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  1. “How do you explain to someone that you felt like a multiple dimension type thing happened in a way that putting it into words is, and none of it was words, by the way, that was communicated to me. It was like, you know, people talk about telepathy and if it existed, it would be like, I could communicate to you in such a deeper way. I'm so confined by me having to articulate these words and put them in a sentence to you, Lex, and then tell you, like, if only I could just be like, And emotions do that sometimes, right? You could see my emotions and be like, oh, that communicates a lot. So that's what it felt like to me with ayahuasca is it felt like it was communicating to me very clear things, but it wasn't like, Daniel, it's me. Mother Earth”

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  2. “Really, I do not believe, at least in my current self, I don't have that the mindfulness that I believe that exists in me to reach a lot of the conclusions that I did. And there was a lot more to it that would be for like a late night conversation with you. But it's so hard to put it into. Feel like a crazy person, any at least anytime I talk about ayahuasca to someone who hasn't done it, I'm like, I don't even know where to begin.”

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  3. “Falsehoods. And that, I felt like the bedrock of everything I believed was ripped out for me in my 20s. And then it was like, good luck in life. But really my parents had given me everything that they could. And they believe that very much so still. But a naive young me was angry and felt like they had been duped, and thus I had been duped. But ayahuasca really showed me this roadmap of like this is truth and you're concerning yourself about a grain of sand, which is Mormonism or whatever it is. And there may be some truth in that tiny grain of sand, and there may be falsities, but so is all these other grains of sand. Like, focus on the truth. Stop focusing on these little details that are meaningless and forgive and let go of people believing in those things to begin with. I don't know if that makes sense, but that was like the core thing I was.”

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  4. “I walked away feeling very convinced that. There is more to be known, for sure, and a lot of my deep things that were dramatic for me didn't feel traumatic anymore, specifically crisis of faith. I was very angry at my parents and my community for raising me in what I perceived to be.”

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  5. “And I'm communicating with something that feels incredibly wise. Showed me a lot of things in my life, kind of almost like from a bird's eye, almost like I was looking through a video camera at a younger me. There was a particular thing that it communicated to me. I really have a hard time with accepting success and not feeling. Feeling undeserving, or something. I can't quite put it into words, but of my position and what I've been given, I've been given so much It showed me this thing from when I was young and explained to me why I am where I am now. And I to this day, it did not feel like myself telling myself that. That's the only way I can explain it. And there was a lot more that it showed me and that was incredibly healing for me. But just to be To put it into a short thing because there's so much to this.”

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  6. “Anything that's really extreme, and it was very extreme. It was like the curtain of life was cut open, which scared me, but then I felt very much, and a lot of people that I talked to have a similar thing where I felt very much like I was either communicating with or Something that was perceived as God to me or highest sense of self or mind or mother earth or you know it's called so many different names but it's really it's very A lot of people have a very spiritual similar experience with ayahuasca. And just in that it's like this kind of profoundness. It wasn't like there was nothing, at least for me, that was. That felt like just like psychedelic funny cartoons or something. It was like”

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  7. “About four hours. Yeah, so the second time I took it, I took. Took it in, I would say, 20, 30 minutes, and exactly. I started to feel like I was like the dimension of what is reality. The curtain was pulled open and there was a lot more to discover. And it really blew my mind in a way that I think it would probably blow anybody's mind if, for instance, God descended or some Christian god or whatever it is. We all think it'd be this beautiful thing, but in reality it would probably make people super fearful and think that they've lost their mind. Like, I've always, yeah. I've always joked that if the Mormon God came down and told my mom, like, If God Himself came down and told my mom, Mormonism is incorrect, she would say, Satan. I think our minds are just not prepared for a lot of uh.”

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  8. “Psychedelics Anyway, that being said, so I had that trepidation going into it, but I really love and respect my wife, and I saw it make a profound impact in her life where she suddenly was able to heal from a lot of trauma that she had. She had a really, she went through a lot in her life. And it really helped her heal. But it also set her in a new path spiritually that seemed really like a place that I wanted to be. So I did it. And I did it twice. The first time it didn't really have an effect on me, which happens to a lot of people, I guess. I drank, you know, this little thing and there was like this shaman who came over from overseas that was really, had been in the plant, you know, world for decades and was a really incredible. I don't even know if he likes to be called shaman, but.”

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  9. “Yeah, and it wasn't a strange, like, I think most we have a thing in America that's like a misconception, a stigma on psychedelics where it's like, it's a drug and it makes some people crazy. And then you're going to be on the street and you're going to be out of your mind or you're going to become like. You know, a crazy person basically. And I think I really bought into that notion because, again, I was raised, I wasn't even raised with cable TV. You know what I mean? Like ayahuasca is very, I didn't, you know, you can imagine what that was like for a Mormon kid. I didn't know anything about it and never touched drugs at all and never even touched a cigarette, you know. Anyway, so I think we have this misconception about it where Americans are quick to go to their doctor and take any medication or drug. Whoa, when it comes to like.”

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  10. “I'll first say that I can't even smoke weed. I really do not enjoy it because I hate to let go of control. If I feel out of control in life, it's like one of my biggest weaknesses. It's like very scary for me. And some people really enjoy letting go in that way. I really don't. So I was pretty terrified to make the jump then to ayahuasca. My wife who I deeply respect Made a profound change through ayahuasca. And I saw it.”

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  11. “You know, I will say the closest I feel like I have been to experiencing God is, and this sounds so I don't know. I don't know how it sounds, but it's through ayahuasca for me. That's my honest answer for you. I feel like I had pretty much given up all hope of there being anything greater than Us being evolving and being here and then dying and you're gone and that's it and nothingness and from nothingness we came and nothingness we go to where I am now which is there are answers to be found I don't know them like I don't know what God looks like or if God is anything to do with the word God in the way that we say it but I do believe pretty fervently that there is more to be found”

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  12. “Yeah, I would say that the seeking of God, let's say that, is an obsession for me and has been since I was young. I really feel that I'm a deep, deep, deeply committed. To finding answers in life. And there's some answers that I don't think there's an answer to. And I'm also very OCD by nature, so I just don't give up to that. I'm like, well, there must be somewhere in Tibet. There's some teacher or there's somebody out there that has the answer. Or maybe it's yet to be found. I'm going to find it. I'm really, my life has been to date probably unhealthily committed to finding answers about God or the lack thereof and mortality. It's all I sing about. It's all our records have been about”

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  13. “I have friends who've lost all their money to gambling addiction. And so it's like the Yes, somebody maybe needs to make, maybe that's an open spot, there needs to be the dark side to Vegas. Drug overdose or getting shot by the mob.”

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  14. “Right, it's not like I guess what I would say is there's no truth that has been that I've seen of Vegas because what I see of Vegas is There's obviously the parties and stuff in the nightlife, which I'm not a big party person, so I haven't really experienced much of that. But there's also drugs and I have a strange relationship with drugs because I've lost a few friends to drug overdoses. And so I don't, that's not romantic to me. But there's also like... Yeah, I mean, you asked for a dark reflection of it. I guess I certainly see a dark reflection to Vegas. And I feel like Vegas is typically personified as like at the tables and everything's this, but it's also like.”

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  15. “Think that's maybe the only one I thought of that came to mind where I was like, because I love Chevy Chase so much that maybe it's one of his Vegas vacation or something”

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  16. “No, no, I just can't think of any movie that comes to mind where I'm like, that's my Vegas movie. You know what I mean? Like I'm sure I've seen some of the movies you said now, but I can't think of one that I'm like. Actually, personifies Vegas in a way that feels honest to me. Wasn't there a Chevy chase? Was there a Chevy Chase?”

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  17. “I also wasn't even allowed to watch PG-13 movies growing up. So a lot of the movies that you're saying, I either didn't see, I didn't have cable television. I wasn't like a pilgrim, but I had a really, really conservative upbringing.”

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  18. “So I saw, and I'm grateful for that. Like, I really love that I didn't grow up as a Mormon influence, like Utah or something, like the typical place, because I saw both sides and I appreciated something from both sides. And now as a person now who's not religious, but just spiritually minded. I'm grateful for that divergent character, that juxtaposition, dual-edged sword, that Vegas is. And I try to apply that to everything in life, which is like Johnny Depp and Amber. It's like there's two sides to every story. There's always two sides to every coin. There's always, and there's something to be said for both. Like I try to see people and. Even if it's just, yeah, I try to apply that to life. As far as a movie that personifies Vegas or something and that medium that personifies Vegas in a way that Resonates with me”

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  19. “So I grew up in a really conservative Mormon family. And Vegas was established by the Mormons and the mob. Those were like the two very different worlds that created what Vegas is. And if you live in Vegas, It really shows in a lot of ways because Vegas has the strip and the parties and the craziness, but it also has very neighborhoods and big families and conservative people and liberal people living together in a really interesting way. And for me, Growing up here, for instance, was a lot of like driving on the freeway, my mom being like, children, close your eyes. There's a naked woman on that billboard. And everything. Okay, mom, on our way to church. You know what I mean? It was like, but also being like, whoa, this is crazy. You know what I mean? Taking in whatever I could when I could.”

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  20. “And for the record, I don't feel like it shouldn't be shown. I think it's actually really beautiful art. And I agree there's going to be a lot of people who walk away from it and are changed in certain ways or look at things different. I'm not saying it's changing the whole world, the Johnny Dev trial, but it's art. It's just like you would look at a painting and it might affect you. My only commentary is more that there's not, I think it's silly when people say who's right and who's wrong and who's the clear villain and who's the, like we love as humans, we have to have an answer for everything. We have to put everything in a box. And it's like, well, we're looking at this and we're deciding you're right and you're wrong. And I just think it's silly unless it's your life.”

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  21. “Oh, that's the hardest part. He won't even look at her. He looks down the whole time. And maybe people say, well, it's because anger or hurt or whatever. But the way she looks and stuff, it feels, it just feels like there's so much hurt there. That it hurts me to watch it. I just feel like, oh, my heart just aches for them. And for both of them, and I don't know either of them personally. And, you know, I don't know, just hurts.”

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  22. “He's just, you really love him. And I feel like, and maybe I'm wrong on this, but it looks like the internet has really been like Johnny is the winner. Amber is the villain. And I kind of look at it. Yeah, and I kind of look at it and I feel like. Were any of you in their bedroom? Like, were any of you there for these things? And I'm not saying one way or the other. Like all I see when I look at that is two people with a lot of deep seated hurt, anger. And that anger is so poisonous to both of them. And they're getting through it in the way that they only know how. I'm not saying we shouldn't be able to look at parts of it and laugh about it and stuff and be virtuous or something. Just that there's not a hero. Complicated. Yeah. I think unless you're Doesn't mean that their truth is the truth”

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  23. “You know, the truth is, I was telling my wife this actually just the other day because she was asking me what I thought about it. It makes me really sad. It's humorous, don't get me wrong. There's a lot of parts in it that are just really funny. I look at it and I also see the internet, you know, someone's always the villain and someone's the hero, which is such a funny thing. And we talked a little about this offline before we got on this, but I have a real firm belief in life that it's just more complex than you think, always, always. And Johnny, for instance, is very charismatic. And you love him and he's funny and the way he does things and he looks certain ways and he says things.”

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  24. “Not loving himself and feeling like he's deserving of this person. Like, I have to let you go. I hear that, of course, and people say, oh, well, he's breaking up with her. But there's so much more complexity and nuance to relationships than that. My wife and I went through really difficult separation. And that's a story for another day or different question or something, but the nuance of it makes me think of this when I hear this, which is. There's just more to being with someone or not being with someone than, hey, I think that person's really attractive or hey, that person makes me laugh or not. Or I love them and now I don't love them. Love is such a complex, nuanced thing that a lot of times there's just more going on behind the scenes, I think.”

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  25. “Yeah, he does. And if you really have been some incredible documentation on his life and the end of his life and So, my answer to this is probably skewed based on what I've seen about his life, too. But he was a real alcoholic at the end of his life, and it destroyed his voice. And ended up killing him as well. And so when I hear that, I perceive it as. Someone who is destructive and in a destructive place in life and can't love someone properly. And so they can't live with them, but they can't live without them type thing, which is really something I really identify with and I think. One of the struggles of life is loving yourself enough. Forgiving yourself for things and letting yourself love someone else. And at least when I listen to that, I hear Harry being like, and maybe I'm wrong, but this is how I perceive it at least is.”

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  26. “But it's also how the person says it, right? It's It's the feeling of exactly, and the same person could say that word 10 other ways and you don't care. But someone says glycerine or whatever it is. And it's like Oh, you know what? I feel that for some way he said that he meant it to me. You know what I mean?”

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  27. “Interesting to you, and I feel like a lot of the time I'm not saying that it's, of course, sonically, maybe it's uninteresting to you, but I think the majority of the time for myself, I can find inspiration in any sonic value or painting as long as I see it and I feel truth from the person that created it.”

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  28. “Yeah, and that's what I think it is, and that's why an actor, like I said, can be completely honest to me. Maybe they didn't write the script, but I write, like, I've always written all my own lyrics. It's a really personal thing to me. But I will say I see people all the time who are performers like Who didn't write the lyrics that I believe that it means just as much to them as what I wrote? Because they find the meaning in it for themselves. At least the greats do. And I think that's the difference maker. And I think you can perceive, and I'm sure you've seen art that doesn't move you, and maybe it moves someone else. But for you, for some reason, you perceive it to be...”

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  29. “That for me is what is good art or bad. For people to dispute over, like, well, sonics should sound like that's silly to me. It's like a song or even a painting. It's just the truthfulness of it.”

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  30. “I just believe it. He sings that, and I feel it. And whether he's the greatest bullshit or of all time, or I don't think that's the case, I think he probably was seeing that song and he just could transport himself to wherever he was. What makes a great live act? It's what makes a great song. And someone could be the best actor and sing that in the same timber, same EQ, same compression, same everything, and there's some unknown there that I, you know, I don't, I think hopefully it will be known at some point. It's some scientific thing, but there's something there that the energy or something that people can perceive it and say. True or false, and if it resonates as true, it's so much more meaningful and it lives on, and if it doesn't,”

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  31. “Music, in my opinion, whenever I meet a young artist and say, Well, let's, I'm trying to make a new band and I want to do something like how to be successful. I really think Understanding that people have a really good bullshit indicator is the most important part of being an artist. And I'll explain what that means, at least to me. I think that in order to have success or be a leader or whether it's an art or anything, people need to believe that you believe what you're doing. I think the best actors really, when they're doing their thing, it's like they, it's not acting. They're in it, and it's how they feel and they're expressing that sorrow or joy or whatever it is. Harry for me, Harry Nilsen.”

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  32. “There's something I don't even want to talk over him because this is one of my favorite songs too Think people have a really good indicator.”

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  33. “Was angst, you know, it was like angstiness That in hip hop of the nineties influences me and then my dad. So anything my dad listened to, which my dad didn't listen to any of that, my dad listened to like Harry Nelson, the Beatles, Kat Stevens, Bob Dylan, Paul Simon, Billy Joel. It was very much like singer-songwriter.”

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  34. “And it had a lot of women of the 90s is probably my biggest influence. Kind of that like angry rock women of the 90s like Lannis Morset, jagged little pill is one of my favorite records of all time. The lyrics were so intimate and, I don't know if she was angry or not. Sorry if she wasn't.”

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  35. “I guess. I don't know. I mean, it's certainly not something I subscribe to because I create music, but I also grew up listening to. Lot of different genres like cats, I would listen to Kat Stevens and the next song would be like Biggie and then the next song would be Nirvana and it was like I like a lot of and then Billy Joel and then Enya. It was like you know what I mean? I was a product and I was a product of the 90s which if you listen to 90s music it really was all a lot of reason that people say well 90s were terrible like a lot of people say that I love the 90s were my favorite decade of music Was there was a lot of Genre hopping. And I don't know, I love that.”

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  36. “And sometimes I go well, but a lot of times it doesn't. And people, you know, critics and everybody is like, go back to the thing that you did good and do that. Rick felt whether he was right or wrong that we could do, we hopped genres so much. And that's been to our benefit and detriment, I think. Because people want you to be something. It's more, you can believe it more. It's like”

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  37. “But anyway, so Rick's, and that's something I've learned to let go of as I've gotten older and had life experiences. But one of the things that Rick said really early on that has stuck with me was he said, yeah, you know, we were resuming the first time we met. He said, I'd really like to work with you because I feel like you're not confined to a sound. You've done a lot of different sounds. And so it's exciting because I feel like your fans are forgiving more than other rock bands or bands because most people, when they hear, you know, when they hear a band, it's like there's a very specific sound with it. It's like they do folk music. Oh, they do like California rock or they do surf or they do, you know, like there's, and your fans kind of want that. Like they want them to do that thing. And then they don't do it.”

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  38. “Rick was, you know, it was interesting to hear his outside opinion when we first met because My biggest focus for so much of my life, my biggest fear was, and this stems from, I think, middle schools when it started, but everyone being in on a joke except for yourself. I like the thought of... Thinking you're good at something and really you're terrible at it and you're surrounded by people who are saying, yeah, you're good at it and then by themselves are like he's terrible at this. Just kind of and not just in regards to music or art, but anything in life. And I think maybe from having six older brothers, it stems from that too, like always feeling. Inadequate and like the annoying younger brother.”

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  39. “I'm a happy, I guess what I'm trying to say is I'm a happy prisoner of the prison that I have created for myself and I made that prison thinking that it was a mansion.”

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  40. “You know, I think it's a rule. I mean, it's obviously a rule I impose on myself. Nobody's in my house saying, hey, Dan, if you don't do this, I'm going to punish you. There's no major label president that's like. Imagine Dragons needs to make pop music, Dan. You know what I mean? My manager doesn't even tell me that. I do it because it's what I perceive to be enjoyable. I grew up listening to a ton of pop music. And then I ended up being in what is quote unquote a rock band, which I've never perceived it as that. But that's kind of what the world has called it, and that's fine.”

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  41. “Fitting in a box always. You know, it's like this song shouldn't be longer than three minutes and 30 seconds. Know if I remember the chorus after I heard it. Maybe I need to hear the chorus three times instead of those two times. It's like there's certain, especially in pop music, it's really hard to Yeah, there's confines, even though people are like, well, there's no confines, but still everybody's writing a pop song that's a few minutes.”

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  42. “It's exactly the same thing for me just in that it's art. I really believe that we have not fully encapsulated artists when we say art, I think most people think, okay, the medium must be painting or drawing or music or writing. But I really believe anytime you're creating something, engineers. For instance, you're creating something with tools that you have, and it can be incredibly beautiful. And so, yeah, I think, and it's never done, I feel like I look at songs that I've done and I never felt. You have to let go, or I have to let go. And that's all I'm just continually making myself let go. But I look at songs that I've done and wish I had done more or kept going down that road and what would have happened. And I'm really contained to because of what our band is and what our fans expect. And there's so much more to it that it's like.”

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  43. “Yeah, I mean, I've been working over the last two years with actually a team out of Kiev on, and we can get into that. It's a whole nother story, but on a computer game and really have kept that kind of under wraps. We're kind of getting to a point now where we have a prototype that we can play and it's a lot of fun. And thankfully all the team members are in safe places now. Things have obviously been on hold for a little bit. But when that started is when I really decided, okay, I need to understand base level coding in C sharp. So I'm not an idiot talking to these people. And so we've been doing that for a couple years”

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  44. “There's something I really love completion. It's the reason that I'm addicted to songwriting. I like there being nothing and then having some blocks or tools and building them into what you want it to look like. And then I find it incredibly rewarding to. Stand back and look at what you did at the end. It could be anything for me. It's simple to begin with as just, you know, because it's object-oriented, like making a cube move. Simple as that. Understanding that and knowing that I built that and made it do that. Is really rewarding. And I think it's the thing that drew me into. To wanting to learn more. But as far as what is some grandiot, like some big piece of code that I've done, like absolutely not, it's more, I'm still a level where it's more like, what is a tutorial that I followed? And got, you know, and then, you know.”

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