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  1. “That song's a no-go. You say, and I would genuinely, there was a time he said it, and it was about a song that I really felt it and meant it when I said it. But he didn't believe it when he heard it. And that was enough for us. I was like, man, well, at the end of the day, I can believe it all I want. But if the listener doesn't feel the honesty in it, just like we were talking about earlier, I think the most important ingredient is, is this truth, perceived as truth to someone else? And if it's not, the bullshit indicator goes and you're like, I don't care. I don't throw it away. I don't care about it.”

    2022-05-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #290 – Dan Reynolds: Imagine Dragons · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  2. “Yeah, I try to put out the songs that make me feel. Most. Like, I feel that. That's my only gauge because it's so subjective of what is good, what's the nobody knows the song the masses are going to like nobody knows that formula nobody knows it so for me it's always what makes me feel something one of the main lessons rick rubin taught me when we worked with him on this record was he would say he would his his his his his his his his his his his main point that he would continually bring up went like because he's not he's not the type of person to be like that's a bad song or that's good it's just not who rick rubin is it's more like there's more nuance to it he would say I don't really believe you on that song. That's what he would say. He would say. And I knew that was like.”

    2022-05-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #290 – Dan Reynolds: Imagine Dragons · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  3. “Majority of what we honestly may be, our best stuff is that we don't put out, for instance, because our band is such Such a complex question. I really don't know, actually. I don't know. Maybe one day I'll die and people will look and be like, I hated Imagine Dragons, but now I listen to that song. I really like that. Wish they would have put that out. Or maybe they'll be like, oh, it all sounds like shit. I don't really know.”

    2022-05-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #290 – Dan Reynolds: Imagine Dragons · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  4. “I haven't begun that journey. I feel like I'm just starting that. But that being said. I certainly don't know the right answer to what songs are beloved or good to the masses. Like imagine Dragons is such a massive entity. It's like there have been, I will say this, there are a couple times where I've fought really hard to decide on the single. Really hard. Or I always fight for what goes on on the record, always. I always put the record together. And that's the record that I wanted to be and me and the guys come up with that. And it's nobody else has influence, no manager, no label. The single, everybody wants to have a say in. Your label wants to have a say in it. Your manager wants to have a say in it. And I have fought really hard over that. And I've been wrong before and I've been right before. But as far as songs that I haven't put out, I mean...”

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  5. “I think Greatness is something that I feel I don't feel like I've achieved greatness genuine. I'm not saying that to you in a way of like humility. Thank you Michael Jordan. I feel like I am on a journey right now to find who I am. And I'm 34 and it's like”

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  6. “I certainly do a lot more with it after with the band pulled all apart, but it's a song. It'll be like, you know, it's, you'll listen to it and say, okay, that was a song. I get. You understand what it is for sure.”

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  7. “I could open my computer for you right now and I would show you hundreds and hundreds of songs that you would listen to and think that sounds like a song. It's like there's rhythm, there's melody, there's multiple instruments, there's lyrics. It's the same thing as for coding for me, which is music, which is I can't walk away until I've completed it.”

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  8. “Cathartic. That's the word I was. It feels like. Having a good moment with the therapist where you're like, okay, I'm expressing this thing that I just need to express. For whatever reason, I need to express this. The majority of the songs I write for the record are never heard. I write over a hundred songs a year. I release twenty songs every three years. So I don't know what's that percent, 20 out of 300. Come on, Lex. It's less than 10%.”

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  9. “With no theme in mind, I'm never for better or for worse, just my process is I'm sitting down and I'm writing a journal entry. Simple as that. It's like when you sit down to write a journal entry, are you sitting down and you're like, Kev, I've had all these words here that I'm going to put on the page and I'm going to order it in this way. My theme for my journal entry today is going to be this. Maybe some people do, but I don't. My journal entry is, I don't know what I'm going to say. How is today? Well, man, today was this. Filling this. And now that I think about that, I'm really angry about that. That hurt my feelings when this you're formulating it as you go. And that's the joy of it. And for me, that's what music is. So I'll sit down, not thinking, hey, I've been wanting to write a song that has a hard beat or I've been wanting to write a song that's anthemic or I've been wanting to write a song that's like, how am I feeling right now?”

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  10. “A little bit, or lyrics, it will be words to begin with, like a word here and there. Like, I'll be like, you know, I'm like, what's a word that I'm thinking of when I'm feeling this soundscape? And I always create.”

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  11. “No, it's kind of just, I never think opening. I never think final. I think soundscape of how I'm feeling right now. So it could be the middle of the song for all I know when I'm doing that. But my process for me is very much lyrics and melody and music really come at the same time. By the same time, I mean, I'm. As I'm expressing maybe, you know, I'm feeling like it's not that simple, but it's like I'll hear it. Like, it's like, here's all the orchestra and you're kind of just pressing all the buttons at once. And Melody in my voice is just one of those instruments. You know what I mean? It's just utilizing one instrument.”

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  12. “Yeah, and I think having kids is not for everyone, absolutely for sure. But for me, and especially you shouldn't be having kids to give yourself a reason to live. I feel like dying. I'm going to have a kid. You might feel more like dying after having a kid, actually.”

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  13. “Just words, and I wish there were better words to formulate the thought that I'm trying to express, but just more. Like the thought of me dying for me, I don't fear it. I don't fear it. Actually, I really fear not seeing my kids again. I'll say that. That is fearful for me. I feel like I love so deeply these children that the thought of leaving them for me is a scary thought or something.”

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  14. “In the best way I know how, and that's it. So, yeah, I mean, it's a basic comment concept that's been said a million times over in a million different ways, but that's pretty much what I was trying to say with believer, which is like I've lost faith in everything at that time period. Or previous to that time period, and then I was rebuilding my faith or my spiritual thought process. And it was after ayahuasca and it was like. Finding being a believer and that's not necessarily like a believer in God or a believer in heaven and hell or anything like that, but a believer in more. Believing in goodness, believing in that there is some light. And again, those words like”

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  15. “Yeah, I mean, It's exactly what we're talking about with therapy. I just feel like the greatest things in my life have Come from the deepest hurt, like losing someone, you know, that you love is maybe the hardest part of the human path for me, at least thus far. When I think of, okay, what was the hardest thing? There's like, okay, you know, there's like, you think of physical pain or maybe like going through financial pain or whatever. I think losing someone that you really love to death is one of the hardest. For me, I would say it was the hardest, but it also makes you look at your life completely differently and alter your life, at least for me in ways that were really healthy. Being more present, letting go of things that were meaningless, trying to control what other people think about you, like wasting your time on things like that. And you suddenly see like, wow, like time. I got small amount of time. Like, how do I want to spend it? I'm going to spend it.”

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  16. “And he's he said, Well, basically his belief was that ayahuasca was like basically doing therapy like 50 sessions. He was like, it's like really intensive. He's like. I don't know if you want to do that. If you do, you can make some big steps forward. But I prefer just to do one session at a time. And so yeah, it's hard work. And I typically like, it's really hard for me to even talk about ayahuasca, by the way, going back to that because I'm not looking to tell everybody to go to ayahuasca. It's incredibly hard. It was the scariest experience of my entire life. It felt like I went to heaven, but it also felt like I went to the darkest, deepest hell that was Incredibly scary Incredibly scary”

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  17. “Yes. I had this incredible therapist who I told him when I was going to do ayahuasca. He was like, Jesus, you know, he had actually was a doctor before and a really well-educated studied person who had walked away from brain doctor. What's the word for that? Brain doctor. Neurologist.”

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  18. “I mean, I think it's obviously there's the common things you would think of, which is like, oh, I've been holding these things in, and I don't want to tell anybody. And then I tell this person, and oh, there's relief in that. But that's really not where the real work comes from. I think the real work is meeting with someone who is well versed and educated and understands. It's like coding. It really is. It's like someone who like, they listen to you and they're like, well, that was a trigger. And then this became this trigger. And you're probably every time you're hearing that, thinking of this thing that happened earlier in your life and they just will walk you through scenarios and maybe some of them aren't right, but some of them you'll be like, it'll resonate sometimes. You're like, wow, I am feeling that because of that. And that did happen. And maybe if I call my mom and say this to her, it will make me feel better. Hey, mom, this happened. It's like work. You put in work and you have hard conversations and do difficult things. And if so, if your therapy is not difficult, I actually think that's not good therapy.”

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  19. “And we really fell in love through that, which was like maybe that we're both on the wrong track. Let's figure this out. But before that happened, we went to a Scientologist therapist. That therapy consisted of what have you done wrong to Asia? And they would ask me that question over and over and over and over until I'm like thinking of the deepest, darkest things that were in the recesses of my mind. This was a therapist. This was marriage therapy. Anyway, I'm not going to get into that, but it was Scientology therapy. So that was a different thing. And then I went to therapy therapy. Like, no, not attached to any religion. And that was a really great experience for me. And since then, I've been through a couple different therapists, but that was more because where I was and moving and things like that. So is it that hard to find a great therapist? Probably not, but maybe don't go to your Mormon therapist person that's a college therapist. Or maybe that's the route for you.”

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  20. “Scientology therapist. I met my wife and she was Scientologist at the time, and she's not anymore. She's like, it's such a funny thing to look back on because we met, you know, I was like this Mormon missionary who had just got home from his mission and I met her and I was, she's a Scientologist. I was like, wow, that's bad shit crazy. Like that stuff's crazy. And she's like, what are you talking about? That's your crazy. You're a Mormon. That's bad shit crazy. And the two of us were like. Huh, maybe there's something to this to both of us here.”

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  21. “It is actually pretty hard, I think. Going back to the beginning of my therapy was with a Mormon therapist. So it was very much like, well, are you reading your book of Mormon? And are you praying at night? You know what I mean? Like that was a big focus of my therapy to begin with.”

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  22. “Really did not want to admit, and none of them went to therapy. So it was like, what are you going to be? Oh, you're broken? Are you like the weak one who can't hack life? And I think that's incredibly dangerous. And I feel like it almost cost me my life because I took so long to finally go to therapy. So I really want kids to know, hey, like the great people that achieve great things that are doing amazing things, they probably have help, almost all of them.”

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  23. “Who doesn't have to go to a therapist because Lex is stronger, so be strong like Lex. You know, I would like to look at all my older brothers and I looked up to them so much and there were all these incredibly successful people. Plastic surgeon, anesthesiologist, the dentist, two attorneys, Stanford, NYU, like just like incredible high standards Eagle Scouts, you know, like Valedictorians, like they just did it all. So for me. I was very”

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  24. “I really think that in the winter, I'm pretty sure I've had a lot of, I've seen a lot of therapists and all of them say the same thing, which is like, you have major depressive disorder, and this is what it is, but it's certainly worse for me in the winter months. So I know there's like, I can't think of the term for it, but there's a term for seasonal depression. There it is. So I'll get to the winter and suddenly I'm like, geez, everything really sucks on a deeper level. And then, you know, so it's like this too shall pass is another thing. It's like just practice those things, absolutely see a therapist. That's my big, like my biggest emphasis of life is to like on stage, like my goal, like I have a few things that I really, really care about. One is mental health, health, and destigmatizing therapy. Because for me, I didn't go to therapy for a long time because I felt that it would be admitting that I was broken. It'd be admitting that I was weaker than Leck.”

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  25. “Clean living. Yeah, clean living, but also understanding that sometimes it's just, it just is and you just keep breathing and it will get better with time”

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  26. “Judging anybody for that, and I still drink on occasion, but I felt like alcohol has been very unhelpful to my mental state. Feel less drive and less happiness the next day for things that I want to do. I feel like it plays a lot with your serotonin.”

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  27. “So, what I have found to be most successful for me. It's back to the basics of everything that the therapist or psychologist will tell you, psychiatrist will tell you, right when you meet them, which is exercise every day. Eat healthy for sure, find time make time every day to do something that you love. Whatever that may be, whatever brings you joy. And you might, and when you're really depressed, that actually feels like nothing. Because the things that brought you joy don't bring you joy anymore. When I'm really in the thick of it. But for me, this is the cycle that I'll go through is I'll look at my life and I'll say, okay, what can I clean up? All right. Well, for me, it was cutting out alcohol actually helped me a lot. I know that sounds like a big, I'm not like.”

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  28. “Know you could say something actually profound and nice, and they'd be like, That's stupid, and you're an idiot because it's like an actual attempt to like show you how much they don't care. So you live in this very...”

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  29. “And it sucks. So then you're seeking out people who that it doesn't exist with. And family is the closest you can get to that for sure. But even your family's, it's going to take a little bit where they're like, oh, this is a little weird. Like all my friends at work are now asking about you and you're my young stupid brother, but now you're suddenly like the young stupid brother that they want an autograph from and stuff. And it still makes like they have to get over that and figure that out. And then you meet people too who know about this whole concept and they're like, well, I'm going to be an asshole to him to show him that I don't subscribe and you're dealing with like people who are like dumpster fire and the person who's like.”

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  30. “And you could be like dumpster fire, and everybody's like, Oh my gosh, dumpster fire! That was amazing how you said dumpster fire was amazing. It's like it's incredibly Incredibly lonely. And it just breaks everything that you knew about. Humanness”

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  31. “But it got really, really weird really quick because suddenly you've existed your whole life in this way where everybody just, everything you get you achieved, it was because you got it. And every conversation you had, like if someone liked you at the end of that conversation, well, it's because they liked you. If they didn't like you, it's because they didn't like you. And you can make complete peace with that. At least I could my whole life. I was like, life is a challenge. And be myself and I'm going to go through it and find some people along the way that I connect with and others know. And that social integrity is so important to us. And we think it would be nice to have this. And this is going back to the pitfalls of fame. We think it would be nice to walk into a room and have everyone be like.”

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  32. “Why he says H Charlie Shane, but it was, it was really wise. I was sitting next to him and we were playing some late night television. He said, this was right at the beginning. And he just said, boys, just mark my words. Your life is about to get really weird. That's all I said. But it stuck with me forever. It's Charlie Sheen's. Of course, it sticks with you. And I remember being like, right, okay, Charlie Sheen, I'm not Charlie Sheen. It's not going to get weird, like, you know.”

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  33. “Yeah, you know, I'm fortunate to have my manager who's my brother, my older brother, and my lawyer is my other older brother. And that's been helpful because it's weird. It gets weird with everyone no matter what. One of the best advice I was given was by Charlie Sheen.”

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  34. “Yeah, and also feeling like it's never enough. I think that's something all he like. It's not just a famous thing, but it's like in the whole, like everybody deals with feeling like when I'm here, I'll be happy. Get that job, I'll be happy. When I have that money, then I'll be happy. When I get that surgery and my nose looks like this, I will be happy then. It's like a constant chase of happiness instead of Happiness. It's like the opposite. It's opposite of self love. It's the opposite of happiness. There's no presence to it. You're never going to find it. You're never going to arrive and you're just going to live your life and then you're going to be on your deathbed and be like, I was chasing the wrong thing my whole life, you know?”

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  35. “Anyway, I'm going on a different tangent here. But long story short, there's a lot of things that are really unhealthy about it. And then a lot of people who want the fame, then the second it starts to go away. Then they're like, who am I anymore? Like that was everything. And now I'm like on the down and now I'm not a famous person anymore. And now I hate myself. Now I'm going to do drugs. And it's like, it's like this vicious cycle. Like you could never be famous enough. You're always going to get like there's just so much to it that I've just and again like I've lost friends in this career to that for sure.”

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  36. “These famous people, and they get to where they were because they know how to do that. They know how to be in a room with someone and look them in the eye and make them feel like they're the only person in the room. And then now they got that role in that movie because they sat with the casting director and they were like, oh, you're so funny. Anybody put on the charisma, do it all. And it's like,”

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  37. “I wanted to just be the goofball that I have been my whole life with my brothers and family, but suddenly I found myself feeling like, no, I have to be this, like, because that's who this is. So you're almost like playing a role. And it's like, I've heard a lot of actors talk about this where they'll take on a role and then it's like they feel like they have to, they like become that. And it's a really scary thing. You alter who you are almost to fit the notion of other people. Because especially if a lot of artists are empaths. A lot of people get into art in a deep way or empathy. And you're never wanting to burden people and you're always wanting to deliver to that person. What they want is like people pleasing goes hand in hand with a lot of like.”

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  38. “But anybody who meets you, that's who you are to them. And you may not feel this way, but you may feel confined to actually have to be that person to that person. Like I, early in my career for a long time, anytime I met someone, I suddenly felt like I had to be Dan Reynolds from Imagine Dragons anytime I met someone, including my family now, who were also like, whoa, this is crazy. You're like Dan Reynolds from Imagine Dragons.”

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  39. “No, yeah. So I will tell you, according to me what the pitfalls are, whether it's pure or not, and there are certainly some pitfalls. One, once you're there, you can't go back Whatever. Maybe that's fine because maybe you love it. But the real pitfall for me is that. You're lex and you're what everybody's perception is that Lex is. And that's what you are. Now, Lex is probably a lot more complex and complicated and has a lot more to Lex than the Lex that is the celebrity.”

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  40. “Yeah, I mean, it's such a funny thing because, okay, if you had asked if we were having this conversation a couple years ago, I'd be incredibly guarded about this because The last thing I want to ever do is sound ungrateful or unaware of how much I have and woe is the famous celebrity with money. Woe is your life hard. Is it really telling me about how hard it is? But I'm also at a place in life now where I just like I'm going to always just speak my truth because that's the only reason I'm here is I'm here to speak my truth to you so I'm gonna tell you my truth whether it's whatever it is”

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  41. “Always worries and always reach out to me. He's like, musicians die all the time. The reason they die, you know, is because you're getting on stage and your heart's doing this and your cortisone levels are doing this. You're getting off stage and then you're just doing this. And it's a really real thing. You get off stage and you feel like you need drugs because you're like, the world feels like Oh, incredibly daunting, and it also, I'm sure, has to do with some health things in your heart and the cortisone levels that are so crazy and then you come off. And it's like. I know people are like, well, then nothing's enough except method's enough except heroin. And that's why a lot of artists turn to that stuff. And I don't say it in a preacher, I don't say it in a preacher way. Like I've struggled with drug abuse in my life.”

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  42. “You're hearing Tracy Chapman saying like fast car or something, you're just like, Oh my gosh, like, yes, I get it. And you feel connected that person, you don't feel alone. So that's the high of it for sure. And then you get off stage and then, you know. My uncle's a heart surgeon, incredible heart surgeon who writes the book. Like he's like the guy that the heart surgeons talk to. He's out of Nashville, Tennessee. He's just incredible, genius man.”

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  43. “It's like one big hug. Yeah, it's like everybody in that room gets it, and they all like it just. It feels like what you want the world to be, which is just like this coexisting unit of people and is not even about like, you know, I just, it's incredible. It'sn't for sure. It's incredible. And I love it and I wouldn't do it unless I loved it. And then you walk off stage and you turn on the news, and it's like you see, we're all against each other, everybody hates each other. And if it feels that way in the world. So music really. That's why live music is so important to people. That's why music is so important to people. Because even if it's just you and that person that wrote the song, you're listening to it and the two of you feel connected. You know, it's like”

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  44. “High of it It's incredibly beautiful to walk on a stage, sing these songs that you wrote. And see it resonate with people around you and sing with them. Different cultures, different places, celebrate life, it's suddenly the world seems like a fantastic place. It feels like we're all on the same team.”

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  45. “I like to be at home with a couple friends and have a late night conversation over good food. Like, that, to me, is a perfect night. Read a good book. Listen to a podcast. Go on a walk, you know, those are things that I really, really enjoy. And suddenly I'm in this life where I'm like supposed to be something that I really don't want to be. Except for on stage, which is a really fascinating strange thing to me, which is on stage, I feel so free and exuberant and extrovert. And then I come off and I just feel like shrivel back into a show. Like it's, music does that for me and performing on a stage does that for me”

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  46. “It was. I was incredibly depressed. I had been trying different medications, and since I was young, and I just had not found anything that was working for me. And then I was in a faith crisis, lost all my faith, started a band that just became, I wasn't ever thinking that this band. I was like, when you call your band Imagine Dragons, you're not thinking that band's going to be pig, okay? It was like, I was like, this was like a side project that was fun for me. It was like art in college. I was in school and I was like, man, I hate this biology class. I'm going to write down band names. Like, you know what I mean? It was not, hey, put everything aside. This is my career. Let's go. Like it just, it happened. And I'm an introvert by nature. I'm really not an extroverted person who likes to go out and like.”

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  47. “Genuine engine went out plane is going down pilots looking like crazy in the front and it was a really tiny jet. And like I said, my brother next to me crying, typing a text to his wife. Really, really scary. And I felt nothing. I genuinely sat there and I was like. Might actually be nice. Like, I really felt like. This goes down and like. Ah, man, life sucks is hard. And that sounds so ridiculous, I know, to say, because again, I like I'm in a different place now and I see my life for what it is. But at that moment, I did not.”

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  48. “And to that That actually has been a real struggle for me for many years. I had a real turning point early in my career where We were flying somewhere overseas and we were in a really small plane and the lights went out in like all these red lights were flashing and the plane just started to dive. Completely like scariest plane experience I've ever been in. My manager was next to me, who's my brother. He was crying and texting his wife a goodbye. That's how crazy this moment was”

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  49. “Well, the simple answer right now is to say it's very easy once you have kids to say the right answer is you just, of course, you brought these kids into the world so you have a responsibility that I feel deeply as a father to them to always be there for as long as I humanly can and to take care of them and protect them. It's the most innate sense in me. It's wired in my animal, my animal existence. So if I take that away, right? Because that's kind of cheating.”

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  50. “Let me relax sit back. Let me show you. But it was very clear to me what was being said. And no, it did not feel like me. But maybe smarter people than me who've done it would say, well, it was you and blah, blah, blah. I don't know. Well, yeah, very convincing.”

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