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Dr. Tali Sharot

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“So it's a catch because I think what winning means to me is to get what I want. However, as we just said, once you get what you want, then you want something else. So that's still the answer.”
2023-01-09 · The Diary of a CEO · No.1 Neuroscientist: Age 30 to 50 Will Be Your Unhappiest, Here's How To FIX IT! - Dr. Tali Sharot · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So they see them as someone that they don't know that they're not intimate with And you kind of maybe see that. You get that point of view.”
2023-01-09 · The Diary of a CEO · No.1 Neuroscientist: Age 30 to 50 Will Be Your Unhappiest, Here's How To FIX IT! - Dr. Tali Sharot · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That Lori Santos recommends, who's a professor at Yale, and she says, if you just imagine for a minute, like close your eyes and imagine your life without your partner, without like the great house that you have, without like the great job that you have, like if you really imagine it and think about it like that, then the fear comes in. And then when you kind of get out of that, you're like, oh, I appreciate it, right? And you have to probably do it more than two minutes here. But and I feel that's so true when you have kind of, you know how you have a dream, you kind of wake up from this really terrible dream where you lost your partner or something like that.”
2023-01-09 · The Diary of a CEO · No.1 Neuroscientist: Age 30 to 50 Will Be Your Unhappiest, Here's How To FIX IT! - Dr. Tali Sharot · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“COVID, I got COVID, and so I had to go down to the basement. And so I had to spend, you know, five days or a week in the basement. First of all, it wasn't that bad. It was like a little camping experience. And second of all, when like the few days were up, I felt like my home life was so amazing. I came out of the basement. But it turns out, so there's a little exercise.”
2023-01-09 · The Diary of a CEO · No.1 Neuroscientist: Age 30 to 50 Will Be Your Unhappiest, Here's How To FIX IT! - Dr. Tali Sharot · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“My co author happened to read an interview with Julia Roberts, and she was saying how her life, I mean, it's Julia Robbins, of course, like rich and privileged and all of that. But she was talking about her regular life and, you know, she has a couple of kids and her husband, and she wakes up in the morning and there's breakfast and she brings him to school and then, you know, they go have a bike ride and lunch and then picks up the kids and she's like, well, if I did that every day, all day for years and years and years, I'd probably think it was quite boring, you know, and not that great. But once in a few months she goes away and does her filming or whatever and comes back and everything seems like resparkle again, right? Because it kind of feels like new again. So you want to make things feel like they're new. And one way to do it is just to take yourself to another place. Now, you could say, well, maybe I don't have money to go away for the weekend. Well, there's a few solutions for that. So this was interesting.”
2023-01-09 · The Diary of a CEO · No.1 Neuroscientist: Age 30 to 50 Will Be Your Unhappiest, Here's How To FIX IT! - Dr. Tali Sharot · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“When I'm away and when I come back, I mean, it's really resonating, right? It's like, I mean, I feel that a lot, like when I'm kind of, you know, I've been away for a while and I'm on the plane, ready, you know, on the way home. And I'm like, oh, I can't wait to see everyone again. And so what that tells us is that we need a little bit of distance. I think that's what it says, right? That in fact you might want to be away for like a weekend, for a day or so on. And that kind of causes what we call like, it's a bit tacky, but we call it resparkling, like resparkling. We actually got the term from Julia Roberts.”
2023-01-09 · The Diary of a CEO · No.1 Neuroscientist: Age 30 to 50 Will Be Your Unhappiest, Here's How To FIX IT! - Dr. Tali Sharot · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“React in time ahead of time. So that's why we're not responding to things that are unexpected because the model in the brain already told us what is about to happen. And when you surprise people, that's when the Normans go, and then it's attention, right? So we actually talk about relationships. And it seems that when you ask people, and this is from I'm going to mispronounce her name, but a well known relationship expert. And she says that she's done studies. And when you ask people, when do you feel most attracted to your partner? They say one of two things either when you see them in an unexpected way, something that you're not used to. Maybe they're talking to some strangers. Maybe they're on a stage doing something. And the second thing they say is,”
2023-01-09 · The Diary of a CEO · No.1 Neuroscientist: Age 30 to 50 Will Be Your Unhappiest, Here's How To FIX IT! - Dr. Tali Sharot · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah. Actually, I have a few good answers. But I love your examples. I might use a few of them. No, I was just thinking back. I need to use one with my elbow. And I think what you're saying, and I'll talk about the relationship in a minute, but yes, exactly. What you want to do is surprise people, right? Exactly what you're saying. You need the brain to be surprised. I didn't expect that because what the brain is trying to do at all times, it's actually trying not to be surprised. The brain is trying to model the world, to have an internal model of what's outside so I can anticipate what's happening so that I can react in time, right? I want to know like whether it's going to rain. I don't want to be surprised in the rain because I want to bring the umbrella ahead of time. So it's all about I have the best model in the world in my mind so I can predict what's happened so I can”
2023-01-09 · The Diary of a CEO · No.1 Neuroscientist: Age 30 to 50 Will Be Your Unhappiest, Here's How To FIX IT! - Dr. Tali Sharot · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Are constant or very, very slow. Or risk, actually we have a whole chapter about risk, risk adaptation, right? So how you get used to taking risks and you don't notice the risks anymore. You underestimate the risks because you get used to that.”
2023-01-09 · The Diary of a CEO · No.1 Neuroscientist: Age 30 to 50 Will Be Your Unhappiest, Here's How To FIX IT! - Dr. Tali Sharot · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Us a little bit less grateful and happy. And the flip side is the side that people haven't noticed so much, which I think most of our book is, which is about the fact that we stop noticing the bad things around us. Things like, for example, if you go, as we talked about a little bit before we started, you go on Twitter when you just started Twitter 2010 or whatever, you'd go on in it and you'd be like, oh, this is terrible. People are calling names to other people. There's all this harassment online and you're kind of, you notice it and you're, and then you get used to it. You don't notice it anymore. So whether it is misinformation that is around us, whether it is, you know, dishonesty, even things like the reason that we don't really notice climate change around us is because it's happening so, so, so slowly. And our brain doesn't respond to things.”
2023-01-09 · The Diary of a CEO · No.1 Neuroscientist: Age 30 to 50 Will Be Your Unhappiest, Here's How To FIX IT! - Dr. Tali Sharot · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Remember going to a bar and was full of smoke before smoking with bands. You'd go in and you'd be like, and then you don't notice it anymore. The reason is that's how our neurons work. That's how the brain work. The neurons will respond to things that are novel new just happened. And after a while, they adapt and they stop responding physically, they just stop responding. So, okay, fine, that's fine when you comes to sound or smoke and so on, but it happens to everything. It also has what we call emotional adaptation. So you meet your partner and it's so exciting and you're so grateful and you really kind of feel the love. And so, and it goes down over time if they're constant, if they're with you, you just don't notice how wonderful, you know, what is around you. You got a new job that you always dreamed of and you're so happy, but very, very soon you think, you know, what is the next thing? Now, that's not a bad thing. The reason that we do that is because we want to progress. But it also makes.”
2023-01-09 · The Diary of a CEO · No.1 Neuroscientist: Age 30 to 50 Will Be Your Unhappiest, Here's How To FIX IT! - Dr. Tali Sharot · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, the book that I'm working on at the moment, which probably will be out in about one year in 2024, is about how is it that in fact we're not noticing a lot of the things around us, a lot of the good things around us, a lot of the bad things around us. And in fact, the reason for it is a basic physiological reason of how our mind works every single neuron in our brain actually. And what it is, is that when something is constant, doesn't change in front of us, we stop noticing it. We stop feeling it. We stop responding to it. So something simple like you jump into a pool, it's really cold. After a few seconds, doesn't feel that cold. Or there's like the refrigerator noise. It really bothers you because you just walked into the room. But after a few minutes or maybe half an hour or maybe 10 minutes, you stop noticing it. You go to, I don't know, like if people still...”
2023-01-09 · The Diary of a CEO · No.1 Neuroscientist: Age 30 to 50 Will Be Your Unhappiest, Here's How To FIX IT! - Dr. Tali Sharot · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Highlight how you can get through it, right? So, okay, so this is all the workload and these are all the problems that can, there are hurdles, these are the problems, either are the hurdles, but okay, let's think through how we go we actually overcome them rather than just put it out there, right, walk through about what, okay, what are we going to do in order to get to where we want? And then the other thing that we talked about the other a little bit ago is progress monitoring. That's always helpful. Like not just saying that things are progressed. If you can actually like if there's a way to see it, right? If there's an actual way to like put it on a board or something like that. Because again, like just enhancing people's confidence and optimism will reduce stress as well.”
2023-01-09 · The Diary of a CEO · No.1 Neuroscientist: Age 30 to 50 Will Be Your Unhappiest, Here's How To FIX IT! - Dr. Tali Sharot · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So I actually think my answer is going to be extremely simple because the research shows that simple things, like, and this is so simple that I'm exercising, actually is great at reducing stress. I don't do things like meditation and so on, but people, there are studies showing that that also reduces stress. I actually think those are really important going outside walking in nature, right? Social interaction. So there's all of these things that can reduce stress. And I really believe that just having, and this kind of sounds like really that's, but just working out like an hour in the morning or something like that is going to hugely change, it reduces stress, it makes you more focused. Then if you want to do like something more psychologically, you can”
2023-01-09 · The Diary of a CEO · No.1 Neuroscientist: Age 30 to 50 Will Be Your Unhappiest, Here's How To FIX IT! - Dr. Tali Sharot · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, because we said that stress is your own reaction within yourself, and that reaction can be different to the same outside environment, then what you really want is to reduce people's stress and not necessarily not put the pressure on them, right? I mean, that's the better, right? You could basically do two things. You could say, oh, put less pressure on them. I mean, less give them less work to do. Or on the other hand, you could be like, well, actually, let's. Stay with this amount of work, but can we just reduce the way that they perceive it and the stress that they have?”
2023-01-09 · The Diary of a CEO · No.1 Neuroscientist: Age 30 to 50 Will Be Your Unhappiest, Here's How To FIX IT! - Dr. Tali Sharot · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Because people start focusing on the negative, so they don't see the evidence in the positive information. They kind of focus on the negative information.”
2023-01-09 · The Diary of a CEO · No.1 Neuroscientist: Age 30 to 50 Will Be Your Unhappiest, Here's How To FIX IT! - Dr. Tali Sharot · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And if you look at, you know, if you look at events in the world, whether it's after a terrorist attack or a pandemic or natural disaster, people get a lot of this kind of information, even if it's not happening here. There's a terrorist attack halfway around the world. We get all the information on the media that stresses us out. The stress causes us to focus more on the negative information, which there's a lot of at the time. And that can actually cause people to be overly pessimistic. So a lot of times we're overly optimistic, but actually when really stressful things happen, we could be overly pessimistic. And you can see that in the market, in the financial market, where when the market starts going down, even if it's a little bit, it does cause stress and then start people get overly pessimistic. They start panicking and selling their stocks when really they should be holding on. So we get these like overly pessimistic reactions under stress.”
2023-01-09 · The Diary of a CEO · No.1 Neuroscientist: Age 30 to 50 Will Be Your Unhappiest, Here's How To FIX IT! - Dr. Tali Sharot · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So if you're stressed out, for whatever reason, it doesn't have to be but a business reason you could be stressed because of the conversation you had with your partner, that will then affect how you take the information that I give you. You will now focus more on the negative information, surprisingly negative information that I give you than you would otherwise will.”
2023-01-09 · The Diary of a CEO · No.1 Neuroscientist: Age 30 to 50 Will Be Your Unhappiest, Here's How To FIX IT! - Dr. Tali Sharot · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Happening right, but what kind of I talk about there is that what happens when you are stressed, and when I say stress, I mean you're feeling stressed. Like cortisol is going up and, you know, that people tend to concentrate on negative information. So if we give people, so this is kind of interesting, if we I ask you like, what is the likelihood that you will sell your company and you give me a number and I give you a number and I say, you know, actually based on all my data, you're more likely to sell the company, you will listen to me, you'll change your belief, but when I tell you, actually, based on my data, you're less likely.”
2023-01-09 · The Diary of a CEO · No.1 Neuroscientist: Age 30 to 50 Will Be Your Unhappiest, Here's How To FIX IT! - Dr. Tali Sharot · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's not only about what's happening. It's also about you. So, you know, so you could have what other people will consider a very stressful job. And you're maybe feeling a little bit stressed. And we know, I mean, I'm sure a lot of people know this, that the optimal, there's an optimal kind of inverse U-shape for stress. No stress at all is actually not that great for your performance. And a lot of stress is also not good. You want to be somewhere where you have a certain amount of stress that's driving you forward. But again, that certain amount of stress is the subjective feeling of it. It's not the objective.”
2023-01-09 · The Diary of a CEO · No.1 Neuroscientist: Age 30 to 50 Will Be Your Unhappiest, Here's How To FIX IT! - Dr. Tali Sharot · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I'll actually start with the kind of example that you're talking about. You're saying, well, a lot of the really most filling jobs are highly stressful. But I think the people who take those jobs are somewhat resilient more to stress than others, right? So how much stress you're feeling is a subjective thing.”
2023-01-09 · The Diary of a CEO · No.1 Neuroscientist: Age 30 to 50 Will Be Your Unhappiest, Here's How To FIX IT! - Dr. Tali Sharot · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Right, and also to kind of Be able to vividly imagine this like goal, this better future. Again, it's not because our whatever we think in our mind is changing the world, but it changes your behavior”
2023-01-09 · The Diary of a CEO · No.1 Neuroscientist: Age 30 to 50 Will Be Your Unhappiest, Here's How To FIX IT! - Dr. Tali Sharot · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“If the goal is to not have something happen, not to lose, right? We kind of, I mean, a lot of, I mean, there's on one hand there are these theories about fear gets me motivated. I don't want to lose. That's why I don't really believe that that is the commonly true. I think usually we do stuff to get things rather than to avoid losing things.”
2023-01-09 · The Diary of a CEO · No.1 Neuroscientist: Age 30 to 50 Will Be Your Unhappiest, Here's How To FIX IT! - Dr. Tali Sharot · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I need to just stay put. So, our brain has evolved in this kind of environment that to avoid the bad things, I need to not act. And so when there is anticipation of something bad and no-go reaction is activated, deep in our brain goes all the way to frontal cortex and it inhibits action. Now again, we're sophisticated creatures. We can overcome this, but our immediate reaction is to freeze in this case, not to flee or act, right? First we freeze, then we might be able to do something. And so we see this in like very basic studies where we tell people, press a button to get money or press a button to avoid losing money. They press a button faster to get the dollar than to not avoid losing it because action is related to rewards, right? So it's hard for them to do. I mean, of course, they do it, but there's a little bit of an ambition.”
2023-01-09 · The Diary of a CEO · No.1 Neuroscientist: Age 30 to 50 Will Be Your Unhappiest, Here's How To FIX IT! - Dr. Tali Sharot · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Now, the reverse is that if usually in the world to avoid something bad, usually not always, but usually we just need to not do anything. So whether it's deep waters, untrustworthy people, poison, I usually just need not to eat, not to jump in the pool, right?”
2023-01-09 · The Diary of a CEO · No.1 Neuroscientist: Age 30 to 50 Will Be Your Unhappiest, Here's How To FIX IT! - Dr. Tali Sharot · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“World, that to get something good, whether it is a promotion or love or we have to do something. So I'm thirsty, I need to move my hand and have a little sip of this. T, right? So, and imagine it doesn't necessarily this is a world we live in, but it's not necessarily the way it could have been. It could have been that to get the tea, I'd have to kind of like go like this and not do anything. I imagine like different physics or something, right? But the will that we live in is to get the good stuff you have to do things. And so our brain has evolved in this kind of world where anytime something good we anticipate something good, a go reaction is activated deep in our brain, in the midbrain. It goes all the way to our frontal cortex and makes action more likely.”
2023-01-09 · The Diary of a CEO · No.1 Neuroscientist: Age 30 to 50 Will Be Your Unhappiest, Here's How To FIX IT! - Dr. Tali Sharot · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, so I really like this because it's kind of a fundamental nor scientific finding that it's a little bit of a leap, but tells you something really interesting in how to get people to do something or not to do something. So basically, what we find is that if you want to induce action, it's more helpful to highlight the rewards. If you do this, you know, if you put the time in, you know, you're going to get a promotion and less so about the fear that if you don't do this, you won't get a promotion. So if you want people to act highlighting rewards, highlighting the good time, the good outcomes is better. If you want people not to act, let's say you want them not to reveal some secret, actually highlighting the punishment is better. And why is that? So this is where I find it really interesting, which is we kind of evolved in a way.”
2023-01-09 · The Diary of a CEO · No.1 Neuroscientist: Age 30 to 50 Will Be Your Unhappiest, Here's How To FIX IT! - Dr. Tali Sharot · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You see that, for example, people with mental health problems, I mean pre-existing ones, they had trouble adapting to this new situation. Younger individuals did worse than older individuals maybe because of that U-shape curve. But in general, people adapt faster than they believe they will. And I think that goes back to our question of why don't people take risks and why don't they make changes? I think because one of the reasons is they're afraid that they won't adapt to the change, right? and they underestimate how fast and how well humans adapt to changes in their environment and their situation. I mean, this is basically why our species did so well and why we're all here today, I think, because we can just adapt to these different environment changes.”
2023-01-09 · The Diary of a CEO · No.1 Neuroscientist: Age 30 to 50 Will Be Your Unhappiest, Here's How To FIX IT! - Dr. Tali Sharot · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“If I was to tell you you're going to have to stay at home and not see anyone else, and you'd be like, this is disaster. How's it going to happen? People adapt it quite fast. Yes, stress, we did studies. We actually started doing studies a few weeks after the pandemic started. We did see, of course, stress and anxiety was enhanced. But, A, not as much as we thought. And number two, the bouncing back was extremely surprising. Within just a couple of months, a lot of people were back to their baseline happiness. So adaptation is really fast. You kind of find ways to overcome these things. That being said, that was like a bird's eye view because there were parts of the population that were not doing well, right? So if you kind of take a worm's eye view.”
2023-01-09 · The Diary of a CEO · No.1 Neuroscientist: Age 30 to 50 Will Be Your Unhappiest, Here's How To FIX IT! - Dr. Tali Sharot · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But I think being in a relationship was inducing happiness. The other kind of interesting finding about that is that how fast people get over divorce, right? That it takes, I mean, I don't know if it's fast or not, but within like, so just before a few years before you get divorced, happiness starts going down because of course there's problems, I guess, and so on. And it actually hits rock bottom just about the time that you get divorced, and then it starts going up. You start adapting, right? And in fact, goes back to baseline levels of happiness within about two years. I don't know, maybe two years is a lot, but then people bounce back. So when you kind of think about these changes, which could be negative, right, divorce, I think people don't consider as much our ability to adapt so fast, right? To change so fast. I think COVID was a really good example, the pandemic. I mean, before the pandemic,”
2023-01-09 · The Diary of a CEO · No.1 Neuroscientist: Age 30 to 50 Will Be Your Unhappiest, Here's How To FIX IT! - Dr. Tali Sharot · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But I think, okay, so that was a little bit, it's been a while since I looked at this, but I think it was nuanced, which is what does make you happy is being in a relationship. I believe that did make whether you were married or not married didn't really matter.”
2023-01-09 · The Diary of a CEO · No.1 Neuroscientist: Age 30 to 50 Will Be Your Unhappiest, Here's How To FIX IT! - Dr. Tali Sharot · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Absolutely. I mean, meaning is important, and you should do things, you should make choices according to meaning as well. And obviously, there are individual differences. In my case, they just actually make me happy. I can like dance with them in my, you know, at home and actual happiness. But, you know, it can obviously, it's different. And it's not like all the time, of course.”
2023-01-09 · The Diary of a CEO · No.1 Neuroscientist: Age 30 to 50 Will Be Your Unhappiest, Here's How To FIX IT! - Dr. Tali Sharot · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Interpret the data. I'm sure having children can be difficult and it depends on your life circumstances and all of that. temperament of the child and so on, and so I'm sure it could be, it could be difficult.”
2023-01-09 · The Diary of a CEO · No.1 Neuroscientist: Age 30 to 50 Will Be Your Unhappiest, Here's How To FIX IT! - Dr. Tali Sharot · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Truly. I mean, I'm surprised, you know, before they were born, I was thinking, look, if, you know, if I don't like them, we'll put them in boarding school. And my mom was like, I don't think you want to put them in boarding school. You're probably, and I was like, well, we'll see. And then no, absolutely love having them around. But that's just an N of One. So I don't know. And of course, your own experience, unfortunately, even as a scientist, shapes the way that you can.”
2023-01-09 · The Diary of a CEO · No.1 Neuroscientist: Age 30 to 50 Will Be Your Unhappiest, Here's How To FIX IT! - Dr. Tali Sharot · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Oh, no, it's apparently, I mean, the data shows, I mean, there's a little different points of data. So, for example, there's one piece of data that shows that this was done by actually Daniel Kahneman, who's a Nobel Prize winner, where they asked a large group of French women to say how happy they were for out the day. So I don't know, every few hours or maybe at the end of the day, they said what they were doing and how happy they were, and they found that the least happy people are is commuting. But then I think number two least happy was being with their children. So I have to tell you from my audience, this is an anecdote, an N of One, my children really make me extremely happy. I love being with them. It's contrary to all the research. So I...”
2023-01-09 · The Diary of a CEO · No.1 Neuroscientist: Age 30 to 50 Will Be Your Unhappiest, Here's How To FIX IT! - Dr. Tali Sharot · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And I actually, I mean, I believed it. I mean, that's a data. What are you going to do? And that kind of got me worried, I have to say, about having kids. I was a little bit worried about the fact that it says children, you know, children don't make you happy. You become less happy.”
2023-01-09 · The Diary of a CEO · No.1 Neuroscientist: Age 30 to 50 Will Be Your Unhappiest, Here's How To FIX IT! - Dr. Tali Sharot · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“He's upstairs and he's watching this Leo. No, but it's absolutely true because it's funny because of that research. And I wrote the first, this is in my first book, The Optimism Bias, which I wrote before my kids.”
2023-01-09 · The Diary of a CEO · No.1 Neuroscientist: Age 30 to 50 Will Be Your Unhappiest, Here's How To FIX IT! - Dr. Tali Sharot · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, first of all, I want to say this is just a research in the numbers. And I'm not just saying this, but my own experience is the absolute opposite.”
2023-01-09 · The Diary of a CEO · No.1 Neuroscientist: Age 30 to 50 Will Be Your Unhappiest, Here's How To FIX IT! - Dr. Tali Sharot · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Oh, you've got time. You've got time. I'm about to turn. I'm looking forward. I'm on the way. Well, not quite yet, but I'm about on my way up.”
2023-01-09 · The Diary of a CEO · No.1 Neuroscientist: Age 30 to 50 Will Be Your Unhappiest, Here's How To FIX IT! - Dr. Tali Sharot · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Romania, and I forget there's another one where you actually don't see, they actually just become less and less, less happy in those countries. We don't know why that is that specific case”
2023-01-09 · The Diary of a CEO · No.1 Neuroscientist: Age 30 to 50 Will Be Your Unhappiest, Here's How To FIX IT! - Dr. Tali Sharot · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Then it goes down and reaches rock bottom in your midlife, as well as optimism does. So actually, in middle age, you stop having an optimism bias. So your optimism bias is greater, greatest in children's and kids. It causes go down, down, down. And then really there's no optimism bias in midlife on average, of course. And then it starts going up, you become happier and more optimistic until the last few years of life, which is counterintuitive to our image of the grumpy old man, right? And actually stays there until the couple last couple years of life. The difference between countries is that the dip, you know, the point where it's lowest actually is a little bit different between country and country. I think in the US it's about 40. It's a relatively early. I think in the UK as well, but then some countries as much, I think like Italy might be 50, Greece as well, like 50 to 60. And then there's a few countries where you don't see that. Russia is one of them.”
2023-01-09 · The Diary of a CEO · No.1 Neuroscientist: Age 30 to 50 Will Be Your Unhappiest, Here's How To FIX IT! - Dr. Tali Sharot · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah. No, so this is true. It's based on many studies and studies involving thousands and thousands of individuals, up to like 70,000 or more in a country. And it's been shown in many, many countries. So not just in the Western world, in many, many countries, almost all countries around the world. So exactly what you said. Kids and children, they're happiest and the most optimistic.”
2023-01-09 · The Diary of a CEO · No.1 Neuroscientist: Age 30 to 50 Will Be Your Unhappiest, Here's How To FIX IT! - Dr. Tali Sharot · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, so there's a really tight link between depression and pessimism. So pessimism is a symptom of depression, an actual symptom. And so what we see is people with severe depression have a pessimistic bias. They expect the future to be worse than it ends up being and worse than the evidence in front of them is. People with mild depression have no bias at all. This doesn't mean they're accurate. They can make mistakes, but on both sides. So sometimes they expect things to be better, sometimes they expect things to be worse, but overall.”
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“In a really bad state because I don't know something else. Your parent was sick or something. So he teaches the people to kind of interpret this, to find these reasons for the positive and negative. And it seemed to work to some extent. Now, it's difficult. It's not easy to turn a pessimist into an optimist, but it had some effect on their well-being and even on their physical health as a result.”
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“When something bad happens, they say this bad thing happened because of me, because of a trait that I have, and because I have this trait, let's say I'm bad with people, that's going to affect all the rest of my life and all these future projects. When something good happened, it's circumstantial. Good thing happened. I got the job, but really because they didn't have any other people candidates. So what Martin Sagman did is he taught people this interpretation style. He taught them whenever something good happens, this is how you have to think about it. You have to think about it. What is it about you that caused this positive thing to happen, right? And how is that positive trait or whatever skill, whatever thing you did, how can it affect other parts of your life and other future outcomes? And the opposite for negative. If something negative happened, I don't mean it don't take responsibility, but are there circumstantial, right? It could be something that you did, but it doesn't have to be permanent, right? You happen to have been.”
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“Work well in life, right? If I'm in hard work or if I'm a good with people, that also means that I'll be a good dad, for example. When something negative happens, they tend to do the opposite. They tend to see it as circumstantial, right? This negative thing happened. Okay, so I didn't put a lot of effort in this, but not because I'm not a hard worker. I just didn't put an effort because I was distracted by something else or, you know, this other person just happened to have a better proposal. So it's circumstantial. That means that they don't take that as evidence of how am I going to perform in the future, right? So it's a really different interpretation of negative outcomes and positive outcomes. So what, and then pessimists do the exact opposite.”
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“Okay, so first of all, I just want to mention that about 30% of how optimistic we are is genetically determined. This has been shown from twin studies. But that still leaves two thirds, right? I think the best studies on this comes probably from Martin Seligman, where he actually did experiments where he got people who were somewhat pessimistic, even slightly depressed. And the approach that he took is to change the what he calls interpretation style. So Optimus, this is what they usually do. If something happened and it went well, right? You sold your startup for a lot of money, you had a project, and it was successful. They usually interpret that as meaning that it's personally, it's something about them that caused this positive outcome, right? And it is something in them that's quite permanent, let's say my project went well because I'm a hard worker, right? And, you know, maybe I'm intelligent or whatever. And then they say, well, if I have those skills, that means that a lot of other things are going to.”
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“So if you are able to get people to have these kind of experiences, that then causes them to become more confident, that will then enhance their optimism.”
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“I think it might be, yes. I think you are gaining evidence that you can do things. And I think even if you fail, you still gained evidence that you were able to try something new.”
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“That is quite clear. And again, we don't know, is it because I'm optimistic that I'm more likely to be an entrepreneur? Or is it something about being an entrepreneur that makes me more optimistic? But what they found is after you become an entrepreneur, you become even more optimistic. So that suggests that there is something, it is true that optimistic people are more likely to take a chance, more likely to take a risk, and therefore more likely to be entrepreneurs. And that experience of doing that enhances your optimism further, which is really interesting. It kind of goes both ways.”
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