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David Friend

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“I do remember seeing the internet and thinking everything's going to change, which was interesting. Anyway, the new book is called The Naughty 90s, The Triumph of the American Libido. It's written by David Friend, who's an editor of Creative Development at Vanity Fair.”
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“What the consequences of sexuality were. You had to talk about in your church, you had to talk about your classrooms, you had to talk about the dinner table, and this was really a big change in the 80s that led into the 90s.”
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“I think that's one thing we did learn in the 90s, that human desire is as important as reason in determining people's behavior patterns, and that sexuality is front and center in our behaviors, which we didn't accept really. I think part of that was AIDS in the 80s, where you had a talk about”
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“But there's no nourishment in sugar, and you really need to have moral and human interaction that nourishes you or we lose this empathy toward other end civilization becomes senseless. So I hope that we're going to be using our own devices, our own personal strength as interdirected people to deal with the future together.”
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“Another 90s. I think unfortunately I kept talking about the downsides of the changes in the internet to my friend David Kirkpatrick, who I know you know. And David said, Dav He said to me, You can't, they can't all be wrong. When billions of people choose to communicate electronically with one another, it changes what it means to be human. And we can't stop this anymore”
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“They realize what matters is their own selves, their own communities, their own morality because people, I think, are generally, I'm a glass half full person, are generally good, and they're recognizing that they're government, by and large, has been generally bad to them. Not the courts so much, but certainly the legislative and executive branches lately. And so I think you will see an activism. You're going to see people who are running for office who've never done that, people who are engaged in their community. So I do see this in people changing. I sense that. What's going to happen 20?”
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“People are left to look at themselves. They don't trust their government. They didn't trust their government under the reason, one of the reasons Trump won is they didn't want to have yet another establishment. We had Bush followed by Clinton, followed by Bush, followed by Obama Clinton. They wanted something different. Now that that has been breached, And that social contract is invalidated by this liar-inchief.”
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“I want to end up how does it change then? Obviously, the resonance of the 90s is still with us in lots of ways and you're still the fruits of it. What changes? And then the very last question I want you to answer, what is the 2090s going to be? First answer, the first one”
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“92, yeah. And then it became this thing that he became part of World Wrestling Federation was the 90s in each, that he used to have some of those fights at the Atlantic City casino that he ran. And he was part of it. And this is really like what really was happening was this is this sort of crazy thing where you know the fights are going on and it's fixed.”
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“The internet to sacrifice people. We feel bad about that. So we have these resurrection stories. And it becomes this sort of sense of entertainment. And the other thing I would say is that we have this. We're an audience We're watching television, the internet, the saga, the spectacle Guidabord talked about the society, the society of the spectacle, and when he's writing in the 70s. But this is what we're doing is we're living To be entertained, and I think that's one of the reasons that, unfortunately, the Donald Trump won was not just that he would. Yes, he was appealing to a disaffected group who voted for him. Forget about Comey, forget about the Russians, whatever reasons, forget about the bad campaign that Hillary ran. But he was appealing to a certain group, but he also was appealing to a nation of couch potatoes.”
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“The 90s were a period of self. Absorption that we are in now. And this is a real negative. We have this sort of sense of voyeurism, of exhibitionism. People weren't ever like that before. There's a narcissism in the culture, and I talked to Dr. Drupal. Treated the young very poorly. They were all self absorbed. There was a lot of human sacrifice. We're using the innerfect.”
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“Yes, that's true. Yeah, no, that's probably true. All right, so that's a positive. The internet, as you mentioned, I think that changed how we do economics, communication, information, even relating to one another. I would also say that”
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“He surrounds himself with important women in his life But the people who make the decisions are just all white male. It looks like a 90 cigar bar.”
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“Espoused by a president or an administration prior to that women. The problems that he had, he still did, and I talked DeeDee Myers at length about this, he did surround himself with very smart women and brought many more women into government”
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“No, no, but that I'm just saying during that, you asked about the 90s. Yeah, don't ask Loto. It was horrible. I have a whole chapter on Don Ashton. Don't tell. You had a belief in women that had not been...”
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“I would say the good things are what Clinton administration brought us were a number of breakthroughs for workplace guidelines for domestic violence issues on his watch we had civil unions for the first time recognized”
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“So talk about just let's finish up and talk about sort of not the repercussions, but what are the name from your perspective the three critical, three or four critical things from the 90s and then what you imagine, both good and bad. I think I'd like to like what are they? Start with the good things.”
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“With the phone, fall asleep with the phone, we are now living a very unreal life with our devices and are having a more distance from one another even as we are having these wonderful creations.”
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“And then there's the internet. And then they had the internet. And there was a 50% breakthrough in number of kids having their phones there. They would wake up in the morning.”
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“And the other is if people would just get off social media for a while. People need to take a break. And because this is really what's you know, we fall, there was a great piece in the Atlantic recently about kids, and we were talking about 2008, 2009, but the economic crash meant that kids had, after they graduated college, had to go live with their parents. And then so you had many people who were not dating in proper way.”
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“Yeah, I think it's an unhealthy one too. And I think if there's any silver lining in all this, I would say it would be if men just stopped. Let women take over for a while?”
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“So which one is real, the real America? I mean, because the 90s, there's so much that went on there that was so American and at the same time horrible. And today it feels like a restatement of that ways. And including the sex stuff, because now it's gotten even worse. I mean, the kind of people are worried about tech addiction and the use of tech and how people meet each other and dating. And, you know, it's just continued to morph into an even more. A worst version of the 1990s”
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“We had in the 2000s an honest president, we had a fact-based presidency. It feels right now like That was a paradise. So, which one is real?”
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“That's why it started with, I think, yes, it started way back with Thomas Jefferson and Aaron Burr were saying lies about each other and we went through Nixon and Johnson and all this.”
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“And this is the, this is, and there could be no bigger liar I mean, you look at the man that 71%, I think, Politifact had 71% at the end of the campaign, 71% of Donald Trump's statements were false. It was Mary McCarthy said of Lily and Hellman. Every word out of her mouth is a lie, including and in the.”
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“It just came apart. It really was. It just So, what does it make people want to do to make America great again? They want to go back and they have these bromides. They want to put... Band-aids on the problem when, in fact, you need whole big systemic change. And this is why we're able to have a charlatan. We believe in the Charlatan in the same way that people believed in the tent show people who come by with elixirs.”
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“Well, you did have the breakdown. You did have the crash of world economic crash in 2008, 2009. In 9-11, it made people...”
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“So, talk about the age of they finish up. So, what had been the repercussions? Because the 2000s were really about innovation and technology and the rise of Facebook and the iPhone. So many fantastic innovations. And again, we seem to be in another one of those periods of something, something bad.”
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“Well, she was having a tracheotomy thing. She was going in for, and they tried to do both things at the same time. But the whole decade seemed to be about that, and I really do we're living in. So talk about the age of life.”
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“In the bedroom. Viagra was a new, this was this new thing that allowed anyone to have sex people who were unable to. So for all the positive things, there was this sort of sense that we could fake everything, that there's a lot in the book about...”
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“The home run race between Mark Maguire and Sammy Sosa in 1998, where here are two heroes, the greatest home run race since 1961, and it turned out they were both taking steroids. Or some sort of enhancement. And you had Lance Armstrong, who began his race to the finish line, and we know what he was on. Everyone was gaming thing, and especially...”
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“And what is that about? And so I think you had this sort of moral lack of a moral center, and we weren't getting that from the government. We weren't getting that from our leaders. I... Interesting, so this sounds like a non sequitur. But I went to a wedding recently, and the mother of the bride said in some of the remarks at the end, you know, I feel so happy that both these kids who are getting married have And I think what happened in the 90s and what's happened, and I thought immediately of Donald Trump, who talked about not paying his taxes, and he did that because, and he was smart. He said to do that, that we tried to game the system throughout that period and became”
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“So, this happened throughout that era. You had films that were morally, the good fellas, it led to 1999 The Sopranos with the”
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“Pulp fiction. Right. I talked to Woody Allen about this. I interviewed Woody for the book, and we didn't talk, he refused to talk about his own problems in the 90s with his own marital life. But he talked a lot about it in the 90s two-time magazine. But to Music and 60 Minutes, but he wouldn't go there. But what he did say, I said, you know, I think everything changed in 1989 with crimes and misdemeanors, where a man arranges a killing. So Martin Lando arranges to kill the character of Angelica Houston and gets away with it scot-free. And his”
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“But neither side was attractive. You had this sort of sense that we were morally adrift. And I think this happened in the movies in the 90s.”
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“And you had on the other side a strict stringent idea of what morality was. I epitomized by the 1992 Republican Convention, to which Pat Buchanan said we are fighting a cultural war.”
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“It did. It started really in that period with moral majority in the late 70s. You had Reagan riding that wave into office. And what we really had was 12 years where people got really tired of this and there was a reaction to it. And this is why we got Bill Clinton. And we almost got Gore. I believe we should have gotten Gore. There's some craziness that was going on in Florida. What happened was, I think, a moral shift. While Bill Clinton was espoused a sort of moral relativism, everybody should not be judged the same way. Even though he was a man of faith and had a Baptist background, he was a man who was also unfaithful. And his morality was sort of amorphous.”
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“Yeah, absolutely. We're going to talk about that in the repercussions of the 90s because, you know, you just named like 10 things. I'm having a PTSD right now. I forgot a couple of them. But we're going to talk about the repercussions now because they really have it, all of them from the internet to the Clintons to reality shows to Fox News. We're here with David Friend, the editor of Creative Development at Vanity Fairy. He's author of a new book called The Naughty 90s, The Triumph of the American Libido. It's about the culture wars of the 1990s and the sexual history of the Clinton years. When we get back, we're going to talk about how those 90s impacted today.”
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“Yeah, I used the word triumph too, and I didn't ironically. Yeah, but I also mean ironically. So it's not really, yeah, it's naughty. It's much more negative in the last four months. Yeah, absolutely.”
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“So you handle a lot of that, and then the impeachment. So you go from the Gulf War in'91 to the saga that every day was a desert storm. Then you go to the OJ Simpson saga, which went on for three hundred four hundred days in a row in some of those same players were then... The on air personalities were then there in the Clinton drama and the impeachment. And then you had the hanging chads of the 2000 election with Gorvush. It just became a series of ensemble cast shows that we were all watching and it became entertainment.”
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“In ninety seven was MSNBC. They were competing with CNN. CNN had started in 1979, but it wasn't until the 90s that it really came of age. And so here, you had many hours to fill. And what filled it really for Fox News was A much more scandal than the other shows and much more. So you had this diet. In American life that was really, I mean, that was really sexually supercharged. And a lot of it was fueled by the... The Clinton scandal. I don't call it the Lewinsky scandal because it shouldn't be called the Lewinsky scandal.”
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“Well, speaking of Sean Handy, so what else did you have? Not only did you have tabloid television shows in addition to reality shows. Tabloid television was at one point in 1996 there were 16 News magazines or tabloid TV shows. They were cheaper than regular programming. So we had so many of them. Many of them were sleazy. Many of them were good journalism, but many of them were sleazy. And then you had this new thing in 96. Fox News”
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“Don't just hold up. We have every one of those shows. You have to go watch it. You know, Sybil the Soothsayer I mean, honestly, every single show she created, the Faye Dunaway character created, exists. Seems tame at this point. Yeah, seems to tame. It's like Sean Hannity or whatever, whoever pick your idiotics. Well, speaking of Sean Hannan”
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“And it began sort of as a good experiment. People were living in this. Apartment in the New York, and how are they interacting by the end of the decade by 1999? It was really a lot about sex. Like the movie network came on.”
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“And then in the evenings, you were watching exactly 1992 was the first reality television show. Who was that? MTV's Real World.”
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“Culture was saturated in this yes it was politicians ensnared in scandal, but also think about what was going on in your daytime. You'd woke up in daytime television were these trash talk shows, Jerry Springer and Jenny Jones. These were shows that began in the 80s, but in the 90s”
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“That summed it up. It was the opening paragraph of Philip Roth's book, The Human Stain, which talked about the summer of 1998 In which the presidents see something like it was the summer that the president's penis was on everyone's mind. And America was left to try, something like America was struggling with sexuality, as we have always been struggling to sexuality. It became a sexual overlay to the culture, so we've talked about porn, we talk about the internet, we talked about the mainstream, you know, the Israeli mainstreamization of porn, MTV was going, you know, people were young people were watching it. But the entire...”
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“And it was, I think, the phrase was something like, you know, that fucking guy or something, one of them said. Now, all these years later. We have Donald Trump talking with Billy Bush in the front page story of The New York Times uses, has the president using the candidate who would become president using the word fuck and pussy on the front page of the New York Times. So this is how it's changed. Yes, there was a phrase.”
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“But this was one that became so public. You had on the front page of the New York Times. Because of tape recordings between Monica Lewinsky and Linda Tripp made public private conversations that were illegally taped in the state of Maryland or wherever it was, just put out there on the internet. You had for the first time on the front page of the Times the word fuck.”
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“I mean, it's always been skulking in the background of all these politics. You remember the guy who was frolicking, and that's a congressman. There was always a sex scandal in Washington. There was always, but”
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