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Danny Hillis

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“And I do want to meet smart people. I told you that that's like what I'm seeking for the brilliant people with different ways of looking at the world.”
2024-12-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #782: Legendary Inventor Danny Hillis (Plus Kevin Kelly) — Unorthodox Lessons from 400+ Patents, Solving the Impossible, Real Al vs. “AI”, Hiring Richard Feynman, Working with Steve Jobs, Creating Parallel Computing, and Much More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, well, you get all kinds of versions of it. It's in Nevada. I ran as somebody who said it was in China. But that to me is very satisfying because stories are actually what really lasts and really your question about the billboard is like that of you know what's an idea you want to put in people's head that sort of stays there and an idea has a lot more sticking power than any physical thing you could build and so I love it that it has sort of become a story with a life of its own and that to me is as exciting and the fact that there's this giant thing sitting in a shaft in the mountain”
2024-12-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #782: Legendary Inventor Danny Hillis (Plus Kevin Kelly) — Unorthodox Lessons from 400+ Patents, Solving the Impossible, Real Al vs. “AI”, Hiring Richard Feynman, Working with Steve Jobs, Creating Parallel Computing, and Much More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No, actually, I think it's good that we spent time on other things. It will speak for itself. It's a story. And actually, my favorite thing about the 10,000 year clock is I run into people regularly who've heard about it but assume it's just a myth.”
2024-12-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #782: Legendary Inventor Danny Hillis (Plus Kevin Kelly) — Unorthodox Lessons from 400+ Patents, Solving the Impossible, Real Al vs. “AI”, Hiring Richard Feynman, Working with Steve Jobs, Creating Parallel Computing, and Much More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That sort of made people see the future and believe that there was that future. That's what I do. And the 10,000-year clock is the best approximation I can do to that. But I think that that's what the world needs. I think it needs that picture that puts the context of everything today in the context of the development of humanity over tens of thousands of years. And I think that would make it a much more optimistic picture for everybody.”
2024-12-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #782: Legendary Inventor Danny Hillis (Plus Kevin Kelly) — Unorthodox Lessons from 400+ Patents, Solving the Impossible, Real Al vs. “AI”, Hiring Richard Feynman, Working with Steve Jobs, Creating Parallel Computing, and Much More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That's the one rule. In a sense, I think I've answered that because I think the most successful example of that was Stuart Brand having a picture of the whole earth. I think he realized that when people saw that picture of the whole earth floating in space, they would think about everything differently. And they did. And so to me, there's no picture like that of the future. You can't conjure up an image. You can conjure up an image of the past of maybe the pyramids or something like that. But there is no iconic image of the future. And if you could imagine something to put on a billboard.”
2024-12-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #782: Legendary Inventor Danny Hillis (Plus Kevin Kelly) — Unorthodox Lessons from 400+ Patents, Solving the Impossible, Real Al vs. “AI”, Hiring Richard Feynman, Working with Steve Jobs, Creating Parallel Computing, and Much More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Of things. It's like, you know, when Claude Shannon condensed the bit, the differences that that makes are just becoming apparent After he's dead. Know that's something that over time makes a huge difference. But if you try to measure it during his lifetime, it would have been really hard to give it any credit.”
2024-12-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #782: Legendary Inventor Danny Hillis (Plus Kevin Kelly) — Unorthodox Lessons from 400+ Patents, Solving the Impossible, Real Al vs. “AI”, Hiring Richard Feynman, Working with Steve Jobs, Creating Parallel Computing, and Much More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I guess I try to ask the question, will this make a difference over how much time will that difference matter? If it makes a lot of difference after I'm dead, I'd rather do that. And I think a lot of people think I want to make a difference, but I think they waited much too much to the near term. And so, for instance, I really admire Bill Gates as a philanthropist. He works really hard and he's super smart about it. But one thing that bothers me about some of the things that they do is because they try to measure everything, they try to do things that make a difference in the time that they can measure them. And I think that that is maybe not the right metric to be optimizing because it doesn't allow for the long tail of time of impact.”
2024-12-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #782: Legendary Inventor Danny Hillis (Plus Kevin Kelly) — Unorthodox Lessons from 400+ Patents, Solving the Impossible, Real Al vs. “AI”, Hiring Richard Feynman, Working with Steve Jobs, Creating Parallel Computing, and Much More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, and I think you could have multiple entities that have access to each other's thoughts, and that might be even richer superconsciousness that might be better. So I think this might be another case of us looking at what's apparent to us when we think of our thinking. And we're very impressed with the things that are sort of very visible to us like we were very impressed with our ability to play chess. Ultimately, my”
2024-12-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #782: Legendary Inventor Danny Hillis (Plus Kevin Kelly) — Unorthodox Lessons from 400+ Patents, Solving the Impossible, Real Al vs. “AI”, Hiring Richard Feynman, Working with Steve Jobs, Creating Parallel Computing, and Much More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think consciousness may be that. I think consciousness may be our access to our own thoughts. And that may be useful, but it may not be the most critical thing in intelligence. Like maybe you could not have it and still be very smart and maybe I wouldn't even be able to tell the difference.”
2024-12-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #782: Legendary Inventor Danny Hillis (Plus Kevin Kelly) — Unorthodox Lessons from 400+ Patents, Solving the Impossible, Real Al vs. “AI”, Hiring Richard Feynman, Working with Steve Jobs, Creating Parallel Computing, and Much More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Your brain took the thing that they said and expanded into a sensible idea. And maybe it was more sensible than the one that they had in the first place. Well, so you could do that within your own brain just by talking to yourself. And so probably given you got all this hardware lying around for compressing and decompressing ideas, a good thing to do with the idea is to Compress it, tell it to yourself, and see if you misunderstand it in an interesting way. And maybe consciousness is just some hack like that.”
2024-12-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #782: Legendary Inventor Danny Hillis (Plus Kevin Kelly) — Unorthodox Lessons from 400+ Patents, Solving the Impossible, Real Al vs. “AI”, Hiring Richard Feynman, Working with Steve Jobs, Creating Parallel Computing, and Much More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And so we sort of went through this translation process. And so we have a lot of our brain is devoted to that compression process of turning the idea into grunts and turning the grunts into an idea. So given you've got all the hardware lying around, you've probably had the experience of misunderstanding somebody, but what you misunderstood is actually more interesting than what they said.”
2024-12-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #782: Legendary Inventor Danny Hillis (Plus Kevin Kelly) — Unorthodox Lessons from 400+ Patents, Solving the Impossible, Real Al vs. “AI”, Hiring Richard Feynman, Working with Steve Jobs, Creating Parallel Computing, and Much More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Certainly, that's possible. My guess, and this is really just a guess, is that consciousness is going to turn out to be way less important than we think in the sense that it's going to be a very small piece of intelligence. And it might just be a kind of a hack. For example, okay, so I have a complicated idea in my mind and I turn it into a series of grunts and grunt at you and whistle and grunt and somehow you listen to those grunts and you construct an idea in your mind.”
2024-12-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #782: Legendary Inventor Danny Hillis (Plus Kevin Kelly) — Unorthodox Lessons from 400+ Patents, Solving the Impossible, Real Al vs. “AI”, Hiring Richard Feynman, Working with Steve Jobs, Creating Parallel Computing, and Much More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But it was interesting because it was most of the stuff I had in the book didn't change at all. In fact, some of it would have talked about certain things more and certain things less and so on. But one of the things I talked about was quantum computing. It really, even in quantum computing, there wasn't much I would change. What I said about it is, you know, if you want to look for where something could be a real game changer, it's quantum computing. It's got all this potential and all these hints that it could work. And there's good theoretical reason to believe that it would be revolutionary. But nobody's actually gotten it to be useful yet. And that's pretty much still the state that is in. I was surprised that in the end, I decided it was sort of more interesting as an historical document of how computing looked in the 90s and I didn't change it.”
2024-12-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #782: Legendary Inventor Danny Hillis (Plus Kevin Kelly) — Unorthodox Lessons from 400+ Patents, Solving the Impossible, Real Al vs. “AI”, Hiring Richard Feynman, Working with Steve Jobs, Creating Parallel Computing, and Much More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I feel like I don't know pretty weird. Fortunately, they didn't say the last millennium, right? But they said, you know, would you like to revise it? I went back, you know, there are a lot of things that's happened since then.”
2024-12-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #782: Legendary Inventor Danny Hillis (Plus Kevin Kelly) — Unorthodox Lessons from 400+ Patents, Solving the Impossible, Real Al vs. “AI”, Hiring Richard Feynman, Working with Steve Jobs, Creating Parallel Computing, and Much More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That's right. A high school student that was interested in computers couldn't understand. Now it turns out mostly who likes reading the book or people who already understand everything in the book, but they like seeing it all explained. But it had a chapter on quantum computing. And this was written. In the early 90s. And I got this funny call from the publisher and said, you know, this weird thing. Your book is the only computer book we have from the last century that's continuing to sell.”
2024-12-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #782: Legendary Inventor Danny Hillis (Plus Kevin Kelly) — Unorthodox Lessons from 400+ Patents, Solving the Impossible, Real Al vs. “AI”, Hiring Richard Feynman, Working with Steve Jobs, Creating Parallel Computing, and Much More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That's exactly the right question to ask because it gets, if you really look at true quantum computers, it's much harder to sort of explain it in terms of causes and effects like we do as a digital computer. You operate on it and it causes this state to turn into that state as sort of a cause thing, but actually the cause also involves observation. Just looking at it, changes at. And so one of the early things will be quantum key generation. We'll sort of have a module and say, if we do this, we get a cryptographic key that has the right properties. Now, how that magic happens, very few people will have any intuition of how that happened. And the people who do have really deep intuition will realize that it's actually not causes and effects in the way that we're used to thinking about it.”
2024-12-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #782: Legendary Inventor Danny Hillis (Plus Kevin Kelly) — Unorthodox Lessons from 400+ Patents, Solving the Impossible, Real Al vs. “AI”, Hiring Richard Feynman, Working with Steve Jobs, Creating Parallel Computing, and Much More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Right now, we can pretty much only think using that track. That's what digital is okay. So computers are all about kind of playing out this fantasy of cause and effect. So by forcing everything to either be a zero or a one and nothing in between and making everything digital, we can kind of make things that almost work perfectly as if this and this caused that to happen. And so in some sense, the computer is the ultimate fantasy of putting together causes and effects on piling causes and effects and engineering them into long chains that we write with programs and control them. And this comes so close to doing exactly what our fantasy is that it's hard to believe it's not true.”
2024-12-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #782: Legendary Inventor Danny Hillis (Plus Kevin Kelly) — Unorthodox Lessons from 400+ Patents, Solving the Impossible, Real Al vs. “AI”, Hiring Richard Feynman, Working with Steve Jobs, Creating Parallel Computing, and Much More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I believe in storytelling as a useful way. So I think, but we are, when we tell a story about a protein pathway causing something, we're making up a story. And we really look at what's happening in the physics, all those things work in the other direction too. And the story isn't really what the physics is doing. It's a sort of simplified thread of things that we can understand and what's doing. So to use useful to kind of abstract out these threads that we can tell stories about because that gives us a handle on it and helps us manipulate it. So I'm not saying that's not a helpful trick of thinking, but it's a trick. It's not really how the universe works. And we shouldn't fool ourselves into that and we shouldn't get too enamored by it. In fact, maybe when we get new kinds of AI, maybe they'll be able to think without using that.”
2024-12-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #782: Legendary Inventor Danny Hillis (Plus Kevin Kelly) — Unorthodox Lessons from 400+ Patents, Solving the Impossible, Real Al vs. “AI”, Hiring Richard Feynman, Working with Steve Jobs, Creating Parallel Computing, and Much More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You know, we believe it's true in some fundamental sense. And so it's the way our brain works. We're wired to look for causes and effects. And that's like why we're kind of wired to believe in God. Because if you have a chain of causes and effects, then it sort of has to be a first cause at the beginning, causing all the rest of it. But I think that's just kind of the way our brain works and the way we tell stories about reality. I don't think reality actually has causes and effects.”
2024-12-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #782: Legendary Inventor Danny Hillis (Plus Kevin Kelly) — Unorthodox Lessons from 400+ Patents, Solving the Impossible, Real Al vs. “AI”, Hiring Richard Feynman, Working with Steve Jobs, Creating Parallel Computing, and Much More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Okay, so we look at an equation like f equals ma and we say, oh, force causes masses to accelerate when you push on it. That seems to be what F equals MA says, just going back to Newton. But I think that's just a story. I think that we like to tell stories in which there are agents that cause change because we're social creatures and we like to sort of personify nature. But I could rewrite F equal MA to be A equals F over M and say mass is caused by force acting on acceleration and that creates mass. Just as easily as I could say that the force causes the acceleration. It's just a way we tell the story. And some stories are intuitive to us and sort of make sense and fit with our intuitions and some stories don't. And so when we can tell a story about something that's kind of explanatory and helps us guess at what's going to happen next or things like that, it's a useful story.”
2024-12-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #782: Legendary Inventor Danny Hillis (Plus Kevin Kelly) — Unorthodox Lessons from 400+ Patents, Solving the Impossible, Real Al vs. “AI”, Hiring Richard Feynman, Working with Steve Jobs, Creating Parallel Computing, and Much More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But even before that, like his master's thesis was the application of Boolean logic to switching circuits. You know, he just had this way of thinking about things that was so powerful that it gave everybody else a way of thinking about things and everybody else a way of solving problems that we just take for granted when we measure things in megabytes and stuff like that. Somebody I lived to know, somebody that was on my thesis committee invented the bit, right? If it's or discovered it or whatever those are the kind of people that I admire the most because they give everybody else the power to imagine new things and do new things. And Newton did that in physics. Feynman did that in physics with Feynman diagrams. So those are the real wows of history.”
2024-12-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #782: Legendary Inventor Danny Hillis (Plus Kevin Kelly) — Unorthodox Lessons from 400+ Patents, Solving the Impossible, Real Al vs. “AI”, Hiring Richard Feynman, Working with Steve Jobs, Creating Parallel Computing, and Much More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So Claude Shannon invented the bit. Actually, another one of my mentors named the bit, but he invented it. He invented information theory. So he invented a way of measuring information and encoding information.”
2024-12-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #782: Legendary Inventor Danny Hillis (Plus Kevin Kelly) — Unorthodox Lessons from 400+ Patents, Solving the Impossible, Real Al vs. “AI”, Hiring Richard Feynman, Working with Steve Jobs, Creating Parallel Computing, and Much More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, the ones that I admire the most, and some of them have been my mentors, are people like Claude Shannon, who kind of look at something really complicated and messy and get a take on it. That makes it simple and understandable in a way that gives everybody else power to do something with it.”
2024-12-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #782: Legendary Inventor Danny Hillis (Plus Kevin Kelly) — Unorthodox Lessons from 400+ Patents, Solving the Impossible, Real Al vs. “AI”, Hiring Richard Feynman, Working with Steve Jobs, Creating Parallel Computing, and Much More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's right, or maybe you do about how you made it work or something, but they could take it apart and see how you made it work. So I would say that we ought to definitely narrow down the things that we allow to patent. And I think that to inventors, I typically say maybe file patents is trading fodder in this ridiculous game that's going to have to happen, but don't go off and sue people for violating your patent and yeah, you might get rich that way, but it's not worth your time. It's not the way to spend.”
2024-12-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #782: Legendary Inventor Danny Hillis (Plus Kevin Kelly) — Unorthodox Lessons from 400+ Patents, Solving the Impossible, Real Al vs. “AI”, Hiring Richard Feynman, Working with Steve Jobs, Creating Parallel Computing, and Much More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, I patent because remember I'm often solving problems for other people? And so, I mean, they have paid for something to happen. And so they want to own something at the end. But I think for inventors, and I know inventors that have made lots of money on patents, but you have to sort of sue people. And so they end up wasting an awful lot of their life in courtrooms. And, you know, I hated, I occasionally get dragged into court for something that I patented that somebody else owns, you know, have to get deposed. And it's pretty, you know, it's a big waste of time. It's a big waste of society's resources. And the whole idea of patent system was initially to help society. It was to get inventors to disclose their patents. But I think that things that are sort of self-disclosing like Pinch to Zoom, when somebody sees it, you don't need to do any more disclosure about.”
2024-12-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #782: Legendary Inventor Danny Hillis (Plus Kevin Kelly) — Unorthodox Lessons from 400+ Patents, Solving the Impossible, Real Al vs. “AI”, Hiring Richard Feynman, Working with Steve Jobs, Creating Parallel Computing, and Much More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, first of all, I think patents might be good for inventors, but I don't think they're very good for society So, if I had a choice, I would eliminate the patent system. Now, there might be particular things like pharmaceuticals and things like that where you could make the trade-off the other way. But I think in general around computers and I'm happy software patents are kind of getting rejected much more and so on. I've always felt a sense of, I guess, ambivalence about patents”
2024-12-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #782: Legendary Inventor Danny Hillis (Plus Kevin Kelly) — Unorthodox Lessons from 400+ Patents, Solving the Impossible, Real Al vs. “AI”, Hiring Richard Feynman, Working with Steve Jobs, Creating Parallel Computing, and Much More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But I had filed this patent, and Samsung went back and went to the patent office and said, Wait a minute, you know, this Danny's patent like predates all of this. So the patent office, oh yeah, it does. And it invalidated Apple's patent. So everybody who had Androids or Samsung Fun or whatever, they could use Pinchesim too. So I think that's the invention that I'm kind of proudest of because even though I never got paid a dime for it, I see like little kids who had that same instinct that I had. Like I see them going to like a magazine and just like trying to zoom out the picture. And I know that nobody will ever remember that as ever having been invented because it's like kids are born with it has become so much of a part. So, you know, when you innately want something like that and you know you want it.”
2024-12-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #782: Legendary Inventor Danny Hillis (Plus Kevin Kelly) — Unorthodox Lessons from 400+ Patents, Solving the Impossible, Real Al vs. “AI”, Hiring Richard Feynman, Working with Steve Jobs, Creating Parallel Computing, and Much More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But I kept on working on it, and eventually I made actually this touch table thing. And it was very expensive. It actually went into the situation room of the White House. So during the Obama administration, Obama would show people like he had this map that he could pinch to Zoom, right? Then, of course, Apple came out with the iPhone, other people were working on it. Fortunately, when I did the table thing, I filed a patent. And then when the iPhone came out, of course, it did a very beautiful job of pinched to Zoom and very refined version of it. And people started using it. And then the other phone company started doing it. And Apple sued them. Apple filed a patent on Peach of Zoom and sued them. And actually, I think won like a billion dollars from Samsung.”
2024-12-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #782: Legendary Inventor Danny Hillis (Plus Kevin Kelly) — Unorthodox Lessons from 400+ Patents, Solving the Impossible, Real Al vs. “AI”, Hiring Richard Feynman, Working with Steve Jobs, Creating Parallel Computing, and Much More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But there was no such thing, right? At that time. But I really wanted that. I knew I wanted Pinchtism. So as I started building it and I had worked with Steve Jobs and I got a kind of a prototype of it working and I invited him over to look at it. And he said, ah, you know, people won't want white fingerprint smudges all over the street.”
2024-12-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #782: Legendary Inventor Danny Hillis (Plus Kevin Kelly) — Unorthodox Lessons from 400+ Patents, Solving the Impossible, Real Al vs. “AI”, Hiring Richard Feynman, Working with Steve Jobs, Creating Parallel Computing, and Much More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, I'll tell you one that's already happened, but it was like that for me is traveling all over the world. Chris was super interested in maps and looking at maps of where I was and so on. And I always wanted to take a map and like expand it and just go into it. I had that dream since I was a kid.”
2024-12-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #782: Legendary Inventor Danny Hillis (Plus Kevin Kelly) — Unorthodox Lessons from 400+ Patents, Solving the Impossible, Real Al vs. “AI”, Hiring Richard Feynman, Working with Steve Jobs, Creating Parallel Computing, and Much More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Had either a sensor on it or a robot moving it around, or you had the information of the pressures and the motion and you had a model of tissue deformation and speed of sound through tissue and things like that Image like from an MRI with altarsound that would actually have information that you don't get from MRI and that just hasn't been done yet. I'd love to meet people who are doing that. If they don't do it, I might have to work on it myself.”
2024-12-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #782: Legendary Inventor Danny Hillis (Plus Kevin Kelly) — Unorthodox Lessons from 400+ Patents, Solving the Impossible, Real Al vs. “AI”, Hiring Richard Feynman, Working with Steve Jobs, Creating Parallel Computing, and Much More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Ultrasound these days is not like that ultrasound really the person that's doing the ultrasound has a lot more information than is captured in a picture or a video because they know how they're moving it around. They know that they're pushing it past this, they're shoving in this direction. They're using this muscle to be a lens to magnify the thing behind it. You know, they have the intent of where they're moving it, why they're moving it. And so they can perceive a whole lot more. And then they have to take what they perceive and write it into report with maybe a few numbers measured or something like that. But it's not nearly as satisfying what gets to the physician is not as useful as an x-ray or an MRI or a CAT scan or something like that. Well, there's no reason that ultrasound has to be like that.”
2024-12-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #782: Legendary Inventor Danny Hillis (Plus Kevin Kelly) — Unorthodox Lessons from 400+ Patents, Solving the Impossible, Real Al vs. “AI”, Hiring Richard Feynman, Working with Steve Jobs, Creating Parallel Computing, and Much More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Am working on something. Won't do everything in MRI do, but I think it'll be more useful based on ultrasound. And here's the funny thing MRI. The great thing about an MRI is it produces this 3D image and it can go to the doctor, the radiologist, and they can interpret it or an AI can interpret it because you've got. An output that is some disconnected from the process of measuring it.”
2024-12-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #782: Legendary Inventor Danny Hillis (Plus Kevin Kelly) — Unorthodox Lessons from 400+ Patents, Solving the Impossible, Real Al vs. “AI”, Hiring Richard Feynman, Working with Steve Jobs, Creating Parallel Computing, and Much More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The first version of it would be a blood test. You know, it might be a fingerprick that you would do regularly and just monitor it. But right now it's just, again, we have so few because of the way the medical system is set up, we have lots of blood samples, but we don't have the blood samples very well correlated with the medical records and so on. So it needs some big sort of population studies where you get a lot of regular blood samples that you get good proteomic inventories, which is a technology that is not quite there yet because there's no commercial opportunity for it yet or limited commercial opportunities for it yet. But as soon as you start doing that and you start correlating what's happening with people, what was happening with their proteins before they got sick, as soon as you get that database, then I think we'll be able to head off a lot.”
2024-12-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #782: Legendary Inventor Danny Hillis (Plus Kevin Kelly) — Unorthodox Lessons from 400+ Patents, Solving the Impossible, Real Al vs. “AI”, Hiring Richard Feynman, Working with Steve Jobs, Creating Parallel Computing, and Much More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Theronos thing which sort of gave a bad name to all that field and made it impossible to fund. So that was sort of the tragedy of that is that sort of one fraudulent thing kind of gave a whole field a bad name. But it will come back and it may come back soon enough to actually help you and members of your family. And there are people that are doing that. So look for people who are doing that. I love to meet people who are doing that, but I think that's the path.”
2024-12-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #782: Legendary Inventor Danny Hillis (Plus Kevin Kelly) — Unorthodox Lessons from 400+ Patents, Solving the Impossible, Real Al vs. “AI”, Hiring Richard Feynman, Working with Steve Jobs, Creating Parallel Computing, and Much More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So your body is great at masking things going wrong. If you could look at the proteins in the body, then you could see things are starting to go wrong before you're showing any symptoms. And you could see what was going wrong. And you could start treating it before the damage starts happening. Right now, we start treating things after there's already lots of damage, enough damage that your body can't hide it. And so we need to head off diseases rather than treating diseases. We need to treat when you're on the way to getting a disease, not when you have a disease. And the only way to do that is to have this debugger to understand what's going inside. And the only way to do that is to look at the proteins. And that's a technical problem. It's a very solvable problem. We've got a long way to solving it, actually. And unfortunately, it was kind of all screwed up by the...”
2024-12-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #782: Legendary Inventor Danny Hillis (Plus Kevin Kelly) — Unorthodox Lessons from 400+ Patents, Solving the Impossible, Real Al vs. “AI”, Hiring Richard Feynman, Working with Steve Jobs, Creating Parallel Computing, and Much More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I know I had to go about that, and somebody should do it, which is the same thing with cancer, with the cancer thing. What we really need is we need a way to read out the proteins in your body dynamically. Like we can read out your genes. And if we could really monitor that and read it out, you could find the processes that create disease before disease happens. So right now, when we treat disease, the cat's out of the bag, your body does a great job of compensating for everything for a long time until it just can't handle it. But things have already gone a long way before you show an AN symptom.”
2024-12-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #782: Legendary Inventor Danny Hillis (Plus Kevin Kelly) — Unorthodox Lessons from 400+ Patents, Solving the Impossible, Real Al vs. “AI”, Hiring Richard Feynman, Working with Steve Jobs, Creating Parallel Computing, and Much More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And then what happened with that was Herman Miller bought that technology for use in offices. It was actually a very sad thing. They set up a company to start it Much to my surprise, the restaurants got very interested in it, which sort of bugs me because I hate all of the noise and restaurants. But things like the line at the pharmacy was interested and so on. But it was very sad because the CEO had a heart attack and nobody had the heart to keep going. So we'll never know if the technology would have worked.”
2024-12-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #782: Legendary Inventor Danny Hillis (Plus Kevin Kelly) — Unorthodox Lessons from 400+ Patents, Solving the Impossible, Real Al vs. “AI”, Hiring Richard Feynman, Working with Steve Jobs, Creating Parallel Computing, and Much More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“In your voice and kind of your intonation and so on, and sort of talked over you out to the people around you. So the phenomenon was that the room got a little bit louder, but mostly people did notice that. Mostly there was just kind of a little buzz. But if you actually try to listen in on the conversation of the person on the desk next to you,”
2024-12-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #782: Legendary Inventor Danny Hillis (Plus Kevin Kelly) — Unorthodox Lessons from 400+ Patents, Solving the Impossible, Real Al vs. “AI”, Hiring Richard Feynman, Working with Steve Jobs, Creating Parallel Computing, and Much More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's actually a cool thing that somebody should do, but it was originally the problem of open offices and people overhearing each other's conversations. And so it turns out that the best thing to mask a conversation is somebody talking in exactly the same voice saying something different. And so this was a little machine that people could put on their desk and we tested it. It worked, which is that it sort of listened to you talking for a while. And then it started talking kind of in your voice, but saying and just making up kind of babble.”
2024-12-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #782: Legendary Inventor Danny Hillis (Plus Kevin Kelly) — Unorthodox Lessons from 400+ Patents, Solving the Impossible, Real Al vs. “AI”, Hiring Richard Feynman, Working with Steve Jobs, Creating Parallel Computing, and Much More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“A very specific example today. If you ask most people, you know, would you like a chip inside your brain that augmented your brain and helped pretty much everybody you talk to is going to say no. Wouldn't want that and they'll give you lots of very good reasons why they don't want it. And a lot of them are valid. But boy, I'm pretty sure that when that becomes possible, everybody's going to want one. Yeah, I think it'll be just like the cell phones. It'll just do so much for you that yeah, you'll put up with the problems. You'll work around with the problems, but it'll be.”
2024-12-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #782: Legendary Inventor Danny Hillis (Plus Kevin Kelly) — Unorthodox Lessons from 400+ Patents, Solving the Impossible, Real Al vs. “AI”, Hiring Richard Feynman, Working with Steve Jobs, Creating Parallel Computing, and Much More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“In some sense, it's much harder to imagine solutions to problems than it is to imagine problems. This is kind of a trivial example. But when the technology for cell phones was being developed by Motorola, and I kind of knew about it, I went around and I told all my friends. Going to have a phone in your pocket someday. You'll be just like Star Trek. And every single one of them without exceptions said, oh, I would never want that. And they gave all kind of reasonable reasons. They solved the problems. They were like, well, if people were on the bus, everybody would be talking on the phone and a restaurant. People would be getting phone calls. You know, people would interrupt me in the middle of the night with the wrong number. They could see all of the problems very vividly.”
2024-12-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #782: Legendary Inventor Danny Hillis (Plus Kevin Kelly) — Unorthodox Lessons from 400+ Patents, Solving the Impossible, Real Al vs. “AI”, Hiring Richard Feynman, Working with Steve Jobs, Creating Parallel Computing, and Much More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I don't deny that AI is an existential risk for humans as we know them. Maybe what's good about humans could go on in AIs. I think that's a possibility. I actually think it's more likely that AIs will help us get out of this”
2024-12-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #782: Legendary Inventor Danny Hillis (Plus Kevin Kelly) — Unorthodox Lessons from 400+ Patents, Solving the Impossible, Real Al vs. “AI”, Hiring Richard Feynman, Working with Steve Jobs, Creating Parallel Computing, and Much More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Very slowly, and it's continuing to happen. And so I think that the world has actually been getting steadily better, but there was almost no headlines about the things that did that. They weren't the attention getters.”
2024-12-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #782: Legendary Inventor Danny Hillis (Plus Kevin Kelly) — Unorthodox Lessons from 400+ Patents, Solving the Impossible, Real Al vs. “AI”, Hiring Richard Feynman, Working with Steve Jobs, Creating Parallel Computing, and Much More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Furthest away today. It's full of bad things. The plane crashed. The war started and, you know. There was no newspaper headline that said, the majority of the kids aren't hungry anymore. Because that happened.”
2024-12-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #782: Legendary Inventor Danny Hillis (Plus Kevin Kelly) — Unorthodox Lessons from 400+ Patents, Solving the Impossible, Real Al vs. “AI”, Hiring Richard Feynman, Working with Steve Jobs, Creating Parallel Computing, and Much More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“On all kinds of things that are going to help with it in ways that are hard to imagine. And so some of those are likely to work. And it's kind of easier to imagine catastrophes than it is to imagine magic solutions. So it was easier for people to imagine that the population explosion was going to doom us. You know, that was a real easy idea. Actually, Kevin was the first person to point out to me, I think, that actually our big problem in a century from now is going to be the population shrink implosion. And people are starting to realize that already. And it was just hard for people to see. So we're kind of hardwired to pay attention to danger. And also, it is an effect, which is that bad things happen fast and good things happen slow.”
2024-12-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #782: Legendary Inventor Danny Hillis (Plus Kevin Kelly) — Unorthodox Lessons from 400+ Patents, Solving the Impossible, Real Al vs. “AI”, Hiring Richard Feynman, Working with Steve Jobs, Creating Parallel Computing, and Much More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I don't That people underestimate the problem. It's like a really big problem and it's going to cause a lot of difficulties. But people do underestimate our ability to deal with problems. And so, yeah, it's going to be bad, and it's already starting to be bad for people. But people have dealt with a lot of bad stuff and come out of it and come out of it better and come out of it as improvement. So I don't minimize the difficulties of climate change and the challenges. And it's going to be a mess, but I also know that there's a lot of super smart”
2024-12-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #782: Legendary Inventor Danny Hillis (Plus Kevin Kelly) — Unorthodox Lessons from 400+ Patents, Solving the Impossible, Real Al vs. “AI”, Hiring Richard Feynman, Working with Steve Jobs, Creating Parallel Computing, and Much More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Thousand year clock decide what to do with it when it comes to the end of this 10,000 years. But it won't be steady progress. It never has been. And so there's a bunch of things to worry about. I see why people are worried, but the bigger the picture you look at, the more you realize, I guess progress isn't a steady upwards thing. It's kind of two steps forward, one step back.”
2024-12-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #782: Legendary Inventor Danny Hillis (Plus Kevin Kelly) — Unorthodox Lessons from 400+ Patents, Solving the Impossible, Real Al vs. “AI”, Hiring Richard Feynman, Working with Steve Jobs, Creating Parallel Computing, and Much More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Compared to being alive now, especially if you're going to be born in a random place in six. But even I wouldn't want to be a king a hundred years, much better to be a peasant today than to be a king of a couple of centuries ago in terms of your health, your food that you ate, how you spend your time, so on. So your comfort, everything. possible that some catastrophic setback that could happen but even if that happens i kind of believe that humans are adaptable enough or nature is adaptable enough that it'll pick up and start up again i suppose there's a scenario where it's without humans and something else but i certainly optimistic you know the earth is going to be fine and i actually do believe that you know there are people that are going to see that”
2024-12-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #782: Legendary Inventor Danny Hillis (Plus Kevin Kelly) — Unorthodox Lessons from 400+ Patents, Solving the Impossible, Real Al vs. “AI”, Hiring Richard Feynman, Working with Steve Jobs, Creating Parallel Computing, and Much More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And we're malnourished, we're likely to die of childhood diseases. That's not true anymore. So when I was a kid, you know, I had friends I now understand were gay friends and I only understood later and understood what they were going through. But they couldn't say that to anybody. So there were so many things to be frightened about and yet there were so many ways in which the world just got so much better. And even in my lifetime it did. And it's true that, you know, it also, we created a lot of problems in that process, but we've always created a lot of problems. So I guess, you know, if I just look at the sweep of history, there isn't any time when you'd say, oh, I would do better going back 100 years, or at least, you know, not in history. You would not want to be alive 100 years ago.”
2024-12-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #782: Legendary Inventor Danny Hillis (Plus Kevin Kelly) — Unorthodox Lessons from 400+ Patents, Solving the Impossible, Real Al vs. “AI”, Hiring Richard Feynman, Working with Steve Jobs, Creating Parallel Computing, and Much More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT