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  1. He'll explain all this, this guy, McIntyre guy. He'll explain all this, and then he goes, But really, you just got to be tougher than the other guy and just keep punching him really violently until he goes down. Like he would go back and forth between here's the technique, but then in the end, just get out there and just beat the guy up. You know what I mean? Like it just became like...

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  2. When the gloves go down, you have to know. I would assume you would have to know that player played against that team before. You can nerd out on this and go, I think he's a right-handed player. But then you see a stance, then you're like making these quick adjustments. You get your grip and you're also kind of shielding yourself with that grip. So you'll raise your elbow as his right hand comes across to try to connect with your head. You can use your helmet also like a shield. So we're nerding out on all these little details. That's the left side, sorry. Right hand, which is I'm right-handed. I'm punching you in the face or in the body. I'm clearing your grip because you're trying to do the same thing to me, essentially. And I'm parrying and blocking and trying to make you go down before I go down.

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  3. Right. So able to control movement, but you're also able to defend against his right hand. So if I'm using my left hand, I'm defending against your right hand. Hopefully you're right-handed, but they'll make adjustments, right

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  4. To control a few things, control his movement so you can move him up down left, right? You can off balance in like the kazushi we talked about.

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  5. Yeah, so if he moved forward on you, there's a backstop with your grip. There's a backstop with your grip if he moves in.

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  6. Okay, so since you have a jersey, which is very much like a ghee, you know, we have that friction of grabbing. The best place to grab is inside the shoulder

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  7. Yeah, so it's the same. It's the same. And like he goes back and forth between, yeah, you could get brain damage. But man, I like the way things used to be, you know, and we would just fight and it was just about, you know, the guy, especially when I had kids, he would just try to take food off my kids' plate and all that. And I'm just like, go, just keep going. So he finally got to the technique part and it was just, I'm laughing. I'm already laughing. And I'm like, I'm having a great time, but I'm also learning. It's an education because under those specific circumstances, the rules.

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  8. He's an enforcer and he's retired. My buddy gave me his number, so I'm like, I'm trying to do research and I need to talk to somebody who's been in the field. Been in the hockey field, been in fights, but why not talk to someone who's a bruiser, who's really good at it, right? And the man, I want to put him, you should have him on the podcast. Just listen, just do that. You would do this. You go, explain hockey fights and then put the mic in front of him and he will just go. Sounds like a great job.

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  9. Excuse me if I'm wrong, but he's full on Canadian accent. And I was doing research. So I'm talking to this guy. I'm like, you were a bruiser. So give me some feedback. He

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  10. So I said, well, I want a little bit more of the story. Like, what's the situation? Well, home invasion, hallway, you're surprised. Because I would think if that's the case, then maybe have a gun or something. In this case, okay, so I'm restricted to the flashlight. I'm like, okay, so. That aside for a second, and I remember recently putting together a fight camp for a hockey player plays in the NHL, one of the top teams, right? And he came down for a four day fight camp. And I'm starting to get good at like developing these fight camps that specifically cater. Individuals that fight but under different rules. It could be judo, it could be jiu-jitsu in this case hockey, NHL. So I talked to this guy, I forgot his name. I think it's like Scott McIntyre.

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  11. Every time we go shooting, you know, if I take a student or something, I can see the difference between men and women very, very quickly. And, you know, it seems that there's so much more patient, willing to accept failure, go down the list. So, my mom has been an amazing, I would say, influence on accepting failure to a crazy type A personality that I've developed probably since the womb.

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  12. It's just instinctive shooting. Instinctive shooter. He shot a. I think it was a. Deer running 50 yards in the head. And we, I mean, Bullet happened to hit the deer in the head. But like I said, he can quickly bring that gun up and pull the trigger and get things going, apply those incremental fundamental nuances quickly. Where my mom, if you give her her rest, she's like a sniper, like rest, just hang out 400, 500 yard shots, no problem.

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  13. Hopefully, my dad doesn't listen to this, but my mom is the best shot in the family. She's a different kind of shot. My father can do it under stress very quickly

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  14. Right. So, yeah, you're somewhat creative understanding that you're increasing your spectrum of, you know, tool sets. So I grew up with parents who hunt and I grew up killing my own meat and shooting. And then when I started training military, I did a lot of firearms training with pistols. Who's the best shot in your M4s and stuff like that? My mom is the...

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  15. So, I tend to get random texts, I would say, problem solving texts, and they could be jujitsu related, judo-related from different students. My buddy, who's a retired Marine, sent me a text. He's like, do you have a curriculum fighting with a flashlight? I'm like, no, but give me five minutes. I say that with confidence essentially because I've done so many different types of training with different people under different rule sets or no rules or whatever the situation in different environments and everything I say right now is just running down the stairs of variations and variables.

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  16. I have video of me using very colorful language, being held down sweating. And my partner on top is John Fitch Where he could do that just punching me.

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  17. Could be blood brothers. And then ruined relationships. Throw a shock knife and train. And then the idea is like the second somebody got it. And it's kind of a double edged sword. He becomes the enemy, and you have to collectively work to take that shock knife away from him. Variations of the scene drill.

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  18. Purdue, captain at the American Kickboxing Academy for the Mixed Martial Arts program, which is probably the best in the world in the entire world. And he was a gorilla Jiu Jitsu black belt. Is there anything else we could do? Any outweighed me by 20

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  19. John Fitch is one of the best fighters at Welterweight in history. So he was ranked number two for five years when I was training him on GSP in UFC. He's now the current world.

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  20. Which is worse because then you can be held down, which I was, and essentially shocked over and over again by John Fitch, who's my stupid partner.

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  21. We mean business. So we're clawing, fighting, cursing to try to get this stupid, and I still have it. The shock knife and stab each other with it.

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  22. My hands are on this wall, and the instructor is like face forward, and there's like six guys, and we're all side by side, hands on the wall, like, I don't know, a police line or whatever. I don't know. And then he would throw this shock knife. And essentially what a shock knife is, you can grab it. It's got a blade part, a handle part, and it's got this really cool button on it. When you press the button and it's cranked all the way up, by the way, because there's a level you can throttle this thing up. You press the button and you see the sparks on the blade. You hear it, which is probably worse than seeing it, and then feeling it, which is even worse than that. And essentially, it's not going to scar you physically so much as it is like mentally. I've had best friends that I hated because we're doing this drill. So they would throw the shock knife.

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  23. A simulated role played knife situation. And we would have our hands, and I would teach this in MacPh called MacP, Modern Army Combatives Program. I'm level four certified, which is the highest. But anyway, through that training, I put my hands on the wall.

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  24. Okay, so shock knife training. We're kind of jumping all over the place. Shock knife training is essentially adding the motivation of pain to a supposed real-life situation. So like a scenario.

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  25. Like, if I put my hand in fire, you're probably not going to put your hand back in fire. But I'm glad I kept putting my hand back in this fire and getting burnt and burnt and burnt. And it really elevated me to like, there's something here that I don't understand and I need to do for the rest of my life. And I've had that in many aspects of my life. And every time I come to a new corner, it's the same, you know, I do this mistake. Like we did, when I started getting into combatives, I remember the shock knife training. Have you ever done this?

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  26. I'm just not fast anymore. And we're not young anymore. But I couldn't pass his legs, and next you know, he's like doing Sankaku Jime, the triangle choke. Position off his back, and I'm like tapping out and he's not using his arms. And I'm like. Isn't failure awesome? Like, that was a point in my life where I was just like, man, it's failure over and over again. And I'm glad at that point that I had the ego to keep rebooting and driving forward and do the same stupid thing over and over again.

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  27. Hands behind his head, actually. And I was trying to pass his legs, which is his guard. And I have all of this angst and 19 years old. I was like a world level competitor and I was really, really fast and young and dumb, you know how it is. And I couldn't pass his legs. I'm still dumb.

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  28. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And then five a day, or five a week times two, sometimes twice a day. So that whole $10,000 idea. But how many of those did I get in competition? Not even a fraction, it's like less than 1%. But the idea is my mind is ready to commit and commit at the right time and not at the wrong times, find those green lights. But the second you hit the ground, if you're going to take advantage of another opportunity, you need to educate yourself. And back then, I just don't think Judo had a structure that jiu-jitsu possesses on the ground. And so part of it was my ego saying, you know, you know, jiu-jitsu guys are not doing anything I'm I don't know. The other part was, well, maybe they are. And I have to figure this out and find out. And I remember the first time I went to Half Gracie's Jiu-Jitsu Academy in Pleasant Hill, California, and he was submitting me with his hands behind my back or his back, not my back.

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  29. On the ground, there's not a necessity to do that. Things are changing now, but Travis Stevens did an amazing job in the Olympics on the ground because he cross trains. And I think I was maybe one of the first person to start cross training. And the reason why I cross trained is it's something new. Like how many Uchikomi can you do in judo? Uchikomi is repetition of half throws. We're doing this over and over in this. And when I talk about the difference between judo and jiu-jitsu, like I've drilled, you know, a Saonagi, for example, which is a judo throw or a Ogoshi, which is a hip throw where you're controlling the hip and you're throwing your opponent on his back. I don't know 100,000, 200,000 times.

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  30. The sense of urgency that you have in Judo that does not exist on that level in Jiu-Jitsu, it exists in MMA because you're getting hit in the head. But the idea is I need to move. I'm very obligated, very motivated to move because I don't have a lot of time, especially when you go on the ground. As you talked about, you know, Judo has Tachiwaza and Newaza. Tachiwaza's a standing technique where we throw each other. Newaz is the groundwork. We're vying for position. We're looking for Osaikome, which is the incapacitation of your opponent on the ground. And when I hit the ground, I grew up in a culture of I don't have a lot of time. I really got to get something going because if you don't progress your position, the referee will just halt the match using Mante, restart the match. You've lost your opportunity on the ground. And so rules dictate behavior. So you see a lot of judoka who don't focus.

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  31. Right? It's control grips Stay busy with angle and destroy your opponent's posture. And if you're doing those things, they're constantly having to adjust to what you're doing. We have a saying like in self-defense, like you're either behind the curve or you're ahead of the curve. And in this case, when you do things like that and disrupt base and constantly grit fight and get good at that or constantly attacking because angles are an attack. Then you're chasing your opponent down the alley. He's not chasing you. He's going to eventually stumble and you got him.

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  32. And then there's guard, which is where most of the positional struggle comes from. It's hard to attack from top trying to open the guard in this case. And on bottom, you can defend attack. So on the bottom, you're trying to attack. But the idea is to see now how many guard systems are there. There's three main ones, closed guard, open guard, and half guard. So that's six positions multiplied by top and bottom. That's 12. So if I find go-to moves out of 12 positions, I have a game because I'm set for no matter what happens. Even if I get swept, well, where are you getting swept to? What position are you ending up? It's one of those six. And then you immediately kind of just jumpstart your game by understanding I have two moves from that position. That's how a beginner should take it. They should, I mean, you talk about it all the time. Simplify. Keep it really simple, but get good at being simple.

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  33. So, first, a lot of people talk about jiu-jitsu and they talk about I have this type of jiu-jitsu game and a lot. Think need to start at a fundamental framework for a game. What does a game mean? A game essentially how you play the game. And everyone may be slightly different, but you quickly identify, I would say, the most utilized positions for top and bottom. So it's like MMA on the ground. Like you have a top and you have a bottom. And in jiu-jitsu, it's very simple. You have the attacking positions for top or side control, mount and back. Bottom, those would be defending those advantageous positions.

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  34. Green lights are very quick, meaning you punch and it lands on the guy's head. A red light is if I punch, he moves and he counters and punches me. And so we're constantly finding these green lights. But if I'm trying to find these green lights in a situation where somebody's really, really good and especially like jujitsu because it's so convoluted, there's so many variables. And I don't have a strategy behind that. I don't have tactics, then I'm kind of reactionary. I'm just kind of like when you do something, maybe I'll do it. And that's a skill in and of itself is a very good skill to possess, to develop. But it can't be everything. Your initial is what's the main principles to start controlling the mid ground. Control that midground, neutralizing, control my opponent, you know, take them out of their game, provide these principles, execute these principles, and neutralize. I think that's the key word is.

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  35. And then you want to start formulating an attack. Very simple. Do those three things, understand what each piece does, and go. So like the technique is like understanding what each piece does. To me, that's just the simple part. To me, technique is one of the most simple aspects of getting good. It's your framework. It's your understanding how to develop, how to desensitize, how to develop a strategy to implement what you know and channel it for green lights and avoid red lights. So like in fights, for example, MMA.

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  36. Chess and fighting. I think the overall developing a framework is where you start. Like I need a framework to understand how to achieve a set goal. Okay. And then you just, you know, switch between different situations. What's the context? If it's MMA or Jiu-Jitsu or whatever it is. In chess, it was pretty simple. I'm like, how do I make this as simple as possible when I'm teaching kids who've never done chess in their lives? What I do is, you know, I got to get my pieces out so I understand that. And then I would talk to people is that is that a thing you want? You want to get your pieces out, right? You want to control the center. Okay, I call it the bridge, control the center.

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  37. I think the most famous would be Kane Velazquez, but anyone from that AK group in that time, Kane Velasquez, John Fitch, Josh Koshek, Mike Swick, Daniel Cormier, all of which who exceeded outside of MMA in other areas of fighting, like kickboxing, things like that, wrestling, that really added to my understanding of not just gee grappling. That's what I started with, judo and jiu-jitsu. Understanding how to increase pain thresholds by being punched in the face, understanding the motivation for movement which is being punched in the face. The context of fighting, fighting in self defense, but also mainly for MMA competition.

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  38. And when I'm traveling, I'm traveling to train military law enforcement and other affiliates and just people who are jiju enthusiasts, self-defense enthusiasts, MMA enthusiasts, and at the same time, I'm still cornering fighters and just getting them prepared for kind of battling. And that's just kind of, there's so many different contexts there. Jiu-Jitsu, Judo wrestling MMA self-defense. And I have to like quickly transition and problem solve depending on who's in front of me and what they want.

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  39. I travel a lot. I'm doing a lot of traveling. I think. What I'm trying to do is, what I've always tried to do is answer every question instead of just answer one question, and it's been good and bad in my life. And right now I'm using martial arts as a kind of a framework to problem solve in many different areas. And right now I'm working with my academy. So we have a gorilla jitsu academies in Pleasanton and San Jose. So that's kind of the base of what I'm doing right now.

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  40. I can't wear those. What you're wearing right now, I can't wear Because I have it on the inside of the ear. Like, normally it's really cool, and you can see it from afar on the outside. But when you get it on the inside, it messes up the whole thing only on one side, too.

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  41. Yeah, that pops up. I got word from Gallo because they searched for those keywords and all that and they told my mom and my mom told me and like Do you know what Tim Ferris? Yeah, he's pretty cool, dude. I know

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  42. The earliest memory is us running away from mass hysteria at an MMA show. Whatever it was like a stabbing and then swap police and me going like trying to protect your booth that you had or whatever it was.

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