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  1. And it is like people would go, oh, it's like a cult. You know, it's really bad. But I did replace my addiction with addiction to narcotics anonymous. But I know which addiction I'd rather have. Like I went all the time, often twice a day because it was the only place where I felt completely normal. I'd be around other people going, yeah, I felt like that. Oh yeah, I did that. Oh God, I've messed up this or oh yeah, I had um. You know, liaisons with people that I didn't, I didn't care about. I didn't know, but I thought it would fix me. You'd think, God, these people are so honest. It's, I realize the power in honesty. I mean, that's your thing, right? Speak your truth.

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  2. Well, I learnt about fear of abandonment, I probably hadn't heard that as a phrase. Then I didn't understand. From listening to other people talk about their experiences, sometimes I think, oh no, that wasn't quite my experience. I don't think that's why I used. And then I remember hearing someone and thinking, That's exactly me that hull and it never fills up, and you're constantly trying to fill it with anything and then when they said here is where I'm learning to fill it myself and I thought that's what I want I want to line the hole with something impermeable that means it will fill up and never empty again And there are steps in narcotics anonymous and any twelve step program, and you know, if you work.

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  3. Care what I have to do, I will literally do anything to stop feeling like this. And NA taught me how to live and how to change and how to heal myself I owe NA my life literally but it also gave me my career. And weirdly, having tried to get a job at MTV while I was using all those years. The time they say come in for an interview, we're going to finally screen test you after three years of trying. I was six months clean. I didn't mess it up. You know I turned up on time. In fact, I turned up a bit early. That was new for me. I turned up clean and smelling like flowers. And with a smile on my face and

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  4. And the next morning I woke up, and I felt so full of shame, and I thought I'll go and see Sarah, so I went to see Sarah at work at lunchtime. I sobbed, I said, I'm not expecting you to believe me, and I know I'm going to have to prove myself, but I just wanted to let you know I want to change, and I want to do something about it and I'm going to go to a meeting tonight. And I could see a slight sort of Are you really going to happen? I just thought I don't know how much more I can give you, tell you, but I really, really mean it. So I went to a meeting that night, just spent the next two weeks going to meetings every day and for ninety days after sobbing, just sobbing in every meeting of surrender.

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  5. And then an hour later, I wake up and I think I'm going to phone someone for help. I'm fucked. I can't do this anymore. I phoned this woman who I knew was clean. And it was as if she'd been expecting my call. She goes, Oh, hi, Davina. And I was like, I was just wondering if you're going to a meeting tomorrow. She's like, yeah, yeah, I'm going at six o'clock, you know, world's end. Come and meet me there. I was like, oh, yeah, you know, I'm just interested to see what, you know, what it's like. She says, yeah, great, come along if you want. She didn't ask me what's going on. She didn't ask, which was exactly right

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  6. And I said, Yeah, I didn't want to go and see something really childish like I didn't want to go and see Santana anyway, get out of the car. I'm trying to get out of the car. She slightly shut the doors. It's all egggy, awkward. Slam the door. Walk away from her. Immediately burst into tears and think I'm not going to turn round and let her see I'm crying, you know. Get inside, go straight to bed. My parents, you know, I was sleeping on a camp bed in my in my dad's sort of wardrobe. I'd move out of my boyfriend's home. His fault that I was using, I'd got worse. I'd left my job. I thought that was the thing that was making me used. I'd got worse. I had a car but no money to put petrol in the car. I had nothing. I was on this camp bed and I would sort of walk into the room, which wasn't really a room, it was a cupboard, sit on the bed, go to sleep.

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  7. She gets me in the car and she goes, I know you've been lying to me. We all know you've been lying to us, all your friends, and you are the topic of conversation at every dinner party I go to and this shame. Starts piling on and I started feeling a bit, well fuck you to her and this is virtually my only friend I've got left and I do say well fuck you like fuck you I didn't really know what to say because I couldn't really argue with what she was saying

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  8. And I got in the car And she shut the doors and she said, I'm actually not going to take you to Santana. I need to tell you some things. I was like, yeah. And she said. I know that you've been lying to me. Weirdly I'd been off heroin for a month at that point because I'd been away. I'd done a geographical, I'd gone away looking after someone's nannying for someone for two weeks and got clean and then I'd also been with my mum in Morocco. So I'd had no heroin for a month. But I had just come off the back of a twenty four hour cocaine bender, which had made me realise that heroin wasn't my problem all drugs were my problem. If I wasn't taking heroin, I couldn't take cocaine normally either. I couldn't just take it for four hours and then go to bed. I had to take it for twenty four hours. I was an animal. I thought, oh my God, I'm not just addicted to heroin. Heroin's not, it's all drugs. I've got to stop.

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  9. So my best friend had said she was going to take me to Santana, she didn't use or drink really. She'd had a brain injury when she was younger and she couldn't for ten years, so she didn't. She got me into her car and I was like, I'm so excited about going to see Santana. I was probably. It's a Stephen Butler.

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  10. So heroin. So I was in the end. Addicted to heroin for maybe the last three months of my using. But the nun took over, I think, at that point and was like, you are addicted now you have to stop.

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  11. I'm six months clean and sober. I'm absolutely radioactive. I can't believe I'm sober. I still can't believe I'm waking up with dry sheets. That my pillow, you know, we're talking about small wins. My sheets were dry in the morning, and I'd know when I woke up and I saw daylight, and I think I know this is morning. Is amazing. That's such a win.

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  12. I had the number and I thought I'm going to call this guy. And then I called him and I said, you know, would it be all right? Can I sort of send you a show reel if I did a show reel? Because I'd like to be a presenter on, I didn't even know the word Vijay then on MTV. And he was like, yeah, sure, sure. And I started making show reels. And I must have sent him like three a year and relentlessly called him until he said please stop calling me. After a couple of years he said, could you just? Like, I can't give you a job at the moment. We only want European presenters. And I said, Can you give me someone else's number? And I'll call them instead. And he went, yeah, you can take Mike Caffman's number. So I took Mike Kaffman's number. And eventually, a year later, Mike Caffman said. A vacancy. So I'm 24. just got clean.

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  13. So, me and this girl called Sarah Blondstein and a guy called Graham, we were in charge of entertaining the celebrities from Victoria train station to Amsterdam and back. And it was like Guran, Duran, Zodiac Mind Warp. I mean, it was really, really fun. And I dressed up as a cleaning lady, lipstick on my teeth, curlers in my hair, a tea urn full of champagne, and it was riotous. And at the end of that night, when we were heading back from Amsterdam on the plain, I thought to myself. I am gonna work at MTV. That is the best place those are the best people, and while I was there at that night, and this is This is another defining moment. That night when I'd gone I said to someone, Can I get your number? Because I'd love to kind of look at job prospects at MTV. Would it be all right? And he said, yeah, sure.

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  14. Yeah, it's fun. It's so funny though how quickly that happens. But I'm still friends with loads of them now. Again, it was a great time in my life. Slightly car crash, lots of drugs, lots of kind of madness, but also a very kind of good time in terms of work and having fun. So I was at this agency, loads of beautiful models everywhere. I get approached by this guy who knows I love music. And he said, do you want to run a club with me at Subterranean? And I said, yeah, great. And he said, bring all the beautiful people. So these club nights. Caught the attention of somebody at MTV who was going to launch MTV Europe and they needed to for the launch of MTV Europe in Amsterdam get loads of celebrities from the UK to Amsterdam but do it in a really cool MTV way.

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  15. Yeah, no, so that's quite a good story. So I got a job at Models One after the, and it was by chance, it was complete fluke. I got a job at Models One working on Stephen, the male models section at Models One. I was a booker for the male models. I mean I'm telling you nineteen or twenty year old me walking in there. I was like this is the best job ever. All these gorgeous men looking I fell in love every thirty seconds for the first week. And then what was interesting, it just became, they just became normal. I was like, oh, there's another good looking guy. Whatever.

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  16. Yeah, I mean, that's my natural, that was my natural habitat. So I'd go and I'd like make people feel amazing while they're having their meal and make sure that they had the best service ever. And it felt like a win to me, you know, at the end of the night. I thought, I've done a really good job. I've made loads of people really happy. And that made me feel good about myself. So it was a great job for me.

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  17. But hilarious, you know, it was just part of my path. But that meant that I never went. To Australia, and I got a job as a waitress. I was a really, really good waitress. I loved waitressing. Did you ever do that?

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  18. And then a girlfriend of mine said I'm going to Santrape for two weeks. Do you want to come? And I was like, yeah, but I haven't got much money because I had all my savings and stuff and I didn't want to delve into that. She had quite a lot of money and bless her. She came on the coach with me from Victoria down to Santrape. And her parents had a house there, and then I started dipping into the savings. And then in two weeks I'd spunked eight hundred pounds that I'd saved up for my flight to go back to Australia. and I never went back and that was the kind of you know that was the wild child me dancing on tables in Le Cav Duis and Saint Rpe till God knows what time in the morning hitching a lift off people in Ferraris trying to get back to I mean awful danger danger danger everywhere how I'm still alive I've got no idea

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  19. And this is always something that I Want to say to kids, I didn't really know what I was doing. I was an absolute car crash, I would say, until I was twenty three, twenty four. So when I was nineteen, I was I'd left school. I went to Australia for a few months. I came back and I thought, I'm going to save up money. I'm going to go working. I'm going to save up some money. I'm going to try and get enough money to go back to Australia and live there. I loved it out there. I was clean. I wasn't taking any drugs. I was just driving to the beach. I mean, it was such a different me. And I liked that me. That was the nun. My nun was freed in Australia and I thought I quite like this person. I like who I am.

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  20. I think because I had this fear of abandonment, if I did look at me, look at me enough, look at me, I'm here, everybody, don't leave me, people pleaser. Everybody like me, like that's who I was. And actually what drugs did for me at that time was they made me feel. and made me feel like I was being hugged in that maternal way that they filled this hole that I had here, and then as soon as the drug started running out, the hole would sort of the hole would be there again and I think oh my god where's the nearest thing I can get you know man laughter attention drug help fill the hole so I was always a bit of a kind of You know, a bit of a show off

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  21. I was living with my dad, my stepmum, and they were very kind of solid, straight people, but. My life did slightly change then. So I wasn't really thinking about anything at that point. Really, the time when I started forming. Idea and I was basically just a show off would have been 18.

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  22. I probably need to clarify actually that me and my mum only did drugs twice. I mean, I know that's twice times too many in my book. But I don't want to give this impression that she and I were taking tons of drugs together because that would be a false impression. I just needed to put that there. Yeah. But What did I want to be when I was 16 Yeah, I was quite nihilistic, I think, in a way. I wasn't thinking about anything except for the weekend and where was I going to go and what club could I go to and how could I go out and how could I party? And that was beginning. I moved to London when I was nearly 14. And when I moved to London, suddenly the safety of the country had disappeared and I started finding ways to go out and take drugs and find people that took drugs in London.

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  23. And you have to say, but luckily, and then think of something but luckily. Luckily, it was so dry in the summer. It does mean that the reservoirs will be full. And you finish every negative thought with the positive. And they said it takes about two to three weeks to naturally start thinking, but you know, that's probably not a bad thing. But it's just remembering to do that is so hard.

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  24. They're on this morning as kind of psychology experts. They kind of, they're like, they help you train yourself out of patterns of behavior. Those guys said something that if you are a negative person at the end of, you know, it's raining and it's rained for the third day in a row. You finish your negative sentence with, but luckily.

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  25. You know, a hug from my mum that felt a little bit like a parental hug rather than a needy An angry or that would be a huge like I'd done out on that for a month. I'd be like, yeah, but I got a hug two weeks ago that was epic. You know, so I think you hold on to these little things, but I don't know. Some kids might not see or feel that thing because they don't have that in them. I wonder whether we are born with it. It's such an interesting concept positivity. Can you make yourself positive if you aren't Have you ever spoken to the speakmans? I remember going on this morning. The Speakmans are a couple Nick and Eva.

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  26. And that's how I choose to see everything that's happened to me. I am absolutely not a victim. Sure some of it's been hardened. It's like you said I'm happy we were talking just before we started I'm happy and yes life throws me curveballs but I choose to learn from those and still be happy rather than cling on to the curveball and let it pull me down. But I often wonder whether it was the hardship that made me know small winds or little winds in my life were massive.

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  27. Think it taught me some amazing skills in reading people. So also my granny was unbelievably good at this as well. So people used to think my granny was psychic because somebody would walk in the room and she'd go, are you okay? And they'd walk in smiling, but there would be an eyebrow raise or a flicker of an eye or something, and she'd go. You're right. And they go, oh God, it's your granny's sidekick then like she can read me. She can see straight through. Feel like being with my mother, she could hear by the way she walked. Person she was going to be when she walked through the door. I could hear the steps coming, and I'd think, I know how to behave the minute she walked through that door. So that's an amazing gift

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  28. So, my sister also was my lifeline in Paris. So my sister, who was six years older than me, even though we did do drugs together, and I know that sounds bad She was my rock, like she was my she grounded me when I was in Paris. So we stuck together. We understood what mum was like. We worked her together. Yeah, Caroline And then my mum, you know, but I did like going to Paris and also because I was young and they didn't stop me from doing anything. It was crazy.

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  29. Yeah, like smoking weed at 12, Coke at 15, 14. I did cope with my mum at 15. I did it with my sister at 14. You know, it was like, there was no, and then I get back to the UK and it would be back into your second hand clothes and sort of safe small life, like simple. My life was very simple. I mean, I say secondhand clothes just to give you an idea. I was in my granddad's jumper and an old pair of jeans and I get to Paris and they go, what are you wearing? Here's loads of money. Go and buy some posh loafers and get your hair done. And I'm 12. Like I look like a proper Lilita. But and I'd quickly realize that my life in Paris and my life in the UK, they must never know about each other. Because if they knew in the UK about my life in Paris, they wouldn't let me see my mum. And I didn't care how mad she was. I still wanted to see her. Does that make sense?

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  30. You can do this. And sometimes she'd give me a hug and I'd think, oh my God, this is it. Like this is what it feels like to be hugged by mother. But then other times you'd be reading her, right? It'd be like, well, I've got to be. Got to be sweet little girl. Oh no, I'm gonna have to take care of you. Oh, like now I have to be really good fun. I've got I need to entertain you. It was always wearing a thousand different hats to see how she was going and my granny used to say to me when we did start talking about it when I was older. She said we'd have to like. It would be funny for a month when you came back from France. You'd be a little bit on edge and we'd have to just really get you back into your favourite foods, a routine at bedtime, safety, reground me.

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  31. I oh my god, like, what didn't I see? I mean, my mum would. She would wear, this was quite a funny story. I mean, and some of it makes me laugh now, but she'd go out with me like in a floor length electric blue coat. And we get out. And then she'd go like that to someone. And I'd think, My God, she's naked. Yes, like she'd been naked underneath her coat, and she'd flash someone she'd think it was hilarious. And I'd just be like Oh God, somebody please like make the world disappear But at times, I It's really hard to explain, but I loved my mother. Like, I really wanted her to pull some mummy business out the bag. Like, I was like, come on.

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  32. I'm not sure how hard she fought. I'm not sure that she did. But that was what happened. But I did go and see her in the holidays. But that was. Well, quite crazy

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  33. That was her catchphrase, like, you know, oh It's only bodies, and you'd think, no, that's from someone's husband. Like, that is, you know what I mean? So looking back, she wasn't well herself, but she was so young. Like this was, we're talking 22, 23 when she met my dad. She'd already had a child at 16, been forced to marry the father of that child. They'd got divorced. Then she met my dad. So she was troubled herself, right? And my dad tried to help fix her, but it just wasn't going to work and she ran off with someone else. Having had several affairs and everything, and my dad was broken hearted, absolutely brokenhearted, and the courts in the UK, because I was born in the UK and had been brought up here, gave my granny and my dad custody, which was so rare.

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  34. Well, my mum grew up in France with two parents who were very loving but didn't know how to Give her their time. So I think my mum needed time and contact, but they just gave her a lot of money. They were quite wealthy, and they just, you know, at 18 they gave her a lump sum of money. She went the whole lot on clothes and eats on a raw. She got a food disorder. She was very thin. It was the 60s. She was like a model. She had a Faye done away nose job. She was incredible looking lots of drugs, got a lot of drink, like crazy fun lady, met my dad. My dad was super hot, like young guy. They were an it couple. He was so in love with her. She was completely out of probably a sex addict. When I look back at her life, and unashamedly so the French are very, she was French. French are very different about sex. She was kind of, you know, she was its only bodies.

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  35. So I think that was a defining moment because it's set up a chain of events, a fear of abandonment that kind of made me make some really stupid decisions all through my teenage years into my 20s. And something that I've worked diligently on since my early 20s to let go of.

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  36. And it had all been sorted. But I didn't know that because they just thought, well, she's young, she won't really remember or realise. Let's all just brush it under the carpet. And it's so interesting because nowadays with my children, everything that happens, we're like, how'd you feel about that? Are you okay? Let's talk it through. This didn't happen back in those days, so I grew up thinking that my mum had left me and had never come back. So at about probably four, maybe six months after After she'd gone, I realised that I wasn't going to live with her again, but I was left feeling guilty because I felt like my granny was looking after me. And she didn't want me in some way. Not that she didn't, she was so loving to me, but somehow I was overstaying my welcome.

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  37. It was such a different time that you didn't ask people. Children didn't go where's mummy gone or when's mummy coming back? I knew that I was a guest at my granny's house, but I wasn't. It had all been planned. My granny had been given my custody. My dad was coming down every weekend to be with me. They were sort of sharing custody, but my dad was trying to make money in London and my granny was taking care of me day to day.

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  38. Definitely Realizing the moment I realized my mum wasn't coming back to pick me up. So I got taken to my grannies, my paternal grandmother, most amazing woman called Pippi, got taken to her house in the country, which I knew really well. I used to spend quite a lot of time down there with her. And my mum wasn't with my dad. She was with another man, but I didn't kind of question that. They'd spit up, but I didn't know that or kind of understand. I don't think in my head I realized what was going on. And she said, I'm going on holiday. And, you know, I'll be back. And I was like, okay, great. And I stayed with my granny. And then after a couple of months, I thought, she coming back. But then I thought I didn't want to this was such a different time. You know, I'm 55, so this would have been over 50 years ago.

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  39. It was definitely the worst thing that ever happened to me. I was just trying to be really strong for her. And I kept saying to her, I'm going to be fine She'd put a fence around her, and I thought I'm fucking climbing over the fence and I'm gonna get in. Don't wait for somebody to say that you've got six weeks to live. Because the best seven weeks of my life with my sister with those last seven weeks of hers.

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  40. Like all drugs are my problems. I'd left my job, no money, nothing. I will literally do anything to stop feeling like this. I'm going to phone someone for help. I'm fucked

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  41. Good to be back. After Big Brother, I thought, what else can I do to get famous? So I was always a bit of a show-off. Mum, you made a mistake how great I am. That's at the back of everything. Did cope with my mum at 15. I did it with my sister at 14.

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