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David Chalian

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first: 2024-03-04
most recent: 2024-03-04
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“Oh, is he O? Okay. And is he registered to vote there? Yes, he is. Oh, wow. And did he vote in the primary? No, he was in partisan partisan.”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So just like I was talking about Trump's vulnerabilities that we saw with Haley's percentages, I think the same story is here, which is that I agree with you. I think it was obviously a very significant protest vote. I mean, over 100,000 people participating in the Democratic primary to vote uncommitted to send a message to Joe Biden that they want him to change his policy as it relates to the administration's support of Israel. That is significant. I have little doubt that a large chunk of the Democrats that showed up and voted uncommitted will support Biden and a Biden-Trump election, but it's all about the margins. How many won't? How many will vote, maybe if not for Trump, or just not vote at all? It could impact the math. You're talking about a state that has 15 electoral votes. I think it is probably going to be the state that decides the election.”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I can't account for some incapacitating health thing, obviously, but absent that, Joe Biden's not choosing, he's not stepping down.”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Go ahead. Okay. All right. That is not likely to happen. I thought what Ezra Klein's... Essay and podcast sort of got at though was this continued hand wringing in Democratic circles that Joe Biden is not putting their best foot forward and that there is still this conversation taking place among Democrats fretting about Biden being at the top of the ticket. I think he captured that and was offering an idea that it's not too late. I can't find anyone when I ask everyone in my Democratic sources, like percent chance Joe Biden is not the nominee to a person they say zero percent.”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yes, it is the dream of every political journalist I know to cover a brokered convention. That would just be amazing. It hasn't happened in my lifetime. But that's not like the rest of the rest.”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“There are examples. There's no doubt about it. And I think Kennedy may have some staying power with a sizable enough chunk to make a difference. Now, the question is, who does he help and hurt? I think all the pulling on that shows it's a split decision. It is not clear that that is a clear loser for Biden or if he takes a little bit more out of Trump's hide.”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The reality is, Kara, these third party cats tend to lose steam and support when it comes to election day. People end up then just focusing on the rough networks.”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Georgia and Arizona. That would be hugely consequential if he is. And they're trying to get him on in Michigan as well. That hasn't been verified yet. If Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who right now of all the people you listed because of name recognition is sort of getting some level of support. If he's on these ballots in Battleground States, I think that that could be a pretty big significant deal.”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So I think this could be enormously consequential. You have to start with the premise. This is likely in a Biden Trump rematch to come down to three or four battleground states and maybe tens of thousands of votes across the Hundreds of millions cast, right? I mean, so, and as we saw in 2016 with Jill Stein, you can have a third-party candidate that actually has real in here, by the way. She's in there, exactly. And she is running in the Green Party, which is on a lot of ballots. Now, right now, Robert Kennedy Jr. is just on the ballot in Utah. His super PAC says they've gotten enough signatures to get him on the ballot in...”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Exactly, and the party does not buy it. And by the way, the fact that Donald Trump is running competitively with Joe Biden undercuts that argument.”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Right. I mean, the Biden Trump race from today's vantage point looks like a real coin flip. And in poll after poll after poll, a Haley Biden matchup is an overwhelming Haley victory. This is one of her selling points on the trail, except the party's not buying it. It's this electability argument.”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yes, and she still dances a little bit, for instance. She raised her hand on the debate stage at that first debate in Milwaukee in August, and she pledged to support Donald Trump if he's the nominee, even if he's a convicted criminal. And she's been pressed on that. And even with all her anti-Trump rhetoric and the danger, she stands by that pledge. She won't do the full Chris Christie, if you will. So, yes. She still plays a little bit in that space of trying to figure out her role, but it's less and less every day. And I think the point is elusive. I don't think there's a clear point to do that”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Correct. So if she's positioning herself for 2028, she's positioning herself for a Republican Party that doesn't exist right now, one that looks more like the Republican Party of yesteryear. In fact, she was on with Dana Bash yesterday on CNN, and it was such Sort of moment of truth serum. You don't get that so often from politicians where Danna Prester on this notion of the Republican Party that she's running for and she said flatly, it's very possible I am running for Republican Party that doesn't exist. You don't hear that from a candidate all that often.”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That is correct. And right now going through all these Super Tuesday states, she's campaigning in them, but she's also raising money in each one of them. And there does seem to be enough Trump-resistant Republicans who are willing to write checks so far to keep her going. That's the why she's in it is money. There's still funding for her. We'll see if that lasts. Political argument that Mark is asking about there about her doing damage to herself with the MAGA wing of the party, she has clearly made a calculation that that ship has sailed, right? That if indeed”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So the first question is why is Nikki Haley still in the race because she has money in her coffers? That is the thing that ends presidential campaigns when the bank account runs dry, the campaign closes. And she's been raising money. Now we'll learn, we're coming to the end of February here as we record this by the time it airs will be in March. We'll see how much money she raised in this last month, but if it is a significant decline with her prospects declining, she'll run out of fuel soon.”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I feel like you guys are getting insight into our 9 a.m. editorial call where Mark asks me questions like this in front of the organization.”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And so Democrats will potentially see opportunity there. But I just want to stress it's like the seventh state on the list, right? Biden is from such a weak position at this moment looking for his re-election plan that the more traditional battlegrounds of Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, Arizona, Georgia, Nevada, they have to be top priority for him. But North Carolina, it's a big bucket of electoral votes. And so looking to see In the primary results, what Biden vulnerabilities are exposed there, what Trump vulnerabilities are exposed, and does that state come online in a more aggressive way in the general election than it did last night?”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yes, and they can't take it for granted. And talk about the whole argument that Biden and his campaign are going to make against Trump extremism, the magification of politics. There may be a Republican gubernatorial nominee in North Carolina, in Mark Robinson, that helps the Democrats make that argument. He will be very much of that ilk of Republicans. Right. And it hasn't worked.”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yes. So North Carolina is one state that I think a lot of eyes are going to be on. It is a battleground state in the sense that both Trump and Biden are going to spend an enormous amount of money in North Carolina. It obviously has not gone to Democrats since Barack Obama won it in 2008, and then he lost it to Mitt Romney in 2012. But much like we saw with Georgia and Arizona the last cycle, these formerly red states that had gotten purple and then flipped blue, North Carolina demographically is the kind of state that Democrats look at as having that potential. And obviously Obama fulfilled that potential in his first election, but where just the way”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, right now, I think what we're learning in these primaries, I'll start with the Republican side, we are learning Donald Trump's strength and dominance in the Republican Party in a substantial way. And also learning some general election vulnerabilities that are getting exposed here because I'll use the Michigan primary as an example last night, Kara. Neither candidate Trump or Haley really competed. They didn't visit. They didn't spend much money. It was not a fully engaged race the way Iowa and New Hampshire, South Carolina. So I think it was our most natural baseline of just how the party is sorting itself. She was getting close to 30% of the vote in a place where she was nothing, as she says. Well, yeah, she says it's not a small vote. It isn't nothing. It's not nothing. And so the question then becomes, so that is a clear set of Republican voters or Republican primary voters who are Trump resistant. And then the question becomes, how much do they return to their natural, are R-Republican DNA in November and just put on their jersey and vote for Trump? And what slice of them remain Trump resistant? That math equation, to me, that's going to be the ballgame of figuring out how this...”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Oh no, I don't think it's performed. We know the results, right? We know that Donald Trump's going to be the nominee. We know Joe Biden's going to be the nominee. To your point, there is stuff to learn.”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“15 states will vote on Super Tuesday, some 865 delegates on the Republican side are at stake. It's the biggest single-day prize of the whole nomination season, and it's our only chance to, as you said, sort of dress rehearse an election night that has multiple states and time zones coming in in a really robust fashion. We don't get that with the one-off single states like Iowa and New Hampshire.”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“From a production standpoint, it's the day that has the most states voting. So the idea, you can't recreate that again before November, right? So November, you have everyone in the country voting in all 50 states, and you're dealing with how you covered that across time zones.”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's usually not foreign policy, which is why, given what we saw in Michigan, we're going to ask you about this. I don't know how long lasting, but we are in a moment between Ukraine, which speaks to a larger issue than just foreign policy. It speaks to the democracy piece. It speaks to America's role in the world exactly. And of course, in the Middle East, we'll see where those are in the fall. The only election that I have covered in my time where international issues or national security issues were trumping everything else was Bush's re-elect in 2004, which was the first election after 9-11. That's one where it sort of flipped the script on its head, and it was not the economy stupid, right? It really was something else going on. For the most part, these domestic issues and”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I mean, it was always amazing to see when it was more of a sort of right-wing echo chamber kind of issue. But this now I think people are seeing, I mean, I was just talking with Governor Kathy Hokel of New York. I mean, this is a whole different level now New Yorkers are experiencing what this is. And so I just think that's why the issue has risen. And by the way, the Biden administration clearly aware of this. It is his worst rated issue consistently. Consistently.”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No doubt. Immigration has clearly popped. It's popped. You know, immigration always was animating on the right. It's broken through. Part of this is the whole Greg Abbott process of getting these migrants out to blue cities and blue states and all of a sudden new Americans that were not experiencing the migrant crisis and the border crisis are now experiencing it. And it has broken through, it is not just a Republican echo chamber issue. It is an American issue. Gallup just came out with numbers this week showing it. The top-rated issue, I think it's rating higher in importance for voters than we've seen in quite some time. And so, and just look, I mean, both Trump and Biden are going to be on the border this week.”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I mean, I think there's a group of issues that we know matter more. Than all the issues, right? I mean, I think there is sort of a collection around the economy and inflation and what you're discussing about prices and what have you. Immigration has cleared.”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I mean, but it's still a valuable tool. I think you sort of can dismiss polls at your peril as well. They are instructive. They are not predictive. And I know that's how everybody thinks of them. And so everyone's like, oh, the polls are wrong because they didn't.”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Of it, it's harder to get out, right? Or what's influencing them? Yeah, but tease that out through talking to them or developing a relationship with a group of voters who will constantly sort of report back to you. But listen, you said polling. Polling is part of this. Polling is talking to voters as well, obviously. Sort of, yeah.”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Right, so if you saw their Facebook feeds, you'd have a lot more information about how they are receiving political information.”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Working a little bit in this space for us, the cycle, he's done this whole project called All Over the Map. And he is focused on creating a group of Americans as he goes. And keeping them sort of in the fold Constantly inform us. It's like an unscientific informal large focus”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And what they are getting because that's actually how voters are Their decisions And so what we do is talk to as many voters as possible.”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I mean, all of the above is But I do think you ask the very correct question, which is paying attention to voters. Has been the sort of central focus for how. Our coverage this year at CNM for this cycle Because I have found over the time in doing this. The moment you start losing sense of what voters are thinking and talking about, you're in the wrong place. You're focused on a shiny thing over here Ginning up a lot of interest and not actually penetrating voters. And one of the things I have not yet in my career succeeded at doing that I have long argued to figure out a way to do is to actually get a look into how voters get their information. Like I wish I could have volunteer voters send me their Facebook feeds.”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Less clear lines. As we move forward in this industry. But at the time, it really was trying to bring the sensibility of a newsroom into a”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That was a totally different environment What I did at ABC or Just because it wasn't structured the way a newsroom was structured, we tried to bring in the sensibility of a newsroom in the... Tep company You had product people. And by the way, I think now these are becoming less.”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Space and how to do digital video, all of that But it was a totally different experience. That was not a newsroom. Though I was the Washington Bureau chief, it was a tech company that we were working. You know that much better”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, well, I sort of grew up professionally at ABC News, no doubt about that. And then the time I was at Yahoo, they were joining forces with ABC News and trying to A little bit more into the”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I mean, political director, and I have worked in network political units for the book of my career. My job is to oversee all of our political coverage across all the platforms. And what that means is setting the news agenda in the politics space, right? Figuring out what”
2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
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2024-03-04 · On with Kara Swisher · David Chalian Makes the Call · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT