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Esther Perel

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  1. and by the code by the drinks you know exactly which world you were traveling in and how you had to behave and how much you could show that side of you versus the other side of you you know and there was a sense i think maybe more than anything when you grew up in that kind of a community you you grew up with the notion of impermanence that what is today could disappear any moment i think that's probably one of the strongest experiences you don't ever think that there is a notion of you know what is now will be there tomorrow you'd never know and so you learn to adapt to that notion of impermanence of insecurity if you want and my parents were born vivant you know they loved life they didn't survive for nothing they were going to enjoy at best and as i have often said they understood the erotic as an antidote to death as in they knew how to keep them

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  2. In this very popular neighborhood, lower middle class neighborhood, and where we spoke actually not even just Flemish, but we spoke dialect Flemish from the street, like from the hood The equivalent of the hood, basically. And I would straddle back and forth. One of the ways I can describe it is my father when he turned 50 had two birthday parties. One birthday party was for his Jewish survivor friends that took place in Yiddish and in Polish and with a lot of vodka. And one birthday party was with his Flemish friends. And that was in dialect and with a lot of beer.

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  3. Was so ever present. We spoke Yiddish, German, Polish, French, and Flemish in my home, depending on the subject matter we changed and depending on who was speaking to whom, the language changed, but there were five vibrant interchangeable languages going on the whole time. And if you can imagine that a language is a door to a world, then you can imagine how many worlds were coexisting at the same time that had nothing to do with each other, actually. I grew up above the store because most of the Jews of Antwerp actually are in the diamond business. My family was among the 2% that were not. And so they had clothing stores and I grew up in the neighborhood where they were two Jewish families. So it's like the daily store with the foreigner in the neighborhood, you know, and you know who they are, the two foreigners, and they have an accent and they look different and the whole thing. And I lived above the store.

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  4. For them. So they came with nothing. They were legal refugees for three months who were meant to continue from there to other countries where they had been given refugee status. But they chose not to leave. And so they stayed for another five years as illegal refugees in Belgium, which is very telling for me right now with what's going on in our country here. I am born later. So when I am born in 1958, they already found a way to legalize themselves to become a Belgian citizen. And I grew up in a different environment, but I am growing up in a community of 20,000 Jews that are all Holocaust survivors. That's basically all we knew in the Jewish community. Of course, there was the larger Belgian community around. And, you know, you saw numbers, you asked, why don't we have grandparents? You asked, what are these numbers? It came with mother's milk is the best way I could say it.

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  5. So interesting that we're starting from there. So, I think that if this was a man by Primo Levi is one of the most powerful books one ought to read. I think it's a unique, unique testament. So it's very simple. There were 60,000 Jews in Belgium before the war. The vast majority of them were decimated throughout the war and in camps. And so after the war, a group of Eastern European Jews basically came to Belgium through all kinds of means. That's kind of where they arrived. And my parents who were both the sole survivors of their entire family, which means 200 people lost, I guess, on every side. They were both the youngest in their families. My mother was in the camps from 18 to 22 and my father from 25 to 31 actually because the war started very early.

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  6. So I grew up in Antwerp, in Belgium mostly. Antwerp is the Flemish part of Belgium, and I was there till I finished high school. I grew up with, I have a big brother who is 12 years older than me, so I was the young girl and my parent. From Belgium, I moved to Jerusalem and I studied at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem. And I lived there for almost six years. And then I came rich, Massachusetts to finish my master's degree. And I really thought I was coming for one year to America, but that one year became two years in Cambridge. And then after that, I came to New York and I thought I would do that for one year because I wanted to have the New York experience. And I never used my return ticket. And here I am.

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