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David Chalian

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first: 2024-03-04
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“Thank you so much. This has been so fun and so smart. Yeah, I love it. Thank you. Deep. We're deep. And congratulations on the book”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“There is such a difference in vision for America between Trump and Biden that I do believe I've never covered as consequential an election. So the future of America sounds so stupid because shouldn't every election be about that? But that actually to me”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I do a podcast here at CNN, and I recently had Ontario McCall, if the former DNC chair and the Virginia governor He said to me, I want to apologize to all your listeners because I've told them for four decades that every election is the most important election of their lifetime. But I actually mean it for this one. So I do think there is”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And that's an editorial thing. In terms of this goes back to what we were saying before, our job is we've got to take the facts that we report, the context that we bring to bear into so many different forms of storytelling. And that, to me, is the transformation. It used to be, you just printed a newspaper or you put up a broadcast piece. We're so far beyond that. And so I just think accelerating how we continue to take that journalism and do the storytelling in all these different forms. That's the mission.”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Elections officials, voting officers, these volunteers, who, by the way, many of them don't think it's worth it anymore. There's going to be an emptying out of institutional knowledge about how to administer elections at precisely the moment that elections have their most scrutiny placed on it. And that concerns me, but it requires us to put a team of journalists and producers and reporters together to make sure that we are covering that aspect. So that, to me, it's like I look for what is new that we can't sort of turn a blind eye to. So it's an editor.”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The democracy watch aspect is a beat unto itself in coverage in a way that it was not prior to 2020. We had it standing up in 2020 because Donald Trump was previewing for us in real time what he was going to do after the election. But that has to be a robust piece of coverage, like covering what...”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Probably more than ever. Yeah, but you have dedicated smart journalists who are committed their daily jobs to vetting information before we present it to our audiences.”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I mean, we have a thorough vetting process for any information that's coming into the building for source approval for how we know that information to be true. Does that mean that some news organization is not going to get tripped up? I'm sure. A big worry for you? Yeah, it is a big worry for me. And like I said, I don't think there's some silver bullet guard against it from happening other than...”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But isn't the damage already done? Didn't the Biden voice already potentially suppress some vote? So I think we're always going to be in this position, Kara, of running behind these problems instead of being able to run ahead of them. The technology impact and AI or deepfakes, I don't know how the press can get ahead of that. We're always going to be coming up behind it.”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I know a lot Well, like the New Hampshire call, the deep fake call that impersonated Biden's voice is a perfect example. That call goes out The press can't do the watchdog work of preventing that call from going out to voters. After the fact, we're able to expose it, track it down, good investigative reporting, can figure out who is responsible for it weeks later.”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It is like glue for them. It keeps them really attached to them and keeps them donating. And so they have figured out a formula that keeps those folks engaged.”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, sure. And again, they'll play lots of different notes. And I think that's key. You can't just do one thing. You got to play different notes for different audiences. Biden was just recently doing a video with someone where he was telling the story of the car crash that killed his first wife and his daughter. And you listen to that story or Biden sat with Anderson Cooper for his podcast on grief and did a whole interview on that things that show a side of the candidate that you don't normally get in your daily news intake I think is a good thing. So Dark Brandon to me is an example of that too. On the Trump side part of it is because I've never seen in my entire career a base of voters of support that are as attached to the candidate as Trump supporters are. I mean it's an unbelievable bond that he has and that material, that content that they create to keep their base animated.”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I mean, the Biden stuff that leans into his strength on empathy is the kind of thing that gets virality in the internet. Right. Like it's like...”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Right, exactly. But now they are in many ways. And listen, White House's administrations have long sought to go over the heads of the media, right, and figure out how to get a message directly to voters. There's more opportunity for them to do that now more than ever. And so who sort of wins that battle of creating and shaping content? And I think you would be amazed how many people are hired on these campaigns or in consulting firms that are attached to these campaigns to develop this content. It's like digital farms and paper.”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“These campaigns have really become content creators and they have to be because that I am fascinated by that. It used to be the”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Oh no, I don't think it's just noise. I do think it matters. And I'm obsessed. I was just thinking of a pitch for us to do. And I've been thinking about this the last couple weeks because we were talking how the Biden team has sort of been gearing up in this space a little bit. These campaigns are content creators now.”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You can cover what we make judgments all the time. Forget politics in all stories. Like, what are the important facts to bring to bear to any given story? And I think we have to apply the same scrutiny to Biden and Trump. I don't think we can let a pitch go by that needs to be called out factually or properly contextualized.”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, it is. Very important for us to cover what both Biden and Trump are saying, most specifically, Karrot, to your NATO point. About what they're promising to do. I mean, I think that's, we have to stay focused on what. Is he campaigning on and selling to the American people as a choice? And what is he promising to do if he is president again? And I think we have to look at the ramifications of that, what that means for people. Yeah, I think that should be a huge focus. And I don't think we have, just like we did not in his time as president, need to cover every single tweet of his, you.”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, well, I mean, this is the eight years now, right? How you get accustomed to somebody who is so outside the realm of any norm in political rhetoric and discourse? And not everything can be a five-alarm fire all the time. And so do people get accustomed? How could you do it?”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, so I do think there is some sense that the public has not fully focused on, I think they know Trump is back. I don't know that they've realized it's on right now. Like it's actually starting. I think this is going to change real fast. I'm a little dubious. When the Biden campaign tells me that I'm like, I mean, who thinks Donald Trump has left the stage? I mean, we still cover him a lot. We were covering his trial. He's a present figure. And their argument is, well, with important swaths of voters.”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Behind or even it's a coin toss of a race is that they don't think most Americans have tuned in yet and realized that Donald Trump is actually going to be the nominee and is back. And they point to all this survey research that they have that suggests, especially for their targeted universe of voters that they need, like drop-off voters who aren't as engaged and what have you.”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I do, and I'm kind of baffled by some of it, I have to admit, because the Biden campaign will tell you that part of the reason they believe that”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And I don't mean like a hair on fire. I mean, you just have to explain to your readers and viewers and listeners. Joe Biden is the legitimately elected president. This is a lie that Donald Trump is selling the party, and largely they are buying into it.”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Do not believe Joe Biden was legitimately elected. I say that is incorrect. He was legitimately elected. They believe something that is not true. But that is what they believe. That's the context I have to provide the viewers. You can't ignore it. You can't say, oh, they believe in a lie. And so we should not pay attention to that. It's hugely consequential that they believe in this lie that Donald Trump has told them because it's part of how Donald Trump has maintained this grip on the party.”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Essentially And there is no jello. Thank you. You should hire me as a political analyst. Excellent. Thank you. I think you have been hired I mean, I'll give you just the example that pops into my mind, which is that part of my job. On air, I do the exit poll results on election night. And we ask this question that you're citing the pupil on about whether or not you believe Joe Biden legitimately won the 2020 election. And overwhelmingly Republicans in these primaries do not. And so I am reporting on air saying 60-something percent of Republicans, 70-something percent of Republicans.”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think for Biden it's his age, but obviously, as we were talking about, immigration is going to be a big topic. It is his weakest issue. Now, they believe the Democrats have this opening because the border security compromise bill that came out of the Senate, Trump tanked in the House and Speaker Johnson agreed to shelve it, and they finally feel that they have something that they can say on immigration, that they are responsible for the failure of a border security.”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, on some of the policies, some of his policy, you know, immigration is a strength for him, but you could imagine if he is twisted on abortion rights or feels in a debate moment, does he feel the need to make sure the conservative Christian base is with him and not be in the more middle of the road where he would like to be politically where he would like to? Yeah, exactly. He's made that crystal clear. Those kinds of things emerge in a debate and you see.”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But he has this exactly, right? Trump will be vulnerable legally, like there will be that kind of thing just on what he says if these trials are ongoing at the time of the debate. But he's also vulnerable because some of his policy positions are not very popular, right? And so that is an exposure for him.”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Obviously, I guess Joe Biden's performance, like his age, and if he looks up to it, does he feed into that concern? Does he look vibrant?”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Uncomfortable, right? First of all, Americans are not very into this choice that they have, right? Like, this is not an election that many people are very excited about. And it's also a rematch. So it's like a rerun of a show we've seen, right? That being said, I think there's real vulnerability for both of them on the debate stage. I don't think this will be like every other”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Without a doubt. And I don't think that changes if Trump departs the stage. I mean, obviously, if he loses, there will be some impact on that, but it'll still be Donald Trump's party. Even if he loses again. Yes, I mean, look at just what we went through for the last three years. He lost in 2020. I don't rule out the fact that he's going to try to still maintain that grip on the party even after if he were to lose in November.”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Right, he's not going to be out there campaigning for him. First of all, he's 82. He's not out there doing much of anything. But it is a symbol, though. It is a symbol that Donald Trump is back in charge of this party, as is the departure of Kevin McCarthy ousted by the trumpified part of the party, Trump's ouster of Ronald Romney McDaniel, now McConnell is stepping down from leadership. You see these Republican figures that have just either been pushed out of the stage or ceding the stage or leaving to dealing with the political reality that it is not that Republican Party.”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yes, it's December of 2020, before January 6th. No love loss there, obviously. And all the name-calling Trump has done about McCamel's wife, who served in his cabinet. Mitch McConnell's the longest serving leader of either party in the United States Senate. So this is a real moment of change. It's not unexpected. Yes, he's going to endorse him. Mitch McConnell has said for the better part of a year, he's going to support the Republican nominee. I have no doubt that he will endorse Donald Trump. I don't think that matters much.”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Right. And so I don't think they are buying the argument that he's stronger because of it. I think, obviously, the vast majority of Republicans seen it in all the exit polls, see it in a regular polling. They believe Donald Trump is being Prosecuted, persecuted for political reasons. There's no doubt that he has successfully sold that to the vast majority of Republicans. Vast majority of Republicans is just not enough on its own. And so I do think If indeed, if he is found guilty in the January 6th trial I do think that that is going to be the moment that we know whether or not the independence will ever come back.”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No, no, I think that the predicaments will matter politically. I think it complicates what I was saying. Need for some of those independents, some of those middle of the road or even Republicans, but not Trump Republicans. He has to fortify all of that, and I think the trials complicate that group specifically.”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, political. Those are small dollars. You're talking about, I mean, I don't know if your mother donates or whatever. Yes, she does. Okay. You're talking about people who will give $10 or $25 of their hard-earned money or whatever their amount that they have to spend for the week. And he's using it for his own legal fees. And they're okay with that.”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Part of the reason why he wants to overtake the RNC, and he's now moved out Rona Romney McDaniel, he's going to bring in Lara Trump. His daughter-in-law is the co-chair, I think is to make sure that the fundraising operation feeds into his needs. I know Nikki Haley is making this argument too, but I think she's on to something, making sure that the party is also aware of his legal fees. And that's part of the fundraising problem, right? Think about how much money he has had to”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You just like rattled off because we're like, oh, he's got criminal indictments and I mean, this election is bananas to think about. A former president that the American people voted out of office who now has four indictments, criminal indictments, 91 charges against him, and sitting for trial.”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The electorate, the base part of the electorate. So I think that's his electoral strategy. But think about also just what we're saying, Carrie here.”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, I think his strategy is to Expanding the electorate, bringing new MAGA fans into the electorate that hadn't been part of it before. So less about winning over the middle the way we think politicians do in a general election and more about expanding that base of support. That's what the legal viewers like he's done the legal thing, meaning utilizing the trials to fortify his support with his base. And so if you expand the universe and make that base larger, that is one approach to it that I think they're pursuing. Now, I don't think it's just that because I think politics is a game of addition. It's never just one thing. He is going to have to win back some of these independents that drifted away from him from the moment he became president to the 2018 midterms, the 2020 presidential, the 22 midterms. These independents left because of Donald Trump and they have not come back and he's going to have to try to find not all of them, but some slice of them to add to that notion of expanding”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Not the MAGA ones, but look at the numbers on all these. When abortion is on the ballot, it's performing much better than just what the Democrats would do if it was alone. I mean, clearly it's a crossover kind of vote.”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“A big piece of it. I don't mean he spends the most time on it, but will be one of the highlights that comes out of the speech. I mean, basically, every Democrat I talk to in the Biden campaign, in the larger democratic universe, it's pretty clear to me the strategy is twofold. Donald Trump make everything about a contrast with Trump and abortion rights. That is the dual path they see to realize.”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Oh god, I'm not wanting to give political advice as much as I do observe it and report it out. But I would be surprised if abortion rights is not a...”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“On abortion rights, no doubt. So if you're looking for, this is not going to be more traditional state of the union that is a laundry list of things that he hopes to get done. This is going to be setting the frame of how he wants to argue his case to the American people over the next eight months.”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“On Ukraine, on America's positioning in the world, because it's a stark contrast that they're going to sell. Right, just totally different policies.”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, I do think you're going to hear a lot of contrast in that State of the Union. This is his biggest opportunity to get before voters, before his convention speech in August. And this is going to be a political campaign style State of the Union. What points? Well, I just think he is going to make the contrast.”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Wait, that wasn't in there. Part of the test here. And Biden, you see, you mentioned how he handled it on Seth Myers. They've tried a whole bunch of things, some humor, some pushing back on it with a little more velocity to his remarks. They're still walking through how to Neutralize or mitigate what they know to be is one of the biggest questions voters have. And it's not just about age. It's not the number. It's can he serve another four years? Does he have the vitality and fortitude to do this intense job? Joe Biden has said time and time again, watch me. Watch me. That's his answer. Voters will. That will be part of their calculus.”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I'm just saying this is of concern And I mean, as you and I are talking right now, the president is at his annual physical, and we will await to see how the White House sort of puts that.”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Right, yes. There is no doubt you're citing some of the polls, but across the board, Kara, the public perception is different for Trump than it is for Biden when it comes to age. That's just what we see. We ask in our polling an open-ended question to just Democrats. What's your biggest concern about Joe Biden? And then we ask of Republicans, what's your biggest concern about Donald Trump? Unprompted. We don't offer options. It's just an open-ended. 46% of Democrats say his age. So this isn't just some media narrative that the President could have could have could”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“College. That's really pretty much my deal with him. But I do think it's going to be perhaps the most consequential state in this path to 270. And so seeing that last night, there's no mistaking it. I mean, Mitch Landrew, the co-chair of the Biden campaign, was on with us last night during our coverage. The former mayor of New Orleans. And he said, this is a serious problem. I mean, there was no trying to sugarcoat it. Now, it's a serious problem the Biden people believe they are working on. Exactly. And as I believe, we have no idea where the Israel Hamas thing is going to be come September. Is Netanyahu still going to be in charge? We don't know what that's going to look like. So it could change. It could change.”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT