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  1. “Yeah, and you know, maybe it's not a weakness. I think a lot of times we sometimes question how we think about a thing because everyone else around you thinks about a thing in a different way and you realize you're a minority. That doesn't mean you're wrong, but it's certainly easy to feel that way. So I wrestled with that a lot. Should I be more attached to the outcome? Should I be less attached to the outcome? Am I just right? But I don't feel I mean, I'm not angry at the guy. I can laugh and joke with him beforehand, hang out with him afterwards. It's just a fight. It's just a fight. It's not the end of the world. We're not like reverting each other's families apart. I don't even, I mean, I'm sure I could figure it out, but I don't even know how to trash talk, man. I just go, oh, that's nice. None can save you when we actually start fighting. To me, you know, you enjoy the time of the ring. It's very enjoyable.”

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  2. “You want to care enough to not care if that makes sense. You need to care about the alchemy enough that you want a good outcome, but you also are more concerned with a process. Like I take the work very seriously. Clearly, I couldn't have gone and done the things amateur professional, but I did not take the work seriously. At the same time, in the ring, I'm very, very detached.”

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  3. “I have learned something really interesting about myself. I don't. I am completely detached. That may be all more harmful than helpful. I'm like the other end of the spectrum in that regard. On the other, on the one end, I think you have the caricature that most people think of, which is this emotionally reckless boxer that's full of anger and just wants to bring pain. Like Mike Tyson, that interview, they ask him, like, why are you so angry in a fight? Mike goes, it's a fight. What's the matter? That's like one extreme. I'm pretty sure I'm on the other extreme, and that's not good either. Ideally, you want some type of emotion. You don't want to be...”

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  4. “Going away from putting the work in, going away from being vulnerable and opening yourself up and taking risks. So no matter what, there's going to be an uncomfortable process. And I think that's just part of the rate of change that is life. Always thinking things in terms of calculus for some weird reason. The rate of change of life, if you're going up, you're going to have effort and have an issue. And if you're going down, you're going to have an issue. It's just what issue do you decide? Do you want the issue of, oh man, I got to put these late nights in and do this work? I got to go work out of the gym or I got to argue with this person to make sure that we have a good understanding and reach a compromise about the situation. Or do I want to have the pain of being an incel on a fat bastard that just sits around the basement all day and does nothing and no one really likes? Get the picky poison.”

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  5. “Right. So I'm pretty sure when I wrote that, the first experience, because I always think like this, I think that everything can be like combined and explained, and you can take one aud in and use it to explain other ideas. I'm pretty sure I was actually thinking about romantic endeavors when I wrote that. And I was like, okay, it's going to be hard if you're with somebody, but it's going to be equally hard if you like to always run our way. And then I was like, oh man, but that's like the same in fitness. Like, either you're going to suffer because you're unattractive and you have horrible health, are you going to suffer while you're working out that painful running? So what's the difference? Is it all suffering? The difference is one kind of suffering is moving towards something you want, a good body, a good partner. The other kind of suffering or pain is going away from things.”

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  6. “It's just a hobby. It's fun. People worry about getting punched in the face. People worry about getting, but then you realize just pain. Pain. Pain is the same as pleasure. It's just a feeling. It's going to go away. But as long as you avoid that, you know, you can't have fun. You can't get the benefits of life. It's a good time. I wish every man would go at least have box and amateur event. He ain't got to go pro, but it's very easy to become an amateur boxer.”

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  7. “I don't know how the fighters achieved this, but I know they achieved something similar. They might not use my wording, but I think the process and the benefit is the same. By default, I don't worry about anything else going on but the guy in front of me. But I'm not even really worried about him because the worst thing he can do, he can't kill me. And even if he could, then life would be over. What is there to worry about? You go have fun and you perform and you get it done. Don't you realize that the worst thing you could lose? That's the worst thing that happened. Randy Katore said this to me. Once again, you live in LA, man. You meet all these people. Came to the gym one day and he was giving us a little speech about something. And he said something once again that will always stick much like the four-year thing. This will always stick. He said if the worst thing that happens to you in your life is you lose a fight, then your life is going pretty great. And that was when I was an amateur and it stuck with me ever since this.”

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  8. “No one thinks about it except maybe the people at the moment. Like, no one cares anymore. I don't care anymore, right? I can like say, hey, I got stopped. I got knocked down on TV and it doesn't bother me because it's an event that's gone and I've learned from it and I've taken the best parts of it to make myself better. Most people get too attached, too fixated on a single event so they cannot be confident. So when I entered a ring, I'm not thinking about a bunch of other things going on. My mind by default.”

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  9. “There's nothing for me to worry about. Is the first thing that detachment is the first thing, and I think that's the most powerful thing for me about fighting is that I don't care if I get hurt. I know I'm going to experience pain, right? So what has left me to worry about? I just got over being now the worst thing that could possibly happen has happened. So I've dealt with that. I've been embarrassed on national television, right? You going through all these things and you realize the world does not stop. No one cares. It really doesn't matter. And then you get the confidence to really act. As long as you think people care what you do, as long as you think that somehow your little existence is going to make a big ripple in a long grand scheme of things, you're going to be terrified to act. But once you understand, once you realize that it's freedom. It's free. Once you see that no one cares.”

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  10. “Right, okay. So you just reminded me of a really interesting thing that happened in LA when I lived out there. I got evaluated by sports psychologist. We all got evaluated by sports psychologists out there. And he said, as you get closer to the event, you get more confident and then you're more confident, more relaxed is the event occurs. That second part, I think, is typical of most athletes. Once you get in there, once you get hit the first time, then you know you're good. That part before how I get more and more relaxed or how my confidence rises and grows. I don't think that my confidence is growing so much as I'm accepting the inevitable. I've already sounded on a dotted line. The fight's already going to go down. And in my mind, the outcome is actually already predetermined. No one knows what it is, but it's already set in stone.”

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  11. “But you want to control it. Most people don't have emotional control when you have emotional control, then you can look at a thing and go, man, for example, I'm an early rager, right? People like, how you get up so early, man? Girls like, why are you always upset early? I'm like, because I need to get up early. Like, how I feel about it never enters. It's just a thing that needs to be done. Always say, if a thing is important to your success, it doesn't matter how you feel about it. It just needs to be done. And that's how I view self-discipline. You can't consider your feelings because your feelings always your feelings are like they're always going to find the easiest way for you to do a thing. They don't want you to work hard. Hard work sucks. But if you want the good things and the cool things in life, if you even want to be having an average life, you got to go do hard things that you don't want to do. And eventually you just stop thinking about it and then you learn to see the world as a matter of what must be done.”

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  12. “Self discipline is highly important, right? You can't, if you wait till you feel like doing something, you'll never do it. And furthermore, if you give in to your feelings about a thing, you will give up on many things because anything worth having requires hard work and hard work by definition is not pleasant. I don't care what anyone says to you. Being in shape is great. Running is not great. I used to tell my friend all the time, you're never going to like running. Stop looking for it to become enjoyable. Just go do the damn running and look at the results. With that said, my whole approach to self-discipline is to eliminate the emotional aspect of you can feel a thing. No one's saying get rid of your emotions. Not only is that not impossible. If it were possible, your life just becomes a series of indistinguishable moments. You need a moment.”

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  13. “I'm gonna take out the best ones, and then I'm gonna put together the ones in certain categories, which ultimately became the chapters of the book. And then I'm going to write an essay explaining each one, and then we're appropriate. I'm going to give an actionable step or an actionable piece of advice for a person to be able to implement this idea in their life. So it all started with that suggestion. And I'm pretty sure I got that suggestion. Yeah, about 20 months ago, maybe a little less. And it's just been a constant thing in the making. And then when it was coming together, I was like, yeah, I really like this.”

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  14. “So the book came about. It took me a little longer to write it than I thought it would. I thought I was gonna have it done in like six months. It ended up being a year because life, right? Like the things we were just talking about, all that coming together. And then I'm trying to write the book. I didn't even think about that. I'm blogging. But one day the Twitter user, who I'm great, great friends that I'm sure will meet in person one day, but we talk a lot. He goes, yo, you know, your Twitter feed is really great, man. You ever think about putting it together and selling a book of tweets? I was like, you know what? I had never thought of that. That's a great idea. And I was like, but there's no way I'm going to feel good about just putting out a bunch of tweets. So I went through, I called my whole list. I downloaded the XHML file. And I sat there and I was like, okay.”

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  15. “Game, what have you done for four years, and that's always stuck with me, and has driven everything. I'm like, you're right, you got to put Tom in to get farther and get better. Sometimes you just got to hear what that tough love aspect. Like, before that point, I knew the idea intellectually. Now I know it viscerally. Like, now I will never forget. You got to put Tom in and how you put that Tom in and where you put it in that matter. But the longer you wait, the more work it will take, you know.”

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  16. “Here's when I knew it was getting bad when I was doing all that, when I was juggling a lot of, I was just doing dishes. You know, we got a nice arrangement. She does all the cooking. I do all the cleaning. And unless I'm injured, like, I cut my finger real bad, like a month ago. She was like, man, I gotta do dishes now. But other than that, one day, man, I was doing dishes. She says something to me and I just, I snapped at her. And I don't snap. I don't yell. That's not my thing. I'm a very calm person. You can know me your entire life and count on one hand the times you'll hear me raise my voice out of the person but i did that and i was like okay this is getting out of hand because all i want to do is do my stuff do things go to sleep i didn't want to deal with her cordially so let alone like where she's like i'm gonna need some help with something but uh but you know but do i think what what i do it all over again willingly no but is it was necessary because once”

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  17. “I can do that. That makes sense for me. Then I have to kick in the secondary support system of my emotions and my life and go, you know what? That's just not going to be a good look. Now I have somebody in my ear I trust because when you grow up the way I grew up, you don't take counsel well. And a lot of times that has cost me, but now I'm at a point where I have a small but dedicated circle of people close to me who say a thing and I listen. And my girlfriend is one of those people and she will check me if she feels like I am going to grab more than I can handle because she don't really, I want, okay, I want to say she doesn't care if I'm present at home, but I know that's BS. But I think she's more concerned that I will burn myself out because then I turn into an asshole, man.”

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  18. “Or, like Monday through Thursday, I mean, we're talking three, four hours sleep. Saturdays, I'm not drilling. I'll sleep 10 hours, man. I'll get in. I'll figure it out because there was no way to do all that. There just isn't. I wouldn't recommend it. I'm never going back to a work a little like that again unless unless.”

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  19. “You don't know how you survived it. I heard this referenced, this idea referenced in women who give birth. It's like, apparently it's incredibly painful, right? But somehow they do it more than once in their life. I'm not talking about the new mothers. I'm talking about the ones that have multiple kids who know what they're getting into. So how does that relate? I don't know how I survived. I really don't. I think about this all the time. And I think, but I know I'm thinking about it from the perspective of having less to do and still feeling stressed. What I think I did, I can't tell you what I feel I did because I can't get back to that feeling. What I think I did is I gave up sleep a lot of times. Sleep is always optional. I'm not one of those guys that can go forever and four hours of sleep, right? I need my eight hours on average. With that said, on average is the thing we stress because, okay.”

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  20. “What's your You know what's funny? Right now in my life, so where I'm at right now last semester I took off School I took off so I could focus on boxing this semester. I'm taking off boxing to focus on school. I'm done with my service in the National Guard. So for the first time in over five years, the only thing I do, I mean, I wake up and I still work out, but I don't have to work out at the level of like warming the gym two or three times a day. And then I'm trying to put that in between school and then I have drilling on the weekend and then I got to come home and do stuff at home. So for the first time, it's very relaxed life. I'll tell you what I think I did to survive because you know what's funny about pain, right? When you look back at pain, you can't really remember, you can remember it hurting, right?”

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  21. “In the military, boxing, going to school, and still trying to be a decent person. And from my relationship at home, because that's important, you have to maintain and nurture those relationships. So that is really where that boxing thing, you know, we kind of moved on to a tangent, but moved on to something else. But I started boxing mainly to do something for four years minimum. Now it's turned into a decade, but We started there. I wasn't comfortable where I was at. And it was like, all right, let's go. Let's become something, something more than we are.”

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  22. “Narrowing they stop caring about you one day she says what have you done for four years like whether you're pro-education or anti-education what have you done for four years to show there is something else to do? Even if you had sat in a monk convent monastery You haven't done anything for the past four years, but show up at my house and eat my food and I was like And I remember I can't remember. I mean, I'm sure the man in me is editing the tears that may have happened in my memory, but I remember going, you are exactly right. I have not done anything. So when I got in a position where I really put the pedal to the metal, and that's how I've been living ever since. I mean, I took a little reprieve and, you know, that's part of life, you know, up and down. You can't be an auto time. But even now, until recently, until the past three months or so, I mean, it was in.”

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  23. “Of these things came together, and one day I was like, all right, I'm just gonna go with boxing and go down the line. But it all started with me wanting to do something and put some time in to reference that relationship that I had just got out of, an argument that will never ever leave my mind and greatly influence me. I used to be huge anti-higher education. For the most part, I still am. The difference is now I'm an adult in school pursuing a physics degree, but even there was a plan for that. But I used to be huge higher anti-education. The girl I was dating, this created some clashes because her mother was a professor of biology. So she'd hear me go on these rants every now and then or these arguments or she'd bring up biology to go back to school and I'd give some type of flippant 21 year old answer. And then one day near the end of our relationship, and you can always tell the end.”

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  24. “I had not advanced in any way, shape, or form as a man. And I was like, okay, this has got to change. And I think I wanted to do was, I think YouTube was just getting started and I had been watching fight videos. I was like, always wanted to try boxing. Let's go try boxing. But at that time, MMA was also getting big and I knew you had to learn jujitsu for MMA. And it was a whole complete system of fighting, not just with your hands. So there was a time for about a year when I first started training from like 22 to 23 where I was doing everything, like every single night for like six days a week. I was either in a boxing gym, I was in an octagon training. I was either on the mat learning how to roll. I was doing kickboxing. And I even did judo for a little while, but almost twisted my knee and I was like, how useful is judo really? Is it worth twisting my knee?”

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  25. “You know, so there's always been my interest in these things outside of boxing. And I've always had the interest in boxing, but I didn't get a chance to for lots of reasons, and those aren't really relevant. But for lots of reasons why there were lots of reasons why I didn't get a chance to do boxing. And then one day I at 22 or something, yeah, 22, I decided I was going to do this. And part of that is because I just got out of a relationship that was that lasted for four years. And I was a total chump about a lot of things. And one of those things was I wanted to make sure I was in a position to see her every day. So that meant taking horrible jobs and not advancing myself in my academics or whatever. So at the end of four years from 18 to 22, I was.”

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