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Dustin Yellin

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“Don't know if there's anything great specific schism that led me there, you know, except that sort of. Corny, silly idea that there's like love and fear. Like, we can all love each other or we can all fear each other. And it seems so simple. Like we can all come together and say, look, we're going to figure out how to be stewards to this planet together and create great clean technologies and great responsible ways for eight or ten billion people to live together. Or we could create conflict and I guess competition and territorialism. And I feel like the idea of a country which is kind of arbitrary and new and religions and sort of different ways in which we draw lines around thought and can maybe create ceilings for us. But for me, it's a very much, I would have guessed, a natural, natural state that we should just all love each other and build the world that we want to inhabit because the entire thing is just.”
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“I think it's to embrace and love your community and to help your community realize their dreams, not just your dreams. And if you can make your dreams part of dreaming that how do we help realize everybody's dreams together in some collective orgy of dreams?”
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“Well, sure. I mean, I think that the species is pretty incredible. And just the way I'm inspired by nature constantly, I'm inspired by people and people are part of nature. And so when I fall in love with... Like Tom's books is a great example, and Tom is a great example. But you could go just down the list and line of incredible souls making amazing drawings and paintings and movies and records and math problems and all of it. All of that stuff to me is fucking amazing, incredible magnetic Material that can help propel you through the world I just want to get turned on more and more and more to all the cool potential that can be unleashed by certain combinations of, I don't know if it's neural activity or if it's meta fucking clouds.”
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“Well, I think I don't know is what I would say. I would say, yes, I've been extraordinarily lucky, lucky. Every day I'm like, just don't die. This shit is so good. Don't die. Don't die, motherfucker. Get one more day in there. I've been very lucky and I'm very grateful for that. I think I'm also very cautious. You know, I'm not doing lots of hard drugs. I'm not, you know, as I've gotten older, I'm slower to jump in a crazy wild ocean if I don't know that I could actually swim in it or into a river if I think that it's going to take me down. So I've been very lucky, but I also think. Yeah, I think you can dive into the infinite complexity of our existence and do that by not just rolling snake eyes every time, but by just being open and curious, which is, I think, the great way for how people learn is by just being curious.”
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“Absolutely. I mean, when I'm drawing, you know, people have been trying to get me to meditate. And I think I've done it, but not in a traditional sense. And a lot of folks would say meditation will take you very much to the same place. Nature, I mean, just, you know, I've been out here hiking every day in the river. I think being conscious, take the hallucinogens out of it completely, but somehow just being conscious of where you are in the world and what you are in the world and the complete incomprehensible mysticism that is inherent in the very fact that you can experience or be conscious of any experience is the same as potentially, you know, in taking in a hallucinogen.”
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“A lot of what is that's amazing. You literally just said what I always say I even said it to someone in this yesterday. I say it almost every 72 hours, which is if I'm speaking about hallucinogens, I say exactly that. It's literally imagine your aperture is opening up. And therefore, more light, more color, more sound is coming in.”
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“That if you can be aware of it and process it, then somehow you might be able to describe it and then that could become a captivating story. And if you put yourself in those places often, it becomes a great medium, I guess. So I'm constantly throwing myself into the depths of the Amazon or Papua New Guinea or Africa or all kinds of weird places always like I'm kind of a bit of an explorer. And then the things you see and the things you experience, you describe. And I think that people are like planets as well. So you could say the same thing for a person, right? And all of their experiences that you could describe if you think about anybody, a musician, a writer, a data scientist. Know if that answers the question.”
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“Oh, well, there's so many. I wouldn't even know where to start. Werner's an amazing storyteller. F. Scott Fitzgerald, Murakami. I wouldn't even know where to start with storytellers. There's so many. But I think perhaps being curious is a great place to start and trying to be fearless is another place where you just want to inject the entire civilization into your neural networks as fast as possible. All of the time. So whenever you're conscious There's more than you could possibly input. I mean, even right now, while I'm speaking to you, I'm looking at a mountain. I'm looking at hundreds, probably thousands of trees. I know that there's a river about 100 yards in front of me in a valley, even though I can't see it. I've been on that river every day looking for rocks. There's just so, you know, the infinite detail in our existence is so vast.”
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“I just Well, I don't know. I mean, I definitely have come closest to death swimming once to a bird sanctuary. I was swimming to a bird sanctuary. And then I also in the Bocas in Panama, I was spearfishing for hamlets and we were on a beach with a few scientists and I got swept away. I was told not to swim. I should have listened. But I don't think I was on any hallucinogens either time. So I don't recall almost drowning because of hallucinogens, but I have definitely almost drowned.”
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“No idea I think I just never, I was never there. You know how people are manic depressive is something that one couldn't be? Say that I'm just manic”
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“Good question. I don't know what was the cause of this. I think, I mean, one could, it was a long time ago, so one could point to a surplus of hallucinogens. One could just say like, oh, well, I was having such life was so good. It was a dream. And I got so enmeshed into the dream that the dream sort of interconnected us all. And even at the time, I don't think it scared me because I was I thought it was real. And since then, I mean, sure, I've probably scared myself a few times, but not so bad. I think it's good to shake it up a little.”
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“I'm like, no, and literally I'm arguing with my best friends, and they were like, get out, let's go. And then for some reason, I wouldn't leave. Then another ambulance took me to a full lockdown. I'm writing all over the walls like my numeric codes. And finally, you know, it's like the whole thing in the movies with the glass and the little pill cups. And finally, I was like, okay, I'm ready to leave. And they were like, you cannot leave. I was like, no, no, I'm ready to go. They're like, no. And my parents who had not been on an airplane together in, I don't know how long got, flew from the West Coast and they got me out.”
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“The crack up, which was like a book from 1945 published on New Directions of Essays that Edmund Wilson, his editor put together. And they took my book, they put me in Central Park Prison. I'll never forget, they took my shoelaces. Then the ambulance came, took me to a hospital. My two best friends who are both no longer with us came to try to get us out, get me out. And I wouldn't leave the hospital because I was in this weird narrative that this is where I was supposed to be. And my friends are like,”
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“I don't even know if I knew what Belvedere Castle was, but I go to the castle in the park and I climbed it and I scaled the castle and the police came and got me down from the castle. And they were so nice. They were like, what are you doing up there? And for 15 minutes, the police were really nice. They were like trying to, and I was like, I'm looking for love. And they were trying to understand what love was. I'm like, I have, you know, and I was demanding that they opened up this castle because they were classrooms in there to let the kids use the frogs and the dinosaurs and the microscopes. And the police and I had a very nice 15-minute conversation where they were really trying to understand my motivations. And finally, after 15 minutes, they were like, you're under arrest. They threw me on the ground. I peed in my pants.”
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“The guy was like, are you crazy? I'm like, no, no, you don't understand. I'm having a party on this field. And I need this vehicle. And so jump on the back. And so he literally held the camera, jumped in the back onto the balls, and I started driving and I tried to drive the vehicle out into the outside of this area. And of course, he grabbed the keys and brought out the managers. And I tried to convince them they weren't having it. And so I laughed. And then the very next morning I went into Central Park under the same idea that everyone knew each other. And I never forgot because I was talking to everyone as if they were family. And I started talking to this guy and having a long conversation in the park. If my memory serves me right, he tried to kiss me. And that freaked me out. And I ran. So now I'm like running through the park and I go to Belvedere Castle.”
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“Walked onto the field and started kicking the golf balls and walked up to the guy driving the vehicle used to pick up the balls. And I said to him and I used the wrong words because I said, I need to reprimand your vehicle. You were trying to say requisite.”
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“Just read about it. There's this video where I accidentally filmed a psychotic break and I go on to the Forbes boat and I'm like, this is my boat. And the guy's like, what are you talking about? I'm like, this is my boat. And I kind of thought like, this is my world. And he was like, what are you talking about? Are you related to the Forbes family? And I was like, yes, directly. And he kind of He listened for a little while and he gave me a tour of the boat until he realized I was bananas and then he kicked me off the boat. And then I, this was like on Chelsea Piers. And then I walked over to the Chelsea Piers where golf range where they hit the balls, you know? And I literally just in the nighttime by myself filming.”
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“And I had this moment where I was writing all over my paintings. I thought everybody knew each other. And I went on to a boat. Have you seen the video, The Crack Up?”
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“Everyone knew each other. Everyone was almost playing a joke on each other that they didn't know each other. Almost this idea of the seven daughters of Eve, where we all came from the same mother, but now there's billions of us. And then I thought everyone was pretending not to know. So I would walk by a restaurant and I would wave at everybody thinking like, hey, everybody. And they would all look at me weird. It was really weird and I was adding up things. So like if I saw you, Tim, I'd be like, Tim, T equals 20. I is whatever it is. M is 13 and I'd add up your name and I thought there was this like numerical meaning. And I was filming all this because I had traded a drawing for a little handicam. I think that's what they were called. The cameras. So I was filming everything by myself, just whatever I was doing.”
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“So I was obsessed with F. Scott Fitzgerald and then, of course, Zelda Fitzgerald. And yeah, and so for some reason, I was having what one could call a mild psychotic break. And I had this moment where I thought that.”
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“I don't know, multiple dozens. Yeah. I don't know, maybe 50, 100. Who knows? I mean, some of that stuff will like appear nowadays or someone will call me out of the boom, be like, I have this painting from 95. And I'm like, can you fucking burn it?”
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“Yeah, yeah, yeah, because it's like a plague. It's like a disease art. You know, if I could get, you know, really one person, if you put something in a room and 50 people don't like it, but the 51st person loves it and wants one and they get it and then they do the same thing and the next 50 people don't like it, but one person sees it and they get one over a lot of time that can really, you know, get you going. And that's what I would do. I would just hustle. I was wild. I would be doing fucking, what do you call them? Like cartwheels and somersaults through the bar and I had like long hair and beards and beads and like I would, you know what I mean? I was out there. I was meeting people who were also teaching me like that's where I got my education really was from the people I was meeting.”
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“Well, in my mind coming to New York, I thought, oh, of course it would be so easy. Once I got to New York, that wasn't the case. And talk about hustle. I mean, I'd be like, buy this painting for me $2,000, $2,000. No, no, no, buy the painting, thousand dollars, thousand dollars. Fuck, 500 bucks, buy that painting. I get to eat some food. Come on, you know, I was crazy. And then I'd be like, if someone didn't want the painting, I'd be like, just take it. Just take it because I thought to myself, well, if they take it and they hang it on their wall and 20 people see it and 19 of them can't stand it. But one person likes it and asks about it. Maybe then maybe, you know, it would become a plague.”
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“Talked my way into these bars and places at the time it was a place called the Bowery Bar and a place called Spy. And I don't know. I was very lucky because I met all these amazing people right off the boat, so to speak. A lot of them are still in my life today. Yeah, I don't know how that happened. I just met people right away.”
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“I went there without really knowing anyone or anything and found a, you know, and my mom was very generous and she said, look, I'll help you with putting like a very cheap roof over your head. And then you need to figure it out. So I went there and found like, I basically rented through, I think it was like Craigslist or the village voice. I found a room. It was more like a closet from some dude in Soho. And I lived in this little tiny room and he was very generous and gave me another room to make payings in. And again, I was young and wild. And I was just making these crazy abbex. I didn't even know what Abex abstract expressionism probably was at the time. But looking back, I was making these weird abs paintings and renting this little closet room from the sky and out every night like a wild man. And somehow...”
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“Well, I think I was feeding, if you will, these enormous delusions of grandeur where I'm like, everything is possible. Do you know what I mean? Like I could do anything. And I'm in a small town in Colorado, and I'm obsessed now with, you know, I'm like, I'm going to make art and I'm going to, that's what's going to be my medium is making things out of nothing. And so I basically reduced the idea that the only way to do that was to go to New York City. That's where the artists were. It felt like. That's where people were because I was in a small town and the kids were like drinking beer on the mountainside, talking about hockey. And I was like, I need to get the fuck out of here.”
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“Yeah, and I think I was really obsessed with clean energy in like the 60s, even though we were in the 90s. I was, you know, getting obsessed with Nicola Tesla and I was getting obsessed with this idea of that we could make clean and free energy. And therefore, I felt like the art was almost the bonfire, you know, which you could get people around. And if you could get everybody around a fire, then you could start to build these more complex systems, which could be scaling clean energy or various new forms of political systems.”
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“So I guess I was always doing that. But by the time I was 17 or so, I was like, this is what I'm going to do. I'm going to make art. And I didn't really know about art history yet. I mean, I might have known who Andy Warhol is or Picasso or Matisse, but I really knew nothing. But art felt like the greatest freedom because it felt like something you could, it was completely free. You could invent whatever and you were never limited to the thing you invented because you could go and invent something else. And then after I met the physicist, I became obsessed with the sciences because I was like, holy shit, this whole world is a hallucination. Everything's been invented. Therefore, we can just build some crazy utopic vision of what we think it should look like on this planet. And so the art became almost like the voice and the science became like the tactic or something. I don't know.”
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“Well, I mean, I always made weird shit, but I never really thought about it as anything. You know, I would make little drawings or I'd make things out of rocks and sticks and things I found in the forest, which actually I've been doing all week this week. So nothing's really changed in a long time”
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“It was a great movie and kind of got messed up the second half because it got sort of obsessed with premordial regression opposed to progression. But William Hurt did a great job in that picture. And that was, I guess, loosely based on John Lilly's life. And John knew the scientists that I was working with. And I'm having these crazy out-of-body experiences where I'm leaving my body In this sort of pure consciousness state, and I'm becoming one cell in my arm and then I'm one star and then I'm fractalized into billions of little pieces recombobulating. And then the more I would do it, I could navigate through what I guess I perceived to be consciousness. I had all these crazy visions, which I felt like kind of is what sent me New”
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“on a saline solution bed with a quartz crystal on my chest listening to wails. And he was like, Look, you're going to think I killed you. You're going to think you're dead. You're going to think I'm a pathological murderer and that I've killed you. Don't you worry it'll pass. And he would inject me with ketamine. I didn't know straight up.”
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“Turn me on to cultural lighthouses like Pablo Naruta or Dostoevsky or Tesla, all these different things and reading and music and kind of just teaching me and I was obsessed. So I asked him if I could study with him and he kind of tried to discourage me not to because he said that that would be dangerous because the government was watching him because he was trying to make free energy. So he was really, really out there and also really, really brilliant. And that made me really, really interested to learn from him. He finally accepted me to learn from him. And we would have just conversations and do mushrooms and LSD together and just have these long conversations. And then he basically he was like putting me into a closet.”
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“Very unusual circumstances. I return from Thailand to Colorado. And this woman that I was very fond of and dated. Introduced me Or she started telling me about this physicist and that he was brilliant and that he was working on environmental sciences and the damage from the Gulf War and was trying to make free energy like Nicola Tesla. And of course, I didn't know who Nicola Tesla was at the time. So I'm now learning who that is and that he worked with Buckminster Fuller and I didn't know who that was and started learning about Bucky Fuller. And so again, getting introduced to all this new stuff. And I told her I wanted to meet him. And I met him. And, you know, he was maybe the first adult.”
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“Yeah, my mom was always very supportive. She was very not around, I think, in my youth, but also very supportive of whatever it may be, you know. I think everyone got a little bit more nervous when I kind of dropped out of high school. And then when I turned 18 and got pretty wild. And then, of course, I think my father was completely horrified and my mother was just praying I would get through it.”
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“Both my parents have a bit of that, and I've had it, I guess, I mean, and, you know, Ma left my P when I was five and took me to tell you ride, Colorado, and she's a single mom at that point, always on the road working and hustling herself. So I kind of raised myself since I was five. It feels like. And so there was a lot of just having to figure it out, whatever it may be, I think.”
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“I don't know where it comes from. I think perhaps it was always there. I have no idea. I guess it's in my DNA. I don't know.”
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“Paradise. I'll never leave. Why would I ever go back to what I knew before? I'm just going to live on this island. And then that kind of at some point scared me because I was like, whoa, I'm so detached from what I once knew. And then I went back to Colorado and met that crazy physicist.”
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“Amount of hallucinogens of A at 18, which is maybe good because a lot of these kids don't know what they're doing and they're 12. So it was cool. And then I just decided to get out of Colorado, kind of picked a map and went to New Zealand and just started hitchhiking and through Australia. Hitchhiking as well. And I hadn't been very cultured as a kid. And so I was like a late bloomer and at 18, here I am on LSD for the first time listening to Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd and having my own sort of woodstock in my mind as I'm hitchhiking through these countries. And it was pretty crazy and getting exposed to all this weird stuff through people I met on the road. And then I ended up in Thailand on an island on lots of mushrooms. They'd put them in your omelets. And I was like...”
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“Well, I actually don't remember. I was in Colorado. I dropped out of high school. For some reason, couldn't connect to the system of education. And I just want it out. So I tried to persevere and then I left. And I turned 18. And I had a bet with my ma where if I didn't do any drugs or alcohol or smoke cigarettes or anything until I was 18, I would win this bet. She was going to give me a car, basically. But when I was 16, I hustled swatch watches actually, and I made some money on my own and bought my own car. So when I turned 18, I said, look, I won the bet, but I already have a car that I paid for with my own money. So you're going to have to give me some cash, which I then spent on drugs, sex, and rock and roll and just went bananas and started doing coke.”
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