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  1. And that was not the case. And I guess that's what I've kind of learned almost 250 times in a row doing the show, which is like every time you think it's going to be embarrassing and there's going to be backlash. That's almost assuredly going to mean something real and vulnerable came out. And I've just seen, I've yet to see vulnerability met with shittiness thus far. I mean, it'll certainly happen. And certainly some things I've admitted have been mildly weaponized by different political points of view. But in general, I've just been so encouraged. And, you know, a little bit, the premise of why I wanted to do the show is that I'm in a 12-step program. I'm in AA. I watch people. I've watched people for the last 17 years share things that should make you hate them. But when they do it and they're owning it as a fault or a mistake or a character defect,

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  2. My Yes, too, but too much of a commitment No, she has had nothing but incredibly positive moving reactions to that. And I do think she thought maybe what I have thought in the past, which is, oh, she says this is going to be embarrassing to her brothers or her other family members, right?

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  3. Oh, yeah. Although it is filtered at a certain point, as I'm sure you experience, like in general, if someone's listening to your show, they probably like you, you know. I doubt people hate listening to you the way they did to Howard Stern in the 90s.

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  4. Puts me in a much better spot than maybe I don't know what your relationship is with your parents. Are they still married?

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  5. Separately about that. And so, yeah, that was a neat part of it that I never thought to really ask her in real life. But then once in this context, it seemed very obvious I should ask that. And so I dug it. I could definitely see it going off the rails. And I'll also add one thing about my mom, which is I one time told a story on a talk show that was embarrassed her. And she called me and she was a little embarrassed and I felt really bad. And I said, I'm sorry. I guess I sometimes just assume you're as open as I am or whatever it is. And then she called me back about a week and a half later and she said, you know what? I was wrong to call you. This is your story and you have a full right to tell your story. And it involves me sometimes. And that can be sometimes I'm embarrassed by that. But you certainly, if you have any rights to tell your own story. So I already had that relationship. So I think that.

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  6. God, how could someone as tough as you and as confident as you have lived with someone that was beating you up? It's hard for me to, you don't fit the stereotype I have of someone with low self-esteem that would find themselves in that relationship. And she said, again, I've never asked her that, but she said, you know, the shame of having failed twice. got divorced from your dad and I didn't want to tell my parents and that didn't go easy and everyone was disappointed and I felt like a failure and now I picked this other guy and I probably did it haphazardly and here I was again and I was I would have preferred to have gotten physically beat up than to own the shame of having failed twice in such a short period of time and I think that ended up being one of the most profound things that happened in that I know a lot of women reached out to us and really related to that and have contacted my mom

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  7. Person who does interviews was operating on some level, and so there are obvious things that I would have asked for follow-up questions with any other guest that I had never asked my mom. And I guess the one that was probably most profound is My mom has this incredible story, three divorces started as a gander night shift, built a company, raised three kids on her own.

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  8. In interviews, it's a stressful situation. As you just said, I think people underestimate how much of a starter pistol goes off when you're on one of those talk shows. It's like you're standing behind a door. It's about to raise up. You're supposed to walk out to the right and to the left and you shake the guy's hand, then you sit down, then you let, you know, it's so quick in like being shot out of a cannon that it's very hard to relax and be yourself out there. I had an appropriate amount of fear that she would maybe just not be the person I know once there was a microphone in front of her. And then to my great delight, she had no problem with it. She was just very comfortable right away. And then I think the unforeseen thing for me was.

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  9. Oh man, what are the parents of the boy driving thinking about? Every baby comes home and cigars are handed out and everyone's excited and this is just not where it should end for anyone. She always had this knack for kind of taking almost the antagonists in stories and having a great deal of empathy for them. And so however much I'm able to do that on our show, it's directly credited to her for sure. And this really kind of willingness to own your fuck-ups in public like she would tell people relative strangers how many times she'd been divorced or this or that. She just didn't seem to fight shame with that. And so I just always admired her about that. And I definitely think that's, if that's why the podcast work, it's attributable to her. So it seemed natural to have her on. But then I had the fear of, you know, my mother's not a public personality. She's not been.

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  10. Well, for me, it felt like I should absolutely do it because the kind of premise of our show is, look, man, it is hard to get through 80 years on this planet and not fuck up royally often. And so my mother just as her, I don't know where she got it from, to be honest with you, but she's always had the most compassionate, empathetic point of view. Like an example would be I lived in a small town, you know, occasionally a young kid would die in a car accident and always drunk driving related and there would be other people in the car and the whole community be mad at the driver and my mother's first thought would always be like

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  11. Yeah, we connected over the phone. And I'll admit to my very, I think it's human, susceptibility to compliments from high status people. I mean, this is deplorable about me, but, you know, certainly people wrote on that episode on our feed that it was nice and everything. And it feels good. But then to see you could consider, quotes, a competitor on some level, or a colleague, I don't know how you want to frame it, but to know that someone else who does what I do listened and liked it is abundantly flattering. I'll sometimes we're both friends with Sam Harris. So if there was an episode I loved of his, I'll tell him that. And then occasionally go, oh, I really liked your. And I'm like, wow, I assume you don't listen. You would never listen to my show because you have your own show. So I don't know. It just gets elevated quickly for me that you had took the time to listen when you spent so much time in the podcast world and you probably want to break from it.

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