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David Gorodyansky

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first: 2018-10-15
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“Right, absolutely. This has been really interesting with David Gorgianski. He's the CEO of Anchor Free and he's doing God's work as far as I'm concerned. If you really are worried about all the information these companies have on and you should be, please use his products and all the other security projects that we have to protect ourselves with. Thank you so much for coming on the show. Thank you”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But that shouldn't be mistaken by the fact that your IP address, which is a number that your ISP gives you, will still be collected by all those websites.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Stores it on the phone. Yeah, it's local, so it shouldn't be that much of a concern, but you can opt out of it if you're a concern. Certainly you can use incognito in your browser.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So that's two. There's all kinds of things that you can opt out of like face recognition on Facebook. Which I really recommend people do A lot of people don't really”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Definitely use hotspot shield for someone else. You use a security product to protect yourself with public Wi-Fi and protect your internet even at home and at work.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But we can. The great thing is, we can. Like you look in the App Store and we're right there in the top 50. People are waking up and they're figuring it out.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And not in the next five years. I would think. But the other thing is like security and privacy go hand in hand. You really can't have one without the other. And so if you want to build really secure systems, but yet you still want to collect user data, that's a challenge And so really for the next billion people, I think the future is going to be, yes, you have all these hundreds of connected devices. Your life is always connected. But for that 30% of time where you want to be private, you're just going to have the security and privacy suite that you're going to subscribe to. Just like you subscribe to Netflix, you're just going to have it And everyone's going to have it. The next billion people, like every American's going to have it, and it's just going to protect you when you need that protection.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The second is startups like Anchor Free come around and disrupt the space. Which we're hoping to do. The third that some of these big corporations will self-regulate in a real way, probably not. Simply because it seriously hurts their bottom line. That governments will sort of follow Europe, maybe, but probably very slowly.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“They haven't innovated for a while because they're mostly owned by private equity firms, and all they're doing is milking the cash, right? But once in their wake up, they're like, this is a big business opportunity. Let's go innovate.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“As long as those companies have real technology And real architecture around those technologies to really protect the user Then yes. If those companies are sort of operations on a garage that are making a lot of noise and then are actually not truly protecting user information, then they're actually worse because they're actually fooling people into believing that they're protecting them when they're not. And so I think there may be a couple of things that could happen. One, the big security companies wake up and start innovating”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Right. So where do you think it's going now? As you were saying, last two years, we've gotten all this data downloaded about us. There's more and more devices that are just people are embracing. And there'll be more glasses, clothing, embedded technology in people. We'll have some sort of phone in our ear at some point that's like we have. We just have. So the solution right now are these smaller companies that are making hay out of the abuses of the bigger companies.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I don't think there's anybody in the world today, the trust Facebook. I think they use them. It's a great product. Your friends are there. You want to hang out with your friends. But I don't think anyone trusts them. That's the thing. And if they wanted to earn that trust, and the same thing actually for governments, I don't think there's a lot of people that trust the government here. But I don't know that that's true for Europe. I actually think that a lot of Europeans, a lot of Germans would tell you they actually trust their government with their data because of these things like GDPR. And I think if I was a government of some country and I wanted to earn that trust In a postnote on world and stuff, I would go support things like GDPR because actually that earns trust.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It may not be a bad idea for these companies to say, look, let's let people tell us when that 30% is and we won't track it for real.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, you saw what happened to the Facebook stock around having to implement GDPR in Europe. Their European revenue suffered, like for real. So it's very hard for them to self-regulate in a material way. Not in a PR type of way, but in a real way. Yes, it's a really good. Because they seriously lose revenue if they can't sell private data. Now, I would argue that if they're thinking long term, If people are only concerned about protecting their data 30% of the time,”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's like one button Security. I think we'll just move a lot faster. We'll just move To support these things self regulation of some of these companies that make all their money, like the Facebooks and Googles of the world. They keep saying they will have the control.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Right, and opt out when they didn't, and it'd be really simple. I mean, if it's a 12-page privacy policy that doesn't work, but if it's like one button, you know, I want to be private or I don't want to be private, you know, something like that. Again, I just think there's this massive opportunity in the private sector to provide solutions for privacy and security. I think we'll just move a lot faster. We'll just move a lot. Yeah. We'll continue to support these things.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I mean, ideally, you'd have something where consumers would have to opt in. They wanted their data to be collected for some reason.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Not China, we know that. Exactly. Yeah. Not Russia, not China. But none of them will, I don't think. I don't think so. Yeah. You might see some bills in certain countries where Facebook is having bad impacts than passing bills to restrict the use of things like that, but nothing else, really.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. They'll pass out like the recent one is the idea that they should. Internet companies, which is an insane one. That's a lorry ingram inanity that I think we'll probably pass. But is there anything that you think has any chance, any privacy bill?”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“To preserve net neutrality if they want to. And in the same way, we're just going to provide common sense tech solutions to some of these most pressing global challenges. And hopefully people in business will adopt them. I mean, so far it's certainly working.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We're looking at the world and we're saying, look, we have more faith in ourselves, providing technology solutions like we did with net neutrality. Because we got tired of talking about it with politicians and we just launched technology that actually enables any app developer for free.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah. You know, I personally support a lot of this stuff. But at the same time, sort of with a grain of salt, and that being I actually think a lot of it is more philosophical than practical. And philosophically, you're like California, internet privacy, great, right? And then practically you're like, I don't know if this thing, this stuff is it going to work? Is it going to pass? And so I still think at least sort of from where we're sitting, we're looking at a lot of global issues. And, you know, our businesses build on sort of this intersection of human rights, foreign policies, and technology.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think there's going to be a lot of. Yeah, I think there's going to be a lot of bills. I don't actually know if anything's going to pass her.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yes, exactly. So that's one. But then there is here in California a privacy bill that not everybody's happy with, but it is certainly the most stringent in the nation in terms of protecting privacy. It doesn't look like there's going to be any movement in the US government in terms of federal correct. Am I wrong about that?”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Okay, probably they're right on that one, I have to say. It's a good argument to make. So don't put regulations in and therefore we will eventually get overcome by other startups. I think they're general. It's a fascinating argument.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Bain, right? So Europe's been the most stringent in terms of putting the GD and a lot of things, not a right to not be known, which is very difficult. It does get in the way of these people's businesses pretty much. And their argument now is the more regulations, the better off for us because we can maintain them while small player. That's their new argument, just so you”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You know, people like to change their practices. It's a pain, right? But I do think it's the right thing to do. I honestly do because it's the first step sort of. So Europe's been the most stringent in terms of”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“At a high level, I think that the technology industry needs to provide these technology solutions to privacy. Because I don't know if sort of governments will get there, although Europe certainly has taken the first step, GDPR, you know, everybody argues it's a huge annoyance.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We're going to provide a technological solution to this, and we launched a software development kit that essentially any app developer can integrate and preserve net neutrality. It disrupts the ability for internet service providers to discriminate against their traffic because we anonymize the way the traffic looks. You don't know if it's Netflix, Twitter, or YouTube. It all looks like anchor-free, and so you can't discriminate.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I mean, there's just all this kind of stuff. I'll tell you, I had dinner in DC was the only FCC commissioner who voted against the repeal of net neutrality in the current FCC. And also Reed Kunt, who was the chairman of the FCC under Bill Clinton, was on my board of advisors for quite some time. I've been discussing these issues. And I kind of were very strong supporters from net neutrality, but kind of came at it and said, you know what, let the policymakers do whatever they do.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The first thing, I mean, this was maybe eight years ago. You probably remember there's this thing called do not track in Congress. It hung out there forever and nothing really happened.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“To provide people this basic human right of privacy where every user has the ability to click a button and protect their information. But at a high level, I've been watching legislature.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Off of you. Exactly It's coming from everywhere, and there's very few that are saying, hey, how do we protect all of this data? And how do we really put the consumer or the business in control of their own information? For me, having started Anchor Free when I was 23 years old and being very naive and idealistic, both a business issue, a technology issue, and a moral issue. I actually morally think that it's the right thing to do.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The other is a group of people that want to use it to affect elections, to create discord, and all kinds of things. That's the Russians or the Iranians or whoever, even the United States in some countries. And then there's governments who want to know everything about you in order to control you if there are more fascist governments that want that information. And then there's the Facebooks and Googles of the world that just want to make a buck off of you. Exactly. So it's coming from everywhere.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Right. There's one group that just wants to steal our information so they can raid our bank accounts or rate our credit cards. That's one. That's the hackers. And those have been around since bank robbers have been around for the beginning of time. That's essentially what they are. But they're just using more sophisticated means to do so or to take people's profiles or whatever nefarious uses.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Don't want privacy. And there's a lot of whether it's governments around the world or corporations or hackers that have great incentives for our data to not be protected. Right.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Consumers deserve the right and businesses deserve the right to have very simple common sense protection for their information. But at the same time, there's A lot of forces out there that don't want.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And whether it's coming from where I keep wishing two years, yeah. Or mobile phones or whatnot. And there's a need to protect the data.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Discernible regulation of the internet in any way in order to allow it to grow, which I think most people feel it's been a pretty good trade-off, but now people are, those chickens are coming home to roost, I think, in a lot of ways. So talk to me about the bigger picture and where we are.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We're here with David Gordjanski. He's the CEO of Anchor Free. David, we talked a little bit about what risks you have, but let's talk about the bigger picture of privacy. This has been something that's been largely because of the recent things around the elections, which wasn't really hacking, and it wasn't really privacy, which is just the misuse of these social platforms, which have an enormous amount of data. And I think the focus has been on the enormous amount of data they have about people. It's time it was sold to a group that then used it for election things. I think that we'll have no way of knowing if it had an impact. But we have the vague sense that, yes, it absolutely did. There was false advertising on Facebook and Twitter and some on Google and YouTube. There was fake news. Which is a whole other problem. There was the lack of transparency in ads, especially political ads. Let's talk about the bigger picture. And of course, this country pretty much has done no...”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Thinking about it, sort of like leaving their door open. And you know what? It's super simple to protect yourself. That's the thing. That's what like, no, I think what most people don't understand is that it's super, super simple to use very easy security and privacy solutions to protect your data.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Which is a pretty crazy stat because if you think about the next five years And we've got 25 billion new devices connected. We have 5 billion new internet users coming online. Our information is going to be exponentially like larger, right? And it's going to be a convenience for a lot of us. It's going to be convenient that we can get information, how what we sleep or what we eat and get your refrigerated to order milk when you're running out. That's all convenience, but it's also a major, major concern. And a gold mine for hackers.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Exactly. So that's the thing where your home is becoming smart and all this information is being reported through the internet to various places, your doctor, the store, whatever. And protecting all of that information is extremely important. Like a crazy stad that I read is that 90% of all the data collected about us and known about us to date? Has been collected over the last two years”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, I have a little thing called sleep tracker on my mattress and reports back how well I sleep, right? Our refrigerators are going to be smart.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, the other major challenge is that we're moving to a world where we're going to have more than 25 billion connected devices. Through IoT. And my mattress today is actually a smart mattress.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Why ISBs, by governments, by hackers. There are major concerns about Wi Fi usage, which everybody uses Wi Fi. There are major concerns about phishing And there are major concerns about malware. And combining all that into one solution is what we're trying to do here.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Let's start with when we're talking about the security and privacy challenges of the future versus the PC antivirus of the past. That's really what we're talking about. It's like there are major concerns about data collection.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, yeah, if you click on an email, it looks like it's from your bank and it's really a phishing side, we will block it and we'll notify you.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, you're traveling abroad hackers, obviously, trying to see what you're doing, trying to steal your data, you're banging with PayPal from abroad, you're doing other things. I mean, we see a lot of businesses, small and medium-sized businesses using us. We recently launched Hotspot for Business for their employees that are traveling a lot, connecting on public Wi-Fi to stay secure and private. And then there's phishing. So, you know, people get emails. Looks like it's from your bank. You click on it. And it actually looks like the banking site does. And they ask for your login and password and they steal it and then they can log into your bank account. So we block 36 million malware and phishing domains. That are sort of updated daily”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That they piece it together. They did that with Axiom. They were combining things or voter registration things, or they can combine it with any other outside data. And it's enough to really be able to track you rather.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT