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“Yeah, everybody's really. I don't know. It's really a common nightmare. And I just think we're literally living through a nightmare now. Why can't we all focus on that? Why do we have to invent one or at least exaggerate a threat?”
2019-04-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: "The Uninhabitable Earth" author David Wallace-Wells · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I see all the apocalyptic. Do you really have like a great Netflix kill? I see. Yeah. But, you know, we've been through five mass extinctions before the one that we're living in now, all but one of them were caused by global warming that was created by greenhouse gases. Only one of them was caused by an asteroid. It was the one that killed all the dinosaurs. So it's like the most traumatic. But it's actually, in terms of numbers, it's not the most dramatic. There was 250 million years ago, there was a mass extinction event caused by greenhouse gases that killed as much as 97% of all life on Earth. 97%. And basically each of these mass extinctions is like you totally wipe the slate clean. It's almost like an entirely new planet begins again. And we may get hit by an asteroid.”
2019-04-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: "The Uninhabitable Earth" author David Wallace-Wells · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think that an asteroid could hit the planet. That was a Ti Leone movie. I see all the apocalyptic movies. Do you really have like a great Netflix? I see them all the day after tomorrow. I see them all.”
2019-04-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: "The Uninhabitable Earth" author David Wallace-Wells · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah. Well, another reason that everybody's so excited to go out into outer space is because they're scared of asteroids. They think that an asteroid could hit the planet.”
2019-04-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: "The Uninhabitable Earth" author David Wallace-Wells · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I wouldn't have done it without public He has a big interest I really don't see it. And some of the stuff that Elon talks about, people do think he's crazy. That was the one part I thought, oh, wow, he's really actually, I see, I see the reason. He really does believe the Earth is doomed.”
2019-04-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: "The Uninhabitable Earth" author David Wallace-Wells · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And he is almost single handedly made a huge difference in the, at least the sort of automobile sector when it comes to climate change. Yeah, I wouldn't have done it without automobile. And Solar City, which is often less talked about because it's a little less present in the public imagination, is really just as important because a lot of the problem with the renewable energy generally is that you can't store it as well. And so battery technology is really, really important. He has a big interest. No, he's a great hero. I think he and Gates are like the two people who are really on it. Sam Altman's like called for some proposals at Y Combinator, but they're kind of of the weirder kookier. Not sure we can really count on this kind of approach. But beyond that, I really don't see it.”
2019-04-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: "The Uninhabitable Earth" author David Wallace-Wells · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Immediately, it would also create enormous immediate fortunes like whoever was running these companies, whoever owned these technologies, would become immediately like the world's richest. Earnest Corny, right? Kind of not something that anybody thought was sexy”
2019-04-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: "The Uninhabitable Earth" author David Wallace-Wells · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I think there's a lot of shit up there. But, you know, it's like if. If their business opportunities and climate change, too. So I mentioned earlier that Bill Gates has invested in this carbon capture, a series of carbon capture companies. There's one in particular called Carbon Engineering. So this basic idea is that these are machines that will suck carbon out of the atmosphere and in some way or other store it either in liquid form or in something like coal actually to bury back in the earth. And this one guy running this company that Bill Gates is back, carbon engineering, has found a way to do this at a cost of $100 a ton of carbon. That means that you could totally neutralize all of the carbon emissions produced by the entire global economy. We would not have to change anything about the way we're doing and we would be putting no additional carbon into the atmosphere for a total cost of about $3 trillion a year. It's a lot of money, but there are estimates that we're subsidizing the fossil fuel business globally $5 trillion a year. So if we just redirected those subsidies towards those technologies, not only could we theoretically solve the problem, there are some complications, but theoretically we could solve that problem.”
2019-04-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: "The Uninhabitable Earth" author David Wallace-Wells · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yes, that was another thing. Like business opportunities there. Yeah, they want to get on. Are there business opportunities on climate change? Media. There's one group that wants to get on a meteor and grab. Cobalt or whatever the hell.”
2019-04-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: "The Uninhabitable Earth" author David Wallace-Wells · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, you know, it seems like it really is a fantasy of escape rather than a kind of humanitarian gesture towards livability. And I think it probably has something to do with, you know, they think there are all these like rare earth minerals out there that they can mine and yes, that was another thing. Business opportunities there. Yeah, they want to get on.”
2019-04-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: "The Uninhabitable Earth" author David Wallace-Wells · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Speaking of hot and cold, no matter how awful Earth gets, it will be easier to build, if you're going to build an biodome on Mars that's going to make it livable, you could do that on Earth for much smaller costs, much more easily, and include many more people.”
2019-04-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: "The Uninhabitable Earth" author David Wallace-Wells · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Oh, I think they're not aware of any of the pain. And at the same time, they have a bunker plan because, first of all, it's. Weirdly romantic to them, the concept. You know what I mean? I just talk about it like, this is cool, isn't it? Yeah, kind of thing.”
2019-04-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: "The Uninhabitable Earth" author David Wallace-Wells · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The escape plans. It's interesting. They always involve a motorcycle, which I'm going to be like, I'm taking they want to see themselves in that movie. I mean, it's interesting to me because, you know, you hear a lot about inequality moment that we're in, you hear a lot of chatter from the left that's like, these people are so out of touch. They don't understand just how broken the world is. But the fact that they all have bunkers and escape plans suggests that they may know even more keenly than activists on the left just how much discontent there is out there.”
2019-04-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: "The Uninhabitable Earth" author David Wallace-Wells · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No, you know, they have other plans. They have two plans. One is to get off the planet and go to Mars, which is, I think, Elon, Jeff Bezos, all of them are interested in getting off the planet. Not all of them, but a lot of them more wealthy ones. And then the second thing is to create bunkers. That's something I joked about the Peter Teal thing, but I can't tell you how many conversations I've had with very wealthy people about their bunker plan. And except for intermittent fasting, they don't talk about anything else. And it's really, you know, one was like, I've got a motorcycle that will get me to my bunker in Big Sur. And this is, and I was literally like, what? Like you have an entire, they have entire elaborate plans, escape plans. It's interesting. They always involve a motorcycle, which I'm going to be like, I'm taking themselves in that movie.”
2019-04-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: "The Uninhabitable Earth" author David Wallace-Wells · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yet, and they're living on a world that is about to face some incredibly crippling, possibly existential threats from climate change. You'd think that like the ego would drive you to one of the other plans.”
2019-04-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: "The Uninhabitable Earth" author David Wallace-Wells · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Clean water. Well, I think it's basically like these are essentially, these people have the mindset of engineers and they are excited about problems that seem to them engineering problems. And climate change actually isn't really an engineering problem as much as it is a political problem. And that's an area of human life that is much more complicated for these tech billionaires to approach. But my feeling about it is I'm confused by this because I see a new class of plutocrat who has more capital and more social capital than basically anybody has ever had in the history of the world. They see themselves as world historical figures. They want to see themselves as gods. They're chasing eternal life and whatever like longevity.”
2019-04-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: "The Uninhabitable Earth" author David Wallace-Wells · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“He's done kind of significant investments in carbon capture, which are machines that take carbon out of the atmosphere and is behind them.”
2019-04-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: "The Uninhabitable Earth" author David Wallace-Wells · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We're here with David Wallace Wells. His book is called The Uninhabitable Earth. One of the things we were talking about is the West ignoring it because of the comfort of the wealthy. One of the things we talked about before this started was that how little tech has interest in it. It really is true. I had thought of it. They're interested in changing food. They're interested in automobiles, self-driving automobiles, they're interested in AI, automation. But climate change is just not something that any of them has pioneered. I'm trying to think of.”
2019-04-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: "The Uninhabitable Earth" author David Wallace-Wells · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah. For climate, it's really, it almost feels tragic, but I do think the likeliest outcome is that we produce much, much, much more suffering. And yet normalize it at exactly the same rate that we're creating it so that 50, 80 years from now, the world is really, really in pain. But the wealthy people, especially in the West and the US and the EU, are just sort of looking away from all that suffering.”
2019-04-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: "The Uninhabitable Earth" author David Wallace-Wells · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We like to use that word unprecedented all the time now. Yeah. They use it a lot around Trump. Unprecedented. I'm like, no, it's precedented. He said it. You know what I mean? It's interesting that we, I think humanity tends to take things in and then just like accept them.”
2019-04-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: "The Uninhabitable Earth" author David Wallace-Wells · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No, I mean, it's that we just had the first February typhoon in Pacific history. You know, we kind of normalize some of these events if we see them only so often, we forget that they used to happen only every decade when we're seeing them only every three years. But the closer they get together, the harder it is to ignore that it's a new situation. So in the book I talk a little bit about you hear this term on the news 500 year storm. That means a storm that's supposed to hit once every 500 years. So 500 years ago, white people had just like come to the Caribbean. They hadn't even set foot on mainland America. So we're talking about one storm that was supposed to hit during the entire colonial period through the American Revolution, the Empire of Slavery, the Civil War, World War I, World War II, everything that we've known since World War II, our imperial moment, our post-Cold War, like, et cetera, all the way to the present day. We're supposed to see one storm of that kind in all of that time. Hurricane Harvey was the third 500-year storm to hit Houston in three years. We are living in a totally, totally unprecedented climate situation.”
2019-04-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: "The Uninhabitable Earth" author David Wallace-Wells · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, I think that's changing a little bit. I mean, for a long time, the fact that Carbon was invisible was a real problem for climate change. So when we had pollution in the US in the 70s in particular, it really mobilized public opinion because you could see the air, you could feel it in your lungs, and people responded. Carbon hasn't had that advertising quality. But I think that the wildfires in California have been really important in that way. I think they feel really imminent and immediate to people even living in other parts of the world. I hear when I talk to people in Europe, they talk about the California wildfire so vivid and the extreme weather we're seeing like hurricane after hurricane through the Caribbean.”
2019-04-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: "The Uninhabitable Earth" author David Wallace-Wells · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Against something like the program that the new Brazilian president Jared Bolsonaro is trying to deforest the whole Amazon, which will be crippling for climate change, if that had been 20 or 30 years down the road, is it possible that a Chinese army would stop him? I think it is possible, as sort of hard to imagine as it is right now. But I think that”
2019-04-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: "The Uninhabitable Earth" author David Wallace-Wells · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“England, which literally invented the Industrial Revolution and ran that empire on fossil fuels. Similar question for the US and Saudi Arabia. If it really is impossible to go on pilgrimage to Mecca, Saudi Arabia, they bear a huge responsibility for a lot of our issues because they produced all this oil, but they did that basically as a client state of the US and at the direction of U.S. business interests. And what the relationship of U.S. wealth to Saudi suffering, that's a huge open question I think we'll sort of have to evolve a geopolitics to adjudicate in the coming decades. And that's one of the big subjects I sort of tentatively sketch out in the book is what this geopolitics will look like if we invented a global order after World War II based on human rights and peace and prosperity, even if we didn't honor those values always. That was the sort of, those were the stated values. What'll it look like in the coming decades if we have a world order that's really oriented around climate change and carbon? Will we start to see sanctions against bad behaving countries? Will we possibly even see military actions?”
2019-04-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: "The Uninhabitable Earth" author David Wallace-Wells · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Places really on the equator are already really suffering, but that suffering is going to get much more dramatic, and that opens up the question of, say, 50 years from now, if India is really boiling and Bangladesh is flooded, what is the responsibility of, say, their former colonial overlord?”
2019-04-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: "The Uninhabitable Earth" author David Wallace-Wells · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's a combination of it. It's equatorial, which means it's already hot and it's closer to these tipping points. It also has huge river systems, so there'll be huge river flooding issues. And some features of their natural landscape make it slightly more vulnerable than some other equivalent places in the world. But really all across the equatorial band of the world, things are going to get a lot harder. They're already getting difficult in ways that you and I don't really appreciate living where we live.”
2019-04-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: "The Uninhabitable Earth" author David Wallace-Wells · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Who think that the whole wave of Islamic terrorism is a product of climate change hitting those parts of the world first by 2050, you won't be able to go on pilgrimage to Mecca. It'll just be too hot. And if you look at the economic data, It shows up in exactly that way, even though these countries are poorer, and so the same natural disaster impact shows up as a smaller number, say, in Bangladesh than it would in Miami Beach. But India is scheduled to receive, I think the number is 29% of all economic suffering from climate change in the coming century. The US is scheduled to have about 15%. But India is really the country that's going to be hit hardest and most”
2019-04-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: "The Uninhabitable Earth" author David Wallace-Wells · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Right, but if you lived in Oklahoma, you'd be like, no big deal. The more we learn about, the more we learn about all of these impacts, it really is an all-encompassing threat. And that may sound like a naive revelation when I walk down the street on concrete. I look up at steel buildings. I feel like I'm living outside of nature. But of course, we all live within nature. And when nature changed, we're affected by it. So it's a universal phenomenon, but it also punishes in a discriminating way. So mostly it's the world's poor who will suffer most. That's not a coincidence. It's because those parts of the world are already hotter and are closer to brink of real tipping points. So by 2050, if we don't change course, many of the biggest cities in the Middle East and South Asia will be literally unlivably hot. So a place like Calcutta, which I think has about 12 million people living in it, in the summer, you won't be able to go outside without risking heat stroke. That's going to happen as soon as 2050. Already agricultural yields across the Middle East are suffering because of climate change, and there are a lot of people.”
2019-04-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: "The Uninhabitable Earth" author David Wallace-Wells · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I mean, I think so climate change is totally all encompassing. We were long told that it was an issue of sea level rise, and that meant that if you lived on anywhere but the coastline,”
2019-04-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: "The Uninhabitable Earth" author David Wallace-Wells · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Science says about what warming is coming and what that means, but what those warming impacts will mean for the way that you and I live, relate to one another, how we organize our politics, our culture, how it affects our storytelling, our sense of history, all that stuff.”
2019-04-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: "The Uninhabitable Earth" author David Wallace-Wells · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Is how profoundly and in what way is benefiting whom and imposing suffering on whom? And my book, my article first, but then my book was really an effort to think through those questions, not just”
2019-04-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: "The Uninhabitable Earth" author David Wallace-Wells · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Temperature increases violence, not just the level of states but at the level of individuals, so rates of murder go up, rape goes up, domestic assault goes up, it also affects, believe it or not, incidents of mental illness, so there are higher rates of admission for schizophrenia at mental hospitals when it's hotter out, and people in hospitals have more outbreaks when it's hotter out. Some thinking might have something to do with how the medication works at higher levels. You look inside the human body, we have millions, if not billions, of viruses and bacteria that live inside us. We don't know how those will behave in even a slightly altered environment, but we do know that we are now living on a planet that is warmer than has ever been in the entire history of humanity. So we are living in a literally unprecedented climate situation. And all of these things that we sort of take for granted as permanent features of our life, of modern life, of biological life, of human life, are going to be disturbed in some way going forward.”
2019-04-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: "The Uninhabitable Earth" author David Wallace-Wells · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I was walking through, I don't remember actually the exact number, but maybe six or eight particular areas where if climate change got really bad, things could get really ugly. So in addition, I didn't even write about sea level rise because I sort of thought everybody understood that. But agriculture. So if we end up at the end of the century at the path that we're on now, we get to four degrees by the end of the century. Our grain yields will be half as boundiful as they are today. We'll be trying to feed 50% more people. Conflict for every half degree of warming you get a 10 and 20% increase in conflict, which means, again, at four degrees of warming, we'll have twice as much war as we have today. Economic growth, the best economic research suggests that at the end of the century, if we don't change course, global GDP will be 20 to 30 percent smaller than it would be without climate change. So 30%, that's an impact twice as big as the Great Depression and would be permanent. Their impacts on public health, on cognitive performance, on the development of children in utero and”
2019-04-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: "The Uninhabitable Earth" author David Wallace-Wells · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Totally unexplored, and the range of outcomes north of four degrees, which is possible, if unlikely, was literally untalked about. And I thought it would be just as a kind of storytelling opportunity, an incredible story to tell. Like, well, what if it actually got as bad as it could possibly get?”
2019-04-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: "The Uninhabitable Earth" author David Wallace-Wells · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, I wrote a big piece a couple years ago that was looking at worst case scenarios for warming. That was in 2017. And that was because, you know, in addition to the speed mistake, I think most of the storytelling was making there was also this sort of optimistic fallacy happening where scientists talked about this two degree of warming threshold as the threshold of catastrophe. And that meant that most people understood it as a kind of worst case scenario. But in fact, basically it's a best case scenario. And what we're on track for is four 4.3 degrees warming this century. And that whole range of outcomes between two and four degrees, I felt was”
2019-04-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: "The Uninhabitable Earth" author David Wallace-Wells · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Whole pie of energy use has grown, we're in a worse situation than we were then because we're using more dirty energy too.”
2019-04-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: "The Uninhabitable Earth" author David Wallace-Wells · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“From renewables has not grown at all in 40 years. So, in terms of the ratio of global energy use, we're exactly where we were 40 years ago when hippies were using solar panels on their geodesic domes. I mean, we've made no progress at all. And in fact, since the”
2019-04-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: "The Uninhabitable Earth" author David Wallace-Wells · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And we just haven't responded. I mean, we've now known about this issue really, I think, undeniably at the highest levels of government, at the highest levels of policymaking for at least 30 years Those 30 years are record emissions years. Every year is higher than the last globally. And so for all the faith we might have in, well, now we really can take the problem seriously. It's the recent history suggests that knowledge is not nearly enough to make people actually act on this. And I mean, if you look, you know, the energy revolution we've had over the last 30 years. Price of renewables has fallen so dramatically. It's a huge, huge success story. But the share of global energy use.”
2019-04-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: "The Uninhabitable Earth" author David Wallace-Wells · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And the emissions into the atmosphere. And they were from refrigerators and air conditioners, I think. I don't even remember, but I wrote a story because he was pioneering legislation around the elimination of them because they were so harmful. The atmosphere, and he was, I remember listening to him at the time, nobody, he was sort of a Cassandra kind of personality in the Senate at the time. And I wrote a story about it. Also, of course, Angels in America, which talked about that as a metaphoric issue around the AIDS crisis. They were using the idea of the broken. Atmosphere, which was interesting. So that's when I first started, which was well before that in the 80s sometime in the 80s. But you're right, people didn't really have a lot of awareness, but there was some. There was certainly some.”
2019-04-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: "The Uninhabitable Earth" author David Wallace-Wells · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Late 80s, yeah. So that's since Al Gore published his first book on warming. It's since the UN established their climate change panel, which means Done more damage knowingly than we ever managed in ignorance. It's since the premiere of Seinfeld. I mean, just to give it some real context, this is happening very, very quickly. And we're now in a position where we have”
2019-04-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: "The Uninhabitable Earth" author David Wallace-Wells · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But we thought, oh, it was going to be happening at the very end of the century at the earliest, and we just had, therefore, had so much time to invent our way out of it, grow our way out of it. In fact, half of all the emissions that we've put into the atmosphere in the entire history of humanity have come in the last 30 years. So we've brought the planet from total climate stability to the brink of catastrophe. In 30 years, which is the story of my lifetime and the story of the next 30 years.”
2019-04-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: "The Uninhabitable Earth" author David Wallace-Wells · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So I think actually things have changed a little bit over the last couple of years, but Tuy and the portrait that the public has now, I think, is more accurate than was the case a couple years ago. But a couple years ago, I think there were basically like three major misconceptions. The first was about the speed of change. I was raised at least to think about climate change as something that was happening really slowly. In fact, I just talked a lot about that being a big problem for public communication because nobody wanted to act on it.”
2019-04-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: "The Uninhabitable Earth" author David Wallace-Wells · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I'm somebody who, as a journalist, I've been interested in the near future. So I've always been looking out for news from science, news from technology, and thinking a little bit about how those things are going to change the way we live in the future. And then a couple years ago, really in 2016, I just started seeing all of these really alarming new bits of research coming out about climate science. And I didn't, as a kind of competitive journalist, I didn't see those stories being told honestly in the outlets that we think of as our competitors.”
2019-04-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: "The Uninhabitable Earth" author David Wallace-Wells · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That's not a coincidence. It's because those parts of the world are already hotter and are closer to brink of real. Tipping points. So by 2050, if we don't change course, many of the biggest cities in the Middle East and South Asia will be literally unlivably hot. So a place like Calcutta, which I think has about 12 million people living in it, in the summer you won't be able to go outside without risking heat stroke.”
2019-04-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: "The Uninhabitable Earth" author David Wallace-Wells · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT