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Dana Bash

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  1. No question, no question. And you probably had this experience when you were a reporter. I've gotten scooped on a lot of things that I was told off the record, but because I kept it off the record and I didn't feel that I could even go elsewhere to try to confirm it because that would burn that person. I got scooped. But it does stay off the way. Exactly. But it pays off later because you build relationships and that trust factor is something that you can't put a value on.

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  2. Right, years, years, and being present. Because you're not sitting in the booth, there's a little booth where CNN has a little office space and all the networks and the print people have the same, but just literally roaming the halls. And then you never know what you find. When you roam the halls, you see Senator X going into the office of Senator Y and you know that Senator X is working on a certain piece of legislation and you, oh, wow, is Senator Y maybe. And so you kind of learn how to piece things together just by being present.

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  3. Been in that job for a long time, and he's one of the best reporters, reporters on Capitol Hill because it's news gathering and it's source building.

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  4. In the producer role, exactly. And that's exactly what happened. So I was lucky in that I went to the assignment desk and I was doing some news gathering in terms of helping reporters on stories. The newsroom was set up in a different way than it is now. At the end of the day, I ended up on Capitol Hill just helping out during the impeachment trial of Bill Clinton. And Candy Crowley was a correspondent there, her producer, Mike Roselli, and they just, it was it, and they needed help. And so again, it was all hands on deck, but I fell in love with it. I thought, this is so cool. You get to walk around and talk to actual senators, and their actual aides and house members and have conversations with them and really learn. It's still, to me, the best beat in Washington because of the access that you have. They went on to cover the 2000 presidential election, and I got the job as Senate producer, which is effectively and still is, my colleague Ted Barrett has been.

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  5. And if I were, I probably would have done the more traditional route and gone out to a local station. But I just loved this story. I loved politics. I loved Washington.

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  6. I was. I was. And you know, the thing about, I will say the thing about CNN, particularly when I started, is that there were so few people, and at the time there was no Fox, there was no MSNBC. So we were kind of, we were really the little engine that could still. And because there were so few people, if you wanted to do it, if you frankly had a pulse and an interest, you could go do it. So I got a lot more experience than I probably would have otherwise at a different place. But I did work my way through the weekend shows. I was an associate producer and a producer, which again got me so much experience in booking and writing and package producing, in figuring out how to get a satellite, how to get satellite time, things like that. But then I wanted to go to news gathering. I made a conscious decision that I wanted to see what it was like to actually report news. Not as a reporter. I didn't think I want to be a reporter, but I wanted to.

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  7. Frank says But he denies this, and I want to say that he is the nicest guy. But what happened understandably was he was hung out to dry, came into the control room after the show, was very upset, and was talking to the producer about it, and he looked at me and said, who are you? And I said, my name is Dana. It's my first day. He goes, oh yeah, well, it's going to be your last. Like out of a movie, and I went to the bathroom and threw up.

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  8. A little bit more experience doing it. Long story short, it got totally messed up, and it was like 1A, 1D, 1E, and the anchor was reading, who ended up being my boss and a mentor to me. But the anchor.

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  9. What happened was at the time that teleprompter was like a conveyor belt, and so the scripts were printed, and if the script was long, you had like script number one was one ABC and D and you had to actually tape with a piece of scotch tape, tape them together in order is the right way to do it, put it in order, and put it on the conveyor belt so that the anchor is reading it and there was a little camera that went on the conveyor belt and went into the teleprompter. As part of my duties in the feeds room, nobody told me that it also included being basically the production assistant for a show that was like in three or three o'clock in the afternoon. I had no idea what I was doing, none. And because there were no real entry-level jobs, the people who really did know what they were doing were the actual interns, the people who weren't getting paid, who were in school who had

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  10. That was 1993. And when I graduated from college, there was a Job open in the tape library, another place that doesn't exist anymore, because there's no tapes and there's no library. But that was really the only way to get in. There were no real entry-level jobs here at CNN in the Washington Bureau. The tape library and the receptionist in the front hall, they were the only entry-level jobs, and then you could kind of work your way up from there. So I was lucky that there was a job open, which didn't happen very often, and I applied and I got it. So I got it on my 22nd birthday. And I've been here ever since.

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  11. That and then when the reporters did packages, reports, it was all put together on a videotape and you had to take the videotape and put it in the VCR and press play and send it down to Atlanta so it could get on the air. Again, none of this exists anymore. It's all old technology, but there were only two people who did it. And when one person would take a vacation or was sick, that person had worked from 7 a.m. to 11 p.m. So this guy Bill Kazarbo was getting an earful like, I need help, and I just happened to call that day. And he said, okay, you want to come in, come learn the feeds room. I said, okay. I had no idea what that meant, but I came in and worked with somebody who was also still at CNN. She's an editor now who taught me the feed room and I came in and learned that.

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  12. Exactly. I know when I'm done with this. And so there were probably eight VCRs, and you're responsible for literally pressing play and record to make sure you get the Senate floor, the House floor, the stakeout at the White House, the White House briefing. And if you don't record it, you're kind of hosed because the network doesn't have it. I mean, you can get a copy from C-SPAN or somebody, but it wasn't digital. I mean, it was a big deal to get a videotaped copy.

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  13. Well, the feed room doesn't really exist right anymore, but at the time, the feeds room was, it was actually a little closet where you had VCRs for young people, VCR was this thing where you put an actual tape in. And you would actually... And

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  14. And then my last semester of my senior year when I was here, at the time internships weren't paid. Now most of them are, but they weren't. And I thought, you know, it would be nice if I actually made some money doing this. So I had like a three-person deep connection here at CNN and I just happened to call on a day where this person, his name was Bill Cazarba, who ran the newsroom at the time, was getting an earful from the person who works in the feeds room because there were only two people who could do it. Explain what the feed is.

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  15. Former Senator from Michigan, who I had no connection to, was just somebody who was a professor, knew that they needed somebody. I did a little bit of volunteering answering phones in the press shop in the White House, my second semester, my senior year. And I got a, and after I had done internships at CBS News here in Washington, at NBC News on the desk in New York actually during the 92 campaign, I was able to go to the convention in New York in 92, which was really cool.

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  16. I intern for capital cities, the parent company for ABC in their corporate communications department. I worked with the best people, but I realized I did not, that was not for me. So I actually think, and I tell this to young people all the time, interning is as much about figuring out what you don't want to do as it is what you do want to do. So I figure that out. And then I was on the hill for, I did a couple days a week one semester for Don Regal of Michigan. Yeah, formerly.

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  17. It was incredibly informative because I really, so I, my sophomore year I applied to and got into a program at GW called Political Communication, which was tremendous. It was all about it was political science, journalism communications, and then it was government and kind of how they all interact, which was kind of a great training ground for what we do now. But even though I got in there and I was doing that, I wasn't sure where I wanted to go. I wasn't sure if I wanted to work in public relations. I wasn't sure if I wanted to.

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  18. Exactly. Exactly. And, you know, drop dead gorgeous. Super, super smart. She was majoring in philosophy. I mean, she was the full package. So we went to hear him speak. It was after the election they had won and he was a superstar, a real superstar. And I was trying to figure out ways to, and I didn't know him from a hole in the wall. He didn't know me from the hole in the wall. So trying to devise ways for them to bump into each other because I knew as soon as he bumped into Molina Zakaropoulos, he would decide that she was the one for him, but I didn't figure it out. Didn't happen. No.

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  19. I mean, it's about time. And so my roommate in college was Melina Zakaropoulos, and I decided that she should marry George Stepanopoulos. Because why shouldn't she? And she was dropped dead.

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  20. When he spoke there, tell that story. So I graduated from GW in 1993. So I was there. It was here in Washington as a student in kind of the climax of the Clinton Gore craze, which it really was. I mean, it was at the time, it was the next generation. It was all the things that you saw, you know, so many years later with you and your candidate with Barack Obama. But it was, and also the people who work for him were really, really young, like people who we as students could relate to because they were only a few years older than we were. And George was one of those.

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  21. Yeah, he always said, you know, FDR was such a great president for so many reasons, but this was a big blind spot that he allowed to happen, keeping those quotas in place. You know, absolutely. He and my grandmother only got to this country because his brother was a chemist. father owned paint factories. They did very well, which of course were all burned to the ground by the Nazis. He was a chemist who came to Chicago to work, and he had a boss who loved him. loved my uncle, my great uncle, and he agreed to sign an affidavit which you had to do was like the bare minimum to get somebody over here. And it was like $20,000 a person, which was a lot of money back then. Oh my god.

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  22. Hitler and the Nazis for so long they didn't want to kill us, they just wanted us out and there was nowhere for us to go. We had no place to go. He even trained with his Zionist cousins to go to Israel and they didn't go only because the Danube froze. And that's the only reason why he came to America and, you know, I am here. Over and over again, that was his whole message. We didn't have anywhere to go. And he was the biggest American patriot. I mean, he loved this country, loved, loved, loved. Fourth of July was his favorite holiday. I mean, and so he rings in my ears, David. And during that whole, the whole Syrian debate, I was actually, I mean, certainly not glad that my grandfather wasn't with us. He would have been over 100, but still thinking I'm glad he would have just been so sickened just to hear the back and forth about it.

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  23. The whole time, the whole trip what he just drilled into us over and over again was when he was there and he didn't get out till nineteen forty one, Columbus Day of nineteen forty one, which is really late is when

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  24. Went to the tower where my grandmother was from in Hungary, Koschica, which I don't even think is Hungary anymore. And it was leveled so he couldn't even figure out what was water, where was where, and he was very upset about it.

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  25. It's so funny that you were so good, that you hit on that because this was one of the toughest ones. There's no question because my grandfather passed away in 2009. He was 95. So I got a lot of time with him that I treasure. And one of the things that we did as a family in the 90s, the mid-90s, like I think it was 1996, is my brother who's two years younger than me, and I and my parents and my mom's sister, my aunt, and my grandfather, the six of us did what my grandfather called his sentimental journey. And we spent two weeks in Europe. We went to Vienna, to the city where he was born and raised. We went to Prague, the city where he and my grandmother were married on the run, where he was stateless. He had to give up his papers. He showed us the mountains that he escaped on and from with gypsies helping him along the way.

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  26. Adults, sort of when they drop their kids at Hebrew school to keep them engaged and keep them involved, which is a big challenge in the reform movement, a big one. And so, and she wrote a couple of books with her hero, one of her Eugene Borowitz, who was one of her professors. And so she kind of found her home there.

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  27. Of was part of my mother's upbringing, and it was always where she had her interest. And so, I mean, just remember growing up, again, she also had her day job and she had us, my brother and me, but she loved going to Temple and being on boards and being involved particularly in the crafting of education within the temple and not just kids but mostly adult education. And so when my brother and I were out of the house, she said, I'm going to go back to school. And she went to get her master's in Judaic studies. She was actually the first person to get that degree from the Reform Seminary. Everybody else who was going to school with her, they were actually my age at the time going to be rabbis. And she got her masters. And then she went on to help try to devise curriculum for

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  28. My grandfather, her father was probably the smartest person I ever met, but mostly self-taught. He escaped the Nazis along with my grandmother. He was Austrian. And he was going to go to law school, and then that just didn't happen for him because they were trying to figure out how to stay alive and then ultimately get to the United States. But he always was always fascinated with learning, always. And so he That was most of his focus. His day job was kind of a sideshow for him, how he made his money. And he was always very into sort of the intellectual part of Judaism. He was spiritual, but it was more about kind of the Talmudic part of it for him. And that definitely.

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  29. Yeah, so she left journalism. She did so many different things when I was growing up. I mean, I was. I don't want to say latchkey child, but I guess by today's standards you would call it that. And looking back, it was great for me that my mom was always working, even though she wasn't doing the field that she studied, but she worked in publishing. She actually worked when we were here in DC, when my dad was working in DC, she was working at a place that was lobbying, a whole bunch of different stuff, but her passion was always and her love was always Jewish learning. Why? You know, I think it's probably lots of reasons.

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  30. Yes, exactly. Six months later, they were engaged, and the rule was at the time that he was going to work for the network. They were moving to New York to work for ABC. And the rule was you couldn't be married and work for the same company, even if it was in the affiliate. And so, of course, it was my.

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  31. Uh huh. And my father, I think, had been doing basic training. It was during the Vietnam era. He was in the National Guard, but he came in for an interview. And my mom said to the boss, oh, I remember him from school. He's a really good writer. And so he helped get him hired. And six months later, they engaged his parents.

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  32. And in fact, my mom basically got my dad the job because she was working there as a secretary, which is what you did when you were a woman then. And she was very good at ironing her boss's pants. I'm not making it up. Really?

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  33. It's so interesting that I fought against what's really my DNA for my whole childhood, even as I got into college. I always said to myself, I don't want to do this. Like the Pope dies. You got to go home from your vacation. The hours are crazy, you know, because I, so my eyes were wide open about the downsides of this business. And then I just stopped fighting my DNA as soon as I went to college because my dad ended up working in TV news, but both my parents went to Northwestern and studied journalism there. And my parents actually met at the local ABC. Station in Chicago

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