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Condoleezza Rice

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“I've been no fan of the tweets, the policy by tweets. I've been no fan of that. But I also think it didn't deserve column inches of analysis. Nuclear war, though, is a...”
2018-01-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 208 - Condoleezza Rice · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“He absolutely has a point. But I would just say, as I used to say, you know, people have asked me, what was it like to be in there? I said, well, you get up in the morning, you read the Washington Post. It says the United States of America should do something about the North Korean nuclear program. And you say, why didn't I think of that, right? Yes, he has a point that nobody was able to stop it. But I think the administration is finding out just how hard it is to stop it.”
2018-01-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 208 - Condoleezza Rice · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I'm not going to try to give advice, and nobody should try to impede the investigation. But I think you're seeing the system work. But I do want to say, David, if people have views, if people in Congress are concerned about what Fusion GPS was doing, then they ought to be asking that question. And the idea that because people are asking questions about the other side, that there's somehow an attack on the institutions, that seems to be wrong-headed.”
2018-01-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 208 - Condoleezza Rice · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“There are people who are arguing now that there were some within the FBI that had a view. If they believe that, they have a right to say it. And I will defend their right to say it. I may not agree, but I will defend their right to say it.”
2018-01-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 208 - Condoleezza Rice · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, because I know him personally and because I have high regard for him. But you know, when you step out there in the public eye, people are going to criticize. People are going to say they're going to call into question what you're doing. It's the nature of the game.”
2018-01-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 208 - Condoleezza Rice · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, the president shouldn't call it a hoax. Let's just say that. But the fact is, Trying to figure out exactly how the Russians did what they did. I agree with this. Because that's really the issue. So we can stop them the next time.”
2018-01-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 208 - Condoleezza Rice · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And he came under the most difficult circumstances, you know, taking over that agency just a few months before 9-11. So under very difficult circumstances, he is a terrific person. He's a straight shooter. I think he will push to a conclusion. I don't have any idea of what it will be. I hope, frankly, it's over pretty soon because we need to get on with our business. And by the way, I want to just go back to one thing about Vladimir Putin. David, I think he loves the fact that we're spinning around about this. That our heads are blowing off. I would have preferred to say we know you did it. And at a time of our choosing, we will punish it, and you won't do it again. But we have confidence in our institutions, and you can't affect our elections in the way that you think you can.”
2018-01-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 208 - Condoleezza Rice · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Paul Manaforth is under soon to be an indictment for other things that have to go way back, not around the election. We will see what happens here. I have a lot of confidence in Bob Mue”
2018-01-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 208 - Condoleezza Rice · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's what they tried to probe. Well, whenever you have an uncomfortable contact with the Russians, you probably ought to call the FBI. But I know that because I've been around. Not sure everybody knows that that's exactly what you ought to do. And so this is...”
2018-01-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 208 - Condoleezza Rice · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“While the Russians are always seeking advantage, Sergei Kisliak was always seeking advantage. I suspect that they thought, well, you know, these are people with not that much experience. We can play on them and so forth and so on. I have no doubt that that was sort of in the back of some. It's not surprising to me that people who wanted to get the Magnitsky Act overturned because the Magnitsky Act caught a lot of sanctions. Yes, sanctions human rights sanctions. And these were sanctions that hit some key players. So I'm not surprised that they...”
2018-01-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 208 - Condoleezza Rice · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I think they may have been sorely disappointed. I think they sowed less chaos than they probably thought. My senses don't really understand the United States very well. And so, yes, it could have been more damaging than I think it was. But I'll say this, David. You know, the next time around, if they're able to do it, shame on us, not shame on them.”
2018-01-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 208 - Condoleezza Rice · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Those Americans who are globalization are grieved about globalization, racial groups who might have been aggrieved. This is an old Soviet trick. Fifth column.”
2018-01-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 208 - Condoleezza Rice · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“First of all, I think Vladimir Putin just likes to make trouble for us, and he wanted to sow chaos, and he wanted to show that our democracy wasn't so terrific. He wanted to show that if we thought his election in 2012 was fraudulent, well, he was going to show the nature of American elections. So I think it was about sowing chaos first and foremost. the sophistication of the effort suggests to me that it went well beyond the Kremlin, that this was probably something really run by the intelligence agencies. It seems to have been well targeted to certain groups of Americans. You know, they tried for many, many years even under Stalin to...”
2018-01-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 208 - Condoleezza Rice · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, but that would be kind of rude. So I didn't say it. But that's who he thinks he is. And so too bad if you have to take somebody else's territory, Crimea. Too bad if you have to fly bomber runs along the coast of Sweden. What are the Swedes done to the Russians in the last couple of hundred years? But I actually think that starting with the Obama administration and continuing in this administration, we've sent pretty strong signals to the Russians that this behavior is unacceptable. I think a larger defense budget sends that signal. I believe that what we've done in terms of reinforcing NATO forces led by the Americans in Poland and in the Baltic states that the messages have been good to the Russians in this regard.”
2018-01-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 208 - Condoleezza Rice · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, Vladimir Putin is emerging, or maybe he's already emerged, as someone who out of his bitterness about how the Cold War ended, out of his sense that the West set out to humiliate Russia, has created a narrative now in which Russia is only going to be great by the old-fashioned way of autocracy at home and aggressiveness abroad. And that's what we're seeing with Vladimir Putin. He so much has told me this said in the book, he said, you know, you know us. Russia's only been great when it's been ruled by great men, like Peter the Great and Alexander II. You know, there's that little voice that wants to say, and do you mean Vladimir the Great? Yes.”
2018-01-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 208 - Condoleezza Rice · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, no, but the politics in Iran is about the politics of a few men. The politics in the United States is about a system in which people can come to disagree about policy. That's a very big difference, and I don't like the idea that, well, they have their politics too. Their politics a little bit different than us.”
2018-01-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 208 - Condoleezza Rice · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, but I will tell you, I think that this is an opportunity for the Europeans and us to say, is there a way to improve this deal? I would look hard at questions of verification. I'd look hard again at taking off restraints on weapons sales advanced conventional weapon sales, on missile technology down the road. I would look hard at whether we're just buying time at the expense of looking and seeing that we actually have an Iranian regime with better capability down the road, rather than saying, well, we should have just certified the deal and stayed with the deal as it is. I do think that there is an opportunity for Europe and the United States to look again. And you know what? The Iranians have the same incentives to stay in this deal that they Had to sign it.”
2018-01-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 208 - Condoleezza Rice · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Perhaps just to keep from having the trouble around decertification, I might have said certify. I didn't support that deal. So I understand why the administration looking at it anew says we have a deal that, yes, it does some good things on the nuclear side. But when you look at Iran in the Middle East, when you look at the troublemaker that the Iranian regime is, whether it is in Yemen or in Syria, when you look at the fact that that money that was unfrozen, and by the way, this is what the protesters in Iran found out when that budget came out, is going to help Solomani and the Kudz force in Lebanon or in Syria, you ask yourself, was the deal worth?”
2018-01-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 208 - Condoleezza Rice · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That are going to be long standing. But when people say China is now going to take up the mantle of global leadership on fill in the blank, free trade. I say to them, with the nationalist economic policies that the Chinese have, where their markets are still closed in large segments, where if you talk to American CEOs these days, they favor their national champions. You can't get a leg up. China is going to lead. When we talk about climate change, China is going to lead. Well, not until you can breathe in Beijing. And so I think we sometimes overstate some of this. Now, yes, I would have stayed in the Paris Agreement. I would have stayed in the TPP. But I don't see these as disasters for American foreign policy. I will tell you that on the Iran deal, while again,”
2018-01-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 208 - Condoleezza Rice · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“David, let's be fair. The former Secretary of State who helped to negotiate the TPP didn't defend it in the election. That tells you something about the politics of trade today And that goes back to the point that I made earlier. When we're in a situation in which you have an election and no major candidate, whether it's the Democrat, Hillary Clinton, or the Republican Donald Trump, or Bernie Sanders. Yeah, I think that was a mistake.”
2018-01-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 208 - Condoleezza Rice · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Because I think it was not worth the trouble of pulling out. But I will tell you that I don't think the Paris Accord pulling out of the Paris Accord means that the United States will walk away from its commitments to do something about climate change.”
2018-01-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 208 - Condoleezza Rice · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I've been in circumstances where our allies rebuked us for what we did as well, as has were you our allies don't always agree on what we pulled out in the Bush administration of the Kyoto Accord. You would have thought the world was ending. Actually, it didn't. The United States went on to do what the United States is going to do, whether we're in the Paris Climate Accord or not. We are going to continue to lower our admissions. We're going to continue, particularly state by state. This is where federalism.”
2018-01-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 208 - Condoleezza Rice · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I don't know where it's going to end up, but I do know that when a regime, I don't care if there are friends, when a regime starts to educate women so that more than half of the students in university are women, they're not going to sit there and not be able to drive. They're not going to live with the world that they once do or that their mothers knew in Saudi Arabia. And so I'm confident that actually we're going to see more reform in the Middle East and less.”
2018-01-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 208 - Condoleezza Rice · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“This is an early time steel for the administration. And I just want to point out again, and I'll come back to Saudi Arabia because interesting things are happening in Saudi Arabia. But this is a time when you say to the president, then on what basis do you criticize Maduro in Venezuela? Well, if you're just going to leave people to their own devices, you have no reason to criticize Maduro is doing. And so you see him speak out actually quite strongly about Venezuela. You see him speak out with all due respect David more strongly on Iran than President Obama did. And so I think you will start to see that the understanding that our values and our interests are actually linked will become more and more evident. When you come to Saudi Arabia, you do have the beginnings of reform in Saudi Arabia.”
2018-01-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 208 - Condoleezza Rice · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Four years later. But you know that when people come to come to you and say, well, how can you even deal with Mubarak? Or how can you even deal with the Saudis? You understand that in fact as allies, we do have to deal with regimes that don't have the democratic structures that we would wish they do. So there is a difference.”
2018-01-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 208 - Condoleezza Rice · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“In 2005. In 2005, calling right there in Egypt, calling on the Egyptians to lead the Middle East toward democracy. Yes, it was aimed at Hosni Mubarak. And I still believe to this day had Hosni Mubarak made some of the changes that he started, he would have had a gentler retirement than President Obama echoed.”
2018-01-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 208 - Condoleezza Rice · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That the president has had an easier time understanding that democracy is really in our interest in the long run when we're talking about enemies or adversaries. Absolutely. I would hope”
2018-01-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 208 - Condoleezza Rice · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, and we the people have had no ethnic or national or religious connotation. It's been an open concept, and that served as well. And so there I would find myself not very much in agreement. But if I look at the foreign policy, I have to say that it's not that different than the foreign policies that we've pursued in the past. The rhetoric looks different. I don't like the term America first at all. There are things that the President of the United States suddenly realizes. For instance, I have to criticize Venezuela and I have to do it on the basis of an argument about democracy. I have to criticize the mulahs in Iran who are putting down protests of people who just want a better life. I have to do something about Syria and the Syrian”
2018-01-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 208 - Condoleezza Rice · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I say let's look at where policy is going and let's see where those policies are emerging. I will tell you, I'm not in agreement with everything that the administration has done. I'm a much stronger proponent of immigration, for instance, as something that's very beneficial to the United States. I think we've been well served by having people come to refresh this generation after generation.”
2018-01-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 208 - Condoleezza Rice · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Presidents for whom we worked came out of the system. The presidents for whom I worked, George H.W. Bush had held every important title, it seems, in America. George W. Bush had been governor of Texas. Barack Obama had been senator from Illinois. They came from the system. And I think fully understood the system. But I tell my friends abroad when I'm asked about the administration.”
2018-01-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 208 - Condoleezza Rice · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Right, every president is a little surprised and frankly a little put off by the fact that there are all of these constraints. You've heard the president for whom you worked. I've heard the presidents for whom I've worked say, what do you mean I can't work? Because we tell the people you're the most powerful man in the world. And to a certain extent, yes, but not really, because there all are all of these constraints. So when you have a president who's never operated in politics at all, who hasn't been a governor or a senator, I think you're perhaps going to have more of that. But I would just emphasize as I do in the book, that what democracies have going for them is that they're not dependent on the whims or the nature of any one person. The institutions are enduring.”
2018-01-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 208 - Condoleezza Rice · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I would happily Happily be in a situation in which we had less rhetoric that was, to my mind, disparaging of some of the institutions that I think serve us well. But the fact is that the institutions are serving us and they're serving us well. And I will tell you, David, you've worked for a president in the United States.”
2018-01-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 208 - Condoleezza Rice · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's an admonition to anyone who takes power in a democratic system. And particularly we have across the world, not just in the United States, people who are coming to power who say, I want to reject everything that has come before. Well, that doesn't work in a democracy because the institutions are enduring. And here in the United States, we're very fortunate the founding fathers were really rather suspicious of too much executive power. They gave us checks and balances. They gave us federalism with the states with great power. They gave us a system that has now created a place in which I think just about everybody thinks they ought to be president wherever their experiences have been. And so every president operates within constraints. And I think this president is operating within constraints.”
2018-01-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 208 - Condoleezza Rice · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And if you are an unemployed coal miner or someone whose skills have not kept pace, not to mention a third grader who can't read, then this global system is going to be frightening to you. And populists are going to play on that. And so we have to go back to first principles and think as a democracy. How are we going to develop human potential to the point that everybody shares in the benefits or at least has the opportunity to share if they're willing to work for it?”
2018-01-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 208 - Condoleezza Rice · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Thank There's no doubt that we're going through a pretty difficult period. I say in the book that the four horsemen of the apocalypse are back, populism and nativism. I really think of it not even nationalism and protectionism and isolationism, and they tend to ride together. And I think we have to ask ourselves, why has that happened? Those of us who really believe that the global order that the United States helped to create after World War II has benefited us greatly have to recognize that there are those for whom it was not beneficial.”
2018-01-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 208 - Condoleezza Rice · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source