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“Perfect example Mom and tennis shoes And she did one of the few pieces of real bipartisan legislation that we've seen in the last five years. She did it with Paul Ryan, but she worked really hard across party lines and she got it done.”
2017-06-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 159 - Dana Bash · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Exactly. 1984. Exactly. So the first governor, female governor New Hampshire, first female senator from New Hampshire. But one of the reasons I wanted her to talk to her is exactly that. She started out as a staffer and as a campaign aide and a strategist. And she jokes that she decided to run because all the men she was working for couldn't win. But she talks about the fact that in her experience she actually, another person who lost the first time she ran for the Senate, she went to the Harvard Institute of Politics and that her experience was that women, obviously this is a generalization, but women for the most part want to run because they want to actually accomplish something and get something done. There's something that really burned them up on a local level or something that they saw on a national level. And sometimes men just want to be senator.”
2017-06-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 159 - Dana Bash · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Like I was talking about with Ted Kennedy and the people who used to try to get things done across party lines. And so there's a lot of that. And look, women also just have different perspectives and come just like different people of various walks of life in a gender neutral way. The approach is different.”
2017-06-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 159 - Dana Bash · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I do think it would be different if half the members were women. I genuinely am not just saying this. I think that we probably would have more things that get done because, and just this is by example, the women who are there tend to, look, women are problem solvers. It's what we do. We multitask and we problem solve. You know, whether it's figuring out how to get your kid from point A to point B or creating policy as they are now for some of the most important parts of American society. And so it's seeing the way that Barbara Mikulski and Kay Belly Hutchison on the Republican side, she retired as well. Both of them started this dinner club in the Senate and they meet once a month off the record, no notes, a little bit of wine, and they get to know each other as people and so many pieces of bipartisan legislation have come from that because they get to know each other. It's old school.”
2017-06-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 159 - Dana Bash · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“She lost for governor. Yeah. And that's there's so many lessons from her discussion. But the key for me was actually how I ended the piece was her advice to younger women. You're going to get defeated. And you take defeat after defeat after defeat. You stand up, you brush yourself off, and you do it again.”
2017-06-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 159 - Dana Bash · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“She was the first woman president of the board of supervisors in San Francisco, which is a huge deal, then because of a double murder, she became the mayor, then became the first female mayor, and won in her own right for 10 years. She was there for 10 years, and then became the first woman elected from California to the United States. Woster.”
2017-06-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 159 - Dana Bash · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We decided to do it after Hillary Clinton lost, and I was having lunch with a couple of colleagues and talking about kind of the prospect for another female who could and would be in the running to be the party's nominee never mind actually winning the presidency. And I said, wait a minute, you guys, there's so many women who we cover every day who are already making incredible strides and broke barrier after barrier after barrier. And it just kind of, it took off from there. And so what I wanted to do was talk to a cross-section of women when it comes to their politics, generation, geography. And it was fascinating to actually spend time like you and I are doing now away from the 15 second sound bites and to really get to know their stories and where they came from and whether it's Diane Feinstein who has a”
2017-06-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 159 - Dana Bash · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Chairman of the Intelligence Committee, also not running for reelection, he just won, which kind of takes the shackles, the political shackles off of anybody. And I think even his Democratic colleagues are surprised at how seriously he's taking this. So, you know, where it goes and what the end result will be, who knows, but I think that's legit. The House is a mess. The House intelligence probe is a mess. Even though there are a lot of people who have really good intentions, it just, the whole the chairman Devin Nunez and the weird bizarre stuff that happened with him in the White House. And that just set that off. And I don't think there's really a way for it to come back.”
2017-06-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 159 - Dana Bash · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think the Senate Intelligence Committee is really genuinely committed in a bipartisan way. Richard Burt to this moment has stepped up in a way that, frankly, that...”
2017-06-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 159 - Dana Bash · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Everybody's first, certainly in this town, the first thing you do is you wake up and you look at the president's Twitter feed to see what the day is going to bring.”
2017-06-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 159 - Dana Bash · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And they have madness. Like. But there, by the way, but at the end of the day, this whole tweeting thing causes such heartburn. You can imagine you're a member of Congress, and you're walking through the hallways, and you're going to cast a vote on whatever issue it is that you said you wanted, and all the only thing that happens is you're asked by reporters about the latest tweet that the president sent. And it's not because we're obsessed with a random tweet. It's because it has consequential impact.”
2017-06-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 159 - Dana Bash · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes. But there is still a sliver of hope among even his sharpest Republican critics that on some issues, maybe not any domestic issues, frankly, but on some national security and international issues putting Russia aside, Iraq, Afghanistan, that they can still, that he's still a kind of a blank slate that they can help form.”
2017-06-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 159 - Dana Bash · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, anyway, he's on a cell phone all the time. I wonder if it's going to change now that his family is actually in the residence, but I'm not so sure, because he was kind of rattling around in the White House from 6 p.m. to 8 a.m. So he talks to people all the time, even people you would not suspect that he would talk to who he doesn't have a long, wonderful, warm history with. A lot of it, he does a lot of ruminating about do you think I should get rid of Ryan's Privus? Or do you think I should, what do you think I should do?”
2017-06-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 159 - Dana Bash · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Say publicly. He's incredibly communicative. He loves to be on that phone, on his cell phone, by the way, still. Did President Obama use his cell phone in the Oval Office? No.”
2017-06-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 159 - Dana Bash · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And like you said, it's hard to imagine, even if they do try to appease and appeal to those moderates, there's not enough wrapping paper to cut.”
2017-06-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 159 - Dana Bash · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Maybe. And that's the other thing. I mean, you know, he's Rand Paul is. Regardless of what you think about his convictions, he is truly a man of conviction. Yeah, you know, you know. So that's three.”
2017-06-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 159 - Dana Bash · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, he basically said he was going to, I think, pretty much say out. But by the time that Rand Paul ran for president, they had come together because Rand Paul saved Mitch McConnell's, you know what? Rand Paul really worked very hard when Mitch McConnell had a tough primary fight in Kentucky and to help him win. And so they have a kind of a marriage of convenience.”
2017-06-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 159 - Dana Bash · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's exactly right. That's exactly right. I'm guessing that he's going to be hard to get Susan Collins, another moderate, seems hard to get. She also has another, a lot of things weighing on her. Like, is she going to run for governor, which is a whole different set of kind of political considerations and constituent considerations? So they can only lose two, right? So there you have two. And then, okay, well, what about Rand Paul, who is pretty much consistently in the hell no category, but he's also the junior senator from Kentucky where Mitch McConnell is. So does he feel enough of a kind of allegiance to Mitch McConnell?”
2017-06-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 159 - Dana Bash · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Pretty much every five minutes, if you ask me, I have a different kind of feeling on it. At this moment, I would say it's more likely than not that it dies, that it doesn't pass just on the moderate side, Dean Heller is out there, and it's very hard to imagine them putting enough money in there for Medicaid and figuring out a way to magically make the CBO show that premiums are going to go down for people. The big issues that he has.”
2017-06-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 159 - Dana Bash · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But he doesn't want to sell it to the point where he realizes it's actually in the long term going to. I mean, there's a theory.”
2017-06-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 159 - Dana Bash · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Exactly. And let's just say that this does become law just as you said. And let's just say the policy works and people, their healthcare and their health insurance situation is better. In the short term, there's no way that's going to happen because it's not even written that way. So in the short term, they're definitely going to take a political hit. But you're saying that your theory is that he is not too fast. He”
2017-06-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 159 - Dana Bash · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Aren't following along here for those who are on planet Mars. But the Just the rollout of their health care bill. Never mind that they were doing it behind closed doors. Whatever. Okay, that happens on both sides of the aisle. But when it was time to unveil it, it was just thrown online. There was nobody who came out and did as much as a press conference and said, here's why this is good for America. So what it did was it left a giant vacuum, and Chuck Schumer, smartly jumped right into that vacuum, and all of the opponents to try to define this bill as negative. And that was a very big mistake, I thought, from the perspective of Mitch McConnell in that he let that vacuum happen. However, let's just get into the real conspiracy talk, unless it is that those who say that he just doesn't care and he wants us off his plate and he didn't want to fight for it, and maybe he's kind of okay with Obamacare staying.”
2017-06-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 159 - Dana Bash · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And he's not a policy guy. He is the ultimate insider, tactician, political chess player. And I think that in so many ways, in the opposition that helped him because of what you were just describing to how he positioned or forced the President Obama to position himself in a way that he didn't want to be. But the jury's still out on what it means now that he's in charge with the guy in the White House. Because, I mean, just one example that really surprised me. That would be.”
2017-06-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 159 - Dana Bash · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Known to mankind. They just make a decision and they are willing to take the hits and to be the poster children for it. And for right or wrong, and that's just the way it goes, Mitch McConnell ate, you know what, for a year on the Supreme Court decision, decision not to give Merrick Garland a vote, hoping and praying that there would be a Republican in the White House and it would be moot. You know what? It paid off. Right or wrong, it was just a very, very intense political decision. And so that is Mitch McConnell in a nutshell. He's not Mr. Backslapper. He's not, he's certainly not a public speaker.”
2017-06-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 159 - Dana Bash · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, it's funny because if you look at McConnell and Pelosi we were just talking about and Harry Reid who was ruled with the same kind of Iron Fist, but a very different approach to it. They all have one thing in common that I've been thinking about a lot lately, is that they have the thickest skin.”
2017-06-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 159 - Dana Bash · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And her job when she was a little girl was to help make the index cards for her father about whose favors that they owe or who owes him favors. I mean, that's the knee that she learned on. Right. And she still...”
2017-06-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 159 - Dana Bash · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Goes to your point. Exactly. And look, she's, I mean, talk about badass women. She is the oldest. And we are going to talk about badass because she rules.”
2017-06-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 159 - Dana Bash · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“She knows her caucus, hundreds of people so well, I mean, and not just their kids' names, their grandkids' birthdays, their sign, their favorite color, you know, what they ate for breakfast, but kind of what makes them tick, and it's because of that that she can hold them and she can get things done. And I think that the fact that she pushed back the Obamacare fight, the very lengthy one, where when the Senate lost the 60th vote, when Scott Brown won in Massachusetts, and tell me if these stories are wrong, but from everything we hear, she was one of the people who stood up and said, no, this is our chance. We got to do this. And she willed it. I think there were two people.”
2017-06-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 159 - Dana Bash · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, I think they do. I think they all have points, and that's the problem. I think that the younger members do see, there's Nancy Pelosi, there's Stenny Hoyer, they're about the same age, there's Clyburn, who's not that far behind, maybe even a few years older. And those are the leaders in their party. They do have younger people who they bring to the table for that exact reason. But listen, I am somebody I've observed Nancy Pelosi for years Yeah, she's been there for a long time, but you correct me if I'm wrong because you were in the White House. I do not think Obamacare would have got through a chance if she weren't a chance. She knows her cock she is here's here's why she is a leader that's going to be very hard to parallel to compare with.”
2017-06-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 159 - Dana Bash · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Which, as we've learned from the guy who's in the White House, doesn't always allow you the space to give enough context to what you're trying to say.”
2017-06-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 159 - Dana Bash · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Context is key. That's exactly right. And, you know, especially when you're able to get a story out and get it out first, it's usually with a link on Twitter to the broader piece which has context, that doesn't always happen. And you're limited to, what is Twitter, 140, 150? 140. 140 characters.”
2017-06-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 159 - Dana Bash · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Exactly. Do you see it differently? I mean, since you've been a reporter, obviously, like you said, you don't have to file every hour or two that you didn't have to worry about the internet.”
2017-06-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 159 - Dana Bash · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, no, that's true. That's absolutely true. I think it was probably always the case in journalism, but the conflict historically has been about ideas, which is what this country is supposed to be about, a conflict of ideas and trying to figure out what the best idea is. I think that it's not just cable news. I think it's even across the board, even the gray lady has to deal with this, that it's not New York Times, that it's the conflict”
2017-06-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 159 - Dana Bash · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And conserved blue dog Democrats from the South. Exactly right. And that was a lot of the basis for compromise, which doesn't exist anymore. And I've had really conservative Republicans say to me in the halls of Congress even a couple of weeks ago that there's more and more quiet talk about how it's not fun anymore and that they're also worried about a challenge from the right they feel like they can't make a move without doing without the right being okay with it and that maybe more Republicans and more conservatives are going to be interesting in redistricting and that those kinds of reforms will assume what No question.”
2017-06-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 159 - Dana Bash · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Exactly, exactly. And so that's the, I remember covering Congress when there were moderate Republicans from the North, New England Republicans, who was in their interest to represent their constituents to work with Democrats because those were the people who...”
2017-06-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 159 - Dana Bash · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The only challenge that most Republicans have to worry about is from the right. So their interest is always to be drawn to the right. Less so among Democrats, but a lot of democratic districts are drawn very heavily Democratic. Sometimes by the way.”
2017-06-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 159 - Dana Bash · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“In most cases That's right. And that's the, look, at the end of the day, that's the real answer. The real answer is, and I've seen it, the gerrymandering is horrendous. It's absolutely horrendous. And I've had, when I say gerrymandering, I mean that”
2017-06-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 159 - Dana Bash · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Harder. It is a hard question because it used to be the answer used to be, you know, fundraising and so much of the time and energy that these politicians spend, especially in the house where they're basically always running because they are on the ballot every two years having to go across the street because you can't raise money in the capital and dial for dollars or go to fundraisers at night in times where they could and probably should be having a drink with somebody across the aisle the way it used to be. It's not that simple anymore because now a person can win with grassroots fervor and a social media and an internet presence with almost no money at all.”
2017-06-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 159 - Dana Bash · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Senator from Virginia, the ultimate Virginia gentleman, and like all of these guys, they make their enemies, but he wanted to do right. And he knew that he was going to get hammered at home a lot for working on bipartisan legislation. And he didn't always do it, just like Ted Kennedy didn't always do it. But he did it enough, and he did it where he thought it really would be most impactful to the people who needed it.”
2017-06-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 159 - Dana Bash · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Exactly. So, yeah, so there's no question he was very well liked. And on the Republican side, people like John Warner, who was kind of the...”
2017-06-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 159 - Dana Bash · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“As did John McCain, I remember being invited to MC, a charity, Catholic charities, that was co-founded by Ted Kennedy and John Boehner. And they worked very closely together on them.”
2017-06-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 159 - Dana Bash · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Definitely Ted Kennedy is one of them. I mean, by far on the Democratic side because for so many reasons, but because his dreams of becoming president didn't happen, and he poured his heart and soul into learning the art of legislating and to what it takes to be really impactful in the United States Senate. And he did it. He did some great, great things. What”
2017-06-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 159 - Dana Bash · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Orn Hatch, and John Warner and I mean Orn Hatch is still there, but it just doesn't work for him. The system doesn't work for him the way it did. And it's not like that anymore. And it's really too bad.”
2017-06-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 159 - Dana Bash · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Bipartisanship did not used to be a dirty word. Compromise did not used to be a dirty word. I can't tell you how many blisters I ended up getting on my feet from standing in hallways outside of meetings where Democrats, Republicans, representatives from the White House, Democrat and Republican White Houses were behind closed doors having genuine discussions about really important legislation and how to do it in a bipartisan way. And the question wasn't are they going to come out with a compromise or are they just going to die? It was, what is that compromise going to be? There was so much faith in the system and in the grown-ups in the room, frankly, that it was a given that there would be something that would come out. It might not have been perfect, but, you know, it was the days of Ted Kennedy.”
2017-06-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 159 - Dana Bash · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's not. I mean, I remember from Gabby Gifford's, I was talking to Gabby Giffords just off the house floor the Thursday or Friday before she was shot, and I remember her telling me all about this great trip she and her family had taken to the Vatican and we were just, you know, kibbitzing. I wasn't trying to get information from her.”
2017-06-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 159 - Dana Bash · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, they're human. I mean, you have human relationships, and that's normal and natural, and I think actually good, especially in a town like Washington.”
2017-06-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 159 - Dana Bash · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The right way to go. Exactly. And it was because they didn't know where Flight 93 was. And they thought it was coming, and at the end of the day, they were right. But the other thing that was not in place at the time were the basic kind of continuity of government things that we now know. Robert Byrd, who was President Pro Tem, he was third in line to be president of the United States, was wandering around. He didn't have any staff with him. He didn't know where to go. He was just kind of wandering around over by the Supreme Court. I mean, it was Mayhem. It was absolute mayhem.”
2017-06-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 159 - Dana Bash · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And so, and we were all gathered across the plaza kind of on the grass, across the Senate, and people just started running. I remember seeing shoes just kind of on the lawn because women were running out of their shoes. And to hear a police officer says,”
2017-06-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 159 - Dana Bash · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We're trying to help me get in because I knew I had to go work. And as I was coming up the East Front of the Capitol, the plane was hitting the Pentagon, which they could see the people in the offices on the west front could see out the window. They could see the smoke. And so the second I actually got into the first floor of the capital, I pressed the button for the elevator, and then the cop started screaming, everybody run, get out, get out. We're being evacuated. So I ran out, somehow miraculously a CNN camera guy was sort of right there. It was before live use or the technology was such that you could pretty much go live with a cell phone. You couldn't do that there. So he plugged in to a fiber drop, which allowed us to go live, which was right across from the Senate chamber. And we were about to just even put up a live picture already. The cell phones were not working because everything was just jammed up. And then this was probably one of the scariest moments.”
2017-06-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 159 - Dana Bash · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You know, I still to this day really go into the rotunda of the capital and I look up and I mean I put my arms out which is a ridiculous thing but it just kind of helps me and I think okay if a plane actually did hit if flight 93 which the 9-11 commission said was heading for the capital did hit the capital how far like the wingspan how far out would it what would it mean and those are the things that still go through my mind thinking about that day of 9-11 and I was when the plane the second plane hit the towers I was still on my way to the capital I was a producer at the time and it was such a different mindset that we could still park right on the Capitol grounds even reporters the cops did kind of do a perfunctory look in your trunk to make sure nothing was in there but when they saw me coming they were helping me get in because they knew that you know we all know each other it's like a family and they”
2017-06-26 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 159 - Dana Bash · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source