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  1. “I hope not. If there's a way adoption and foster carer areas. So I made a lot of great friendships and relationships. And that's one of the reasons I'm a better person, even though I lost the race. You get to go places as a candidate that nobody gets to go. I would not have been in these recovery communities talking to people dealing with addiction in the jails, out on the port with the pilot captains and out with the oystermen on Tangier Island or in the coal mines. It's transformative in a lot of ways and eye-opening. And I learned to see things from the perspective of different people. And it changed my mind on a lot of things. So I'd like to keep that going somehow, but without having to be a candidate.”

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  2. “But, you know, I've got an opportunity here to really think about what is it I want to do and where do I want to try to make a difference for the country I love and the Commonwealth I love. And a lot of the relationships I've made in the course of the past year, I want to maintain and continue, especially in the recovery community, dealing with addiction and recovery. In addressing the achievement gap between minority students and white students that is way too pronounced. So you're done with.”

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  3. “Well, I'm making up for lost time with my children and enjoying that and with Kathy. Like I said, we met on a softball field. We've been married 30 years. She was an incredible surrogate on the campaign trail, and we are truly blessed. And I'm blessed. And I'd like to find a way where whatever talents I have and skills that I have in addition to supporting my family maybe can help in the not-for-profit sector and help. You know, I'd like to help people help me, but I don't want to do politics per se, but I'll help people who help me. We've got state senate races in Virginia in 19. We've got some congressional seats up this year that are going to be tough for us, and I want to help some folks.”

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  4. “He taps right into it. Yes, and And the media, as much as they kind of hate it, but the ratings are good and the clicks are good. And there's a business aspect to it as well. And it is a concern to me. And that's a long answer of saying if having run a lot of campaigns myself now to statewide races as a candidate. The atmosphere is definitely different in 17 than it was in 14. There's no two ways about it. It is a much more poisonous atmosphere. And I don't know if there's causality or correlation. I'll leave that for others to determine. But I could not. Honestly say to someone that I like and think is a halfway decent human being, yeah, you ought to run for office.”

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  5. “To the earlier conversation, I think you see some of that in the debate around Roy Moore and whether or not he wins or loses in Alabama. That will be a significant factor in the mentality there because people feel like they are being Marginalized, demonized for having concerns by an elite that doesn't understand their concerns. And that's a long answer.”

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  6. “That I know and campaigned with, and I've, you know, one of the, and by the way, the campaign was a great experience, so don't get me wrong, I'm a better person for having done it. I'm a better person for having gone into the coal mines and spent the time with the miners. I'm a better person for having campaigned in public housing communities. I'm a better person for having gone to the eastern shore and spent the time with the watermen. But I can tell you that there are a lot of people who feel like they're not just being disagreed with, but they are being disdained and that their legitimate concerns about certain things are Stifled and diminished and marginalized in a way that frustrates them.”

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  7. “There's no room for nuance. There's no room for nuance. And so everything gets cast And you got to pick a side and the way that people characterize you in the shorthand to get the clicks and that kind of thing, what drives clicks. I mean, you're from the news business originally and you know was always the case that the product was not the paper. It was you and the advertisers were selling you. Now we're selling clicks and it has a very debilitating and I think cynical and corrosive effect on the ability to have an actual conversation about serious issues. And a lot of times the effect is just to try to shut down the conversation. And I think that's one of the things that I can tell you right now having run that is one of the things that energizes that Trump electorate.”

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  8. “Yeah, I just think that, and look, this gets to a broader discussion too, the way the media world is. There's no, you know, there are no, that's not fair to say there are no, because the nature of the way the race was covered in Northern Virginia versus the rest of the Commonwealth is very, very different. And the way the national media environment and the, you know, they come in and they kind of pick up these issues in a state or in even locality and nationalize them in a way where they don't have the context and they don't have the proper understanding. People outside Virginia would not understand that the statutes that people actually care about in Virginia are the ones that are over 100 years old generally in their town square or at their county courthouse, not Robert E. Lee in Richmond. That's not the one, or certainly not in Charlottesville.”

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  9. “On statues, you know, I never talked about defending heritage because that's not how I see the issue or view it. And I see the flag, the Confederate flag, a whole different way than these statues. And by the way, so to most Virginians in our city squares and at the county courthouses. But when the president tweeted about it himself, he tweeted about heritage, and that injected it into the discussion in a way I would not and never did. Because to me, it's about, you know, are you going to spend the money on bringing down these statues or put them in historical context? That's a better conversation to have around the Commonwealth and I think would actually be a healthy conversation to have, the conversation about historical context would probably be good for us. But that tweet contributed to the again, it polarized it even more in an issue that is a 60-30 issue, even in the Washington Post.”

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  10. “Well, a couple things. Explosive issues. Yeah. One is those issues have been, they reflect a more polarized environment. I think there's no doubt about that. And does the president contribute to a polarized environment, I think probably. The other thing is that My bigger concern, David, is it makes it harder to have a discussion about an issue like sanctuary cities. And there is the Fox effect to a certain extent. So Fox News talks about sanctuary cities and it gets magnified there. There's almost this reaction then to marginalize it elsewhere. And it's a legitimate concern in my view. I think we should cooperate with federal authorities, and I'm pro-immigration and the son of an immigrant, but I think we should enforce the laws. But it does make it harder to have a conversation about those issues. I would say even on...”

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  11. “Opposed to the tax cuts and frankly even the criminal justice reform innovative proposals I put forward in that regard, that's where I'd rather the race have been about. But those weren't what was indicating we're going to move numbers and help win.”

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  12. “But at the same time, I don't think we should have sanctuary cities. That's my position. I don't believe that it's the right use of local taxpayer dollars to spend the money to take down the Civil War statutes all across the Commonwealth. And by the way, there's hundreds of them. It's not just the ones in Richmond, but there's hundreds of them. And I would rather they be put in historic context and that we erect new statues where we've been on the right side of history. Doug Wilder is the first African-American governor elected in the history of the country. We should have a statute of Doug Wilder in Richmond. We should dread Scott and Booker T. Washington, Virginia's. We should have statues to them. That's what I feel like, but I don't think that we should have the cities spend the money to take down the statutes. That's what I feel. And on restoration of rights, I know we can be compassionate, but at the same time discretionary. Now, are those the issues that I would have chosen to run on?”

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  13. “I did not take positions that I do not believe in. So on immigration. I think there's a big difference between sanctuary cities and the dreamers. I'm not for deporting the dreamers and I made that clear. And I know we can be a welcoming Commonwealth in a welcoming country and I don't think that these people should be punished for decisions made by their parents. Like I said, my father was bought here when he was eight years old. He didn't make that decision. Of course.”

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  14. “First time gubernatorial election voters because of the off-off election year who voted in a presidential campaign, 250,000 Democrats, only 65,000 Republicans. That to me is a telling number.”

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  15. “If you look at the exit data by two to one, those who cast a vote based on their perception of the president or were sending a message, it was two to one that those who were anti President Trump came out to vote. So if the exit data is accurate, that's a factor. I would say too, if you look at, you know, I did pretty well in certain areas where certainly in turning out my turnout relative to the president, I also increased my share of the black vote between the, you mentioned the Senate race and the gubernatorial race from 10% to 12%, which was a focus of my campaign. I wish I'd gotten more, but the turnout was also high amongst African Americans, 20% turnout, which is high for a gubernatorial race, a little bit high, not too high. But the turnout in the suburbs and these 250,000...”

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  16. “When you always look for in a campaign is to get your base, but also to appeal to the swing voters and the data that we had said that the concern about public safety in the northern Virginia suburbs, look, the fact is, economically Virginia's got challenges. You may have just seen the data came out yesterday. We had four straight years now where more people moved out of Virginia than into Virginia. That's not the case in Northern Virginia. And it doesn't feel that way here. And so the economy is not a big issue in Northern Virginia in the way it is in southwest Virginia or Southside or the northern neck or even Hampton Roads. The issue that looked like it was going to move voters in the suburbs of Northern Virginia was public safety and a growing concern over that. And that's where we put the focus. Now, clearly it didn't work. Did it create a backlash? I don't think so.”

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  17. “Well, I would look at the drop off with married women. As you know, a Republican candidate should carry married women at about the same percentage as you carry men as a whole. I think there was about a nine-point differential. That's something that is going to be a challenge if that remains in effect. And the impact down ballot, obviously. I mean, Northern Virginia, it's like a neutron bomb went off and left all the buildings standing, but all the Republican delegates got wiped out. Yes. And that's true in the Richmond suburbs as well. And so, you know, again, I think there are a lot of factors. I would say this to your point about the appeal of the ads and who I was targeting, the ads were not”

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  18. “Well, I've seen data in that regard, and I think that was a big factor. And again, I think this is something that folks are going to be sifting through. I take responsibility in 2018.”

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  19. “100,000 more of them call off. And look, we got 65,000 new first time voters for a gubernatorial race, which is pretty big. He got 250,000 first-time. And so you can attribute that to those ads. I suspect there are other factors that come into play. Don't get me wrong. I was a candidate. I take responsibility for the loss. There's a lot of factors, I think, let me ask you a question. How much of that?”

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  20. “I also, you know, the fact is turnout had been normal gubernatorial election turnout. I got more votes for governor than any candidate in the history of the Commonwealth of Virginia ever, except for Ralph Northampton. And there was an explosion. He got”

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  21. “Suburban Republic women who probably don't like pedophiles with guns and street gangs Well, I don't know if that, I'll leave that for others to determine Loudon County.”

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  22. “Yeah, they're all, these are all issues based on policies and votes cast by my opponent and policy positions taken. But the ads about his missing important votes or missing important meetings as Lieutenant Governor, the ads about my being for tax cuts and him being against them, the ads about my wanting to close the education gap and his wanting to change the nature of testing as a response to that gap. None of those fit the narrative of the Trump narrative, which is what the media is obsessed with right now. And so if it doesn't fit a narrative of, to your point about Trump-like kind of issues, they don't get written about. I unveil 21 specific detailed policy proposals in the course of my campaign, including some very innovative criminal justice reforms.”

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  23. “I ran more well in the last few weeks of the campaign, I ran more ads on education than on statues and closing the education gap. And so, you know, and yes, the sanctuary city is MS-13, I'm pretty sure, weren't running at the end of the campaign. It was restoration of rights. And the pedophile.”

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  24. “The statues MS-13 and Restoration of Rights. It's important for folks to know, and this is one of the things that happens with media coverage and a narrative gets set. But the fact is I ran more ads about then Lieutenant Governor Northam missing important meetings of various panels and commissions on which he served as Lieutenant Governor and saying that he shouldn't get promoted if he missed his attendance was so bad at these meetings. I ran more ads about that than I ran about MS-13 and Sanctuary Cities combined. I ran more ads on economic opportunity. My tax cut proposal upward mobility than on restoration of my business. How about in the last campaign?”

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  25. “Governor, but that was a policy difference. And yes, it was an evocative ad to illustrate one of the risks of that policy. But that's, to your point, the nature of campaigns. If I could make one other point, David, because you touched on three areas.”

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  26. “No, no, he's not, but he is for a process that allows for sloppiness and recklessness to occur. And there were many instances we chose one. You pick one for an ad and it exemplifies the risk and the problem of the blanket automatic restoration of rights that he supports as opposed to a more discretionary approach for certain kinds of felons. Non-violent felons, frankly, I would support automatic restoration for them. But do you draw a line somewhere and say if someone is a rapist, if someone has committed a violent crime with a gun, do you have a review of their application before there's an approval of putting them on a path to have their gun rights restored? And as I said, I believe, and I know him to be a good man, Ralph Northam, and I hope he's an effective.”

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  27. “Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I would too. But is there a line you draw where you would have a review? Because what Governor McAuliffe implemented and what then Lieutenant Governor Northam supported and will continue as governor is an automatic blanket restoration of rights regardless of circumstance. And my point is, are there circumstances where there should be a review before you put someone on a path to getting their gun rights restored? Should you treat a murderer the same as someone who got arrested for cocaine possession? Should you treat a convicted child molester in the review process or should you have a review process for that or someone who committed domestic violence with a weapon the same as someone who stole an iPhone? And I think there should be a line somewhere where there's a review. And that was the point. And that is a policy difference.”

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  28. “And that's the right that is of most concern. Right. And so this person was a convicted pedophile, as he noted, and then had his rights restored after having been arrested again for having one of the largest collections of child pornography in the history of the Commonwealth of Virginia. And my point is and remains, I'm for generous restoration of rights. I don't believe we should punish someone time and time again for a crime they committed once, and if they have paid their debt to society and are living peaceably among us and productive members, we want to welcome them back into society. And I had said that I would have a probably the case.”

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  29. “MS13 Well, and if that's the case, and I tried to make it clear in the first debate when Ralph said when Governor Leke Northam said, we don't have sanctuary cities, I said, that's right. And we won't if I'm governor because I would sign that bill. You celebrated the veto of that bill. I wasn't trying to pretend like that that was the case. But to add, but the idea.”

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  30. “Because I still to this day believe it's a legitimate issue that when someone casts a vote on the floor of the state senate, they should be held accountable for that vote. I'm not saying that that vote caused a surgeon. I'm saying allowing for that policy would make it harder for us to crack down on MS-13. I know.”

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  31. “Governor Lech Northam, who, by the way, let me say again, we're having this conversation, and I appreciate this conversation. I'm rooting for him, and I hope he's a good governor for us. I think he's a good man, and I said that throughout the campaign. But he cast this vote. And to my mind, I would have voted for that ban. And when I asked him if there were a bill that were passed after a city or county declared itself sanctuary, would he sign it in that instance? I asked him point blank in the third debate. We got to ask each other two different questions. And he wouldn't even say that he would sign it after the fact. Now, a week out from the election in an interview with the media, he said he would sign that bill should it come to his desk. He reversed himself on his position on the issue.”

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  32. “You're saying it's a tenuous link. Yes. All right. That's fine. We can have that debate and we can have that argument. We did. Now, when I asked Ralph Northam, though,”

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  33. “Well, it's not meant to inflame people. And in fact, one of the things we saw was the people I was trying to get to were suburban women who had a legitimate concern about public safety. And MS-13 is a menace in Northern Virginia. Just read the news coverage. And in fact, there was a fact check, David, on one of my statements. I said there were 2,000 MS-13 gang members in Northern Virginia or in Fairfax County. And the post did a fact check. They said there was 1,400. There's 2,000 gang members, 1,400 of them are MS-13. Well, that's more MS-13 gang members than Fairfax police officers.”

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  34. “I didn't say that they have anything to do with sanctuary cities, but we should be able to deport them if they are arrested, was the point, and that his policy would not make us safer, would make it harder for us to crack down on MSI.”

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  35. “My opponent cast a vote on the floor of the Senate, a deciding vote, against a ban. And that bill would have allowed cities or counties to not cooperate with federal immigration authorities to deport someone here illegally who commits a violent crime largely is here illegally, and they terrorize the immigrant community themselves. And so my point is that will not make us safer when someone who is here, and by the way, from November to November for the year prior to the election, there have been eight MS thirteen related gang murders in Northern Virginia alone.”

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  36. “The ad was about a vote that was cast on the floor of our state senate. In the same way, by the way, the statues became an issue when my opponent took a position for taking them all down. That's why it became an issue. Most Virginians do not agree with that. By the way, in the Washington Post poll, 44% of African Americans in Virginia said they support taking the statues down. 40% of African Americans favor keeping them.”

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  37. “There's a lot of misperception people don't understand because they saw the coverage from Charlottesville and people outside Virginia believe that the statues were all of Robert E. Lee or Stonewall Jackson or Jefferson Davis. They're not. The statues that people really care most about all around Virginia and city squares and county courthouses are to an anonymous soldier. commemorate the soldiers who served and fought and died in the Civil War from that county or that city and they're anonymous. There's one in Old Town on Prince Street and Washington. And they're 100 years old And their landmarks and people don't support taking them down. And in fact, in the exit survey and an electorate, that was a plus 11 Democratic electorate, 60% said they thought that the statute should remain up versus...”

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  38. “Let's talk about the statues for a second. It's an important issue, and there's so many misperceptions about it. So the reason it became an issue after Charlottesville is because... My opponent, Governor Like Northam, came out and said, all the statues should come down. And he and I both agreed that it should be a local decision that the localities should decide, but my view was that they should not all come down, that we should add historical context to them. By the way, that's an opinion that's shared by the current governor, Terry McCauliff and former Governor Doug Wilder. So rather than take them all down, add historical context. I wouldn't if I were a city council or county board of supervisors spend the money to take them down because it's an expensive proposition. And on top of that,”

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  39. “I carried him in 17, but 50-48 narrow margin. But we got, we turned out our vote. And so I was able to unify the party and get by not constantly talking about, and I just had made a determination, I wanted to talk about my policies. About Virginia and not get sucked into the national debate as best as I could avoid it. It's not easy.”

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  40. “And I was able to bring them all together. You know, if you look at the exit surveys, the fact is I got, I think, 95% of self-identified Republicans, which is what you get when you've got a unified party. Nobody gets 100% even of their own party. I think Lieutenant Governor now governor like Northam was right around the same with Democrats.”

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  41. “That was the conventional wisdom. Now I was going to run regardless, but looking at all the polling and everything, like we just said, you know, turned out to be wrong, that was my guess, was that she was likely to win based on what I was seeing. So I knew on the day after the election, the presidential election, that the road just became a lot harder given the historic pattern in Virginia.”

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  42. “As you know, the ten of the last gubernatorial elections in the year following the presidential election have gone to the party out of power, out of the White House. And the exception of the president Obama was the exception. And it was largely an outlier, again, because of an external factor, which was the government shutdown, which took place for the first 16 days of October, which I think had a big impact in terms of that outcome where it may have gone consistent with the norm. So I knew it was going to be a challenge the day after election.”

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  43. “And Northern Virginia, where a third of the population. And so we had concluded that we didn't want to nationalize the race. I wanted the race to be about Virginia. And that's, by the way, the norm in our Virginia governor's contest. When you have the first, and New Jersey has a race too, but there wasn't much of a race.”

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  44. “That's correct. And, you know, it was a point of discussion. The president did not ask the campaign. He did not ask to come in. I know everybody thought about it. Remember, the president didn't carry Virginia. Right. And highly.”

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  45. “If you're not standing up for President Trump, for his supporters, They see you as not for him. And it's not that I was not for him. It's just that, and I'm not against him. I wanted to be for Virginia, and I wanted to keep the focus on Virginia. That's such a hard rate.”

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  46. “Well, the fact is, you know, I would have every day in the course of my campaign, you know, three Republicans would say to me, you've got to stand up to President Trump. And every day three Republicans would say, you've got to stand up for President Trump. And my mentality was, I'm not running to be for or against President Trump. I'm running to be for the people of Virginia to be our next governor. And I really wanted to keep the focus on that. Almost impossible, though, isn't it? Well, to your point.”

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  47. “When he became the nominee, I did. And I'm a former R&C chairman and said I would support our nominee. And I did. And in fact, I introduced Vice President Pence, then Governor Pence at a couple of rallies in Virginia.”

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  48. “Right Exactly. Exactly. And a lot more of the people who had come out to vote in the Republican primary in Virginia for President Trump in the primary came out to vote again the next year in the gubernatorial contest, which we were not anticipating them coming back. And they did. And that resulted in a much closer race because my opponent was running on Trump. I was running on my own set of issues that I thought were more relevant, frankly, to Virginia in terms of the policies that we needed.”

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  49. “Really hard to do. And I chose not to attack him or to do any negative against him. And also, frankly, not to spend that much money to shepherd my resources and to husband my campaign dollars for the general, not because I was just taking it for granted. We had data that showed that we were in better shape than we were, but again, that's one of the things the data is very unreliable these days. And it's hard to model the electorate in an off-off year primary.”

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  50. “Well, a couple things. One, you know, in fourteen I was out spent by over $10 million because Republicans didn't think I had any chance to win. And 17 in the governor's race, I'd spent $10 million because Democrats thought I could. And I was supposed to lose the Senate race by nine points, and it was a neck-and-neck race. I was supposed to be in a neck and neck race in the governor's contest and lost by nine points. You know, it's just so unpredictable. And it was unpredictable in terms of the primary, you know, the closeness of it. I had made a conscious decision for it to be a closer contest than I didn't think it was going to be that close. But I did not, you know, kind of go at my, and I had two opponents, and that contributed to it as well because the third opponent...”

    2017-12-11 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 200 - Ed Gillespie · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source