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  1. I'm thinking that's so, and he is the most simple mindset, but it works for him because the best thing you can do is be honest with yourself as well. Just try and understand, take a step back and just think about what is happening in the world and your world right now. And if you can understand it, you can deal with it and you can solve it. But just think simple.

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  2. For hours and hours and hours Just keep it simple Don't overcomplicate things. Don't overthink things. But yeah, he keeps mine. That's difficult when you want something so bad and you're chasing it. But if you start to really overanalyze, that's when things start creeping in. Just keep it simple. And, you know, sometimes if things get tough or, you know, we've got problems and I say to my old man, he said, don't worry. He said, just wake up an hour earlier tomorrow and go to bed an hour later.

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  3. No, it's another counselling session. I'm going to leave here now and go away and have to have a deep thing. I think the best thing you can talk about mindset and mentality.

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  4. And with Frank, you know, he done one recently, and I could see him shaking. You know, I was just taking the piss out of him and I just said, just keep doing it. Keep doing it. Repetition. Repetition. Keep putting yourself in situations. Steve Davis, who is my godfather, I said to him once How do you know when you talk about sort of sports where Make a difference. It's nothing more than a snooker. I said, how do you not get nervous? You go down to pop the blackboard and just little one little jolt and it's all over. And he said, I have no nerve endings. He said, because I've been put in the position time and time again in the end. Just he's second nature. It's just like riding a bike, and that's the same with business. You have to keep putting yourself in a position time and time again, and you'll keep improving.

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  5. Exceptional things and used to things when you become familiar with them. And when you put yourself in the same position time and time again, talk about Frank. You know, we always laugh about him giving his press conferences, you know, because when I did my first ever press conference, which was Audley Harrison against David Hay, I couldn't stop shaking. You wouldn't have known it at the time, but I put my hands on the table like this, and I could feel them. I could see him going. So I just, when I spoke, I just put him underneath my legs like this and just leaned forward, and you would never have known. When I've done the next one a little bit less, and the next one, and then within five or six, I never needed notes. I just speak, you know, for hours.

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  6. That's not your calm. That's not your moment. It's their moment. I'm fine. Yeah, when AJ fights, he ain't nervous. I'm fucking shitting myself because I can't control it. It's not me. It's not what I do. But that's what he does. You know, when a fight's fallen through or it looks like a massive show's about to be cancelled and other people in here might be going, oh, do you think it'll be right? Do you think? And I just lock the door and say, right, leave me alone. And I go, that's no problem for me. But you only become...

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  7. And that's the same for us, so it's not like I want aggravation, but stick me in it, put me in front of problems and tell me I can't do something. That's where I'm in my moment. Am I in my moment where I'm sitting at home, you know, watching TV? No, I'm at my best when I'm doing those 200 interviews or I've got problems or a fight's fallen through and all of a sudden a shit's hit the fan. That's when I'm at my best. And that's where I do feel calm in a way. You know, at first, when you have problems, you know, it might be a panic. But for me, okay, this is what we do. We go to work now. And that's the same for an athlete or a fighter. That's when they feel calm, when you might be watching going,

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  8. If it wasn't time. If it wasn't time, and we don't know when it will be time But what you just said there is very true because, like any athlete, That moment when they're in the chaos is where they feel most at peace with themselves. You speak to any fire and you say, where would you rather be anywhere in the world? And I say, in the ring.

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  9. Probably not. But I don't know. I don't think that For five minutes and making a load of money will make me happy, but it will make me happy to be able to say, I can't believe we've done it. I can't believe what we've achieved.

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  10. He doesn't. He doesn't. He doesn't want any of that. He's going, no, son, we've got the most amazing business. We're forecasted to just continue growth for the next five, ten years. We've got broadcast contracts locked in. We're untouchable. And I'm like, yeah, but how do we go? You know, I want offices. You know, we have offices in England, in New York, in Milan, in Madrid. I want offices in Sydney, in Toronto, in Mumbai, in Beijing. Because we're not supposed to have it. We were never supposed to be this business. I was never supposed to be this kid.

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  11. 50, 45 years, and he's got the same passion, the same energy that he did when he first started the company. That's got to tell you something.

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  12. I was talking to Freddie Flint off on my pod yesterday and I said about legacy. And he went, yeah, I think legacy is a load of bollocks. I actually, I disagree a little bit because, you know, when you go back to that moment where you're on your deathbed and it might be today, and when you've achieved something like that, you start laughing. And you go, I can't believe we've done it. I can't believe we've done it. And that would be the better kind of memories or the achievement to me. Can you believe we've done it? But you've got to enjoy it at the same time. But, you know, I don't know. You can debate this all day long because you sit back on the deathbed and you say, yeah, but was I really happy? Of course, because this is bringing us happiness. I know that every day I come in here. And I'm smiling and I'm up for it and I'm passionate and I'm full of energy. And I've got to drive and a fire in my belly. That's good enough for me. My dad comes in every day. He's been coming here into this business for...

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  13. To be honest, nothing, the money wouldn't change my lifestyle at all. I'm not, I've got a couple of nice cars, right? I've got a nice house. I don't want to yacht. I don't want a jet. I don't want, I mean, well, I mean, we'll talk about it. But, you know, I don't want for anything. I'm at the age now. Maybe when I was in my 20s, yeah, wow, you get a private jet and he got, you just rent it. If you need it, so it's just the fact that what we've done, I think legacy is...

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  14. I don't know. I just live in the moment. I live in there. I just feel that every day we're trying to expand, we're trying to push the boundaries, we're trying to do more. So would I like this business to sell or have a value of thought? Fucking right. Because it's ridiculous. We're just a couple of, like, he's out of Dagnam, I'm his son.

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  15. That's just the UFC number. But because Why it matters is Was never on the agenda. It was never possible. It could never be done. And I guess it goes back to the competition with my dad where I'm saying, you know, I believe, you know, when you talk about PE ratios and the value of a business, yeah, we know what we're worth now. But I do believe we have the potential to be worth those kind of numbers.

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  16. It's just growth, isn't it? You know, you know that as a family business, you can see in our financial results, we're fantastic. We're a huge family business in terms of the numbers that we're delivering year on year end. But at the same time You're almost capped by the growth and by the numbers within the currents within that setup. You know, okay. So when you start, you turn a break even business into a 5 million eBit DAR company and then before you know it, the aim is 10 and 15 and now we're 30. And how do you get to... four billion

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  17. So, all of a sudden, I've been given interviews like that, and then the calls are come, right? We want, you know, and it's like, guys, we don't need it. We're not, if I wanted to go and get funding, if I wanted to go and float, I'd do it tomorrow It's a big head button system with me and my dad. And, you know, he's starting to look, and I'm just saying, we can't just be blind to it. He's a natural progression for any business in terms of growth to look at these models and

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  18. And I take the interest from hedge funds and investment funds with unbelievable amount of compliment to say, wow, and the calls are coming in non-stop because they appreciate the model of growth where when we talk about one sport, one promoter, one belt, you know, that mindset, it's a carbon copy of the UFC. Now, the UFC sold for 4.6 billion. There is no reason why boxing with so much more history, with so much more credibility with fans and broadcasters can't replicate that model and actually be even more valuable than the UFC business. And I'm really the only chance it has to do it. It's not going to be Bob Aram. It's not going to be Don King. It's not going to be Frank Warren. It's going to be me.

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  19. The sun's quite interesting. You know, I've been blessed with two amazing daughters, of course. Every man would quite like son. Didn't work out. That's what God gave me. But there is, it's an interesting point because my end goal, if I had a son, and listen, only 41, who knows, but... I think it would be more here we go again down the line kind of thing. With me, I would quite like to end. journey with my dead. Do you know what I mean? To say Look at what we're not, it's gone, but look at where we started, look at where we finished because it's very difficult.

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  20. That's a good point because that is the conversation, you know. Ever since I started to understand business more, for me that is a natural progression of a family business. To go family business investment or Because how do you, I have aspirations for this business to grow globally and to be staging events in every major territory in the world. You know, to do that does require huge investment, does require management, and we can do it, but that's not our speciality. Our speciality is creating great live events for our broadcasters and fans. My dad has always said to me, I will never, ever, ever take investment for the business, float the business or sell the business. And I've always over the years gone, yeah, but, you know, we've got to get to it. And actually...

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  21. Fire's not there anymore. I'm done, or I might be saying right now I want to take over music. Now I want to take over football. Now I want to, you know, so it's difficult to say.

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  22. This guy that was so intense and who had a bad temper, and you know, and then all of a sudden, once boxing went. He was just chilled out. Wow, I can't believe what's happened to my life. So, you know, I hate to let people win. And if I left, ultimately they would win. But I guess the only time you can walk away is when you're content. And will the contentment ever come at the moment, like you say, possibly not? But who knows? Who knows where we can build to where we can get to, where it might be that moment. And again, you have to always leave the option open because, as I said, your thoughts at 20 are totally different to your thoughts at 30 and 40 and 50. I may get to 50 and we may be, you know, have had another great 10 years and I might go.

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  23. Again, it's the thrill, isn't it? I like to win. I like to be. So the thing that would hurt me more is if I turn around tomorrow and went, I couldn't have done any more in boxing. Bye. What would hurt me more is sitting on the beach not, you know, enjoy myself going Now I'm gone all those people that I was fighting again for all those years to become number one they've got no they're back you know they're back and that's what my dad walked away from boxing because it is the most aggravating business and intense business and that's what I'm saying about all throughout the night because everyone's trying to fuck you non-stop right so you have to sleep with one eye open and I think he got to a stage where he went, I don't want to do this anymore. I'm going to go and do darts where everyone's going to love me. Do you know what I mean? And I'm jealous of him for that because I saw growing up.

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  24. You go up to the cashier's desk and you say, cash that in for me, and they go, And you walk away and you go. And then you get sit down, you're going to have a nice beer

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  25. Meditating No, but I think it all depends where you get to. You know, it's like when you're building your stack at poker, you know, the problem with gambling is you never know when to walk away, right? And we're not gambling anymore because we're very good at what we do, but life is always a gamble. So when you build your stack, it's that moment when you say to the cashier, Get a wreck place and you put it in your wreck.

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  26. Yeah, you're probably right. But I'd like to think that at least what I'm telling the miss is that one day we'll chill out. You know what I mean? Could you imagine?

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  27. You can't wake up in the night every night and start writing emails, doing contracts, texting people, and then wake up at seven and do the school run and then drive to work and do it all over again every single day, unless you're a little bit ill in the head.

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  28. No, but if you knew me at school and you knew, I just, it was more like. Hodder put it to me during before lockdown. And when lockdown come, I panicked. And I was like, oh, and next, you know, talk about being at home with your kids. Now I'm at home with my kids and I've got no events and so I was just like for those first two weeks I was just, right, we launched a fitness show with Sky that people could do at home, fighting fit. I said to the guys, yeah, get me that book deal. I'll write it now. Let's do the book now. And I wrote it in lockdown, you know, and I was just zooms, more Zooms, more interviews because I was just scared of not having that drive every single day of going out there. And I did enjoy it. He's an illness. It is an illness. Let's be honest. We're all sick, aren't we? I mean, like, you can't do.

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  29. So there's a method to the madness The book was something that I wanted to do because I just thought it was funny that I would ever write a book, right? I didn't think it's funny.

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  30. I then set out to be a celebrity and I set out to be a businessman. I set out to Continue the success that my dad built. But I do recognize that if I am well known, if I am a showman, if I am a celebrity, it will help me push my events. It will help me push the profile of fighters. You know, you get to a stage now where the industry haters might say, oh, well, it's ridiculous. He's doing all these interviews, you know, he's more popular than most of his fighters. More popular is the wrong word, well known than some of his fighters. But that's me, you know, and I look at the success of the UFC. I look at the growth of that business and Dana White and every major fight sport product has that lead guy in WWE. It's Vince McMahon. You know, in MMA, it's Dana White. And in boxing, I guess it's me. I want it to be

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  31. What are you doing? I mean, once might be quite funny, you know, I'll pick it up and you give me a bit. But all day, every day, you know, because I'd hate to be one of those people that just wakes up every morning with no fire in the belly, with no passion, with nothing. And there are, by the way, that's 95% of the population. Many people. That's why it's so important to me here to create an environment and matrimony for the team where you enjoy being there. You know, we get food together, we've got a gym, we've got a pool, we're all travelling away to events, we'll have a night out, do that because you can't be in a job or a life where you're just flat. How am I going to get the best out of you if you don't love what you do? And it's very difficult to have that same passion when it's not your business. So motivation is important

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  32. You can't focus. I said all the energy you're putting into phoning me because you think it's banter or it's some kind of accomplishment if I pick up the phone. I said put it into something worthwhile. I said because you really waste in your life. And he just went quiet. And he's like, oh, come on. What about a few quid off the pay-per-view? And I'm like, no, no, mate. I'm serious. I want to help. You've got to change. And then you just hung up and I thought, shit, but it's true, isn't it? What are you doing?

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  33. I can't be bothered to change it, right? So this guy's private number, private number, private number. And it's all day, right? So I pick it up and I go, hello, mate. And he goes, Bloody hell. Eddie. And I go, yeah, how you doing, mate? And he goes, When you're going to stop ripping us off on the pay per views or something like that, right? And I go. And I went to him, mate, let's have a serious conversation. What are you doing? He goes, What do you mean? What am I? I said, Have you got a job? And he's like, yeah. I said, you haven't, have you? And he's like, well, not at the moment. I said, what are you doing? I said, how many times have you phoned me today? I mean, the answer was like forty, right? I said.

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  34. 25 years. Same one. And someone posted and went, give it, this is Eddie Hern's number. Give him a call and, you know, tell him what you think about the pay-per-view price or whatever it is. And my phone was going like it was like every literally all day it was just private number, private number. And I thought, you know what? You got to change your number. And I thought, I can't be bothered. So I started answering a few, right? And to this day, this was a few years ago. People still do it. And there's this one guy.

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  35. So we can't just, you know, but it's become a toxic place. It really has, you know, and I worry for my kids. Sometimes one of them be on TikTok and she'll put a dance out and someone will come back and say, you know, I don't know, you're ugly. You're stupid, you know. And it's like, we never had that in our day. We never even had a phone. If someone didn't like you, they might say something in the playground, but that's about it. So we live in a world of criticism. And I think it's a negativity. But that's what I said to my old man. I said, Do you imagine these people, they're all doing it all day? I'll put a post out. It's the same ones all the time. And I don't think, you know, even to the point where someone posted my phone number on Twitter, right? And I've had my phone number for.

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  36. Stuff Like the personal stuff couldn't give a monkeys about. It's more about people when you're put in the work in something and you're so passionate about something and you're actually working for the good of might be the sport or whatever. It's the people that just presume see you completely differently. So that's the frustration. But over the last couple of years, I just started thinking to myself, I was having a conversation with my old man. My old man's on Twitter, right? And he phoned me up and he goes, I'm having an argument with this geezer on Twitter, right? And he was going on about the snooker and the format. And I said to him, I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I said, are you serious? I said, who is one who is this boat? I said, do you imagine someone stopping you on the street and having a pop at you about the snooker format? But it also, it's the platform that made us what we are. It got us to the top. You know, the interaction with the fans and the understanding of their mindset.

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  37. It's a new thing, isn't it? But when I was coming through When I was overturning the system, the support was unreal, and I was really feeding off that. I mean, anyone that says, you know, they're not affected by criticism or they're not worried about, I mean, there's a load of rubbish. Of course you don't like people criticizing you. And by the way, you love people patting you on the back and championing you, of course. It's natural.

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  38. Think social media is horrendous as well. I've made the decision in the last couple of years year specifically to start ignoring and blocking out a lot of

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  39. You start off, you think twenty six miles by me, and you go one, two, three, four, five, and you're okay, and then you're 12, 13, you think I've done a half. You get to 18, 19, you think, I can't do it anymore. And you think, just get to 20, get to 2021. And when you see that 20 mile marker, you know, and then you get to 20 and you go, do you know what? Still got six miles. I can't do it. And you go 21, 22, 23. And then when it's all over, you can look back. But if you start worrying about the future, you're going to gas out. You're not going to make it

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  40. That is true because you can't worry about things that may or may not happen. And you can't change things that have already happened. You can do is change what is happening today, and it's simple to do that. Again, in the book, I ran a marathon, one marathon, right? Because my dad ran loads and he took the mick out of me. I had to do it. And it's the same kind of thing. You start the marathon, you think 26 miles. If you start thinking about running twenty-six miles, I mean, it did give me anxiety attacks to start with. I was thinking, that's just ridiculous. I've never done more than 10K. And then you train and you train and you train and you build. And then every mile marker is an obstacle.

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  41. Just to say, and I would tick everyone off. Yeah, and I would say at the end of the day, I would look at it and I would go, done. That's the momentum back. That's where you get the feeling of accomplishment, even on tiny things, to say, okay, I'm moving in the right direction. For me, that is a big help for me is short-term focus. Because once you start worrying about what's going to happen next week or next month or next year. No, and you're going to start driving yourself crazy. You've just got to say, okay, this is what I need to do today. Tomorrow I need to do the same thing. And then before you know it, you'll start making positive changes. You'll start achieving because you know what you've set, the targets you've set yourself, you are achieving.

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  42. And then a month later, you've not even heard about it. Oh, well, what happened was. We launched, and then you know the council came in, or the regulation board came in, and this other company tried to do this, and it just, it's like, no, because you didn't focus on So sometimes when I'm a little bit off or, you know, might be traveling a lot in the equilibrium's gone and it's like, okay, so I'm just going to write down. What I'm going to do today, and it can be really menial stuff, could be walk the dog, you know, could be finalize a contract, could be go to the gym, could be go and get some food, you know. Just

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  43. Stuff. You're going to be having a conversation and go, I've just been thinking about that. And if that happens, I was thinking, you know, next year, you could be there. And then from there, it's like, whoa, whoa, whoa. What are you doing? Just when you're struggling mentally, focus on the short term. Focus on day by day. I think sometimes people look at, and this is the same for business, when you have project or a long-term plan, there are so many short-term obstacles and goals to overcome to get there. That's why many times you spoke to someone.

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  44. If your perception of that person is well he's young, he's good looking, he's healthy, he's rich, he's successful, how can he be struggling from depression? What a load of rubbish. And actually, it takes the older generation even longer. I mean, I think my dad's only just accepted now that it exists with people because his mentality is dust yourself down. What's the matter with you? And that's wrong because it is real, you know, and it does exist. I don't, you know, have I had days where I've been feeling incredibly down. Yeah, but surely that's normal. I don't see myself suffering from that. And I think mental health problems and depression, I think it comes from overthinking. My brother-in-law is hilarious. I've never known anyone who just overthinks and worries about.

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  45. I don't think so, I mean I think again depression's one of those things a bit like yoga and breathing and stuff we were talking about earlier if you would have said to me ten years ago listen maybe even five or six years ago so and so suffering from depression

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  46. That's difficult because we make our own decisions. We're a hands-on business. That's what we love. We've turned down investment and opportunities for years because we don't want to ball the directors. We make the decisions and we do what we want to do because we love what we do. But when you see such growth and you see such interest and you see the opportunity for a much vaster wealth being quite honest, do you want it? And if you want it, what's the exit strategy? Because at the moment, the exit strategy for our family is from the day you start working, from the day you die, you work your nuts off every single day. I mean, it's not particularly advanced.

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  47. Being approached for investment, for takeover, for IPOs. And now we're sort of at that stage of growth where, I don't know, I just see, I see a faster exit strategy than my dad. At least that's what I'm selling to her. Just give me a few more years. Just give me a few more years. But I do want to go and enjoy it because I can't say I'm not enjoying myself because I love what I do, but I do want that moment to just, you know, but it's the walking away. How do you just one day turn around and you might sell the business or, you know, you might float and you take more of a backseat role.

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  48. Whether in 20 years' time we play this back, I don't think I want to be 70, maybe even 60, 70, 80 doing this, dealing with problems. And listen, maybe I won't even make it that long. But for me, I definitely have the mindset of not I want to get in and get out, but I do want to get that moment where I do sit on the beach with a cigar. Don't even smoke cigars, but, you know, and a whiskey, don't even like whiskey. But, you know, I can imagine the picture at least and go, do you know what? We've done it. We done well. But walking away is the thing that at the moment would kill me, you know, to be able, imagine when you wrap up shop and, you know, this might be, I mean, for us, we've gone from being a family business, you know, to having four employees to now all of a sudden having hundreds of employees in multiple offices around the world.

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  49. I think she, because she knows how important it is to me, I think she would say, no, he needs to do it. He has to do it. But I think the hope is that there is an end place or an end goal. For me, Yet but for me I don't

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  50. To, you know, we'll do, I'll race back from somewhere and I'll say, right, you know, tonight let's go out for dinner and I'll be naked. I don't, you know, hopefully she don't listen to this. I really don't want to go for dinner tonight. But you have to do it. And that's what my dad has kind of always taught me. Son, you've got to do, you got to big family people. My mum is it from the east end. She's old school. As far as they're concerned, the man goes out and puts the bread on the table and the wife looks after the man. Old world. That don't exist anymore. But every morning or every night, my mum will iron my dad a shirt and she will put it on the door for him in the morning.

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