run against you ever, it feels awful when it happens. And knowing that feeling and knowing that you can fight through it and survive, I think that gives an advantage to a few of the candidates who've had tough campaigns.”
2019-02-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 311 - Claire McCaskill · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It is a lengthy tryout, and this election will be so much different than 2016 because one of the things that kills me when people say, well, if Bernie would have been nominated, he would have won. Well, there was a reason there was no negative on Bernie. The Republicans were fine with Bernie taking the nomination. We're not going to see that in this presidential cycle. There will be a lot of negative on a lot of these candidates. And how they handle those moments when the OPO research gets dumped on them, when something as unfair as, oh, she took her own plane at her own expense to just see one more stop of veterans, you know, that that became a touchstone of negativity for my campaign just tells you how weird it can get and how you handle those moments, whether you can and how well do you get organized? How good is your organization? Do you attract the talented people? Do you keep them there? Are they treated so that they feel like they're part of something bigger and they want to?”
2019-02-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 311 - Claire McCaskill · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“How do they do with grassroots fundraising, which I think is going to be huge this time? And, you know, a year from now, I think the two or three that are getting in contention will be obvious. And then it's going to be a matter of can they appeal to the voters in the five states that Trump won that he had no business winning?”
2019-02-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 311 - Claire McCaskill · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, right, right. First of all, all these young people here at the University of Chicago, it's like they think I have the secret sauce. Who's going to win? Tell me who to work for. And we don't know. We know that it's going to be hard. They're going to have to fight through a lot when somebody pulls ahead. Everybody's going to pile on. How do they handle that?”
2019-02-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 311 - Claire McCaskill · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's very weird because I know so many of them so well, and I know them both personally and in the context of their work. I know their work ethic. I know their character. And it is very hard for me to pick a favorite. I do think this process in a strange way because I think Donald Trump will unite us at the end. So in a way, I think this is going to be good because you understand acutely what these things are like. You know what you have to fight through. This is a huge thicket. A candidate's going to have to fight”
2019-02-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 311 - Claire McCaskill · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, like who's a crazy Democrat? And I quickly pointed out we had a state senator in Missouri that called for the assassination of the president on her Facebook page. Well, that's a crazy Democrat. Know, I think crazy Democrats are people who go into restaurants and get in people's faces and torment them when they're sitting in a restaurant with their family. I think that's just a little crazy. I don't have any problem with defining it. I wasn't saying that all progressives were crazy or anything like that. I was just trying to convey that I'm somebody that is happy to work in the middle. I'm happy to be part of a compromise to actually move the needle. Great ideas are great ideas and they move us in the right direction. But America's gotten pretty cynical about proposals that don't happen. And that cynicism is what breeds an electoral result like Donald Trump.”
2019-02-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 311 - Claire McCaskill · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I mean, there were some things going on. I said, I think the phrase that really torqued people was, and I said, crazy Democrats. Somebody in the ad said, She's not one of those. It was a conversation between two people. She's not one of those crazy Democrats. And so, of course, you know, people outside of Missouri got all.”
2019-02-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 311 - Claire McCaskill · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Oh yeah, I mean, people who you have to understand wherever I go in Missouri that's not in the greater Kansas City or St. Louis area, it's Fox News on TV. And it was on a loop. And it was visual. And those visuals were powerful. I mean, it did kind of look like they were going to storm our border just from the videotape that was being shown. And some of it was B-roll that was played over and over again of when the crowd looked the largest and so forth. But be that as it may, those optics were really helped. I mean, somebody said, did Trump organize the caravans? No, I'm sure more.”
2019-02-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 311 - Claire McCaskill · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“She wouldn't have had to come forward. But the fact that they didn't tell anybody about the letter until the 11th hour, I think, was a real problem. I think it was a mistake we made on our side.”
2019-02-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 311 - Claire McCaskill · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Of course. Of course Of course, of course. But I just think the biggest mistake we made was when the letter came in from Dr. Ford, the FBI, as you well know, David, they do a lot of work confidentially on background checks. There is a whole lot of stuff they uncovered that is confidential in background checks. You can trust the FBI to keep a background check confidential. They should have shared it with the FBI right away and said this woman wants to remain confidential, but we want you to have this. And the fact that that didn't happen just lent to the appearance that this was a kneecapping at the 11th hour, which made it harder.”
2019-02-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 311 - Claire McCaskill · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think that one of the things that I hope that whoever is our presidential nominee can convey to the American people is that it's important we understand why people feel differently than we do. I mean, this is important conversations we need to have. There were so many Missourians that believed this was a political hit job that was unfair to this guy. It was high school. It was just, you know, his word against her word. Now, as a former sex crimes prosecutor, it's way more complicated than that. But you have to realize how people felt about it. And the way it all came down.”
2019-02-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 311 - Claire McCaskill · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“They weren't that motivated. I mean, they were running about 10 or 15 points behind us on motivation. Then Kavanaugh happened, then the caravan optics, and then Trump came and camped out. And those three things got everybody off the couch that was in rural Missouri. And so we did had record turnout, record vote totals. Anybody who says we didn't do well with progressives doesn't have any idea what they're talking about. We did great in all the blue areas of Missouri. Record setting, historic, but so did they in the country. And that's what happened. He got them motivated and got him off the couch.”
2019-02-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 311 - Claire McCaskill · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It kind of crystallized in people's minds why Washington sucked how bad it looked from a distance. I may make no mistake about it, whether you thought Kavanaugh was a great nominee or a terrible nominee, it was messy. It was chaotic, and it was hard. I mean, this was a very difficult situation. So, you know, had we had all of this happened earlier and with just one hearing and it still wouldn't have been easy, but it wouldn't have kind of gotten people off the couch. Our chance of winning in Missouri was about motivation. And we were running ahead in motivation. We were doing really well. People were motivated. We had an amazing amount of volunteers. We knocked on more doors than any other campaign in the country. It was really a motivated group of people in Missouri that wanted to re-elect me.”
2019-02-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 311 - Claire McCaskill · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Was a long time ago, you know, like more than a decade ago, hasn't been anywhere near him for years and years. But it got so bad this time that they had a woman calling around to his former women employees trying to get them to say bad things about him. That's how bad it was. He started getting calls at his business from women who used to work for him saying, you know, somebody is calling us, trying to get us to say that you were inappropriate with us. And, you know, you should just know they're doing this. That's how bad it's gotten.”
2019-02-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 311 - Claire McCaskill · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source