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Dacher Keltner

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“We do. We do. And that, you know, you've been challenging me, Stephen. Like, all right, what do we do? Just look at a hospital, put some nature in it, right? Look at a prison. Prisons are horrifying in the United States. Norway has more open prisons with views and so forth, different recidivism rates. So I take from this science, and I'm really grateful to you for profiling it Scholarly and thoughtful way, like we got to use this knowledge. And prisons is a nice application.”
2023-02-06 · The Diary of a CEO · The "Happy Life" Scientist: How To FINALLY Beat Stress, Worry & Uncertainty! Dacher Keltner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And access to awe. There is a movement, parks living near parks. London is one of the greenest cities in the world. Living your parks boosts life expectancy, I think through awe. There's a movement in the United States in California that everybody should be 10 minutes public transport away from a park for free. $360 million people went to the national parks in the United States last year. So there's a lot of with this stress profile that we've been talking about culturally, they're easy solutions and one pathway is through being outdoors with all.”
2023-02-06 · The Diary of a CEO · The "Happy Life" Scientist: How To FINALLY Beat Stress, Worry & Uncertainty! Dacher Keltner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I don't. It's a terrific question, right? And obesity is, I think, in the US, I think the latest estimate is 56% of U.S. citizens. Probably pretty comparable here in the UK. And man, when I think about the food that we put into our bodies, the lack of activity that are not chosen, right, that depend on what kind of soft drink that's readily available and cheap and how fast food is so cheap and provide us a certain kind of high. To me, that says that it's mainly not a choice of the people eating, but it is a choice of the policymakers. So I would make that argument.”
2023-02-06 · The Diary of a CEO · The "Happy Life" Scientist: How To FINALLY Beat Stress, Worry & Uncertainty! Dacher Keltner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Which Yeah, you know, and part of our theme in our conversation is how we're all connected and united in these super organisms, some people call them, through practicing gratitude and sharing resources that spreads through these social networks. And then the compliment is also true, which is, you know, and as much as I don't like gossip and I didn't like being gossiped about, it's a human universal. It can be horrifying. And we've got to worry about it, like online catfights and it escalates. We studied these social groups. And the thing that people really gossip about is when you're not kind, right? They're like, look at what that person just said, these harsh things. That spreads through the network. And it tries to keep those problematic tendencies in check.”
2023-02-06 · The Diary of a CEO · The "Happy Life" Scientist: How To FINALLY Beat Stress, Worry & Uncertainty! Dacher Keltner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And not only that, but I just heard 50% of U.S. health care expenses are on the last five years of life when a lot of those people are living alone and feeling lonely. And there are simple ways to address that as we've been talking about. So there's a bottom line that's really relevant here too.”
2023-02-06 · The Diary of a CEO · The "Happy Life" Scientist: How To FINALLY Beat Stress, Worry & Uncertainty! Dacher Keltner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Craving we have is to be appreciated by other people. You don't hear it, you don't hear the thank you, you don't get to go out and feel awe with somebody or feel kindness. So I think we have to think very actively about building these emotions into those contexts. In the United States, there are 35,000 long-term care facilities. The elderly in the United States, a lot of them live alone. When people from India see how we treat the elderly or people from Mexico, it's just like the unhoused. They're like, what are you guys doing? You know, you're taking the vulnerable and sort of shunting them off alone. But these emotions point to really direct actionable things to do, right? With awe practices and compassion. So it gives me hope, but we've got, you know, I think in part historically.”
2023-02-06 · The Diary of a CEO · The "Happy Life" Scientist: How To FINALLY Beat Stress, Worry & Uncertainty! Dacher Keltner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Know if the gender stereotypes and these rigid concepts and then the lies we lead don't allow us to hug and feel grateful and feel empathetic, it countervails that. And those are gender stereotypes, right? Oh, if I practice compassion at work, I'll be weak and I won't rise. That's not true. That's a gender stereotype. And it denies men disproportionately this opportunity for these emotions, right? And that's that, you know, with new conceptions of gender, new ideas about work is changing dramatically, that will shift. And I think it'll be good news for the health of men. And then loneliness in some sense is the deprivation of everything we've been talking about. It's that you don't get to hug somebody like you would like to every day and that you don't hear the words of appreciation William James.”
2023-02-06 · The Diary of a CEO · The "Happy Life" Scientist: How To FINALLY Beat Stress, Worry & Uncertainty! Dacher Keltner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I mean, those are such deep insights and really worth thinking more concretely about what to do. I think that kind of the gender complexities here are really striking, right? Men live significantly fewer years than women in most Western globalized cultures. And I think you're on a really interesting hypothesis, Stephen, which is that”
2023-02-06 · The Diary of a CEO · The "Happy Life" Scientist: How To FINALLY Beat Stress, Worry & Uncertainty! Dacher Keltner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Same effect? Yeah, I mean, dogs evolved. Because we love them and they love us. And there's all this new amazing dog science where this is one of my favorite studies. And touch releases oxytocin. Which is this little chemical that floats in your brain and your blood, and it helps you be kind to other people and cooperate. And there are now studies from Japan showing You may do this with your dog, Stephen. Where if you look into the eyes of your dog, your dog will have a surge of oxytocin and you will have a surge of oxytocin. So it's like all of this social stuff that's so simple. If eye contact and touch brings us good things even with our dogs.”
2023-02-06 · The Diary of a CEO · The "Happy Life" Scientist: How To FINALLY Beat Stress, Worry & Uncertainty! Dacher Keltner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And from gratitude to kindness to find some, oh, man, if you're not hugging people you love, if you're not, if you don't have a rich language of touch with your friends, you know, I learned at playing pickup basketball. Basketball, which is the, I believe, the most fascinating sport in human history, it has this amazing language of touch, you know, and it's unique to the court, right? Your fist bumping, chest bumping, and the like. If you're not doing that with your friends, you're missing out on one of the great languages of human kind, which is to be in contact with each other. So, you know, parents, you know, when you have kids, and I hope some of your listeners are doing that, you know, it's this mystery. Like, should they take naps on my body? How should I hold them? Should I carry them in public? Am I indulging them? And I think the more friendly kind touch the better. So we're moving back.”
2023-02-06 · The Diary of a CEO · The "Happy Life" Scientist: How To FINALLY Beat Stress, Worry & Uncertainty! Dacher Keltner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Aggressive. They can't handle social interactions. You know, orphans deprived of touch, famous orphan studies, in humans, same thing. They just like, they don't become human in some way, or they are human, but they have trouble with social contact. Yeah, you know, I mean, part of the questioning that you're engaging in, Stephen, of the literature is like, well, what can I do just to live a more meaningful life?”
2023-02-06 · The Diary of a CEO · The "Happy Life" Scientist: How To FINALLY Beat Stress, Worry & Uncertainty! Dacher Keltner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah. I mean, if you deprive those monkeys of the nice touch, they don't learn how to behave socially effectively. You know, if you give them a choice between a wire monkey, mother, and that provides milk and then a terrycloth one, they always hang around the terrycloth one, right? They just love the social contact. If you deprive non-human primates of touch, they are almost schizophrenic or psychopathic or they're just like,”
2023-02-06 · The Diary of a CEO · The "Happy Life" Scientist: How To FINALLY Beat Stress, Worry & Uncertainty! Dacher Keltner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Western European culture, they came up with the idea like touch is sexual. You got to get it. And it is, but only certain kinds of touch are sexual. There's a lot of friendly touch we need, right? And it just shut it down. And now it's coming back. It's, thank goodness. It's good for us.”
2023-02-06 · The Diary of a CEO · The "Happy Life" Scientist: How To FINALLY Beat Stress, Worry & Uncertainty! Dacher Keltner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Has direct effects on your immune system and your vagus nerve and your heart rate and the health of your body. And so, you know, early discoveries, you have premature babies, they're going to die. And they used to just put them in these little sort of units that warm them and had them sort of be comfortable and fed. And they would die. And then they figured out you got to hold the premature baby. They needed skin-to-skin contact. They need food, right? And they live. They gain 47% weight gain. And then, you know, they're just studies time and time again. A nice hug, lower cortisol, nice embrace with somebody, elevated vagal tone. The studies that you referred to, you know, patting kids on the back, they do better in school. And it's so interesting. Parts of English culture, you know, Victorian culture.”
2023-02-06 · The Diary of a CEO · The "Happy Life" Scientist: How To FINALLY Beat Stress, Worry & Uncertainty! Dacher Keltner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's touch in a lot of mammalian species, including humans, is just connection. It's identity. I'm with you. You know, you think early in life, we are constantly being held and in skin-to-skin contact with our caregivers. It's foundational. It's where my sense of me and you connection emerges. The physiology of touch is mind-blowing. You know, our hands are incredible. They're spectacular, you know, evolutionary adaptations that can do all kinds of things, including touch. Our skin eight pounds, billions of cells, our immune system is in the skin. It registers touch in many different ways from the sexual to the friendly to the cooperative, goes up into the brain and says, man, you're being touched in this way. And that has”
2023-02-06 · The Diary of a CEO · The "Happy Life" Scientist: How To FINALLY Beat Stress, Worry & Uncertainty! Dacher Keltner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, and really nice research on the contagiousness of altruism and compassion. Yeah, it is like gratitude. It's one of these big winners. You know, if I there's a loving kindness practice where comes out of East Asian traditions where you just calm yourself, get into some deep breathing, find a quiet, safe space, and orient kind phrases to other people. May you be filled with loving kindness. May you be safe from inner outer danger, well in body and mind, at ease and happy. And that simple practice, two minutes, right, just calms the amygdala, threat-related region of the brain, activates reward circuitry. So, you know, you talked about and you asked about what are these structural conditions of our busy lives that get in the way. Of the good life, and you've got to find a few moments just to be kind.”
2023-02-06 · The Diary of a CEO · The "Happy Life" Scientist: How To FINALLY Beat Stress, Worry & Uncertainty! Dacher Keltner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's amazing, you know, and it begins with a study by Liz Dunn, famous study replicated in many different cultures, which is you give people some money and they can give it away. Giving it away boosts happiness more than spending it on yourself. There's research. I love this work and contagion has been part of our experience here where if I am kind to you, Stephen, this is kind of extending from the study That boosts my life expectancy. It shifts my physiology. It shifts my stress. But I love this work where if I'm kind to you and then the experimenter watches you in your next interaction, you're kinder to that person, right? I'm not around. My act of kindness makes you more kind downstream. And then that person you've helped actually is kinder to another person in a subsequent interaction.”
2023-02-06 · The Diary of a CEO · The "Happy Life" Scientist: How To FINALLY Beat Stress, Worry & Uncertainty! Dacher Keltner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I can see somebody suffering, dying, cancer, flesh wounds, crying in pain. And when I lock into the compassion response, certain regions of the brain are activated that are different than empathy, the vagus nerve is activated, and it really just throws you into altruistic action, right? And that's why when the Dalai Lama, who's now one of the most prominent spiritual figures in the world, says, if you want others to be happy, practice compassion. And if you want to be happy, practice compassion. That gets to it, right? Like, man, if you can stay close to compassion. You and other people and the greater good will do well. It's a really dynamic emotion.”
2023-02-06 · The Diary of a CEO · The "Happy Life" Scientist: How To FINALLY Beat Stress, Worry & Uncertainty! Dacher Keltner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Empathy is, I feel the same thing as you. I understand your mental states. If you're in pain, I feel pain. Compassion is you're in pain and I want to make your circumstances better. I want to lift up your well-being. So it's interesting. Compassion is a very dynamic emotion. It's an empowered emotion. It isn't nice is great. You know, it's politeness and civility and being considered. I think we need more niceness in the world and I think we often, I think the connotations of the word nice sort of devalue how powerful it is. But compassion is powerful. It is the state of wanting to lift up the welfare of other people who suffer. And what's striking about it, and I love the neurophysiology of this in which really speaks. To its power, which is that”
2023-02-06 · The Diary of a CEO · The "Happy Life" Scientist: How To FINALLY Beat Stress, Worry & Uncertainty! Dacher Keltner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And if it's not changing hiring practices or pay practices or school admissions, it is BS. And probably counter works against social progress.”
2023-02-06 · The Diary of a CEO · The "Happy Life" Scientist: How To FINALLY Beat Stress, Worry & Uncertainty! Dacher Keltner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Of they create these virtuous organizations and pay people good salaries and don't do a lot in the world. And that is a critique out there. And I think it could be even more robustly levied against the digital virtue is like it's you could say it's meaningless. Let's take that hypothesis, right? Oh, we turn acts of generosity and kindness and appreciation that you saw on the train. Into digital things that don't affect anything, right?”
2023-02-06 · The Diary of a CEO · The "Happy Life" Scientist: How To FINALLY Beat Stress, Worry & Uncertainty! Dacher Keltner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah You know, I mean, there's one argument that in general, any act of virtue and way of promoting the greater good becomes co-opted and exploited by people who have power. And there's a critique, you know, I hate to say this, but of a lot of nonprofits that they...”
2023-02-06 · The Diary of a CEO · The "Happy Life" Scientist: How To FINALLY Beat Stress, Worry & Uncertainty! Dacher Keltner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Suddenly coming out of the 60s and all the social revolutions of those times, now young people are allowed to say, I want to make a ton of money. I want to live in a big house. I want to, you know, I want to drive whatever car and your generation is reacting against that big pendulum shift, right? And suddenly it's like, hey, that didn't work. Look at the Amazon. Look at economic inequality. Bernie Sanders, right? What about climate crises? Greta Thunberg, right? Suddenly new model and it's. It's coming.”
2023-02-06 · The Diary of a CEO · The "Happy Life" Scientist: How To FINALLY Beat Stress, Worry & Uncertainty! Dacher Keltner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, no, it's exciting for me. I mean, you know, and there are a lot of good findings on this that when Thatcher and Reagan hit in 1980, and that's when I was 18, right, we had this big return to materialism. And you think about the movie Wall Street being iconic. Greed is good. And that truly, that was the idea, right? Of like the point of life is selfish genes and maximizing my wealth. And we had this massive shift in Wall Street and that became our ideology. And that's been documented sociologically. Like in my generation,”
2023-02-06 · The Diary of a CEO · The "Happy Life" Scientist: How To FINALLY Beat Stress, Worry & Uncertainty! Dacher Keltner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“How do my actions promote healthier societies? And I think that a lot of young people are raising questions of meaning right now with climate crises and economic inequality, the state of democracy. Like, what is the point? You think about conversations from the last century and the centuries before, you know, reading for all people would use words like the soul. And spirit. And like, this is what I'm really about in life. And we've lost sight of that, you know. And so hopefully with this book, people, whatever language they want to use, they're asking questions like, what am I devoted to? What's sacred?”
2023-02-06 · The Diary of a CEO · The "Happy Life" Scientist: How To FINALLY Beat Stress, Worry & Uncertainty! Dacher Keltner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And it's so interesting, Stephen. One of the reasons that I got really excited about awe as an emotion to study a brief state that you go out and you see the moment of generosity that you saw or look at the sky or think about a big idea, the idea of space or infinity is it does bring people, it kind of moves people away from transactional considerations. So in one of our studies Look up into the trees, you feel awe. You're less interested in money, you're less focused on the self, and you're really more focused on the greater good.”
2023-02-06 · The Diary of a CEO · The "Happy Life" Scientist: How To FINALLY Beat Stress, Worry & Uncertainty! Dacher Keltner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Dramatically so for people your age. Where they gave us a big picture of life. And now, you know, young people are hungry for it and they're challenging a lot of the approaches to happiness that don't give meaning. New conceptions of work. Like, I don't have to stay at one career if it isn't meaningful. New conceptions of romantic relationship. And so I think a lot of different perspectives are saying this is one of the crises of our times is meaning, is what will be the big thing you're devoted to?”
2023-02-06 · The Diary of a CEO · The "Happy Life" Scientist: How To FINALLY Beat Stress, Worry & Uncertainty! Dacher Keltner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, it is. You know, thanks for bringing that up and, you know, purpose. A lot of people now call it meaning. What vague term has many different definitions, but it's, you know, I as an individual, how do I connect two things that are larger than the self, that don't have to do with income or status or directly, but like, what's my point here in my brief life on earth? What am I going to serve? What's the big cause that I'm part of? This is really emerging in the science of happiness as a central focus of we know well how to find income. We have good ideas about sensory pleasures, what's good to eat, how do I drink wines, what's the great coffee and the like. But we've lost sight of meaning. You know, churches and religions used to give that to us, you know, and religious participation is on the decline in the West.”
2023-02-06 · The Diary of a CEO · The "Happy Life" Scientist: How To FINALLY Beat Stress, Worry & Uncertainty! Dacher Keltner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Probably as part of this story, too. Too much stress, too much loneliness, not enough music and joy and shared communal experience. We are struggling. And that's part of probably that statistic too. And so that's why, you know, as I mentioned, the Surgeon General Vik Murthy, a very smart team, looking at these kind of processes and saying, How do we build community? They've got a big program now. So it is alarming. And that statistic is important for thinking about where we are.”
2023-02-06 · The Diary of a CEO · The "Happy Life" Scientist: How To FINALLY Beat Stress, Worry & Uncertainty! Dacher Keltner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Are often forgotten in the cultural discourse. They're poor. I grew up around these people. Very poor. Don't eat good food. Schools are not that good. Work is uncertain. And they feel disrespected in some sense. And that subculture in the US has been killing themselves with opiates and drinking and drug addiction and suicides and the like. And it's a serious problem. And it's part of that statistic. And then I think that, you know, if you think about the problems of contemporary culture concentrated in the United States of lack of civility, rage, self-focus, a lot of things that undermine our physical health through the mind.”
2023-02-06 · The Diary of a CEO · The "Happy Life" Scientist: How To FINALLY Beat Stress, Worry & Uncertainty! Dacher Keltner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, you know, in the United States, and I don't know the data in the UK, And it's really related to inequality and opportunity and the poor distribution of opportunity and resources is there have been these amazing findings related to what's called death by despair. And certain populations in the United States, very poor white people, large group of the large subculture in the United States.”
2023-02-06 · The Diary of a CEO · The "Happy Life" Scientist: How To FINALLY Beat Stress, Worry & Uncertainty! Dacher Keltner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Know when you gain in resources, you don't have these raw feelings of compassion as often or God, I'm grateful for that gift, right? That you gave me, or this is awesome, this person's courage or how they overcome obstacles. And so that diminishes How wealth could make you happier? So I think it's at play in some of these phenomena and maybe in others”
2023-02-06 · The Diary of a CEO · The "Happy Life" Scientist: How To FINALLY Beat Stress, Worry & Uncertainty! Dacher Keltner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Rich people, this is interesting. Surprised me, rich people are less likely to experience anxiety and depression in the United States. Yeah, interesting, isn't it? We think so lonely and anxiety producing to be at the top. No, mental health issues are really concentrated in the poor for obvious reasons. Working two jobs, riding the bus, you know, schools are under resource, et cetera. But to your point, and it's interesting the effect of wealth on happiness is much smaller than people think. People think, you know, in particular in a country like the United Kingdom or Great Britain or US, like, oh, once I make a lot of money, it'll be bliss and happiness and contentment. That turns out not to be true. It's a weak relationship. And I think part of the reason is.”
2023-02-06 · The Diary of a CEO · The "Happy Life" Scientist: How To FINALLY Beat Stress, Worry & Uncertainty! Dacher Keltner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Right, privilege knocks out these important tendencies that help with inflammation and vagal tone and the like. Rich people do live longer. That's robust. Yeah, yeah. And food you eat and so forth. Opportunity for health, you know, yoga, all the things that benefit us.”
2023-02-06 · The Diary of a CEO · The "Happy Life" Scientist: How To FINALLY Beat Stress, Worry & Uncertainty! Dacher Keltner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, that's terrific. That's a really striking question. And we don't know. And I think your reasoning is right on the point, which is, wow, you.”
2023-02-06 · The Diary of a CEO · The "Happy Life" Scientist: How To FINALLY Beat Stress, Worry & Uncertainty! Dacher Keltner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And that is hard to work against, right? That is a deep sociological process. Appoint the cabinet member from Oxford or whatever, and you're in trouble, yeah. You know, it's It is a lot of economists, a lot of the work coming out of spirit level UK. This is a central challenge of the structure of our societies today is this increasingly unequal distribution of privilege and wealth and all that goes with it.”
2023-02-06 · The Diary of a CEO · The "Happy Life" Scientist: How To FINALLY Beat Stress, Worry & Uncertainty! Dacher Keltner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But like the fact that everybody is exactly the same. Yeah, I mean, I think that there's an awareness dimension to this that you've suggested. There's an ethical practice of like, how do I create more gratitude in an organization if that's what we care about, et cetera?”
2023-02-06 · The Diary of a CEO · The "Happy Life" Scientist: How To FINALLY Beat Stress, Worry & Uncertainty! Dacher Keltner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Serious economic policies that hurt the poor and benefit the well to do who already have, in the US, the 1%, they have enough. They have more than enough, right? Why not share a little? So it's deep. And I think, and then you look across history, European aristocracies, and the popes and so forth. And I think it's one of the Stephen, and I hate to say it, you know, Lord Acton. Power leads to abuse and absolute power, absolute corruption, our power is corrupting, it's a pretty safe law in human behavior. I hate to say it Because you're rising in prominence and facing a new life, and you better watch out”
2023-02-06 · The Diary of a CEO · The "Happy Life" Scientist: How To FINALLY Beat Stress, Worry & Uncertainty! Dacher Keltner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's the rich rich high school kids in the United States are more likely to shoplift, right? And that's striking. They've got their parents' credit card. They can buy whatever they want. Violate that social rule. This is where it gets really worrisome. My former student, Michael Kraus, did really nice work U.S. senators and U.S. policymakers, you know, American politicians are rich. Increasingly so. And he was simply interested in does your degree of Privilege or wealth predict regressive policy preferences. Like, let's not give resources to schools for the poor. Let's not fund Medicare. Let's really move wealth through taxation policies to the well-to-do and the wealthier you are, the more you preferred and advocated for”
2023-02-06 · The Diary of a CEO · The "Happy Life" Scientist: How To FINALLY Beat Stress, Worry & Uncertainty! Dacher Keltner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, you know, and it is, I mean, that's the broad argument. I've given you a couple of findings here. There are all kinds of other findings that speak to this. One, this is one of my favorites is these epidemiologists who are studying broad trends in social behavior discovered this accidentally. They're interested in who shoplifts as a teenager in the United States, you know, a basic unethical tendency, really costly for businesses in the United States. Is it the rich or the poor?”
2023-02-06 · The Diary of a CEO · The "Happy Life" Scientist: How To FINALLY Beat Stress, Worry & Uncertainty! Dacher Keltner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It is. And, you know, I worry about it. I worry about it a lot. privilege in the United States and increasingly UK and other countries is doing to the social fabric. It's problematic.”
2023-02-06 · The Diary of a CEO · The "Happy Life" Scientist: How To FINALLY Beat Stress, Worry & Uncertainty! Dacher Keltner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Forms of unethical behavior. The other rebuttal is we've actually done experiments, right? And you can take a middle class individual and you can get them into the mindset like, hey, you're actually have a lot of advantage vis- ⁇-vis most of society through simple manipulations, right? Just think about how you compare to a lot of poor people. And they're like, oh, I'm doing really well. And that simple shift in mindset leads to reduced compassion, reduced empathy. So you can actually move people around where you give them the sense that they're privilege and it tends to undermine these tendencies. I know.”
2023-02-06 · The Diary of a CEO · The "Happy Life" Scientist: How To FINALLY Beat Stress, Worry & Uncertainty! Dacher Keltner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I mean, there are two, and that's a critical question, right? And people have long championed this idea that, well, maybe all of this, what it really tells us is if you practice our compassion, you don't rise in the ranks and you don't gain wealth and the like. And there are two rebuttals to that idea. The first, which I chart in the power paradox, which people still don't believe too much. But on balance today, people who practice empathy, who listen and share resources, practice gratitude rise in the ranks. They do better in social hierarchies. And that replicates in a lot of contexts. And really what happens is, this is why I call it the power paradox, is once I have everybody's respect and, you know, wealth and the like, then I tend to misbehave, right? In the ways we've talked about through a lot of different...”
2023-02-06 · The Diary of a CEO · The "Happy Life" Scientist: How To FINALLY Beat Stress, Worry & Uncertainty! Dacher Keltner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You create a life that makes it harder to be kind, you know, that people are assisting you with things and you don't come into contact with suffering. You know, you live in a neighborhood in the United States or probably UK where it's like, you don't see it, you know, and so it doesn't train those tendencies. And, you know, frankly, Stephen, I think this is increasingly true in the UK, but in the United States, with one in six people impoverished. Life expectancy is dropping, you know, six hundred thousand unhoused people in the United States where I live, Berkeley, California, everywhere you go, you're bumping into somebody who doesn't have a home. I think it's our central failure in the US is how privilege has short-circuited our better human tendencies.”
2023-02-06 · The Diary of a CEO · The "Happy Life" Scientist: How To FINALLY Beat Stress, Worry & Uncertainty! Dacher Keltner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You know, as you rise in wealth and privilege, you share less, you feel less compassion to images of suffering. You know, you see an image. This was a striking study to me of, you know, it's a movie about a child who has cancer. And poorer people show activation of the vagus nerve, which is part of compassion. You know, causes you to like want to help well-to-do people, less activation. They feel less awe. as you rise in the social class hierarchy in the United States are more impolite. And so that was part of my power paradox book was that story about the class. I hesitate. I worry about like in my worst person and I'd rather use your earlier language of like, what are the structural conditions that get in the way of this? And you think about, you know, rising in wealth and privilege and class.”
2023-02-06 · The Diary of a CEO · The "Happy Life" Scientist: How To FINALLY Beat Stress, Worry & Uncertainty! Dacher Keltner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Know the 80s, 90s were just blind to it as a more egalitarian time. And I lived in Nottingham, England, very working class town, in a very tough time in England's history of coal strikes and the like. And it was tough. And the English had this just much more sophisticated understanding of class and differentiations between on the dole and working class and posh and all these categories. I was like, wow, class is everywhere. It affects how people speak and dress and eat and so forth. And so we started to apply social class to what we've been talking about, like the compassion, awe, gratitude, empathy, kindness sharing altruism. And just, you know, across studies and largely in the United States, I think you could question whether this applies to Holland or UK or Japan, where there's less inequality, I might add.”
2023-02-06 · The Diary of a CEO · The "Happy Life" Scientist: How To FINALLY Beat Stress, Worry & Uncertainty! Dacher Keltner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I would say yes, and I'm sorry to say that. I got interested in social class actually living in England. You know, I lived in England in 1978. And United States is very blind to social class. We're now more aware of it, Bernie Sanders, et cetera, rightfully so, 1% critique.”
2023-02-06 · The Diary of a CEO · The "Happy Life" Scientist: How To FINALLY Beat Stress, Worry & Uncertainty! Dacher Keltner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No, but yeah, but I grew up around a mom who, you know, she taught women's literature and feminism in the 70s and that early feminist critique of marriage is right. You know, early on, women did a lot of the work. It constrained them. It cost them in terms of job mobility. And so I've always questioned it. And then I think the evolutionary literature we talked about is like, wait a minute, maybe love is more distributed. It comes in many varieties. And that's how we get this love work done. So I'm glad you guys are questioning it. Seriously.”
2023-02-06 · The Diary of a CEO · The "Happy Life" Scientist: How To FINALLY Beat Stress, Worry & Uncertainty! Dacher Keltner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You know, really structured around that, and maybe that's poor design. It doesn't seem to fit our evolutionary past of being in these, you know, these collectives that are sharing in the raising of offspring and sharing to a certain extent in romantic partnership.”
2023-02-06 · The Diary of a CEO · The "Happy Life" Scientist: How To FINALLY Beat Stress, Worry & Uncertainty! Dacher Keltner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah. And, you know, I grew up raised around hippies. You know, my parents were counterculture. I grew up in Laurel Canyon in the late 60s, very wild place. And I saw a lot of this as a young kid. And it was comical. You know, it's like you're fighting over the dishes and I don't get to sleep with my wife tonight. That's... He gets what my roommate does. Ah, you know, it's hard. And a lot of things get in the way. I think that, you know, forgive me, but, you know, I think of the U.S. and how much of United States culture is designed around, you know, the nuclear monogamous family. Of single homes, suburbs, driving in a car.”
2023-02-06 · The Diary of a CEO · The "Happy Life" Scientist: How To FINALLY Beat Stress, Worry & Uncertainty! Dacher Keltner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT