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Dustin Yellin

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“I wouldn't even know where to read some poetry. Think of this whole thing as a poem, you know. Realize that all of our, I guess, if people could just fucking come together and the injustices and the incomprehensible horrors that this species has created with some of also the great things on the planet in the past, let the past, let us learn from it, but know that going forward, we really, if we choose to can build the world that everyone wants to live in together, you know, in a way that is equal and just. And we can all sort of support and love each other to keep fucking inventing the dream.”
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“No, I mean, I guess I probably have semblances of all of those feelings, but if anything, I feel the wonder. And possibility. Of what we can make as a species together or as an individual, that it's all possible, right? That it's like if I look at a white piece of paper and then four hours later, there's a drawing there, there was nothing and now there's something. And this idea between nothing and something is really interesting because if you look at cities and technologies and all of it, there was nothing and then there was something. And so We really do have that capacity to create. Absolutely anything all of the time.”
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“Absolutely. I feel that every day because it's true. I mean, Until we've come to a place where there's more harmony and more equality and more justice and harmony. On our planet, that we share, I certainly feel like I've done nothing. I mean, because if anything is possible, then. About how much we can do together than what I've done in the past, and if the past is no longer... Now, then therefore, I've done nothing. So I kind of feel that way all the time.”
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“It's a really cool project. I'm working with BRK Ingels, who's an amazing architect, and I'm working with Arab engineering, and I'm working with all these cool people who are helping me to realize this dream.”
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“It's twice the size of the statue of liberty. And yes, it's a monument to the end of fossil fuels. It's like a monument to say, look, we can power the earth with water and with sun and with various other technologies if we can scale them.”
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“Where used to control the ship from, hence the name of the bridge also double name. And through the experience of visiting this monument, you'll learn about the history of energy and potentially the future of how we can responsibly shepherd in a cleaner, safer way to power the earth. So, yeah, so that's the bridge. I'm basically just putting a super tanker on his nose. Again, love. That's probably, you know, I love Fitz Geraldo pulling a boat over a mountain. I'm now trying to take a boat the size of a building and put it on its nose.”
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“Super tanker moves fossil fuels around, and I've been obsessed with this thing for years, and now it's got a little bit of movement, but it's just this idea of how do you bring awareness to getting away from fossil fuels? And I'm working on a project called the Bridge because it's a bridge from the past to the future of how we use and think about energy where I'm taking a super tanker, which is a boat that moves oil around. And it started to be at like 1,200 feet. It's not as big anymore, but it'll still be the largest lift, I think, in history, where we're taking a super tanker and literally in one moment, we're pulling it up and putting it on its nose, basically like almost like a monument to the end of fossil fuels. And we're coating it so that safely, let's say a million or a million and a half visitors can go take elevators through the boat up to the top of it and then get to an observation deck, which is made of the bridge.”
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“Education or healthcare. Why is the world look the way it does when really it could be so, so incredibly dreamy if we all just decided together to do that?”
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“Yeah, no, I would just want to try to get everybody to love each other, like get everyone to be a little bit more tolerant, a little bit more open, a little, you know, F. Scott Fitzgerald said that a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposing ideas in the mind simultaneously and still retain the ability to function so that if we could just somehow accept our differences as the great glue that creates the complexity and miracle of what we experience. So, I mean, that would be the thing I would try to somehow portray is to say that, look, all of us, every single one of us is experiencing the same thing differently, and we're all made of the same stuff. And we're all sharing the same stuff. So why on earth are we deploying capital at such a scale to defense opposed?”
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“Literally, no. I mean, I did. It's true that I used to break dance on Venice boardwalk like when we were living there for a heartbeat. And I would fucking, I remember like moving up starting on cardboard. And then like people would give me like 15 bucks over the few hours. And then I moved up to linoleum, which I thought was cool. I do not know how the Jay-Z video happened. I mean, he's cool. I'd like to actually have a coffee with him at some point.”
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“I think it's probably the latter is like look, the rest of your life is almost over. So you better get into it now You know what I mean? This is it. There is nothing else but to this fucking minute, this hour. And I have a hard time, I think, thinking about forever or for the rest of my life. And I think it's posited some challenges probably in like maybe why I haven't started a family yet or maybe I need to start a family right away or making decisions in interpersonal relationships, I think it's challenged me because I'm like, this is it. right now i could literally be gone in 12 hours it's completely plausible and therefore i want to open up the aperture and maybe that's through meditation or maybe that's just through listening and being quiet but i want to open up the aperture as much as possible all of the time and feel as much as possible all of the time because the way that i feel right now may be gone”
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“Know how it works. I definitely have been obsessed with it always and still am. And again, back to that idea of over system overload. Well, if I think about right now how many summers left do I have? You know, call it 50 for the sake of the conversation. You too. You and I have, let's say, 50 summers left. Well, fuck 50 summers is like lunch. It's so fast. It's so quick and finite. And so I don't know if that affects my relationship to death, even though I think it might be infinite and that somehow, I don't know how it really works. But yeah, death has really informed maybe losing someone, the closest person to me at such a young age, I think really it changed the way I see the world completely.”
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“Yeah, well, I mean, I'm an old man now. I've lost a lot of people. But when I was young, young, 25, I lost my best friend and who was like my mentor and teacher was a teacher. And I think that completely affected me for the rest of my life. And since then, I've lost a lot of people, including one of my mentors who was older than me. And I think when I was young, I was always obsessed with death. And I think I probably still am because I think of You know, I don't know how time works. I think it maybe is that the past and the present and the future exists simultaneously and somehow you can access it. And I'm not sure that when the body dies or we die here, that it's all gone. I'm very much an optimist and think that maybe there's some semblance of it that we can still tap into because energy cannot be destroyed. I don't.”
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“To the present simultaneously, where there's these weird narratives on the sea and there's a super tanker sinking, which is connected to another project. And there's animals coming out of the supertanker as an allegory to the arc”
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“So everything is mirrored, you know, the tunnels in the future are straight and modern and in the past organic. And in the future, there's the same tree that's growing and the future's growing in the same place in the past, or where there's a particle accelerator in the future, there's a cave of minerals in the past, or where there's like a group Sisyphus moment in the past underneath the ocean, where the animal headed humans are pushing a boulder to capture a sea monster in a cave. That same moment's happening in the same place underneath the ocean in the future, but its astronauts pushing a machine to capture data that's coming out of the sea. And where the moon is in the future there's the sun in the past, and you've got Mars right in the middle splitting the worlds, and the future in the past are also depicted by waterfalls falling in”
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“Yeah, I'd be so content. In fact, that life calls me constantly. But I try to do these really, like the new piece, The Politics of Eternity, was really cool. It's got like a whole narrative where I'm trying to depict the past and the future simultaneously. And in the future, there is astronauts inhabiting the world, if you will The past, where there would be astronauts, there's animal-headed humans, if that makes sense to you. And everything is mirrored. So in the future, they're building a rocket on the top of a mountain. And in the same place in the past, they're building a totemic antenna to the gods.”
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“I'd probably go like, I don't know, become like, yeah, go live in a fucking tropic somewhere and live off of coconuts. I'm always like, you know, if it were anyone.”
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“Oh, yeah, of course. You gotta be able to die for it. Quite literally, in a way. You got to just be like, this is the thing. And I've done that with the works. I mean, the last work I finished The Politics of Eternity, which is only the third large work. Narrative work, you know, it took me a couple of years. And I almost bankrupted my studio to make it. And I do that constantly. I'm like, I don't give a fuck about anything but making the thing.”
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“Well, I don't know. Maybe too much looking at what the people around them are doing, opposed to finding their voice, their experience and through their lens of life. And I think that might happen in art schools or getting too obsessed with one period in art history that moves them and then sort of trying to emulate or build off of it too much opposed to again finding out what is in the bottom of their brains. That might be one thing. I mean, something also, I mean, and also just knowing that it's not a job, it's like if you think you can stop doing it to do something else, maybe stop, there's nothing else you can do, never fucking giving up, basically, just like and always pushing and pushing and trying and not giving a fuck about what comes out at the other end really, but more about learning from the process of making the thing.”
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“£3,000 glass block, and it could really almost like a microscope slide. The DNA of our species can be told through images and through media that's been found and trapped and preserved. And so like contrary. Frozen movies they tell stories through collections of ideas.”
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“It's toxic, and I was scaling the work, and I was in masks all the time, and it wasn't a fun way to work, but I was actually developing a language that I was really connecting to. And so I switched over to the layers of glass. And that allowed me to change my mind and edit and go back and forth because with the resin, I could only go backwards. I could never change my mind. So it was really a series of accidents. In the psychogeography is really, you know, I'm not even one. I don't think that really connects so much to figurative art. So it's weird that I've spent a decade on a project like that. But at the end of the day, I'm just trying, I feel like I'm trying to make maps of consciousness. I'm trying to make things that like a fucking meteor hits the earth and, you know, maybe one of the things that's left, you know, you dig it out of the dirt.”
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“Out of pages of a dictionary that I was ripping up, and Agnes Martin, who's an artist, grid of dictionary pages. And I started pouring resin on the thing and I saw an optical quality and B got stuck and poured more resin. And then I decided to make these sort of boxes of resin, Joseph Cornell inspired. I love Joseph Cornell like boxes with objects. And I started drawing and layers of resin. And then I took the, I saw something that looked almost biological and I took the objects out and I started just making these like dendrite drawings, almost invented specimens and I got obsessed. And I did that for some time and created lots of botanical looking drawings and layers of resin. And eventually I tried drawing a human in the layers of resin and I was starting to get shows and I couldn't, the resin was going to kill me.”
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“Yeah. And then we should, I mean, the newest one, you haven't seen, I don't know if you saw the politics of eternity finished. That's a cool one. But I mean, really all this was experimentation accident. And, you know, I was making collages. I always loved collage. I always loved, again, kind of what we were talking about. How do you not have system overload? Maybe one of the ways I deal with the system overload is I love amalgamations and I love bringing things together. And Pioneer Works is that with people, right? But with artwork, you know, I used to or still love to make paintings and collages and drawings and things out of rocks. I'm constantly putting disparate things together and very much interested in the relationships between those pieces. And I was making a collage many years ago”
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“Well, I mean, I guess I should just go backwards a little bit with the work. I don't know. You mean, like, how did I start making work in layers or just the psyches?”
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“Them together with a glue that has the same refractive index. And the psychogeographies that you're discussing or we're discussing are about 3,000 pounds each. And I've made works that are up to like. Modulated in 24,000 pounds or whatnot.”
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“Sure. I mean, one way I try to describe it, like if I'm trying to describe it to a young person, I just make window sandwiches. I just take a piece of glass. I just take like a window, piece of glass, and I draw on it, and I cut up my homework, let's say, or I cut up an encyclopedia and I glue little pieces, a little human with a head of an elephant, you know, next to an amethyst crystal next to like a piece of architecture, you know, from Baus, whatever. I'm just like rambling. But my point is I'm cutting up little pieces of paper and drawings, and I'm putting them on the layer of glass. And then I add another piece of glass on top, and I do that again. But within relationship to what I did before, and then again and again and again. And the next thing you know, you have 30 windows on top of each other and all the drawings mark making and all of the pieces of paper and collage on every single layer in concert together make up a psychogeography or tell a story. And then I glue the”
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“Well We're talking specifically about the psychogeographies They're meant to be this installation that's taking me, I don't know how long until I finish it, 10 or 15 years, of about hundred and twenty humans that are kind of like, if you think about the terracotta warriors, they're meant to be this group of together. And they're kind of like, I kind of think of them as consciousness or something, or of a, yeah, if you're taking, if I took your brain and smashed it together. And made a map of everything inside of it that you could read through images. That's what they are. So, you know, often within a psychogeography, you'll have tens of thousands of images that I'm finding from a hundred years' worth of books and magazines mixed in with paintings and drawings on the layers of glass.”
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“Yeah, like, can I just live with it? Can my kids live with it now? I don't have any yet, but if I did, and how will I feel about it in a hundred years? Like, will it still make sense to me in a system of objects or in a system of ideas? And so I honestly think that the work just the work is the work. Like if you tear away all the writing about the work and all the bullshit or all of it and you just literally are left with the thing, will that tell a story and will that move someone to maybe change their aperture or the way they see the world? It happens over just a very, very, very long time. You learn from each thing you do. It's like it's the way like, what is it called LIDAR works, right? With cars, right? Like it's learning. It's like, or an AI is learning. That's how art really works, right? You just keep learning.”
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“I think it's cumulative. I think it's so many, many little things because, you know, I remember when I first sold a picture or whatever for, you know, a thousand or five thousand or ten thousand or maybe even 25,000. And I was like, holy fuck, I just got $25,000. We're going to Sizzle, motherfucker. This shit is crazy. I can't believe. Lucky I am. I just made some shit and people paid me for it. That being said, you know. That it's like relative. Now I sell something for $25,000 and it doesn't even move the needle because I have a big, big studio in operation and crazy projects I'm working on. But I would say it happened over 25 years a little bit at a time. And at the end of the day, I think it's the work. You know, I try to ask myself three questions, like, can I live with it? Will I go to sleep next to it each night?”
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“Know the way they say like minded people attract each other, the fact that all of these crazy disciplines are in one building and all of these crazy souls are in one building, that's what creates the gravity, you know, and all, you know, Maria Papova and all the fucking amazing. Talented, magical souls that are coming and going inside of this like vessel. The building is nothing. It's a fucking bunch of bricks. It's bullshit without those people.”
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“The key is the people. And so our incredible board of directors and advisors and staff, it's all on them. Do you know what I mean? I'm just another little cop in the wheel or whatever. Know again, I have to take my hat off to Gabriel and to Janna and to Tommy, who's our director of technology and to just so, Tiffany. And like, there's just so many people over the years, some that are still there, some that aren't there. Daniel Kentar, who's our incredible director of design, who's so talented, it's really just the people. And that's the whole thing. The idea is great too, but it's the people. And maybe those things combobulate because, you know, if you bring a musician on, and this happened so many times where friends of mine who play music, they would come there for the first time or I'd be meeting a musician and showing them around. And they'd be like, holy fuck, this is like, I've dreamed my whole life of a place like this. I cannot believe it exists. How can I be part of this? How can I help? I want to see that at the table. And so...”
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“Like being the showman of, like, and this is what we're gonna do here, and we're gonna do a gap year, a post high school, and a post-college gap year. And then we're gonna raise funds to do more kids programs, and then we're gonna get another, you know, I was like driving my, and it worked, but it got to the point where it was like, I'm gonna fucking die. This is not tenable.”
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“Is really working well now, and there's incredible brain trust and group involved that it's working. And I'd say that it wasn't tenable. By the seventh year in or eighth year in, I mean, I was giving tours five, six, seven tours a day. And, you know, people will come to see my art in my studio and I'd be like, let me show you this other thing. And by the time I'd done my fifth tour on a Friday, I'd be like crying. I'd be like, this is where the music studio is. And we're going to build the observatory. You know, I was like so worn out.”
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“I would say that Couple of different ways. One, I'm lucky. I mean, the last decade has been really challenging to do both, but I try not to think of it as both. So I think of Pioneer Works as a social sculpture. I just think of it as another artwork. And I think, and the way I try to measure some of the success of that artwork is that my obsolescence is my success. So the sooner that I can be obsolete and the thing works really, really well, then I know I've done my job. And here we are a decade later, and I think there's some truth where I can kick it and this thing is going to flourish. 36 months ago, that would not have happened. So I would say that me not being there and it working really well is success. And I think of it as an artwork, that's helped me to do it for so long. I will say I'm at a new place with it because we're, Peter.”
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“By this piece of art, and we might get some windows. And so I would say in the beginning that helped jumpstart the project. And then, you know, somebody was like, you need to start a nonprofit. I didn't know what that was and a board of directors. And I would say at its very best, what PioneerWorks is now and maybe always was and will be is an amalgam of souls. It's a group of people. It's like Gabriel Florens, the artistic director, who's like my brother and Jana. Levin, who I know you know who's like my sister. And family and like all these incredible people who, you know, you know what I used to say and I used to think of it and I still do is Pioneer Works is just a table. It's just a table. And it's like whoever's at the fucking table is making it work.”
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“No, no, no. I'm not selling the art to people. But like, let's say a collector comes in the studio and this happened. I'm like, oh, yeah.”
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“Not say it, but sweetly and somewhat. And I believe it. I was like, look, if you could buy a piece of art from me for a couple hundred thousand dollars, well, then you could help us with this bigger dream, which is not about me or my art, but about a lot of people. And so for years, I did that. If someone wanted to buy my art, I'd be like, look, I'm glad you like this art, but look at this crazy project we're building. And I gave away everything. I mean, I almost bankrupted my art studio every few months because I was just keeping it going barely and then, you know, water heaters, stairs, floors, roof repair, whatever it took to get the building inhabitable. So that was like the first stage was just like, can we get this building safe? And I thought that would take a decade.”
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“Well, I would say a few different things. You know, in the beginning, I was, or for a very long time, even in the beginning, I was just giving away all my money. So if I sold a sculpture, and I would beg people, I'd be like, you want to buy a piece of art? You disgusting capitalist pig. I'm not selling you any art. Help us do this thing. People don't need objects. People need ideas.”
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“We need a place for a democracy and equality program, which is going to require 10 people, a narrative arts program, which, you know, so every right now, it's, yes, it doesn't, you know, we do about 75 residencies a year where we're giving space for free to scientists and artists and writers, et cetera. So we need more place for the residents. So I don't know if that, it feels tiny”
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“So funny because when I got the building, Ironworks built at the end of the Civil War, and I had to beg everybody around me. I couldn't afford the building, and I was begging everyone. And collectors were like, look, here's half a million dollars, you know, get the building and we'll take the art later. I was begging everybody. And I almost, it almost didn't happen. And when I first went in the building, I was like, this thing is giant, like you're saying. And it's about $27,000 square feet inside and about 20,000 square feet outside at its current footprint. We're going to be adding some things. And it felt massive. Now it feels absolutely tiny. Now I walk in there. I'm like, fuck, we have no room. We need five more classrooms. We need to triple the size of the tech department. The science area needs to be twice the size. We need to build recording studios. We have a tiny recording studio, but it's not big enough.”
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“End up being a great model as a learning center. And I don't like to use the word school because it feels like it puts you in something that is old and not necessarily functioning in its current state. So I'd say it's a learning center, a cultural center. When I say culture, I have to circle sciences because a lot of folks don't think about science as part of culture.”
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“Is just an obvious question, I guess. Like, why doesn't this exist? And when I was younger, I started having, you know, roommates and I'd have a loft with lots of people playing music and reading poetry and kind of together. And I sort of had these primitive versions of this naturally. But I guess, so what is Pioneer Works now? It's an institute with a mission. And I don't know if institute's the right word, but its mission is to build community through the arts and sciences to create an open and inspired world. So what does that mean? I mean, it's basically like, how do we use arts and sciences to bring people together to build the world they want to live in? And now it's somewhere between a school and a learning center and a museum and a community center. And I don't know what. It's a social experiment that I think could.”
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“I mean, I think it was just hallucination and a dream. And Genesis, I think, is no, I don't think it was like this great idea that I think every kid in every art school probably had similar sentiments of like, why isn't there a place where I can go where there's writers and scientists and artists and musicians and filmmakers all together in a building sharing ideas, thinking together and dreaming together? Like why wasn't, and I again didn't go to high school. I didn't go to college. And so maybe subliminally or sublimely or somehow this was a way for me to incarnate what I wished to be or wish to experience at some point. But I never understood why isn't there a place where just everybody's together trying to think about how we build this world together? So it started very much. Much is a”
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“Not only that movie, but there's a great documentary about the making of the movie called Burden of Dreams. Burden of Dreams. Yeah, by Les Blank. But Fitz Corraldo, I mean, it's just this ultimate metaphor of this human who wants to bring the opera into the depths of the Amazon and the sort of trials and tribulations of what that means. And in the course of the film, to get out of the jungle, they have to carry a boat over a mountain, which I think is just a great metaphor for what it's like to be alive.”
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“Australian movie 1993, I believe, Bad Boy Bubby. That's a cool movie. Another movie called The Color of Pomegranates. I can never say his name, Parhajanov. He's an Armenian director. I love how Ashby's being there. He also made Harold and Maud. I mean, Jesus, movies. Claude Chabril is a great French director. Obviously, Kubrick, watch all of Kubrick's movies and Tarkovsky's movies and Tarkovsky wrote a great book about filmmaking called”
2020-09-25 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #467: Dustin Yellin on Making Art, Weaving Madness, and Forging Your Own Path · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I often recommend a movie called Fitz Corraldo by Werner Herzog. I highly recommend that and many of Werner's movies. There's a great movie that's really funny. I don't know if you've seen this movie, Tim, called Bad Boy Bubby.”
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“I like to draw and I like to be in the middle of nowhere and I like to smoke marijuana. I mean all these I like to those three things I like a lot. Love to make love. There's a lot of things I think that could help one to, yeah, like somebody got me to meditate on a lake this week. That was pretty cool. Swimming can be good, I guess. Oh, yeah, watching, you know, things like I can watch a movie and it puts me in a world which then makes it so that I'm kind of living that world while watching it. And therefore I'm not thinking about the 10 zillion other possible things I could be watching.”
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“Really, it is. And then, so, but if you play that out and you are kind of trying to till the soil to be aware, or as we said earlier, open our apertures. And the more and more you open your apertures, the more and more you possibly maybe perceive. And Huxley's a great example, an amazing, amazing brain, then how do you mitigate system overload? And so where my challenges have been, I think, is that I'm always trying to widen that aperture. And then at the same time, I'm like, oh, but I should have some kids. And wouldn't it be nice to like do things that happen in the world that maybe require a little closing of the aperture or something or something to focus? Because it feels like just this endless, infinite, awesome sea of possibilities. That is always where you are.”
2020-09-25 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #467: Dustin Yellin on Making Art, Weaving Madness, and Forging Your Own Path · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And then distinguish which ones will fit together in order to make something out of them. And I could say the same thing about people or places or pretty much anything, that there is just so much. If I said to you, I'm just going to read poetry. I'm just going to read Japanese poets for the rest of my life. That in itself I could spend 100 years doing just that or just watching French films or just You know Learning about specific plants. There's so much to learn and to be exposed to and to remember, which I have a very hard time doing, that constantly I'm in system overload. And so when someone, you know, I always get that question, well, what inspires you? What painter? I'm like, fuck, man. I'm inspired by everything. I'm inspired by being conscious right now of the fact that we can have this conversation. That's a fucking miracle.”
2020-09-25 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #467: Dustin Yellin on Making Art, Weaving Madness, and Forging Your Own Path · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I feel that every day, Tim. I feel it every fucking day. I feel the red now. I'll give you an example. I'm making sculptures right now out of rocks and I love rocks. And I go up the valley and I go onto a river where there's, I guess, probably millions of little rocks. And as I'm looking for the rocks, The hot sun with my head sort of gazed down at the ground. I say to myself, holy fuck, there are so many rocks. How could I possibly See them all at the same time”
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