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Emily Chang

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“I write about this in the book. I had 12 women in tech, most of them engineers over at my house for dinner about three weeks after that posted. You know, we sort of talked about how it was just so kind of ridiculous that so many people will surprise and then like the other half of the room was completely like, yeah, this happens every day. And you know, these women were exhausted. They're like tired of being the only woman in the room. They're tired of all of this emotional labor that they have to do to prove themselves.”
2018-02-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: How to fix Silicon Valley's 'Brotopia' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think because she had all of this documentation, she didn't write it in this kind of complainy way. You sort of read it and you were like, Pretty believable. And also ridiculous. I mean, the leather jacket's all.”
2018-02-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: How to fix Silicon Valley's 'Brotopia' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We don't have any out of time. They don't seem to have changed to make it. Like, I think we all get exhausted by sort of like the Trump administration. They just exhaust us after a while. And then let's fast forward before we get to the next section about today was Uber. It really did change. It was the beginning of the Me Too thing, not for Silicon Valley at least, not, of course, Harvey Weinstein was the issue in a very horrible situation. But here it was Uber, which seemed to be the quintessence of all of it.”
2018-02-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: How to fix Silicon Valley's 'Brotopia' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I do think there is this period of time, and I know these feelings are still lingering where you had companies saying, and VC firms saying, oh, we don't want to end up like Kleiner Perkins, we'll just never hire a woman. And you had women saying, oh, I don't want to end up like Ellen Powell, I just won't speak up. Right.”
2018-02-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: How to fix Silicon Valley's 'Brotopia' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I literally want to hit the men. I'm like, I'm so close to hitting you. I've got to leave because this is like you cannot, well, I might be taken. I'm like, probably not. Like, it's just an astonishing reaction that to me is the idea that you need to have other people in the room to make sure that you aren't falsely accused. It's falsely accused idea. I do think.”
2018-02-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: How to fix Silicon Valley's 'Brotopia' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“When we get back, we're going to talk a little bit about what that is and more from the book that you're talking about. But I want to go from where we went with Alan, which I think a lot of people felt disheartened, like that it didn't work out, that this culture won again, where we wrote a story, I remember saying maybe we can't hire as many women because we don't want to be in this culture, you know, and then there was the whole Mike Pensing of it. Maybe I can't. I literally heard that.”
2018-02-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: How to fix Silicon Valley's 'Brotopia' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It takes to stay there. That's a new theme I have. I said, you can get women in the door, or people call in the door, but then you don't do the things that keep them there or promote them or to think about their different needs and stuff like that, which is, you know, and then they'll fail when they're inside. And then you can say, look, they fail. It's a really interesting problem.”
2018-02-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: How to fix Silicon Valley's 'Brotopia' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Kleiner feels they lost the trial in the court of public opinion. And I think now a few years later, I think that is the case. When Ellen came out with her story because she was a first, a lot of people didn't believe her. Something else to be wrong with her. And I've done, I know you have as well, a lot of reporting on this and talked to a lot of people and some people who work there say, well, she wasn't that good. And others said, well, of course it's sexist.”
2018-02-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: How to fix Silicon Valley's 'Brotopia' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“They're no better than anybody else. No, they're not very good. Yeah. Yeah. They did put a lot of effort in the early days. I remember that. Like, it was interesting. They were the first to talk about it that I heard of. And I was surprised. I remember being like, oh, okay. All right. I hadn't thought of myself. Let's talk a little bit in this section. Ellen Powell to me was the first time when it was sort of voiced. I mean, everyone else sort of grumbled about it behind the scenes. Everyone endured these microaggressions. But that didn't turn out so well for women and for Alan for sure.”
2018-02-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: How to fix Silicon Valley's 'Brotopia' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“They lost focus on it, and the company was scaling and they were growing so fast, and they needed to fill the seats, and it was all about getting through the financial crisis. And suddenly their numbers are averaged. They're no better than anybody else. No, they're not.”
2018-02-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: How to fix Silicon Valley's 'Brotopia' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Exactly. It's about, you know, making money or the next board meeting or the product launch. And I talk about this with Google where Larry and Sergei actually were quite focused on hiring women in the early days and they got some amazing women who are the standout you know way more about this than I do who are standouts in Silicon Valley today and then”
2018-02-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: How to fix Silicon Valley's 'Brotopia' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Oh, I think change has to start from the top. This needs to be something that CEOs explicitly make a priority and communicate it to all levels of the organization so that everybody at the company also understands that it's a priority. Some people are doing this well in the last chapter. I focus on Slack and what Stuart Butterfield is doing there. You know, every time he tweets about this, they get a spike in inbound interest from diverse candidates. Wow. That was easy. It really has to come from the top and it has to start early. And if you're starting a company today, it's not too early to think about it because the longer you go on, the harder it will be to change.”
2018-02-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: How to fix Silicon Valley's 'Brotopia' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You can, like, that's my issue, like, which is interesting. So let's talk a little bit about in this book. So there's the directors, there's those. What role do founders and CEOs play, the management?”
2018-02-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: How to fix Silicon Valley's 'Brotopia' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It is interesting that they think of something like Twitter, which is really, I just don't think the executives there understood the impact of it on people's lives if they had it themselves. And, you know, was at the VR lab, which I think is going to be the same thing in VR with Jeremy Balenson, who's great, but he has the thing where it's about empathy and you become a black kid who then becomes a black adult in this scenario where there's a lot of really scenarios that are negative negative scenarios. And what was interesting was like I'm like, I like this. I like the idea of it. But how can you put a lifetime of living under this? Like, because women have a lifetime of microaggressions that they know and that men don't have. And so that to me was like, can you inject someone while they're watching their VR with the fear that you might have or worry when a police officer shows up or when you're a gay person that you might be beaten? And it was like, I said, I don't.”
2018-02-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: How to fix Silicon Valley's 'Brotopia' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You're looking over your back in the real world just as you probably do online as a woman online. Women get the most extreme forms of online harassment. Men get harassed too, but it is just not the same.”
2018-02-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: How to fix Silicon Valley's 'Brotopia' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Be done with Twitter Well, one of the things that I'm absolutely certain of the Me Too stuff, and we'll get to that in the next section, is would not have, it's not lost on me that women at the New York Times and a gay man broke those stories because they understand that. They can feel it. They felt themselves in other aspects. So they are very much more attuned to the problem and much more able to be empathetic to as reporters, which is interesting. And when you think about it, I have two sons, and I was literally walking the other day, and I looked behind, I kept looking behind me and looking behind me because it was dark.”
2018-02-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: How to fix Silicon Valley's 'Brotopia' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Absolutely. I completely agree. One woman, and I'm glad you mentioned Twitter because I had a fascinating conversation with Ev Williams about online harassment and trolling. And he said that he thinks if there had been more women on the early team.”
2018-02-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: How to fix Silicon Valley's 'Brotopia' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And I just was like pointing out the same thing with the board of Twitter. I gave them a hard time for that for a long time. And then I did a Mena Know Women Web 2.0 boards. That to me is the, like, and I got a call from, I remember Andrew Mason, and he was, I think I've talked about this before, that he was like, well, can you help me find women? I'm like, no, you think I have binders of fucking women? Like, are you crazy? Like, that one, I know you can find qualified women in people. I'm pretty certain there's business people all over the map that you can find very easily. And so it was sort of interesting, and I know there's all these groups that are coming together to try to push people, but it really isn't hard in that level. That to me is like the lowest hanging fruit of directors. And that's where a lot of that happens, I think.”
2018-02-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: How to fix Silicon Valley's 'Brotopia' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Right, and we'll get to that about Uber and other companies. I mean, so there's that. And then directors is another thing, I think. That to me is the worst because I remember when I wrote a, years ago, I wrote a story called The Men and No Women of Facebook, and I just put their pictures up and made fun of that. Like, I was like, look, and Mark, one of them called me. He was like, I'm so hurt. I'm like, well, it's your pictures. It's not mine.”
2018-02-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: How to fix Silicon Valley's 'Brotopia' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Right, exactly. I think when it comes to VCs, she thinks LPs don't care. You know, she says in the book LPs are 100% focused on returns. They're not focused on diversity. And maybe they should be. She thinks that venture capitalists are looking for ideas that appeal to them, not necessarily ideals that appeal to them. Everybody, and that bad behavior has been normalized and tolerated for far too long.”
2018-02-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: How to fix Silicon Valley's 'Brotopia' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Look, I mean, if you look at the hard numbers, I mean, women entrepreneurs get 2% of venture funding. People want to fund companies that they're passionate about. And I think often ideas that are catered towards women suffer. I interviewed Katrina Lake for the book who pitched our company to 50 investors before one said yet. And suffered from sexual harassment and suffered from sexual harassment. And look, she just took her company public. Mostly did it on her own. I mean, if that's not an example.”
2018-02-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: How to fix Silicon Valley's 'Brotopia' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Right, repeat. It's the same thing on so many issues like that. I think it's interesting is when you think of gay rights, it's the same thing. There was a version of a gay man or a gay woman who was not like reality. And of course it perpetuated an idea around it, which was interesting. So pipelines one. One is, I think venture capitalists, like that they don't fund, like they just look like themselves. They want to grow out with the others and do that. Talk about that.”
2018-02-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: How to fix Silicon Valley's 'Brotopia' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I argue in the book that the tech industry created the pipeline problem by fostering this sort of narrow idea of who could do this job, you know, it wasn't movies and TV. It started with the tech industry. And then movies and TV and parents and teachers started repeating.”
2018-02-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: How to fix Silicon Valley's 'Brotopia' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Understand people to be doing To understand users are 50 50, which is really interesting. It's not like all only nerds use iPhones. So that to me is what's the most interesting part. It also creates a sort of crap and crap out mentality. So starts, you have the pipeline issues, but that's what they tend to point to all the time, why they can't do it. I do not believe that is necessarily the. Biggest problem. I argue in the book.”
2018-02-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: How to fix Silicon Valley's 'Brotopia' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah If a girl is good at math or programming, people are like, oh my God, you're so good. That's so unusual. Right, right, right. It doesn't just leave out girls. I think that's the myth is that it doesn't just leave out girls, it leaves out different kinds of people, like different types of people, that you're not that and therefore you can't be that.”
2018-02-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: How to fix Silicon Valley's 'Brotopia' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, the stereotype's already entrenched by them. Yeah. And so the idea of who can do this job. It's like if a girl is good at math or programming, people are like, oh my God, you're so good. That's so unusual. And it can actually create this feeling of, oh, wait, maybe I'm not supposed to be here. Right.”
2018-02-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: How to fix Silicon Valley's 'Brotopia' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Right. This is, you know, I use, I say this all the time the meritocracy is a meritocracy. You coined the word meritocracy, but it's like they look at each other, but it can happen in any industry like that. This is what a Hollywood producer looks like. This is what a blank looks like. And so we get into that kind of mindset. And often it just perpetuates. And especially among VCs, I think it starts at VCs myself. I think the pipeline argument is...”
2018-02-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: How to fix Silicon Valley's 'Brotopia' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But unfortunately, they took the wrong lesson and they decided that risk taking Broy types were, you know, People that they should be trying to fund. And so instead of thinking, oh, we should look for people with a wider diversity of backgrounds, which Steve Jobs embody, instead it just perpetuated a whole new stereotype.”
2018-02-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: How to fix Silicon Valley's 'Brotopia' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And what's interesting about Steve Jobs is he was a completely different kind of tech superstar. And the industry could have taken this lesson from that. Let's look for people who are different than what we thought.”
2018-02-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: How to fix Silicon Valley's 'Brotopia' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Or that men are better in society because that whole nerd mentality like here's the nerd. And sometimes, you know, when I was talking to someone, I'm not going to say who it was, but someone who has some influence in the media. And they were like, well, you know, all those guys didn't have dates at prompts. I'm like, that is such bullshit. That is like, you're going to excuse their misogynist behavior because they didn't get a date at the prom like that is so reductive and like simplistic. And that's, you know, but it did perpetuate this idea of nerds and they're under siege and they had bad, you know, and of course you have like a Bill Gates who looks like that. You know, I mean, there's, but then you have a Steve Jobs who doesn't, like who doesn't manifest that.”
2018-02-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: How to fix Silicon Valley's 'Brotopia' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“To explain what he believes is the root of this inequity. And by the way, there's no evidence to suggest that people who don't like people are better at computers than people who do, or that men are better than society.”
2018-02-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: How to fix Silicon Valley's 'Brotopia' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Better than people. And it perpetuated this idea that the only people who could do this job are antisocial male nerds. Because if you're looking for antisocial people, the research tells us that that favors men over women. And these tests Hugely influential, and they were used by tech companies for decades, and it perpetuated this idea that, you know, antisocial male nerds are good at this job.”
2018-02-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: How to fix Silicon Valley's 'Brotopia' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And if you go back even further in the 40s and 50s, actually men, to be fair, focused on hardware, but women were well represented among software programmers and educated women were actually encouraged to study math. And so you have these very influential women, Grace Hopper, who worked on the Mark I computer at Harvard, women who were really influential at NASA, the women who were portrayed in hidden figures. And then in the 1960s, the industry was exploding and they couldn't find enough people to fill open jobs. And so a company called SDC, a software company at the time, hired these two psychologists, William Cannon and Dallas Perry, to develop a personality test to find the best programmers. And what they determined by interviewing about 1,400 programmers, 1200 of whom were men, is that”
2018-02-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: How to fix Silicon Valley's 'Brotopia' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That didn't feel good, which is interesting because early in a lot of this culture there were a lot of women at Apple, for example, there were quite a few important women engineers there at some other places there were.”
2018-02-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: How to fix Silicon Valley's 'Brotopia' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“In the book, I open with an origin point. In a USC computer lab where a group of engineers were looking for a photo to test their image processing algorithm and it just so happened there was a copy of Playboy hanging around in the lab because one of the students brought it in and was enjoying the magazine and the head researcher said oh I bet there's some nice photos in there and they chose the one that was in the center fold and that ended up becoming the most popular photo used in imaging processing to this day from the teams that are working on the iPhone to Google Images you show them this picture they're like oh yeah I know I know her some people don't know that she's a naked woman because the photo that survived is this cropped headshot but she's looking suggestively over her bare shoulder and to men, this is sort of an amusing historical footnote, but to women.”
2018-02-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: How to fix Silicon Valley's 'Brotopia' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And I think the momentum and the willingness to believe women changed, and that also allowed women to be more brave and tell their stories. I think in Silicon Valley, a big turning point was the Justin Calbeck story published by the Information and Ninian Wang, one of the women who spoke up who worked so hard to get women to speak on the record in order to get that story published. And huge hats off to read Albergotti and the entire team there. I can say that Justin Colbeck was someone that I'd heard about for a long time and I was working so hard to try to tell that story. And it was like an open secret. But no one wanted to talk about it.”
2018-02-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: How to fix Silicon Valley's 'Brotopia' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You know, a lot of people weren't on her side. And I think that's changed over the last few years. And sort of this realization that we wouldn't be here. People wouldn't be telling these stories if Ellen hadn't told hers, 100%.”
2018-02-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: How to fix Silicon Valley's 'Brotopia' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Not just women. I always think about it because everyone gets like we shouldn't lower our standards. Those kind of things, those same arguments. And I'm always like, well, your standards weren't pretty high when you hired those six guys who ran the company into a wall and they give it a pass. And, you know, I think about things like, you know, like Amazon and Roy Price is the first outing of the investigation didn't eliminate him. The second one after it became public did. What happened in the first one? You know what I mean? It's sort of a pass”
2018-02-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: How to fix Silicon Valley's 'Brotopia' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“If you think about Susan Fowler, I mean, this is a woman who was proposition for sex by her manager on her first day on the job. She reports it immediately and is told by human resources that he's a high performer, so we're just going to let it slide. And I think, you know, the so-called brilliant jerks have just been given a pass for far too long. That's not the only problem. But I think that is one of them. And a lot of business gets done in Silicon Valley outside.”
2018-02-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: How to fix Silicon Valley's 'Brotopia' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I know the title makes a statement, and to me, it perfectly encapsulates this idea of Silicon Valley as a modern utopia where anyone can change the world or make their own rules if they're a man. But it's incomparably harder if you're a woman. And, you know, I didn't really know for sure what it would become. And as you know, the landscape has changed dramatically since I started writing this two years ago. And, you know, at first I just wanted to sort of figure out how do we get here, what happened, and I uncovered a lot of really interesting things about what was going on in the 60s and 70s. And then in the middle of the process,”
2018-02-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: How to fix Silicon Valley's 'Brotopia' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Because it was so horrible Two years ago. And so, what was the goal here? I mean, was it just focused on just bro culture? Because people don't like the word bro too. Let's talk about that. That's not fair. And I'm like, oh, I think it's pretty fair to me.”
2018-02-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: How to fix Silicon Valley's 'Brotopia' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, that happened two months before I sort of had this idea, and I was talking to friends who've written books over dinner, and they said, and they actually are outside Silicon Valley. And they said, I think that would be a great book. And it just so happens that my editor worked in publishing for a long time. And then she worked at a tech company for two years and left because it was so horrible and went back to publishing. And she was looking for years for someone to write a book like this. And so we fortuitously connected and that's when I started two years ago.”
2018-02-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: How to fix Silicon Valley's 'Brotopia' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Their own numbers. Yeah, yeah. I think about it all the time. I think it's a question of making, I was asked the other day about it and I was like, I think it's a question of making it a priority and putting it from number 14 on your list to number three or number two. Or number one.”
2018-02-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: How to fix Silicon Valley's 'Brotopia' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think also one of the most important things is to look at your own data. I think some people, oh, you know, I interviewed a ton of women. But okay, let's count them. And how many women did you interview compared to men? I think a lot of people would be surprised if they looked at their own numbers. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.”
2018-02-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: How to fix Silicon Valley's 'Brotopia' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Pushing myself to work harder, to think harder, and to stop immediately, you know, past the first four, first four companies. Like, what is interesting? Who is qualified? Who would be a good person? And it's hard. I'm not saying it's not hard. It's just the excuses are kind of at certain levels, board of directors, venture capitalists, there's plenty of women and people of color to fill those spots for sure.”
2018-02-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: How to fix Silicon Valley's 'Brotopia' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And he Probably went back and were like, let's find there's a woman stat. Right, no, I get that. I think what's interesting look, on one hand, you have to say it is harder because there's fewer because I book code conferences all the time and you've been involved in Bloomberg. And last year we got a 50-50. I was thrilled. Congratulations. So important. And I wasn't like, I'm not lowering my standards. I just, it's hard to harder to find them. And so this year, same thing, and I'm literally, but I'm spending an enormous amount of my time trying to. And I may not totally succeed. I may not get to the numbers I want. I may, I definitely don't get there with people of color, but I do like this recent TV thing I'm doing. I'm thinking of it all the time. And I'm not, I want to, what's interesting is I spend a lot of time.”
2018-02-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: How to fix Silicon Valley's 'Brotopia' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Look, I think they missed a lot. I think this industry has missed out on a lot of promising women. And what I realized in the reaction to that was this has just been festering for too long. Yeah, exactly. And it's about time to figure out how we got this interview was a big deal.”
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“Or that one woman is either women are not qualified to do technology or You're not qualified to find them. It's always the thing we've had all this success. I'm like, but what did you miss? Like, that's always my feeling. It's like, how do you know that you didn't miss the woman who was going to create a cure for cancer?”
2018-02-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: How to fix Silicon Valley's 'Brotopia' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“There was a moment, and I was interviewing Mike Moritz for Studio 1.0. Goal of the interview was to talk about a book he had coming out called Leading and to talk about the breadth and depth of his career. And this is One of, if not the most prominent, venture capitalists in the world, chairman of Sequoia Capital. And at the time, Sequoia had no female investing partners in the United States. And I said, What is your responsibility to hire women? And he said, you know, we take this very seriously. I think we're blind to gender, race, ethnicity, and we're looking very hard. And I said, well, are you looking hard enough? And he said, We're looking very hard, but what we're not prepared to do is to lower our standards.”
2018-02-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: How to fix Silicon Valley's 'Brotopia' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That such a progressive industry had such grave inequality. I mean, you know, women make up 25% of computing jobs, 18% of computer science bachelor's degrees, 7% of VC investors, women-led companies get 2%. Venture funding. And I just decided why not try to figure mostly guys, like, right?”
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