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  1. Don't say this is the most important thing to make, because that'll get you bang in trouble. But this is extremely important to me. And I think because she's been around my family, because she knows how important it is to us, she kind of just gets it, you know, and there'll be times where she'll say, I hear you on the phone last night at five o'clock in the morning. I say, yeah, you know, we was doing the Canelo deal or, you know, AJ deal or she would just look at me and go, but over time, you know, I think the most difficult thing is the early stages of dating because it's very difficult for a woman. They want your attention. You know, people sometimes think that women want, you know, money and a nice house. And of course, everybody does. But they don't really. They want your attention and they want your company and they want your time. And there are three things that are very difficult to do when you live that kind of lifestyle. So you do have...

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  2. Life, you just nothing's perfect. You know, you've got two people that love each other. I've known her since my twenties. I've changed, we've both changed a lot over the years, but we've changed together and we've grown together. And this is what I do. And I would have had that conversation with her at some point many years ago to the point saying, look, nothing's going to get in my way. And I don't mean to sound horrible. And I love you and, you know, I want to spend the rest of my life with you, but you have to understand me. You have to understand that this is extremely important.

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  3. I think they need to know you. They need to know what drives you. I mean, if you had a conversation with my wife, You said, What is he like? You know, she'd just go, well, he's just in his own world, isn't he? I mean, the amount of times, you know, that moment where you get home and they go, right, I need to talk to you and you go into the kitchen. They go, right, now, Isabella, you know, I spoke to her teacher today and what... I'm gone, right? So I'm gone. And I'm thinking that contract's got to be in at 9pm, you know, blah, blah. And she goes to me, what did I say? And I go, this is school. What? And she just, but it's not like, and she'll go, listen, we have blazing rounds You're so selfish, all you care about is work. But again, it just gets to a point where you just have to understand.

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  4. But the same thing, that was me at school. That was the kid telling the teachers, I don't have to do that. You know, and that, ugh, that runs shivers down me.

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  5. And my responsibility now is to take that to the next level. You know, he built this from the foundations from nothing. I'm not going to let it just fizzle out as he goes into his 80s. I want to take it to the next level. But the difference is, is I don't have to do this. You know, I'm not looking at this and it's my way out. You know, just if I just make some money, I can buy the Lamborghini. I could have done that at 21.

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  6. Well, I do it because it's what I want to do ultimately. I mean, I do have an obligation. You know, I do have responsibilities. I'm talking about in the workplace Know, we've got a fantastic team here, but ultimately when we're announcing a show, when we're doing a press conference, when we do it, they want me. They want their flesh, so they roll me out, and I'm just like, I'm like a travelling salesman. Right, Eddie Winnie announcing this show today, off you go, right, here we go back in the car, here we go, you know. But I do it because I enjoy it, because I love it, because I have an obligation to do it for the business that my father created.

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  7. For something. And that's a key word, passion, because when we talk about being relentless and we talk about this work ethic, you can only have it if you love what you do and if you have a passion for what you do. I don't think you can trick yourself. You can, but you can't be as good, you know.

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  8. And I'm sitting in this room of people, and they're listening to me, and I'm thinking, you know, firstly, you must be listening to me thinking, this bloat, who is he? What is he? A car used car dealer or something like that. And then, but I'm talking around, I'm saying to you, what do you want to do? Well, you know, what is success to you? They've not got a clue. And it's not because they're at Oxford and they're deluded. It's because that's just, it's very difficult at that age to understand. I don't believe anyone at faulty looks back at what they were thinking at twenty and said, yeah, I had this plan I'm there now and this is what I always wanted to do. So it takes time to develop a passion.

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  9. But the mindset or the changing mindset over the years is unbelievable. I always say to people, what matters to you now, you will look back on when you get to my age and go, I can't believe I even used to worry about stuff like that. And that's important because I feel like people that are very successful, you did it at a very young age, very impressive because I think it takes time. Now, when I did the Cambridge talk the other day, you know, you're sitting down with all these young, I mean, I'm street smart and I can sell, right? These people are like, I'm jealous of boffins. I used to take the Mickey out of boffins. I'm jealous of boffins now. I find intellectual people fascinating. I love talking to them and just trying to learn and absorb.

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  10. Do you know what I mean? I'm married, I've got two kids, I've got business. I'm struggling to balance everything, you know, but I'm here. I'm not going to roll back the years and do this and do that. And I know exactly what I'm doing. I know exactly where I'm at. I know exactly what I'm focusing on. And that life starts to become a lot easier then at your age. You know, I went to work, I left college after my A-levels. I went to work for five years in sports management companies, in event management companies. I was a sports agent on the PGA tour in America. I had no idea where I was going. I mean, I just wanted to be successful. I wanted to earn money, you know.

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  11. You know, it's the same kind of thing. You know when you're young and you're courting or you're looking for a young lady to show you some interest. You know when you try really hard and you're sort of on edge and you're a bit, don't really like my hair or oh god. You know the ones that walk into the bar and just go mate, you know, I know I'm not the best, but they're the ones that everybody gravitates to. Anyone with a smile on their face is always creates so much more energy and flow than the people that don't. And that's about being comfortable in yourself. So I think that it's very difficult of everything you've achieved at your age to just know where you're going or what you're doing. I'm done

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  12. Is the best feeling in life, you know, is the best feeling in life, and I think when I was growing up at school, I wasn't subconsciously. I think I had a massive chip on my shoulder. And that's why I was a bit of a knob, to be quite honest. But when you get comfortable with yourself, it's a beautiful thing in life. It really is. You know, when you wake up in the morning and you've always got to try for me and look good and feel good and be the best version of yourself you can be, but you do get to a stage and that's actually when you become really powerful and effective.

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  13. Okay, you're a baby. Right? When I was 27. What people thought of me really mad. You know, I mean, listen, I've been working out for 35 years just to stay fat's going a little bit. I could not give up monkeys now. At your age, oh man, I was, you know, I might have been Jack the Lad. I might have been turning up that. But deep down, you know, it'd only take one of the boys to say, you know, tell you what. How do you put in on a bit of timber? Oh, look, look, Barnett's creeping back. What?

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  14. What might feel right then is, do you know what? Should have probably missed a few trips really and just done the school run a little bit more. And I know that. You have to, you really have to understand where you are in life. This is great for your mental health as well and your sanity. You've got to be honest with yourself and you've got to understand the situation. I know exactly where I'm at, what I'm thinking, what I'm doing, the sacrifices I'm making, what I could do better at, what I, you know, but I'm okay with it. You know, you can't get the perfect balance. But as long as you understand what is going on and you're not deluded, you're not stubborn. Don't worry about it. I'm not, yeah. I know, I know, I need to do more at home. I know I need to do more school runs. I know I need to be less short with the wife sometimes.

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  15. Does, but I think in that moment, your emotions are very different to when you're well and fit and on the hustle and just, you know, so you don't get a chance to reflect on that kind of moment until you're there. And the obvious reflection at that point is, I wish I would have spent more time with my family. I wish I would have been less focused, probably, on work. But I'm not a believer in the thoughts then are not the thoughts now. And you have to act on the moment. You can't live your life saying, well, blind me, when I'm on my deathbed, you might look back and because I don't think you can plan like that. You have to do what's in your heart. You have to do what feels right. And what feels right for me right now is this.

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  16. Since that moment, I've been thinking a lot about if I, you know, if I went now, do you look back and say I couldn't have done any more? I had a great time. And I think the answer is yes. I mean, we could all do better. But my dad is an inspiration in that respect because he's the kind of person that couldn't have squeezed one more drop out of his life, right? So I'm quite envious of that. He's 73. And who knows how long he's going to last? But I do feel like it's very important that when you get to whatever stage when God says that's enough for you, that you are able to look back and say, I couldn't have done anymore. And that scares me a little bit because I want to...

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  17. That's actually something that I thought about quite a lot. And the reason was about Four months ago. My granddad passed away. He was 93. Great life, you know. And when I went to see him in his last couple of days, he obviously didn't look great. And I looked at him and I thought, wow, life's crazy, isn't it? I said, everything that you've done in your life. And now you're laying here, about to leave So, when you get experiences like that, you have to be reminded sometimes that this is a game. Life is a game. We're only on borrowed time, right? And you can never take yourself too seriously. I think that's one thing I do well is I love to have a laugh and I don't take myself too seriously. In answer to your question,

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  18. Every week, every day, because you've got your own life, you've got your own vision, you've got your own plans. But you still go for lunch and you get on better than ever. And it's the ones that say, oh, he's don't talk to us anymore. I ain't got time, mate. But this goes back to the sacrifices. You know, if I fall out with friends, Because of what I'm trying to achieve in my own personal life and my business. So be it, I know again that sounds, you know, and it's not about being a bad friend or a bad person, but you can't worry about other people as long as you're a good person, as long as you do the right thing. The fact that you don't have time at the moment, but that's when you people might perceive you to be an asshole.

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  19. I think that it's just time for people. You end up being, it's not that you can turn into that if you're not one, but... You become busy, it's a bit like you know when people say that, oh, he's changed. Course he's changed, his life's changed. His responsibilities changed, his business has changed. You can't expect him to say the same people. And when you have a group of friends, when you all come out of school and sort of going from there and you're talking every day, the ones that sort of grow. Friendships are still as strong, but you just don't talk to each other.

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  20. And we got to a position where UK boxing where we are virtually untouchable. But I just don't want to be that guy who takes the foot off the gas. I want to bang every single nail in the coffin and then move on to another market and another market and another market. But you do get the worry with that mindset is you may look back when you're 80 or 90 and go, wow, you know, look at everything you've done. You never really enjoyed it, did you? I mean, I love what I do. But you probably should savor it a little bit more than you do. But again, it goes back to that mindset of being so driven, you want the next a drug. Success is a drug. But you've got to be careful that it doesn't turn you into an arsehole at the same time. Because how many successful people do you know? Absolute arseholes. Arseholes. Horrible, rude. No man is obnoxious.

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  21. And that's when you just feel a little bit low and empty, it's over. Same with what you talk about with Phelps. It's the highest versus the lows. You can't just experience the highs and then be happy with the lows. So you want more and more and more and more. And my own biggest critic, and I'm also very pessimistic, which is strange to a lot of people. But I kind of use it to play tricks on myself, to keep myself driven. So when I do something or when I've planned something, I always say to myself, there's going to be problems. I think it's going to go wrong. I doubt this will happen. You know, I don't know why I do it, but it just helps me to battle away, to overcome everything, to get to the place. And then when I achieve something, which others might think is great, I say to myself, that's nothing. You've got a long way to go because I'm scared of sitting back with the cigar on the beach and going, I've cracked it. You can't touch me.

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  22. Because that's probably depressed is the wrong word, but I go back, you know, I finish the media obligations two, three o'clock in the morning, go back to the hotel, and that is when I'll sit there, get into bed, and then obviously you can't sleep because the buzz and the adrenaline.

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  23. We say that we wanted to do, you know, when AJ turned pro, we wanted him to be the world heavyweight champion, you know, he won that. Great. We were in the ring after jumping up and down. As soon as we got out of the ring, yeah, and then it's like, okay, we want to do something. We got the Klitschko Okay, you go through it 90,000 at Wembley, you stand there, everyone that was at the event tells you it's the greatest sporting occasion they've ever been to. How do you feel At the time, amazing. In the ring, amazing. And then not even the day after, I never go out really, and I never drink really after a show.

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  24. Well, it doesn't end because and actually you're always searching. This is a problem and something you have to be careful of because when you Trying to succeed, and when you're trying to become great, actually the great people, they never feel content with achievement. And I'm very much like that. Frank Lampard, again, going back to him, he said that when he won the Champions League, he's always dreamed of winning the Champions League. And he stood there with a trophy. And he felt nothing. I mean, he felt happy, but definitely not content, definitely not I've cracked it. That might go back to the sickness, you know, that we talked about earlier. And when we talk about sickness, I mean, probably not medically sick, but sick in the head a little bit to a point where I get it all the time

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  25. So I can't go to bed. I can't disappear when it gets to 11am or on the west coast or midday on the west coast because they want to speak to me and we want to do business.

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  26. It's impossible, you know, and but what you don't want to do is you don't want to disregard your obligations, your family obligations, because they are extremely important. But you also need a wife or a partner who's understanding enough to say, This is what I know what he's like, he won't stop. And that's why when Frank talks about 3am 4am, that's because a lot of the time I'm sort of making up for the hour or two that I've lost out playing with the kids. So I'll put them to sleep. They'll go to sleep at 9, half nine, you know, chill out with a wife for an hour. She'll go to sleep. And then I'm up. And now with the growth in America, it means that at 4 p.m., 5 p.m., the West Coast wakes up.

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  27. You're pushing the swing and you're going like this, trying to send a message at the same time. It's impossible. Listen, I know because sometimes my eldest daughter is old enough to say, Dad, please get off the phone. And that kills me because that's bad to hear. I'm like, okay, okay. But then 30 seconds later, I'm back just having a look down because it's a lifestyle. And it's impossible to be great at anything without making sacrifices. It doesn't matter if you're a fighter, if you're a sportsman. You speak to old successful people. You can't be everything.

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  28. You have to be incredibly selfish. You have to, you know, for me, family is the most important thing, but I have to be brutally honest and say I don't let even family get in the way of things that I have to do. And that can make you an asshole and it can make you sound terrible. But I just don't know any way around it. There is no way you can be the perfect husband or the perfect father and run a successful business or, you know, be a, you know, a relentless operator. It's impossible because I know because I try to balance both. But when you're flying back from America, from a show and you land at 7 o'clock in the morning and then you go to Manchester for a press conference and you come home and you just make it to pick them up from school and then you get back and they say dad, dad, let's go over the park and you're just absolutely on empty and your phone's going and you're trying to do another deal.

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  29. Over there. So he would get home from work if he was in a country. You know, he would always go out and give me a game of football cricket. And then he would go in the office all night on the phone. And I would have dinner and I would just sit in the office. I might have a ball just throwing it up in the air. But I would subconsciously listen to the arguments and him losing his temper and just listen, not because I wanted to learn, just because I was there.

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  30. I think they're tough on you because they don't want you to be that spoilt kid. I mean, you always want to spoil your kids. You know, you want to give them the great, even now, you know, I've got two daughters. I love to spoil. I work hard so I can give them a great life. But I just want them to understand manners, respect and discipline. These are the three most important things. And he would make sure that I would understand that even by having me working, you know, give me a clout every now and again, you know, trying to keep, because it must have been frustrating for him because I was probably all the things that he resented when he was growing up. The rich kid with parents who had got big house and cars. And I would have hated me at school, you know, but he would have looked at me. And that's why he was so disciplined with me. And I was in his slipstream growing up. So I would sit, we're here now. That was my house.

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  31. I think so many people with successful parents end up just doing okay. But how do you go beyond that? How do you outperform everything that he done? And I feel like I've done that in many ways, but I will never be able to outperform the fact that he came from nothing. My friend is in a very similar position. If I said my friend's name, you'd know the guy. His dad is a...

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  32. Like from Dagnam, and all of a sudden he'd got Ferraris and big cars, and we used to have a white limo and a black limo that would drive like the snooker players around and the fighters around. And I was horrible. I was obnoxious. Imagine a 14, 15-year-old kid hanging around with UBank and Naz and then you're in a limo with your mates going up to London or to Romford for a night out. I mean, I look back and just cringe. But mine was different. I guess when it comes down to it and, you know, again, from the book and speaking to people like Frank Lampard, he went to my school. He was in the year above me. At my school, I was Barry Hearn's son. And Frank Lampard was Frank Lampard's son. You know, his dad played for West Ham. And it's a different kind of drive if you can make it flow in the right way. You know, when you're talking about sort of mindset and hustle, where all of a sudden

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  33. The thing you seek validation from when you're older. And what I meant by that is like in my childhood, because we didn't have money and I was this black kid in a school of 1,500 white kids, everything that we didn't have became the things that I chased when I was older. Or the thing that made me feel somewhat invalid sometimes when I was a kid, like you're saying about your dad saying, oh, you lost today, became the thing that I would seek validation from as an adult. And I wondered if that resonated with you at all. I mean, like a lot of different background. I mean, my dad was poor, became rich and I was born. So I've said before, it's not like when you talk about generational wealth, we didn't have generational wealth. I had a dad who was from Dagnam, was from a councillor estate. His dad was a bus driver. And then I grew up in this sort of nouveau world where this bloke had made his money and he was, you know, I take the Mickey out of him. I suppose he was a bit of a chav. You know, he was.

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  34. have enough food on the you know make enough money to have food on the table and make sure everything's okay at home and be happy you know and have a happy life with no no stress or no drama that's success to a lot of people but people's interpretation of success is very different and you know for me i i still don't know why i i do and i know i know why i do this but like you say I love it, I guess. That's what it comes down to, a passion for what you do. And I don't know what the passion is. Is it the passion that I love the sport of boxing? Is it the passion that I want to succeed against, you know, and be bigger than my dad? I think that's a big part of it as well. Or is it just that I love to win or is it that I'm a bit sick in the head? Maybe all of them. The sick in the head point. I want to play with that idea a little bit. I wrote in my book, actually, we have the same publisher. I wrote in my book that the thing that invalidates you when you're younger, because

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  35. It was never oh we're well done, son. You know you took part that's what really matters that they taught me taking part is completely and utterly irrelevant You win and ultimately sport is how I was brought up I was brought up on the foundations of sport the lessons of sport the winning the losing you know the highs the lows but always taught that winning was everything so and I'm a failed athlete You know, I think any kid growing up would love to be a sportsman now. I played cricket at a very good level but I was never good enough at anything so this is the next best thing But I think if you're not trying to win in life and win winning means something different to everybody success means something different to everybody Some people view success as being able to get their pay packet on a weekend be able to you know spend time with her family

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  36. You weren't, you know, I would come back from a match. Say I play cricket and he would go to me. Actually, my mum was the same. And he would say to me, how many runs do you get today, son? And I would say, oh, four. Ah, useless. Come on. Next time, knocking a fifty.

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  37. What 40? 41? 41 years old. What's made you that relentless at 41 years old to the point where you're pestering your colleagues at 3am in the morning? I don't know, really. I think when I did the book, it was like, it was quite a good counseling session with myself because I wasn't really great at school. I wasn't particularly a hard worker at school. I loved the pound note always. And when I wrote the book, I started writing about my childhood and what it was like growing up and how I was molded. And I think a lot of it comes down to the fact that I love to win. And I'm a... Why did you love to win? I don't know because with my dad, that's what we did. So when we played cricket, when we played football, when we played table tennis, when we sparred with each other. It was like For me grown up.

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  38. So, without further ado, I'm Stephen Bartlett, and this is the diary of a CEO. I hope nobody is listening, but if you are, then please keep this to yourself. You've done a ton of interviews, especially over the last couple of weeks. And there's this really consistent theme that I felt in all of the interviews I watched. I watched you at Cambridge, the high-performance podcast, loads of them. And then before we came started filming today, I had a chat with Frank, and he fully grasped on you. What he said to me, which was also consistent with these interviews, is that you are relentless. And he was telling me he's had some, I probably shouldn't say this, but he was telling me, I've started having this, is it night owl? Nightness. Nightness, because Eddie will text me in the middle of the night. And he went, I'll tell you one thing about Eddie. He is relentless.

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  39. Something's happened to them that's left them with no choice. Eddie Han is one of the most notorious sports promoters in the world. He's the king of boxing in this country. He is known for his no context on Twitter page, which I'm sure a lot of you have seen. But what I wanted to do when I sat down with Eddie Home was to get underneath, to get underneath the external sort of braggadocious, loud promoter side of him, and to find out even in the case of someone like Eddie, who is loud, who is successful, who is ambitious, who is a promoter, are the same things true for him that are true for you, the insecurities, the vulnerabilities, the mental health issues. And how much does he really understand himself? My conversation with Eddie was incredibly enlightening. Also, it wasn't that surprising

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  40. O my God Eddie Hearn What a guy there's very few people no I'm gonna change that I've never met someone as neurotically obsessed with success and with winning and with accomplishing things and with living a life in constant forward motion as my next guest Eddie Han. And it's remarkable because when you unpack the reasons for that obsession and that dedication to being more and achieving more, There's quite a fragile, vulnerable, insecure story. That's something I've noticed with a lot of my guests. And it often makes me think that the most successful amongst us aren't necessarily choosing to be.

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