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Dave Goetsch

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“More than 20. Yeah, 25 years ago, I would say that it is one of the lessons from Chuck Lori is he treats writing with a group of people. Someone described it like jazz, where you sit down and you don't know where it's going to go. There's a structure in a jazz thing. You do eight bars and I do eight bars and we go around. There's a structure to the scene and a goal to the scene. But being open to that freedom, it's kind of being comfortable with uncertainty that we were talking about. Being able to execute but being able to be open to that possibility of maybe not knowing where you're going to go and drawing the best out of people is absolutely magical and just have faith in that process.”
2019-05-16 · Masters in Business · Dave Goetsch Discusses Media and Money · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“If you're a writer, if they're a writer, I'd say there are three kinds of writing: there's writing on the page, there's writing when you're working with an actor and how you change it to fit that actor's voice, and then there's the writing you do when you edit. And you used to have to be a showrunner to do all those things, but now you can do it. So how you write is different now, and you can post and get feedback and build an audience. Make your webisode and have a discipline so that you're able to fit it into your schedule so that you can say one weekend a month, I'm going to shoot and I'm going to make one minute episodes, but I'm going to make four of them. And every Monday, just like Barry Ridholtz, I'm going to drop my episodes. And by the time you've made 50 of them, you're going to say, I've learned so much. I'm such a better writer. And number 36 is the best thing I've ever done. And it's the one thing I want to show somebody.”
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“What you can do just with your phone is more than Martin Scorsese and Ted Turner could ever do in the nineteen seventies.”
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“It really is so entertaining. And when people make fun of you when they're professional comedy writers who do it, it's like, wow, that was so good. Yeah, that way you can't be frustrated or embarrassed or whatever. You're just like, wow, that's so good. And so that is a joy to hang out with those guys. It's still work. It's still stressful. People get mad at each other. Things happen. You still have to do your job. But the way to have those funny people around you is amazing. And really the thing that's so fun for me to do is to teach and I teach every fall at USC and this webisodes class. And it's so fun to take these things that I've learned in my career in television but then apply them to this new medium and give say to these kids you have all the power to make your own TV show which I never had for years and years into my career.”
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“I fail all the time. I mean, pitching is failure, right? You're pitching ideas, you're pitching things. There's so many pilots that I've written and sold that never got made. But what I realized is that you really can't define failure for five or ten years because what comes from that as a result”
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“So John Irving had a giant impact on me growing up and Cider House Rules is still one of my favorite books of all time. And there's a, then this guy Rob Long wrote a great book called Conversations with My Agent. And so if you ever want to know what Hollywood's like, that's a good little book to follow.”
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“He wants something big. And they didn't talk about personal investment. I wish they would just say be a long-term investor, keep fees low, invest in a broad basket of stocks. You sound like me now. Yeah.”
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“Then it would get out. I took macro econ with Nordhaus and I took winner. And then I took Micro with Giannacopoulos, who might win it someday. Right.”
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“Well, I mentioned that Gordon Murray book, which had a really profound impact on me. And, you know, I think the work of Gene Fama, I wish everybody knew”
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“Well, I mentioned Rob Long, who's this guy who showed me that there was actually a path. And the other guy in that radio station was a teacher named Craig Thorne, and he has since passed away. And he just couldn't have more of an impact in terms of how to live your life, how to help people, the power. It's one of the funniest guys in all the years in Hollywood, one of the funniest guys I've ever met just how to live really how to live your life. Working with Bonnie and Terry Turner on Third Rock from the Sun, they created a family in their running staff. And I remember working that first night, that first year, it'd be a Friday night, and they'd say, oh, I'm sorry, we have to work past dinner. And I would think to myself, great, I don't want to go home. This is so fun.”
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“They know about the patent. That's really that thing. But I tried to start a chocolate company in the first season of Big Bang Theory at the same time while Quantum Candies, I remember that. So it was going to be called RX Chocolates, and the idea was it was going to be apothecary bottles, and it was going to have the amount recommended of dark chocolate every day, and you pop it in your mouth. I think that's a good idea. Fun, right? Yeah.”
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“I hit a telephone pole because it was Connecticut in the spring and too much sand from the snow. And I totaled the car because it would have cost $600 to fix it.”
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“I think the arrested development was hilarious. And I'm really excited about, I'm not trying to just, uh, Like promote the other chuckle world, but I think this new Bob Hart-Savishola is a really cool show, which is about a Billy Gardell, who was Mike from Mike and Molly in the pilot, has a cardiac event and goes to the hospital and wakes up, and there's a nurse, and she's a Nigerian immigrant, and he falls for her. And it's such a simple, sweet story, but you watch this pilot and you're like, I want to see more. I want to see these characters. I want to see what's going on. So I'm really excited for that.”
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“Yeah, I think what they did on curbed is great and it's fascinating how they do that it's improvised but heavily it's really interesting structured improvisation if you ever read one of those outlines where it's really dense the I have students who think oh well since curb is improvised I'm gonna go do an improvised thing and if you ever shoot an improvised thing it's just a nightmare because they all spin off on all these crazy dextrins you have to be really focused on nailing those story beats”
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“He has earned this. Place where he does not get notes. And that is an extraordinary luxury for us as writers to work in that world.”
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“They're amazing. There are special seasons, right? It's like, what is it, the office seasons two and three? Right. And a lot of it just has to do with kind of where those characters are and what's happening. I have been able to watch and see how hard it is to make television that I have a lot of forgiveness for when people say like, oh, that show stinks. Don't you understand? It's so much work to stink just to get to that level. It's so hard that they got that on TV. Do you know how many they got notes from the studio and the network on every outline and every rewrite? And then they still had to get there.”
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“Or feel jealous and have low self esteem that that's such a good joke that I wish I'd come up with it. So, I mean, I thought 30 Rock was flawless and I was obsessed with it. What they did in their...”
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“It is old fashioned, but the success of the Big Bang is testament that people like it, and even bringing back Fullhouse on Netflix, that has been a big hit for them. Really?”
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“And apply them on new shows. I think this multi-cam world where you get the chance to rehearse for a couple days and tweak the jokes and then do it in front of a live audience is”
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“Yeah, no, for sure. And I didn't create the show. So if I created the show, I'd be on a floating on a hovercraft or something. But I want to take the lessons of the last 12 years.”
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“I agree. I love podcasts. I love driving. I drove to Sacramento and listened to your podcast. And it's much more engaging than music.”
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“You 20 years from now, you're in a driverless car that's super luxurious. You get to live far out of town because it doesn't matter. You commute in for an hour or back. You plan, I'm going to watch Game of Thrones Part 9 on that ride in and on the ride out. How you can consume this content is going to drive a lot of what it's going to be and how long it's going to be and where it's going to go.”
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“The other thing that I wonder about is how you see it in every family where it used to be one TV screen. Now everyone's got a tablet and everyone complains about that. But from a content creator standpoint, it means, hold on a second, we just went from needing four shows at the same time, one show at the same time to four shows at the same time. And as you get to driverless cars, what are people going to do? They're going to watch TV. So when you think about...”
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“Favorites and yet still hear new stuff that's similar. And that's the most interesting thing about Spotify is that it will have these recommended lists with is a great way to find new music. So for me, the Netflix algorithm suggesting what shows you want is fascinating, but also are we just going to do the economic parallel? Are we going to have too much faith in models? And so what is the role of humans being able to kind of create and innovate? And then the...”
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“All on demand. And for me, that makes me want to actually, maybe it's just I'm being older. I don't want to listen to more music when I have access to more music. It's kind of overwhelming. Like I want to go to my record collection and I was like, oh, I'll play that. That's the beauty.”
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“Well, the simple answer is nobody knows, but the stuff that's interesting to me is that there were going to be more and more like Spotify where everything is available.”
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“Where to go, where to go. It's. You know, I think the stuff to me that's so interesting is how people are able to build businesses outside of that model. Watch how sitcoms Isaay with insecure or the guys that made high maintenance, they started his web series, they did proof of concept, there was a moment where these shows can live on their own or come into the corporate structure. And so how for people breaking one of the things I say is that the students at USC that I teach is that part of breaking into Hollywood might not be breaking into Hollywood. If you can be entrepreneurial and think about new platforms and TikTok is this huge thing that's happening right now that if you're under 25 you'd love it and so how can you become a”
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“Yeah, exactly. And they just took a big write down on vice so they're, you know, like that's the thing you take. By writing writing.”
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“So it's just about being able to innovate and entertain an audience. And as you have fewer giant corporations, are they going to become more risk averse? Are they going to say, well, we know Avengers worked, so let's make more Marvel, you know, they just did that with Star Wars, right? They cut back on a Star Wars movie because the one before it didn't do as well.”
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“It's interesting. People on staff still love that show. Really? They still love it and there's something special about it.”
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“I mean, Marvel will go forever. Franking out. They have a million. No, that's true. That's true. I do think. It will have to continue to innovate, right? You have to find, you can't, there'd never been an arc like Avengers in a movie. You've never seen anything like Game of Thrones before. Big Bang, you hadn't had a show like that. And so that's kind of like why reality TV was hot where you're like, oh, wait, I've never seen a show with guys stuck on an island.”
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“It's such an interesting question I feel. We're in this wild moment where within three weeks of each other the marvel arc, Game of Thrones, Big Bang, they're all ending. And so will we look back?”
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“Right, you know, jokes about Pasadena aren't going to play in Beijing, but you can. You know what it's like, it's that core dynamic of friendship, about relationships, about trying to find love, trying to find career success, and that has been able to translate.”
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“Mexico, but it had already become a huge hit, and there was a moment for me also where I met somebody, a Chinese person, who said, I learned English watching your show.”
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“It's hilarious. And we always had every year of Comic-Con we'd have a little reel so we'd have all the nerdiest jokes and the superhero references and references to Comic-Con. And we always wanted to shoot at Comic-Con, but it's in July and it never, it was always too hard to do. And so I think the moment for me was when the actors came back from a press tour in Mexico City and they were all, they just had Israel wide open and they were just like we were the Beatles. Like it was, you know, there was security and there were hundreds of people waiting at the hotel and they didn't even know the show was, they thought they were promoting that the show was going to be in.”
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“There was a press tour that the cast took, and I think it was maybe at the end of season one, between season one and season two or between season two and season three.”
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“Yeah, so the pilot is the first episode, and then, you know, the first episode of season one is episode two. So Steve Millar and I were there from the beginning. There are so many people that deserve credit way ahead of me, and I think that it's been so cool to just watch how this has grown and evolved and nobody really, I don't think people knew that this show, a show about four nerds was going to be connect with people and be so popular with them.”
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“Right, and there is a way to speak freely but also be respectful of everyone in the room. And in fact, if you're trying to get the most out of everybody, If you're pitching jokes that Hurt people's feelings, or you don't want to do anything that silences other people in the room. So I think that's all positive for making better shows. We're going to see, I think in the next few years, just more at what we've seen already, which is just more diversity of voices, which is terrific. And it's going to make better content”
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“So, I think that around Hollywood people are get it now. It's what I've been hopeful that this time would happen. And so I think the culture is changing and it's not that hard to do. When you're in a writer's room, it's important to Have everyone be able to speak freely. And so there was even a friends lawsuit years ago where the California Supreme Court guaranteed the right of the writers to cross the line because you were the right one.”
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“So we got nominated, I think, three or four times, but it was during the run of Modern Family. So Modern Family won a lot. And then we went a couple times for the Rock from the Sun, but that was when Frasier was winning. Those guys, you know, Fraser won like eight years in a row. Modern family went six years in a row.”
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“He's not one of writing Emmy, but almost all of his characters have, and I think it's a testament to how he creates shows that are so focused on characters that an actor can have a great script to really knock it out of the park. Alice and Janney just won when Jim Parsons won forever.”
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“I've never won an Emmy, so I don't know. But it seems really fun. And it's interesting to think about Chuck Glory, who, while he hasn't won an Emmy,”
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“Glaredanes is wonderful in that show. And then they win and they go up on stage, and it's amazing. And so it's fun no matter what. But it's”
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“No, no. I hope you will keep winning and winning. The Emmys are really fun. And what's interesting is when you go on different years and see whose show it is. So one year we got to sit in the row right with homeland. And that was the year, I think it was their first season, and they won and they won big. And it's, you know, first of all, it's like you look down and you're like, hey, there's Manny Patankin. That's fun.”
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“Like? If you get nominated, you go to the Emmy Street. You just go. You just go. And our editor, Peter Chekos, started getting Emmys on cheers and nominations on cheers and on Will and Grace. And by the time he started getting them on Big Bang, it was his 20th nomination and no win.”
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“Audiences like these shows, I love multicams because they're characters that people want to invite into your house and have a relationship with them.”
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“Well, I'm such an idiot because I remember telling Bill Pradiate season one, we live in a new era of television. Syndication is over. There's no way I love this show. I hope it's successful, but there's no way you're ever going to make any money in syndication. Good to it seems like it's never too late. There's always.”
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“It just depends on what that show is. I remember watching the first season of 24 in less than 24 hours. It was back when we went to Blockbuster and was just like, get them and watch them and burn through them all. So it's more like, is it a giant movie? Is it the novel you want to just can't put down? Or is it something that you want to like incorporate into your life? So as I think as writers. How do you want this to be consumed is relevant? And the sopranos is maybe the extreme version of that, which is, or Game of Thrones, waiting two years between those shows didn't help. You forget, like, wait, what's that connection?”
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“People will burn through it. It's a different kind of an experience. And so it's fascinating as storytellers to think about how to tweak those episodes. Because I remember somebody being on the plane and watching an episode of House and saying, like, oh my God, I've never seen the show. It was amazing. And then I'm watching another one. They watch another episode of House. And they're like, that was really good. It was quite like the first episode. They watched the third episode. They were like, that was remarkably like the third episode. But the point was, because it wasn't intended to be watched. It was every week we give you something that you like, which is different, but within the confines of it being weekly, it's fine. But you're not going to watch 26 episodes of House in a row.”
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“Yeah, because after. Because those ratings, you would say, wow, the ratings are going down compared to two years ago, but within three days, they're way up. And within seven days, they're way up. And so it's not just that there's one way of consuming any of this stuff and you have to be prepared to get it out to everybody. One thing that is different, though, is this idea of watching something. Every week versus If you made twenty episodes on Netflix and just dumped it?”
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