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David Gorodyansky

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first: 2018-10-15
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“Exactly. Because you can make, Facebook could argue that if you go to Facebook and you like certain things and you post certain things and you've sort of given Facebook that information. Whether you agree with that or not. But when you go to WebMD, you never gave Facebook anything. But if they buy that information and combine it with your Facebook profile, now they know not only the things that you liked on Facebook, they actually know basically your healthcare's history. Right. And that's pretty scary. And that's a real concern.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Right Right. I'd love to talk about that because they don't, I mean, Mark Zuckerberg, interestingly at the hearing, said we don't sell your data. What they do is they combine it with lots of other things and then sell the insights. Exactly.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Tot Very easily. Very easily. The other big problem is everybody's concerned about Facebook selling user data. But actually there's a bigger concern, which is Facebook buying user data”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, here's the worst possible scenario. You know, a colleague of mine went to Stanford Hospital. And the people at Stanford tell them, look, if you're going to be researching health related things on Google or WebMD, make sure you use some kind of a protection because that information is sold to your insurance company. And your premiums could go up. That's the kind of the more scenario of your data being collected by legitimate corporations without your consent.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Everything, every website you visit, everything you do, the whole data stream. Now, some of it may be useless. They may not care about your email to your mother, but there's other stuff that may be useful. I'll give you a”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And pointless. And pointless. Exactly. Which people don't want to, if you get onto public Wi-Fi, very simply, use protection, right? Use protection when you're connecting to public Wi-Fi. Hotspot is free version or others. The other thing is you're in the privacy of your own home and your internet service provider is tracking what you're doing. Another major challenge for people that”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And even if you by accident connect through a hacker machine to the Wi Fi, it doesn't matter because it'll take them 10 years to decrypt whatever you're doing.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Even of the network safe, as a germ, it doesn't matter because everyone's connecting with the same password. And so what we do is essentially if you turn on hotspot shield, we encrypt your whole network. It just looks like a bunch of gibberish to the hacker. So even if the hacker is trying to inspect your traffic,”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Correct. They're seeing whatever you're doing, whatever you're doing. Whatever you're doing. The same thing is if you're using Wi-Fi and in-flight Wi-Fi. A lot of us people that fly for business use Wi-Fi all the time in flight. Yes, I did it last night. Yeah. Super easy for hackers to see what you're doing.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, every time you connect to a public Wi-Fi, it's super easy. Let's say you're sitting at the airport and you're connecting to the San Francisco Airport Wi-Fi. It's super easy for a hacker to pretend that he or she is the San Francisco Airport Wi-Fi. And you're actually connecting through that hacker.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So it just passes through you. That's really what's going on. So, what else should people be worried about? Let's start with just regular case scenarios. One is don't go with a VPN that's based in China. That's kind of basic. Which Keris Wisher did. Thank you very much. So get a company that is transparent about how it deals with subpoenas, how it deals with the information that doesn't collect information. That's one. Exactly. Two, what about in public places using public Wi-Fi?”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I mean, it's very simple. The best way to protect user data is to not log it or store it. Right. You don't have it, you have nothing to hand over.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Those three companies are Cisco, a vast and anchor free. Nobody else has issued a transparency report. And according to the transparency reports, both Cisco and Avast shared information with law enforcement, with governments, different governments around the world, anchor-free zoning company that hasn't shared any information. And why? And the reason is very simple. You just don't have it. We just don't have it. We've gotten over 100 subpoenas over the last few years. We just have nothing to share.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Incorrect penis. Exactly. And we'll either resist or even better. We'll just have no information to share because of the way they're architected. See, because resisting subpoenas, it's a very hard game, especially for startups. The best way to protect user data is to not collect it. Because then you don't have to resist anything. You just have nothing to hand over. This AV test report found that only three companies in the VPN space for both consumers and businesses have issued transparency reports.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“From governments, various governments around the world, a company has received, and how much information have they shared? When you're thinking about security and privacy, it's fairly important that the products you use are run by companies that are transparent and have transparency reports.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And a VTES specifically studied how transparent are these companies with their data collection practices and also who they are and their jurisdiction and all these things. They found that most of the industry actually didn't disclose even their location, their management teams, their CEO, nothing. Pretty scary. One of them happens to be in China, which is even more scary. Then they studied sort of like who has issued a transparency report and they found actually there's only three companies in the VPN space.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And so consumers and businesses have to sort of do a little bit of research and say, hey, do these people, are they transparent about how they collect and treat data? Do they share data with governments? Whatever else? There are VPN companies that are, like a lot of VPN companies don't disclose who's on their board, who's on the management team, who are their investors. Have they ever issued a transparency report? So there's just an independent report that was published today, actually. From AV test, which is a German security auditor. And they sort of analyze the security space. They have been around for a long time. They've been analyzing antivirus products and other things. So they just issued a report on VPNs. And what they found was that most VPN companies shared no transparency. This is like a trust and transparency report.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“In the VPN industry specifically, there are some well known players. There's Anchor for you, there's Symantic and McAfee and Kaspariskin, bid defenders sort of like people in the security space that you kind of know. Even Verizon just launched a VPN.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I'm not going to name them, but it's. There's a number of problems with using security products from companies that are not well known or not known at all.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So let's talk about what's at risk, what people don't realize. When I was using a VPN, like I told you a VPN, I just happened to use I was somewhere and I was using it. You was like, no use that, I'm not going to name them, but they're from China. Explain what the problems are with some of these things.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But that 30% of the time, where people want to be private, they should have the ability to click a very easy button and protect themselves.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And so, you know, a lot of people have said, hey, are you going to disrupt business models of people that are Google and Facebook and I said, no, I don't think so. Essentially, I believe that there's a reason and an opportunity to provide privacy and security for a billion people or more. And they may not need to be private and secure all the time. I think if 70% of the time, they're like, look, we're happy to share our data, that's fine.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And your family. And people said, Look, if I'm communicating with my friends and family, I want those conversations to stay private. If I'm doing some kind of financial transaction, I'm logged into my bank. I want that to be private. And if I'm researching things on WebMD or on Google around my healthcare, I want those things to be private. But other times I'm happy to be public and not be private.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You know, we just surveyed our users and we asked them, Do you care about privacy and security? And if so, like, when? And what we learned is that most people said that 70% of the time, they actually didn't care about their privacy. They were happy to share pictures on Facebook or whatever. But 30% of the time, almost everyone said they cared about their privacy enormously. And that 30% was when it came to things like your healthcare, your finances.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“From ISPs, from whoever, right? So I firmly believe that the first three companies that Essentially got to a billion people online. We're first Yahoo, then Google, then Facebook. I believe the next company that gets to a billion people online is going to be in the business of protecting your data.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Stop apps on the iPhone Makes most of the revenue from selling data to advertisers, right? We make most of our revenue from protecting your data.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's essentially the same thing, only it's targeting sort of a younger demographic, more student focused hospital, more business professional focused. I see. Okay.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“They were not. Exactly. Exactly. People essentially two years ago, people in the US just didn't care about privacy. And security, and today that's changed in a fairly massive way to a point that if you look in the app store, what are the top 50 most downloaded apps? You'll see Facebook, you'll see Twitter, you'll see a bunch of games.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Couple of things. We saw a major spike when the FCC allowed ISBs to sell user data. We saw a major spike with a repeal of net neutrality. We saw a major spike in usage with the crack vulnerability on Wi-Fi. Cambridge Analytica, all of these things where people realize that, hey, my privacy is being compromised without my consent. And my security is at risk. All these things have caused major spikes.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's very interesting, right? Typically, people start in the US, get market share. We're very different. We're a California-based company. All of our employees are here, and yet our usage for a very long time was primarily Egypt and China. Exactly, emerging markets. Over the last two years, that has changed materially. We still are big in emerging markets and still are growing, but the US is now like 50% of our usage. It's just incredibly important.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That are looking for one of these four things either security and Wi-Fi. Privacy protection even at home. You don't want Comcast or whoever to see what you're doing online Protection from fishing malware and spam, and also access to global content that may not be available in certain places, like the example of Egypt. But I'll tell you one interesting trend that's happened over the last few years. Our usage has shifted heavily from being emerging markets focused to being US focused. I mean, so you're going to...”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The growth we're seeing is mostly around mobile security and privacy. We're seeing, as I mentioned, 250,000 new users every year. So, what are they looking for?”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So if we generate revenue from a freeman business model similar to a Dropbox or Spotify, people download Hotspot Shield, they use it, they can start using it for free. And at certain points, we ask people to pay. We have users for free forever. We have users that have been using us for five, six, seven years for free. But at the same time, We have a percent of our users that are paying a subscription. It's $12.99 a month or $75 a year and that provides security and privacy for up to five devices. A lot of businesses are also buying it. A lot of people are buying it for their families. CFOs are using us. People on Wall Street are using us. A lot of people use us to protect their health data. Generally, it's a bit.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, essentially, we want to build a product suite that a billion people will use for free and 100 million people pay for. And to do that, it's a combination of products for security and privacy that are That we have to put together and build, and we're looking at MA as a pretty important focus area. Sure. We're going to be looking very carefully at interesting technologies that we could add to our suite.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's a group of investors, the lead investors Wonderco. Which is holding an investment company started by Jeffrey Katzenberg and Suji Jaswa and Anne Daly?”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And we believe that it's really not about having one product, but a comprehensive suite where the next group of consumers and businesses that are thinking about their privacy and security, they're just going to subscribe to this or even use it for free. So you raised how much.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, we raised a fairly sizable round. This is the fourth investment with Daken. We basically raised it for several reasons. One is really around what I was just saying, that there's an opportunity to build the next generation security company that will secure the privacy and security of the next billion consumers. And thousands of businesses And to do that, we're building new products sort of to add to Haspa Shield, to create sort of a security and privacy suite. We're also looking for M&A. Some new products that are going to be geared towards protecting the security and privacy of the next billion people, we're going to build, some of them we're going to buy.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And it's mobile centric, and it's around protecting the privacy of your data that's being collected by a bunch of third parties. It's also about protecting users from phishing, which is a very big multi-billion dollar problem for consumers and businesses and malware. And so we're not seeing a lot of solutions. We're seeing a lot of challenges. So we believe we have the opportunity to sort of build a next-gen security company.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“All of these security and privacy challenges are just exponentially growing. And the companies, the biggest companies in the world around security, some of the companies you mentioned, Are selling A lot of the old school security companies. Are selling sort of PC antivirus at Best Buy, right? And we're in 2018 and we've got like massive security and privacy threats happening on our mobile phones. And so we're not seeing that the sort of old school security companies are addressing these challenges. As a matter of fact, if you look at most of them, most of their revenue is still coming from the Alt PC business and their mobile revenue is like Diny. So we kind of set out on a path to build”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So talk a little bit about how the challenges have changed and how do you compete against these because there's tons of these VPN sites. You know, I've used them in China. I've used them lots of places, but not as a regular occurrence. So let me first start by saying that I think, and you know this really well security and privacy threats are exponentially growing. You're seeing things like Equifax gets getting hacked. You're seeing Cambridge Analytica. You're seeing Target. That wasn't a hack. That was the use. Yes. That was selling of user data, right? All these vulnerabilities, the crack vulnerability, which was found last year in all Wi-Fi, hotspots that people thought were secure and they weren't.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But you have other things that you do on the service, correct? We do. We started initially with Wi Fi security. Then we added internet freedom and privacy. And most recently, we added protection from phishing malware and spam. So it's sort of a more comprehensive security product, which protects consumers from most of their sort of mobile security threats today. Where most of it happens on mobile, although you do it on computer. Now, this has been sort of an area peopled by a lot of big competitors, Symantec, and others over the years. So talk about how it's morphed, because obviously it's become a mobile issue. People are much more connected always on in computers. You weren't always on necessarily. You may have had it open at home, but it wasn't used.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We looked at that and thought, well, this is super interesting. Privacy on internet freedom are some of the most pressing, like human rights. Technology issues and also like moral issues, providing freedom and privacy are right, are the right things to do. And we're very idealistic and naive. We're 23 years old. We're like, hey, we can devote our youth, our energy, and our time. Something that actually matters, that something that matters for a billion people. And privacy and security could be a really good business, but it's also important for the world, regardless of being a good business, just important for people. And so that's how we started.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“None of them were in our office. And we've never marketed in Egypt and we had no idea. We didn't know anyone in Egypt. It turned out that the Arab Spring started and Egypt blocked access to social media and the only way people could get to information was through anchor free hotspot shield.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We realized early on that the privacy and security were going to be super important for people. And so we started anchor-free in our minds what we really wanted to do is solve a real billion person problem. We wanted to essentially take control over information, over people's data, away from corporations like Google and Facebook, hackers, and governments and give it back to the people. And we felt like this would be something that really would be impactful at a huge scale. And essentially, we started anchor-free launched hotspot shield, and most of our users initially were here in Silicon Valley using us at Stanford or wherever on University Avenue to secure Wi-Fi. Until one morning, we walked into our offices and found a million Egyptians using our product. And we had no idea why. They were all in your office.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“A little bit about the background though. How did you start it? So my co-founder and I were both students when we started the company. We were 23 years old and we were working out of coffee shops a lot. And realize that Wi Fi was unsafe and unsecure. We also realized that privacy as a whole was just going to explode in the coming years because billions of people are joining the internet on smartphones. As a matter of fact, today we have two and a half billion smartphone users over the next three years. We're going to have 5 billion. People are moving from old Nokia feature phones to smartphones.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“What you want to buy, what are you looking at? What are you seeing so they can just have that data? Comcast or Or Google. Exactly. Well, and until March of 2017, it was actually illegal for ISPs to collect and sell your data. Right. Until then. Yeah. As of March 2017, it's now legal. They're collecting and selling it without any problem. Just like the Google's and the books, right? Exactly. Exactly. And so we're protecting from that happening.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The other thing we do is we protect the user's IP address, which is a unique number that your internet service provider assigns to you. When you first connect to the web at home or when you're connecting to Wi Fi. And essentially, we take that IP address, that unique number, we throw it away. And so it disrupts the ability of your internet service provider or random websites or hackers from tracking you across the web. Understanding what you're doing and understanding what you're doing. Because they're”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Anchor free is one of the companies that has been providing security and privacy for the masses over the last 10 years. We have about 650 million people that have installed their applications across mobile devices and computers. And would grow by about 250,000 new demos every day. Essentially, what we do for people is our flagship app is called Hotspot It secures everything you do online, essentially making every app you use, every website you visit as secure as your banking site or banking app. We're used on public Wi-Fi, which is a big area where consumers have their identities and data stolen a lot. So airports, coffee shops, hotels in flight Wi-Fi, we encrypt all of the traffic from a mobile device or computer or phone. And essentially secure it all.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, it's a great time to be talking about security now, even though this is going to be airing later, there is a hearing tomorrow in the Senate about security and the lack of security on social networks. Obviously, everyone is concerned about the midterm elections and everything else. And most people are thinking really hard about how our technology is being misused, essentially and hacked and all kinds of different things, not just hacked, but misused. Give us a little background on Anchor, your company Anchor Free.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Hi, I'm Kara Swisher, editor at large of Recode. You may know me as a security expert. My password ends in one, which means it's hacker-proof, but in my spare time I talk tech and you're listening to Reco Decode from the Vox Media Podcast Network. Today in the red chair is David Gordyansky, the CEO of Anchorfree, the maker of a virtual private network app called Hotspot Shield. It has 600 million users and Axios calls it the most important mobile app you've never heard of. We'll talk about all of that and more. David, welcome to Rico Decode.”
2018-10-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: AnchorFree CEO David Gorodyansky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT