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Cory Cotton

lines on the record: 190
first: 2024-12-02
most recent: 2024-12-02
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“Video has 2 million views and it was shared on Yahoo's homepage. And so that turned out to be what had happened. Yahoo's homepage, which I don't know if you remember, but that was like the spot. It was a thing.”
2024-12-02 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Dude Perfect: Cory Cotton and Tyler Toney (2021) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So it was probably three days later, and we were all split up. I think maybe we had done the shot right before some sort of vacation. Maybe there was a break in our schedule. And so I remember my brother and I hopped on a plane to North Carolina with our family. My grandparents lived in North Carolina. And so we hop on the plane. And I mean, I was like literally thinking about how sad I was about the fact that that cool video we had shot recently didn't do well and whatever. Let's just go on vacation and not worry about it. And my brother and I hop on this plane and we're flying in about a two hour flight. And so as we land, we flip our, you know, my phone back off airplane mode and all of a sudden my phone just starts vibrating like I'd never seen mine or anyone else's do before. And I mean, I thought it was broken. And so, you know, finally, the screen kind of slows down enough for me to read a text message or two. And what people had said was something to the effect of, hey, guys, you're most recent.”
2024-12-02 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Dude Perfect: Cory Cotton and Tyler Toney (2021) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“This was a simpler video, in a sense, right? So, everything we've done up until this probably three or four videos had been what someone would probably call a montage, almost felt like a music video. Multiple shots, music behind it, all spliced together. This one we wanted to try something different, and obviously we didn't film multiple shots in the stadium. We just did this one. And so in our heads, we were like, man, we got this. This is going to be one super shareable clip. It's going to be awesome. And it's funny we put it up and we were expecting this like instant reaction. People are going to go crazy over it. And we put it up. And for a while, it just kind of went flat”
2024-12-02 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Dude Perfect: Cory Cotton and Tyler Toney (2021) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So you put this out on the YouTube channel on Corey's YouTube channel. I'm assuming you wrote hey, watch us do the world's longest basketball shot, and did it just go crazy overnight?”
2024-12-02 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Dude Perfect: Cory Cotton and Tyler Toney (2021) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We lost our minds. I mean, I think that's what a lot of people gravitate towards, too, is especially at the beginning, was seeing the celebrations and the excitement and the joy and just that purulation of not only is it over, but you accomplish what you set out to do.”
2024-12-02 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Dude Perfect: Cory Cotton and Tyler Toney (2021) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But sometimes there may be two million places where a ball could land, and you can't throw it two million times because the time would run out. But, I mean, I guess you're kind of calibrating your throw and there's muscle memory and you're feeling it and you're trying to make tiny adjustments, but we're humans. We're not robots, right? We can't be as perfect as robot. But you're kind of feeling that and just making tiny adjustments hoping that everything kind of goes your way at some point.”
2024-12-02 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Dude Perfect: Cory Cotton and Tyler Toney (2021) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“If you just keep guessing and keep throwing enough, then it's going to go in at some point, like it has to. Like the ball can only go so many places. And so as long as you're willing to put in the reps, any trick shot theoretically as possible.”
2024-12-02 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Dude Perfect: Cory Cotton and Tyler Toney (2021) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I mean, like I said, when I threw the ball off the second deck and I knew that we were capable of doing it, we would have been there a week if we had to. You gotta remember every once in a while the ball would come really close, right? It would hit the back iron, hit the rim. And at that point, you're like, oh, I'm staying until as long as it takes. Like, I'm not giving up on this. We always liken it to playing battleship.”
2024-12-02 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Dude Perfect: Cory Cotton and Tyler Toney (2021) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Even an hour and a half, I mean, that sounds like it's amazing that you made it in an hour and a half, but that's still a long time, you know, it's a lot of like, okay, this didn't work, let's get the balls back up. Oh, nope, didn't work. Let's get the balls back up to him. Like, you must have been convinced that you would eventually make it.”
2024-12-02 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Dude Perfect: Cory Cotton and Tyler Toney (2021) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I would say it's probably not as many shots as you would think, especially with only three basketballs, because, you know, after you shoot three basketballs, it probably takes a good five minutes to get everything back up top and reset. So it was only an hour and a half, two hours of shooting. And so it didn't take too long to make the shot.”
2024-12-02 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Dude Perfect: Cory Cotton and Tyler Toney (2021) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Company. And we know what happens in the end. We know you made the shot, but before you get there, how many, I mean, I can't imagine how many shots you had to shoot before you got one that went in.”
2024-12-02 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Dude Perfect: Cory Cotton and Tyler Toney (2021) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So we start throwing basketballs. We had a few members of the tech saying in basketball team that had kind of funneling out of practice to come watch. And we had kind of a little gallery going. Ended up popping one of our basketballs. I think it hit like a bench or something down below on the field. So we were down to three basketballs now at this point. And it's a little bit of a slow process, obviously, in getting three basketballs all the way back up to the top of a stadium. But we'd have somebody on the first deck that the guys on the field would throw to, the guy on the first deck would throw it to the guy on the second deck, the guy on the second deck would throw it up to the third deck. The problem was if somebody in the relay chain threw the ball up but didn't throw it up quite high enough, it would bounce all the way back down. So it was a tricky tree situation. Elevators became our best friends as we moved forward with this company.”
2024-12-02 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Dude Perfect: Cory Cotton and Tyler Toney (2021) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You're thinking way too. Way too far ahead of where we were at. I'm over intellectualizing this. I got you. You know what?”
2024-12-02 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Dude Perfect: Cory Cotton and Tyler Toney (2021) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Alright, so you get up to the third deck. The rest of the dudes at this point was six people. The rest of you guys are on the field or in different parts of the stadium.”
2024-12-02 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Dude Perfect: Cory Cotton and Tyler Toney (2021) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We had upgraded to two cameras at this point, and I think we had made the massive improvement of going from not just one picture camera to video mode to a second actual camcorder, the type that looks like kind of a cylinder that you put your hand through the little strap and your index finger on the top you can zoom. I think we borrowed that from a buddy, so we were feeling extremely fancy.”
2024-12-02 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Dude Perfect: Cory Cotton and Tyler Toney (2021) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You brought one camera with you, or did you bring more than one? Because you needed to film you and the basket and the shot.”
2024-12-02 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Dude Perfect: Cory Cotton and Tyler Toney (2021) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And so I went to the second deck and threw a ball off as hard as I could, and it sailed over the goal onto the football field. And at that point, I was like. We can do this. Like, we can go to the top of the stadium, and I am physically capable of throwing it far enough to make the shot. And that was all we needed to know because we would have stayed there as long as it took to get the shot.”
2024-12-02 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Dude Perfect: Cory Cotton and Tyler Toney (2021) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“More than that, I think at the time, I think it's closer to 85,000 probably And so, first, I went up to the second debt because I honestly didn't know how far I'd be able to throw it off the top. I didn't know how far the ball would go.”
2024-12-02 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Dude Perfect: Cory Cotton and Tyler Toney (2021) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The basketball goal was right on the other side of the track in between the track and the football field. Okay. And we only had four basketballs at the time. We had recruited a few buddies to go up there and help us rebound because we obviously knew it would take more than one shot to get.”
2024-12-02 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Dude Perfect: Cory Cotton and Tyler Toney (2021) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, I think at this point, it was like, okay, well, how are we going to outdo people's expectations now? Because now we've done the backyard video, now we've done the ranch edition, so they'd already seen basketball trick shots taken out of, you know, a traditional environment. And so we were, I think I was in the car with Kobe and we were driving to campus and we drove by Kyle Field, Texas A&M's football stadium. I was like, we need to get in the stadium. We need to do the world's longest basketball shot. I was like, that would be something that people would watch and the Twins were communication majors. So I told Kobe, I was like, hey, if you get us in that stadium, I will throw a ball from the third deck and I will make the shot. So he sent some emails around and I have no idea why, but somebody felt good about...”
2024-12-02 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Dude Perfect: Cory Cotton and Tyler Toney (2021) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That's true. It was an FT. Wow. So you're still making some videos, but this is just a kind of a fun thing you're doing as college students. But in the fall of 2009, I guess you have your second really big kind of moment, which was you decide to try and make the world's longest basketball shot. And Tyler, you were going to be the one to do this. Tell me what the idea of this was.”
2024-12-02 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Dude Perfect: Cory Cotton and Tyler Toney (2021) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That was cool. Let's do it somewhere else. Is probably what we really thought, right? That was fun. Now let's take it out of our backyard. We'll drag that basketball goal somewhere else and do it again”
2024-12-02 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Dude Perfect: Cory Cotton and Tyler Toney (2021) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So they showed some of the video. You did not ever get a chance at that point to talk to Diane Sawyer than you have at this point. Not yet. Diane, you're waiting for your call. But it's on Good Morning America. After that first video and got attention, Was there like a strategic conversation? Like, hey, let's do more of these, or was it just like, that was fun. Maybe we'll make another one.”
2024-12-02 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Dude Perfect: Cory Cotton and Tyler Toney (2021) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Correct. There was audio. There was no way for us to shoot a video feed in there at that point. But we're there and we are ready and we are ready for our phone to ring. And we'd given them our number and they said, hey, we're about to call you guys. You'll see it on TV. But all you have to do is answer our questions. So we are sitting there, you know, salivating, ready to do this interview. And for whatever reason, they never called us. But on camera, you can see Diane Sawyer saying, what was her phrase? We're trying to phone you guys. We're trying to phone you guys. And so we're like, well, you're not. No, you're not. Making a step back.”
2024-12-02 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Dude Perfect: Cory Cotton and Tyler Toney (2021) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I guess we had friends that had other friends, and people just shared it, and it bounced around. The numbers were not, you know, when you think of a viral video, it wasn't that, but it did get passed around enough for someone to notice it. And the absolutely wild thing is that somehow the very next day, I'm laying in bed, you know, probably sleeping, you know, late, like you would imagine in college. And I wake up to my phone buzzing and I pick it up groggily. And it's some lady who said, hey, I'm a producer at Good Morning America and we wanted to play you guys' video today. Is that okay? So of course I'm like, wait, what is happening? How do they have my phone number? Still don't know how they got my number to this day. But of course, said let me pray about it. Yes. And run around the house screaming and telling the guys, you know, hey, we're about to be on good morning America.”
2024-12-02 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Dude Perfect: Cory Cotton and Tyler Toney (2021) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“When we come back in just a moment, how Corey, Tyler, and the rest of the dudes began to grow an audience by giving themselves harder and harder trick shots to perform. Stay with us, I'm Guy Raz, and you're listening to how I built this. Hey, welcome back to How I Built This I'm Guy Ross. So it's April 2009, and the guys from Dude Perfect have just released a video montage of a bunch of trick shots in their backyard. They've sent it out to everyone they know, hoping to eventually get one million views.”
2024-12-02 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Dude Perfect: Cory Cotton and Tyler Toney (2021) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We wanted to share it with family and friends was really the main reason. I had kind of had in the back of my mind a kind of bucket list idea of at some point in my life I would love to put up a video on this new thing called YouTube that got a million views that sounded fun to me that wasn't the goal when we started filming but I think after I had finished editing it we all shared it on our Facebook status with something along the lines of hey guys my buddies and I just made a fun basketball video we're trying to see if it can get a million views thanks for watching”
2024-12-02 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Dude Perfect: Cory Cotton and Tyler Toney (2021) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And just to be clear, because you can see this video obviously still available, and it's like there's a shot of one of you guys throwing a ball off the chimney and then going into the basket and throwing the ball from a distance. And the idea was let's just put this up on YouTube and see what happens.”
2024-12-02 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Dude Perfect: Cory Cotton and Tyler Toney (2021) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Exactly. So I was the only one with a YouTube channel at the time. I was also the only one that knew anything about video editing. I had taken one class in high school. And so I bust open iMovie on my Apple laptop and put the footage in, throw. Obviously, one of my favorite songs at the time, Space Jam, and put that behind it, and very quickly after we load the video, like Tyler said, you know, this video has been banned worldwide was the error message we got back and we learned that you can't just use someone else's music. And so then we actually called one of Cody's buddies who lived down the street and he had happened to just be there actually the week before handing out his demo CD for their group's recent kind of launch.”
2024-12-02 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Dude Perfect: Cory Cotton and Tyler Toney (2021) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Use the space jam music because you're like, Yeah, of course, but you obviously were college students and bozos, so you didn't know that you can't do that.”
2024-12-02 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Dude Perfect: Cory Cotton and Tyler Toney (2021) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So we basically put together a video of us doing the shots in the backyard, right? Picture music and us doing different shots with the occasional celebration in between. That's really all it won't pick.”
2024-12-02 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Dude Perfect: Cory Cotton and Tyler Toney (2021) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Alright, so April 8th, 2009. You guys recorded a video which you decide to upload to YouTube. And this is still pretty early YouTube days. It's like two and a half, three years into YouTube.”
2024-12-02 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Dude Perfect: Cory Cotton and Tyler Toney (2021) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Really actually No, so Sean was. So originally DP had six members. So Sean was one of the other guys that lived with us at the house. And me and him were in the backyard originally when we decided like, hey, we need like a beginning to this video of these trick shots. And so we had two chairs set up, like lawn chairs in the backyard that were sitting in the middle of the yard. He put the camera on the railing because obviously we didn't have a cameraman or anything like that. And when he set it up, he went around and looked on the backside of the camera through the little viewfinder. And he said, oh, dude, perfect. It's already in frame. Like everything's good to go. Like it's centered up. Nice. And so we went around and it was already recording at that point. So he came around and sat down next to me and we recorded a terrible intro where we named it like backyard stunt man. And when we went back and listened to the original audio, we just thought it was funny the way that he said, dude, perfect. And so we ended up.”
2024-12-02 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Dude Perfect: Cory Cotton and Tyler Toney (2021) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I guess eventually you had a friend of yours, Sean, actually, do a proper film of, like really actually try to make cool films of this?”
2024-12-02 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Dude Perfect: Cory Cotton and Tyler Toney (2021) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It started with recreating that shot with Tyler and Garrett. So Tyler goes in the corner, does his hook shot, and I think the dynamic shifted when we saw it on camera. I know that's silly to say, but when we are looking through, you know, playing it back on the camera, it just has a different vibe, right? And especially when you've never done this kind of thing before, it just looks fun to try and do again. And so it started with that shot for Ty, but then someone else said, hey, I want a shot. And someone goes, you know, across the fence and throws it, or one of the guys climbed on the roof, you know, or someone does a bounce shot off the chimney, and we were just having fun in our backyard”
2024-12-02 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Dude Perfect: Cory Cotton and Tyler Toney (2021) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“A little compact digital camera. One of the ones where you turn it on in the middle lens goes and kind of pokes out towards the front. I mean, very small. And to be honest, we've never really been able to remember who exactly busted out the camera. I think my gut is that Ty made that first shot and Garrett had to buy him lunch and we wanted to show the other guys when they got back. And it was kind of a, you know, keep everyone honest, make sure they pay their bets and also show the guys because it was a funny story.”
2024-12-02 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Dude Perfect: Cory Cotton and Tyler Toney (2021) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So I understand you got the hoop, right? But first of all, what kind of cat was an iPhone camera? Was it a video camera? And who decided to start filming those shots that day”
2024-12-02 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Dude Perfect: Cory Cotton and Tyler Toney (2021) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Right, Ty is pretty known at least back in the day for creating what we all call one sided bets. So, for example, I walk into the backyard one day, college house, and Ty has a knife in his pocket, right, grew up on a ranch, always has a knife with him. And he said, hey, I bet I can throw this knife and stick it in that tree all the way across the backyard, you know, 30 yards. And if I do, you owe me ten bucks. Well, there's no, if I don't, I owe you ten bucks. It's just one-sided. And so, you know, classic, me, I'm like, sure, whatever. And he does it, sticks in the tree. So it was that situation, just basketball version that kind of started everything, ties in the backyard, and he looks at Garrett. And he says, hey, if I make the shot, you owe me a Jimmy John sandwich. And he's kind of standing in the corner and tosses up a hook shot, swish O'Dre now.”
2024-12-02 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Dude Perfect: Cory Cotton and Tyler Toney (2021) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It was a plastic backboard basketball goal from Academy Garrett and I went and bought and we didn't really have a great driveway or any concrete to play basketball on. So we just stuck it in the backyard and we would make up shooting games or just have free throw competitions. We were getting ready to go to lunch one day, and I went to the corner of the yard and I was like, hey, if I make this, you're buying my lunch. And he's like, okay, whatever.”
2024-12-02 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Dude Perfect: Cory Cotton and Tyler Toney (2021) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Alright, so as the story goes that I've read. At a certain point in this house, you decide let's buy a basketball hoop. Like one of those hoops that is a standalone basketball hoop, right? That you put sand or water in the bottom to weigh it down.”
2024-12-02 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Dude Perfect: Cory Cotton and Tyler Toney (2021) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No, I had to ask my sister where the library was my senior year when she was a freshman, unfortunately, when I was forced to study for a class that I really needed to pass to graduate. So that was a humbling moment too.”
2024-12-02 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Dude Perfect: Cory Cotton and Tyler Toney (2021) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I mean, you would do things like you'd have two of you just sitting on a sofa and one person would throw a football in between and like whoever caught it would like try to wrestle it away from the other person. I mean, you were doing that kind of stuff.”
2024-12-02 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Dude Perfect: Cory Cotton and Tyler Toney (2021) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Or baseball. Like, they would just throw a stuffed sock at the other one with a plastic bat. And my wife would be like, what are you guys doing? Eventually, we all understood. That's just what they were doing. But you guys were like 19, 20 years old, and you were doing this at your college group house.”
2024-12-02 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Dude Perfect: Cory Cotton and Tyler Toney (2021) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So you guys were like big boys, basically. Still are. And this is not, again, this is not a judgment. This is like, because I think about my boys from a very early age that would like to take socks and roll them up and play hockey in our living room.”
2024-12-02 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Dude Perfect: Cory Cotton and Tyler Toney (2021) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I mean, we had like these really ugly doors. This house was. Had these very Star Trek shaped doors that were just like very rounded and One of them was kind of a cross from the kitchen opening, and we just ended up turning them into like hockey goals. And so we would just stuff pillows in, you know, pants and shirts for the goalies and play hockey in the living room. We had a mini hoop in the living room that we played basketball, made up a bunch of games outside. I mean, we were just always competing. We were always creating ways to have fun. We were never short on ideas, I guess, for things to do.”
2024-12-02 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Dude Perfect: Cory Cotton and Tyler Toney (2021) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, alright, so this is your kind of group house. You all were students, so you had to study, but you also... Take me inside that house. Were you playing video games all the time, or are you doing in there?”
2024-12-02 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Dude Perfect: Cory Cotton and Tyler Toney (2021) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So from what I understand, Tyler, your sophomore year you move in with those guys, and Cody was also living with you or not at that point.”
2024-12-02 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Dude Perfect: Cory Cotton and Tyler Toney (2021) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yes, it was the five of us, but we also had a lot of other friends that would come and our house was a huge hangout. And, you know, it probably looked like we were having just a massive party sometimes because, you know, the police would come every once in a while because we had a lot of cars in front of our street. But people would just come and hang out and we just had fun sports, you know, Games going on at her house, and there were just a lot of people that were hanging around”
2024-12-02 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Dude Perfect: Cory Cotton and Tyler Toney (2021) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No, I think the answer to the question is not really when we were in college, kind of one of the things that we wanted to show people is that you didn't necessarily have to go to parties and get wasted and drink a lot of alcohol to have fun and enjoy yourself in college. And personally, I had another outlet. My family ranch that I grew up on that was only about an hour and a half from college station. Honestly, I skipped a lot of weekends in college station to go hang out with my grandma and my grandpa down there at our ranch.”
2024-12-02 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Dude Perfect: Cory Cotton and Tyler Toney (2021) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“In a place like Texas AM, there's going to be, and I'm totally projecting, I don't know, I've never been there, but I think because it's a big school, like any big school, there's going to be all kinds of different activities and different scenes, but presumably a huge fraternity scene, probably a really big party scene. Did you guys avoid that because of your interest in sports and faith? I don't know, we guys drinking and doing like, I mean, I'm not, no judgment. I'm just curious. Were you doing beer bong games and stuff like that in college?”
2024-12-02 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Dude Perfect: Cory Cotton and Tyler Toney (2021) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT