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Dave Camarillo

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“Yeah, and that's part of what I was talking about. You have to assess the situation for what it is and what it could be. And that escalated outside of his control. You know, you brought a fist to a gunfight. That's essentially what happened. You're just outgunned.”
2016-10-30 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #196: Meet the Machine, Dave Camarillo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I got to go after this guy. So he assessed, like, he even talked about, I assessed, does he have a weapon? Because that's dangerous when you go hands-on situations like that. Runs after the guy, turns the corner, throws him on the ground, wraps him up, cops come in and take care of the rest. He's all over the news talking about like, all right, dude, jiu-jitsu and judo because you never know when you're going to need it. You know what I mean?”
2016-10-30 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #196: Meet the Machine, Dave Camarillo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's absolutely right. But I didn't get the story. There's another photo where he's posing like he's a superhero in his gi just joking, but it's like he just finishes. So he has an academy in Bakersfield downtown Bakersfield. He just finishes class and he walks outside just to get a breath of fresh air or whatever it is. And bone, this car runs into at the light, runs into this other car, the guy jumps out who initiated the accident, starts running down the street. The lady in the other car yells and screams, he's getting away. There's a helicopter there with a spotlight down coming. So he's like in his head, he's like, okay, this is, I don't know.”
2016-10-30 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #196: Meet the Machine, Dave Camarillo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“He's older. And so we grew up with that. Like, we were each other's best training partners. Four years apart, which is totally unfair. Because the physical advantages are just too far away for me to match, which is how mean the younger brother tends to be, which is how it is. But he's a phenomenal judoka, does jiu-jitsu, black belt sweeps, throws people, just destroys people. He's a vigilante. Like he went after a fugitive that crashed in front of his academy. Did you hear about this? It was all over National News.”
2016-10-30 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #196: Meet the Machine, Dave Camarillo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, Well, you got to understand my background. I was forced into martial arts. I was pretty much programmed to be who I am today. Like my parents, I think we're brilliant in that they put us in martial arts and it became like brushing our teeth. You're not going to get out of brushing your teeth. You're not going to get out of going to school as a kid. You're not going to get out of doing judo. Is your brother older”
2016-10-30 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #196: Meet the Machine, Dave Camarillo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“There's a video. I don't even remember the name of it, but it's Camriel Brothers sparring. Demo something. I mean, you can find it. We were just way back, but”
2016-10-30 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #196: Meet the Machine, Dave Camarillo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think it could have been past training sessions. It could have been they met on a, they just connected naturally through their relationship. It could be their brother, you know, like Nick Diaz, Nate Diaz, you know what I mean? Like they have that kind of connection.”
2016-10-30 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #196: Meet the Machine, Dave Camarillo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So that's one variable. The other variables, who are they comfortable with? Like... You can build this camaraderie with somebody who's maybe not even there in training camp very often, but you have this trust and you want them in your corner kind of thing.”
2016-10-30 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #196: Meet the Machine, Dave Camarillo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“He's one of my biggest mentors in the MMA field. Probably one of the best corners in the world. You can hear him no matter what. He's got a distinct voice where you're going to hear it. If it's like a rougher voice, it kind of just, it's like white noise.”
2016-10-30 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #196: Meet the Machine, Dave Camarillo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yes, and there's other variables. Like sometimes it's just their voice. Their voice is easy to pick up because you have all the noise and just like Bob Cook.”
2016-10-30 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #196: Meet the Machine, Dave Camarillo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's to be simple. We don't, you know, he's And generally, you can have three corners, but like Generally, the fighter is going to hear one guy. And it depends on the guy. Like, they are very accustomed to one. They have that channel. So even though there's three people, one guy generally will talk during the fight. That's during the fight. So they make that connection, that verbal connection. Does that tend to be a person?”
2016-10-30 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #196: Meet the Machine, Dave Camarillo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That's what's amazing about fighting. Even if you're not a fan, like, what can the human body do if you give them this set of rules and inspiration to be a champion and then go?”
2016-10-30 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #196: Meet the Machine, Dave Camarillo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Make it work. And the foot sweep is one of those techniques that you're like, no, this is impossible to someone who doesn't understand it. It's in movies alone, but I can do it and I've done it on many times on untrained people who go, hey, Dave, like you do martial arts, right? I go, yeah. I used to do this on my cousins when I was younger. But anyway. I would throw them all over the place, and they would just be like their minds couldn't wrap around, you know. Like you said, it's like magic. Like, how do you do how do you get the timing down? How do you do this? Well, you do it over and over again. You can accomplish anything. Rocket science is not rocket science if you're a rocket scientist. You know what I mean? If you've done it over and over and over again”
2016-10-30 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #196: Meet the Machine, Dave Camarillo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Because the beginning of the MMA revolution was essentially seeing two people actually fight. That hasn't been done before the revolution on a large scale. Horian Gracie made this thing called the UFC and then. Put these styles against each other, right? And then it started, people started realizing like, wow, so all that we've been lied to. And you can hear a lot of the in the beginning, they're like, you can't do any of these other, those are flashy, I'm not going to mention systems, but like, that's not going to work. The movies lied to us. And the reality, like now that we've seen it progress and move on, you can do anything.”
2016-10-30 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #196: Meet the Machine, Dave Camarillo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Moves like that and understanding how you elevate yourself as a martial artist, like mixed martial arts and just being young, being physically able and fast and athletic, I've realized like all of the movies we've seen that have martial arts in fighting people. They're more accurate. Now, in the beginning, I'm going to try to make sense of this, but in the beginning of the MMA revolution.”
2016-10-30 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #196: Meet the Machine, Dave Camarillo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, for people who like a foot sweep is essentially taking somebody, sweeping their foot out. Like it's, like it says, but like you can have their feet go above their head, their head go down, and them land on their back. I think it's the quickest way to embarrass somebody.”
2016-10-30 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #196: Meet the Machine, Dave Camarillo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And I make that point because. Lot of people go down these like rabbit holes and they do things that have nothing, there's very little relation to a universal sense. So I can do it in judo. I can do it in jiu-jitsu. I can do it no gi. So no uniform. I can do it in MMA. I can do it in self-defense.”
2016-10-30 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #196: Meet the Machine, Dave Camarillo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“C A N T O. Flavio Canto, friend of mine, He had Gudnewaz as well, and I think that's, I mean, it's pretty simple. Like, I like the ground, I like the Tachiwaza. What's your favorite throw? A throw that I can kind of do both”
2016-10-30 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #196: Meet the Machine, Dave Camarillo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And that's essentially the goal go. When you're 40 years old, you don't want to do Randor. But we can still me and you get our geese on or no gi it doesn't matter, and actually grapple injuj And do it pretty much for the rest of our lives like we talked about with a good partner. So, the longevity aspect of it, it's outmatched in the sparring. You can spar. We can go back and forth and have resistance and have a set goal of you choking me, me choking you.”
2016-10-30 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #196: Meet the Machine, Dave Camarillo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So just imagine for those of the people who don't understand, we have that guy on and we're grabbing each other and we're trying to lift each other off the ground with technique, off balance you, lift you off the ground, apply our technique. And then once you're off the ground, essentially I have total control of you. So I will slam you on the ground as hard as I can. And the harder and the more on your back you land, the more purit is and the more chance the match is over.”
2016-10-30 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #196: Meet the Machine, Dave Camarillo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The motivations Right. Now, if you're 20 years old and 15 years old or whatever it is and you just want to do MMA and you want to fight professionally, well, then go do MMA. That's great. You better have good jujitsu anyway. You know what I mean? Like, that's such a component. It's what I call a universal. Usage. It has universal usage. You can compete. You can nerd out on the self defense aspect. You can apply it to MMA context. You can use it in self-defense. Guys can use it going to war. You can do it forever. It's the one sparring, I would say art that you can do forever. Like, hey, Tim, right now, I'm going to ask you a question. You ready? Do you want to do Randori, like Judo Randi? Now, hard 100%. No, what's Rand”
2016-10-30 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #196: Meet the Machine, Dave Camarillo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Probably one of the best heavyweights in the history of UFC. All the way to Using very simple controlled techniques and movements to corral someone out of my house. You know, that's the spectrum that I deal with. But that's jiu-jitsu. We offer it with our system. And I see like in a lot of other arts, it's not necessarily that capable without saying like we're better than you. I'm not saying that. I'm saying there's something for everybody. But if you're telling me 34 year old school teacher who's never done anything in their lives. You have to check out Jiu-Jitsu because a lot of the situations, especially women that potentially could find themselves on the ground.”
2016-10-30 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #196: Meet the Machine, Dave Camarillo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Wait, that's a surgeon paid for. I had a torn bicep Glad I did not get the surgery. Let's just say Okay, so I had this conversation on my podcast. Like, I'm like, what is the greatest martial art? What is it? And I've always reluctant to say jiu-jitsu is the greatest martial art because I'm very big on I need to get to a point where I can say that with extreme confidence. Because there's always this like, I see a lot of people that, you know, you have a jiu-jitsu black belt who only did jujitsu say jiu-jitsu is the greatest martial art in the world. And I'm like, I agree with you, but why? Like, why do you think it is? I've sampled so many different, I've been so uncomfortable training shock knifed on the bottom of like Kane Velasquez punching me in the face.”
2016-10-30 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #196: Meet the Machine, Dave Camarillo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Law enforcement because they're dealing with life and death situations. I don't think I was, you know what I mean, but I'm prepared for it. I don't think I was.”
2016-10-30 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #196: Meet the Machine, Dave Camarillo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That starts with mental composure, but we have the technique to do that as well, and control the elements that would give you the opportunity to kind of spiral things out of control. And that's what law enforcement, same thing with law enforcement. That's”
2016-10-30 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #196: Meet the Machine, Dave Camarillo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“First off, he didn't realize that it had gotten out of control. And then he realized how much control I had of him, which I think helps him come to that first conclusion. And that's how you de escalate a situation where not all self defense confrontations are life threatening. I mean, they could spiral like we talked about, but he's my buddy. Like, I don't want to hurt my buddy. It's just one of those things. So when your system that you choose, In my opinion, and this is what we nerd out on and focus on understanding and giving you the tools that you need to be composed and also throttle it up if you need to and throttle it down.”
2016-10-30 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #196: Meet the Machine, Dave Camarillo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I got him out. Okay, so he slowly calmed down and realized, and literally you can see a switch go off like, okay, wow, I.”
2016-10-30 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #196: Meet the Machine, Dave Camarillo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Like, I'm not yelling and screaming, but I'm very firm and like, this is your only way out, essentially, is through my door so that we don't have to.”
2016-10-30 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #196: Meet the Machine, Dave Camarillo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And Muay Thai, and then he whips out. Then he starts. You know, because I don't know what's going on in his head. Maybe now it's like survival. So he grabs a knife. Maybe he doesn't. Maybe he's out of his head And I don't want to hurt my friend. So I wrapped his arms up and put him against my door. He couldn't even move. So I neutralized his ability to escalate by getting a knife or whatever it is or even hitting me. And I was able to look at him face to face while wrapping him up and say, hey, man, you need to calm down right now. And then that tone comes in to totally tell him, physically he knows he's under control. Now it's verbal. Hey, I'm giving you an out right now. You need to calm down right now or it's going to get much worse.”
2016-10-30 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #196: Meet the Machine, Dave Camarillo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, exactly. Trying to, yeah. So I wrapped up his arms because I noticed he had a knife on him And I'm not saying that he's going to use that knife, but few things going on, just my perspective. Decided to go hands on, which means I'm not turning back. Once I've decided I can't turn back because that invites him to continue the behavior, which I don't want. It's gotten out of hand. And I'm desensitized enough to be composed to not throttle up and to see how the threat can spiral and get worse. So if my end goal is to de-escalate the situation, I don't want to give him an opportunity to escalate it any further.”
2016-10-30 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #196: Meet the Machine, Dave Camarillo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And what you're using is damage. And so I use Jujitsu in a standing position. He was standing and I'm not throwing him on the ground. I'm just going to use Jujitsu. And he's still my friend. I don't care. Like, just that's the way.”
2016-10-30 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #196: Meet the Machine, Dave Camarillo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“This has to be resolved. Let's say I only did Muay Thai. I like Muay Th Am I going to clinch him and knee him? You know what I mean? High kick him in the head? Not saying that's what you would do, but”
2016-10-30 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #196: Meet the Machine, Dave Camarillo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, he pushed somebody I care very much about. And I, okay, it's like red flag. And I started getting in between them. And he was just thinking it was a joke. And I remember the moment to which I had to go hands-on, I'm like, okay, I'm going hands-on and I'm kicking this guy out of my house. He has to go. I'm not mad at him.”
2016-10-30 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #196: Meet the Machine, Dave Camarillo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think Rob Magui's excellent. The only thing A spectrum for everything, so low intensity to high intensity, right? It's very high intensity. Self defense encounter also has a spectrum. So the number one goal of self defense encounter is to de escalate the situation, to make things safe and calm. Now you can throttle up and throttle down to make that happen. You're only used to throttling up You're cutting out 80% or 60%, whatever. You're cutting out the lower end of that spectrum. So, for example, I'll give you a perfect example. Muay Thai too. Muay Thai is like dangerous stuff, man. I was in my house and I had a friend who got intoxicated And he was so intoxicated. Everyone handles their alcohol differently, but he started becoming obnoxious and touchy and pushy.”
2016-10-30 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #196: Meet the Machine, Dave Camarillo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Okay, so I've seen at least all of those I've seen Krav Maga. I haven't trained it, but I've definitely studied it as a student, not as a student, but like observing it from, I'm like, because I'm interested in it. As a research.”
2016-10-30 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #196: Meet the Machine, Dave Camarillo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It just spirals out of control and emotions, and people forget that we're human beings and that we should be civilized and all that. And that goes out the window. A good coach has to control the intensity level to which these drills are experienced. But if I have somebody who's never done anything, it's incremental. And you work on their pace, but everyone has the, I would say, ability to. Push their envelopes, escalate, like move, I would say upwards from where they're at. It just, like you said, you learn by doing, like Whitney Cummings. She said, get out there.”
2016-10-30 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #196: Meet the Machine, Dave Camarillo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I don't verbally do that I come back at you And then it's like that cartoon where, like, you know, one little knife and then a gun, and it just keeps escalating until you see the little world and their big old, you know what I'm talking about”
2016-10-30 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #196: Meet the Machine, Dave Camarillo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Incrementally, and I look at the client, like I look at you and I'm like, what does this guy used to? So let's say he's like military but has never sparred before. We can start kind of in the middle. We'll do drills. We'll do specific drills where we face each other and we punch each other, but you're blocking, but it's light punching and you as a good coach, you control the intensity level so that there's no, it's not getting out of control. There's no emotions because during this training, and I've seen it all at different levels, but it gets emotional like you punch me and like, hey, that was too hard. What are you doing?”
2016-10-30 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #196: Meet the Machine, Dave Camarillo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“An MMA fighter gets punched and they either smile or they move their head before you punch them or if you punch them they're like, okay, cool. I'm gonna fight. Cool. Because they've been there so many times. Like getting lost, I'd say traveling. I use this analogy. If you travel and have never been to a certain city and you tell me all about the city, but I'm going to get lost. Been there 10 times the next time I go there. I'm like, okay, I know where I'm at no matter what I'm barely paying attention to driving. It's just like I got it, no problem. It's this sense of comfort that you develop under stress. So like immediately when something happens, you know something's going down. What's your mind doing? If it's freaking out, then it doesn't matter what technique I teach you. Because the will to execute is going to be stagnant.”
2016-10-30 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #196: Meet the Machine, Dave Camarillo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You're walking out without weapons, but you potentially could face someone with a weapon. That's the thing. Like, how far, like the question arises, how far are you willing to go to actually Defend yourself, you know what I mean? That's the first question. So, what's your threshold? What's your mental capacity to dig deep and make it happen? Make your family safe, make yourself get out of that situation. Sometimes it's assessing the situation for what it is. Then there's another part desensitizing yourself to many things. That is what jiu-jitsu does, getting grabbed, getting choked, getting punched. You know what I mean? If I get punched, we'll talk about that for a second. If I get punched and I it rattles me Then I get punched again. It rattles me again, and then it just continues. It spirals.”
2016-10-30 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #196: Meet the Machine, Dave Camarillo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“$4,000 laptop. Yeah, exactly, exactly. But don't allow yourself to be distracted. Don't allow yourself to look like a victim. So I teach people to own their walk. The way you walk, the way you carry yourself, because the bad guys will just say, right, they're very much like animal predators. They look for weakness. They don't want an entanglement. They don't want to struggle like a shark even. It's assessing fat content versus how much struggle will it be to end that life to consume it. I don't want to injure myself. And so the idea like, I don't know if you see like really strong, confident looking people walking around, not looking at their cell phone getting attacked. I mean, I'm sure it can happen, but you're lowering the ratio to which that you can become a victim. And I think that's the first part of avoidance. It's not what technique can I use right now.”
2016-10-30 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #196: Meet the Machine, Dave Camarillo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You know what I'm saying? Like, I learned that from you. I'm like, man, so I don't have any chocolate in my house. But avoid, like avoid, like literally, like avoid. Being caught off guard, for example”
2016-10-30 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #196: Meet the Machine, Dave Camarillo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Let's start with what's, I think, the most important for somebody who doesn't have a lot of time to train. I think that's a better start. So I think understanding, I would say. Conceptual understanding of how do I avoid certain circumstances, certain situations. So for example, law enforcement we have on a board of different cities and then put tax on there on different crimes like violent crime that tend to accumulate in certain areas. This is just the way I explain it. Well, don't go to those areas. So avoid. These conflicts, like it's very simple. Don't like you taught me one time, you know, if you don't want to eat chocolate, like if you love chocolate, but you know it's bad for you, don't have it in your house.”
2016-10-30 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #196: Meet the Machine, Dave Camarillo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That's the idea though, but if it's like me or you, like, I got to use my surroundings. That's the idea behind self defense. It's not just my empty hand capabilities, not just all these principles that we talk about, like getting angles and things like that, but it's like, I strip you of all that, then what do you got? Well, I got a pillow, I got just, you know, I can use it as a distraction. I can. All kinds of things like that, but we're surrounded by tools, and that's one of the things that I've learned over the years is use your surroundings like MacGyver. You know what I mean? But in a self-defense context, you know.”
2016-10-30 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #196: Meet the Machine, Dave Camarillo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Is a really good, yeah, it's like a 5'11. It's got that you can, I carried everywhere, it's in my backpack right now, but you can like break windows and stuff like that. But, you know, you know how they market things like you can break windows like, I don't want to break windows. Like I would never break a window.”
2016-10-30 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #196: Meet the Machine, Dave Camarillo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And I mean, that's good boxing. So I get an angle, punch you, and as you correct, I'm getting the angle. Because now we're both moving in the same direction. So I pop out in the other side Can't do any of those, so I have to develop worst case scenario in the pocket, a savage situation where I have to quickly kind of escalate things. And so you grab the, yeah, you grab the flashlight, you blind them, you grab them. You proceed to use the flashlight as a tool.”
2016-10-30 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #196: Meet the Machine, Dave Camarillo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So I'm forced to face this threat. Usually we'd have tactics to kind of get offline. We do this in jiu-jitsu. We do this in everything we do. So if I'm offline, I'm outside of your radar, meaning if you're facing forward and I'm, we'll just keep it easy. Like I'm behind you. You're not punching me. But if you're coming up the stairway, Or turning the corner, and it's a narrow”
2016-10-30 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #196: Meet the Machine, Dave Camarillo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, all the way into the jawline to where you can. Essentially either blind them by creating fluid in the eye because I can poke you in the eye and the fight can be over. Really is sure all the time.”
2016-10-30 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #196: Meet the Machine, Dave Camarillo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's going to sound violent for people, but you're in your home and you're protecting your family situation kind of. And so I even started nerding out on the grip on the flashlight. So I know MMA has hammerfists. I mean, we can punch straight. A hammer fist is just like I have a hammer in my hand. So I'm bringing the blade of my wrist down on the body or the head, not the back of the head because I don't want to break my hand. But traditionally in what we call the triangle of the head.”
2016-10-30 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #196: Meet the Machine, Dave Camarillo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, if I develop a curriculum where I'm using elements of the hockey kind of fight, I would say range, like you can call it hockey pocket, like because we call it the pocket unboxing. You're right there where he can hit you and you can hit him. Instead of fully clinching, like if it's a home invasion, I don't know who they're with and you get surprised. You know what I mean? Like around the corner, whatever, that's the kind of situation that we're dealing with. And then you have a flashlight. So that's the kind of like parameters I'm working with. The first thing I would do is get a grip to control the threat. You're controlling the person in front of you and then utilize the flashlight. And remember.”
2016-10-30 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #196: Meet the Machine, Dave Camarillo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT