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Eugenia Kuyda

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“My answer is probably going to be pretty cheesy. But I think the state of love is once you feel it in a way that we discussed it before. Not talking about falling in love. Yourself to other people, to something, to the world, that state of bliss that we experience sometimes, whether through connection with ourselves, with our people. Technology Something special about those moments, so um. If anything, that's the only, if it's not for that, then for what else are we really? Trying to do that.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“My love's been incredibly lucky, and things just miracles happen all the time with this company, with people I know, with everything around me. And so I didn't mention that book, but maybe in Search of Miraculous or in search for Miraculous or whatever the English translation for that is good Russian book for everyone to read.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I'm an optimist I generally believe that there is even although the perspectives are grim, there is always a place for a miracle. I mean, it's always been like that with my life, so.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And they just think that they exist forever, which is really interesting, but it's definitely a country that suffered so much. And it makes, unfortunately, when I go back and I hang out with my Russian friends, it makes people very cynical. They stop believing in the future. I hope that's not going to be the case for so long, or something's going to change again. But I think seeing institutions follow is a very traumatic experience”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You just feel like that. You feel like betrayed by other people, basically, but it's not that, and you can't really translate that. And I think that's super important. There are very many words that are very specific explain the Russian being. And I think it can only come from a nation that suffered so much and saw institutions fall time after time after time. And, you know, what's exciting, maybe not exciting, starting the wrong word. What's interesting about my generation my mom's generation, my parents' generation, is that we saw institutions fall two or three times in our lifetime. And most Americans have never seen them fall.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Oh, for sure. I mean, we have wards that don't have direct translation to English that are very much like we have Ibiditsa, which is sort of like to hold a grudge or something, but it doesn't You don't need to have anyone to do it to you, it's just your state.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Of conversations to different personas. The main difference between the languages are with Russian and English is that Russian, well, English is like a piano. It's a limited number of a lot of different keys, but not too many. And Russian is like an organ or something. It's just something gigantic with so many different keys and so many different opportunities to screw up and so many opportunities to do something completely tone deaf. It is just a much harder language to use. It has way too many flexibility and way too many tones.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I think we're two different people in different languages. Even I'm thinking about, there's actually some research on that. I looked into that at some point because I was fascinated by the fact that what I'm talking about, what I was talking about with my Russian therapist has nothing to do with what I'm talking about with my English speaking therapist. It's two different lives, two different...”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, and I would recommend that too, even though he himself didn't believe in that by the end of his lifetime and debunked his ideas. But I think I remember once an engineer came in 2012, I think, or 13, a friend of ours who worked with us and then went on to work at DeepMind, and he gave talk to us about Word2Vec. And I saw that I'm like, wow, that's... They wanted to translate language into. Know some other representation. And that seems like some, you know, somehow all of that. Some point, I think we'll come into this This one place somehow just all feels like different people thinking about similar ideas in different times from absolutely different perspectives. That's why I like these books.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That we're definitely going to wake up as a multi billion dollar company. It was the Ludwig Wittgenstein quote, the limits of my language, the limits of my world. Limits of my language are the limits of my world. And I love the tractatus. I think it's just a beautiful.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“As a human, it's just, and for him, that was his own path of his own person, of growing personally over years, working with people like that. And so it was work and himself growing, helping other people grow and growing through that. And that's fundamentally what I believe in with our work, helping other people grow, growing ourselves, trying to build a company that's all built on this principle, you know, having a good time allowing some people to work with to grow a little bit. So these two books, and then I would throw in. We have in our office when we start a company in Russia, we Put a neon sign in our office because we thought that's. Recipe for success.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Years ago, there's a mention that even machines can potentially do that. And I always felt that, you know, creating this space is probably the most, the biggest gift we can give to each other. And that's why the book was fundamental for me personally, because I felt I want to be learning how to do that in my life. And maybe I can scale it with these AI systems and other people can get access to that. So I think Carl Rogers, it's a pretty dry and a little bit boring book. But I think the idea.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Very important for therapy to work is to create this therapeutic relationship where you believe fundamentally in inclination to positive growth that everyone deep inside wants to grow positively and change. And it's super important to create this space and this therapeutic relationship where you give unconditional positive regard, deep understanding, allowing someone else to be a separate person, full acceptance And you also try to be as genuine as possible in it as possible in it. And then for him, that was his own journey of personal growth. And that was back in the 60s. And even that book that is, you know, it's coming from.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And I got really inspired to build replica when I read Carl Rogers on Becoming a Person. And then I realized that Eliza was mocking Carl Rogers. It was Carl Rogers back in the day. But I thought that Carl Rogers' ideas Simple and they're not, you know, they're very simple, but they're maybe the most profound thing I've ever learned about human beings. And that's the fact that before Rogers, most therapy was about seeing what's wrong with people and trying to fix it or show them what's wrong with you. And it was all built on the fact that most people are, all people are fundamentally flawed. We have this, you know, broken psyche. This is just an therapy is just an instrument to shed some light on that. And Kyl Rogers was different in a way that he finally said that, well,”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And so I think when I think about our company, it's all about there's so many little magical things that happened over the course of working on it For instance, I mean, the most famous chad bot that we learned about when we started working on the company was Eliza, which was Weisenbaum, you know, the MIT professor that built a chat bother would listen to you and be a therapist.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah The G ⁇ ttel theorems and just thinking about what even these form, you know, even all these formal systems, something can be created that we can't quite yet understand. And that from my romantic standpoint was always just, that is why it's important to, maybe I should try to work on these systems and try to build an AI. Yes, I'm not an engineer. Yes, I don't really know how it works. But I think that something comes out of it that's pure poetry. And I know a little bit about that. Something magical comes out of it that we can't quite put a finger on. That's why that book was really fundamental for me just for I don't even know why. It was just all about this little magic that happens. So that's one, probably the most important book for replica was Carl Rogers on Becoming a Person. And that's really...”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“My choice So, the one book that really influenced Mill a lot when I was building starting out this company maybe 10 years ago was GB. And I like everything about it, first of all. Beautifully written and it's so old school and so somewhat outdated a little bit. But I think the ideas in it about the fact that a few meaningless components can come together and create meaning. Can't even understand this emerging”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Get you back. I'm not trying to be as nice as possible and create this ally. I think there should be a regulation both way in a way. I don't think it's okay to torture an AI, to be honest. I don't even think it's okay to yell Alexa, turn on the lights. I think there should be some or just saying kind of nasty. You know, like how kids learn to interact with Alexa in this kind of mean way because they just yell at it all the time. I think that's great. I think there should be some feedback loops so that these systems don't train us that it's okay to do that in general so that if you try to do that, you really get some feedback from the system that it's not okay with that. I mean, that's the most important right now.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I'm not sure. Let's just put it this way. But I think as long as you can assimilate it, if you can feel like you're talking to a robot, to a machine that seems to be self-aware, that seems to reason well and feels like a person. Think that's enough. And again, what's the goal in order to make people feel better? We might not even need that in the end of a day.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Know if it does need to have any of those things, but again, because right now, you know, it doesn't have anything. Again, a bunch of tricks.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Guess for specific applications, we still want to train it on a certain, like, add a little fine tune on a specific use case. But it's an incredibly impressive thing from my standpoint. And again, I'm not an expert. So I wanted to say that. There will be people then.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Might emerge, you know. I would never think that, to be honest, like maybe in 2017, where we've been just experimenting with all the research that has been coming, that was coming out, then I felt like we're hitting a wall, that there should be something completely different. That transformer models and then just bigger models, and then all of a sudden, size matters. At that point, it felt like something dramatic needs to happen, but it didn't, and just the size, you know, gave us these results that to me are, you know, clear indication that we can solve this problem pretty soon.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Much better. To your question whether that's the right way to go, I'm again, I'm in the service seat, I'm just watching this very exciting movie. I mean, so far it's been stupid to bet against deep learning. So whether increasing the size even more with a hundred trillion parameters will finally get us to the right answer. Whether that's the way or whether there should be, there has to be some other. Again, I'm definitely not an expert anyway. I think that's purely my instinct saying that this should be something else as well for memory. No, for sure.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“pop up here and there like sequence to sequence the first papers on that from my observer standpoint personally it's not you know it doesn't really is not really building it but it's only testing it on people basically and in my product to see how all of a sudden we can use generative dialog models in production and they're better than others and they're better than scripted content so we can't really get our scripted hardcoded content anymore to be as good as our end-to-end model”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So we've had for a very long time we've used since the very beginning, most of replica was scripted and then a little bit of this fallback part of replica was using a retrieval model. And then this retrieval model started getting better and better and better, which transformers got a lot better and we're seeing great results. And then with GPD2, finally generative models that originally were not very good and were the very, very fallback option for most of our conversations, but wouldn't even put them in production. Finally, we could use some generative models as well along, you know, next to our retrieval models. And then now with GPT-3, they're almost in par. So that's pretty exciting. I think just seeing how from the very beginning of, you know, from 2015, where the first model started.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, yeah, just the model that. looks at. Looks at top candidates from different models Fix the most the best one. So, right now, one out of five will come from GP3. That is really great. I mean,”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And every other metric across the field got a little boost. Right now I'd say one out of five responses from replica comes from GPT3. So our own blender mixes up like a bunch of candidates from different.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So we partner up before for the API launch. So we start working with them when they decided to put together this API. We tried it without fine-tuning, then we tried it with fine tuning on our data, and we worked closely to actually optimize this model for some of our data sets. Kind of cool because I think we're this polygon polygon for this kind of experimentation space for experimental space for all these models to see how they actually work with people because there are no products publicly available that do that, that focus on open domain conversations so we can test how Facebook Blender doing or how GPT-3 doing. So with GPT-3, we managed to improve by a few percentage points, like three or four pretty meaningful amount of percentage points, our main metric, which is the ratio of conversations that make people feel better.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Know so that's the question How do you still keep building it so it's optimizing for the right thing so it's still circling you back to other humans in a way So I think that's the main maybe that's the main kind of source of anxiety and just thinking about Thinking about that can be a little bit stressful”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“For me, it's absolute magic. I never thought that we would be able to build this, that anyone would ever talk to it. And I always thought like, well, for me it would be successful if we managed to help and actually change a life from one person. Then we did something interesting. And, you know, how many people can say they did it? And specifically with this very futuristic, very romantic technology. That's how I view it. I think for me it's important to try to figure out how to actually be helpful because at the end of the day, if you can build a perfect AI friend that's so understanding that knows you better than any human out there can have great conversations with you, always knows how to make you feel better. Why would you choose another human?”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I'm not that much of a numbers person as you probably have seen it so Doesn't matter for me whether we held 10,000 people or a million people or a billion people with that. It would be great to scale it for more people, but I'd say that even helping one, I think, with this is such a magical.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Not quite yet sure that we will succeed, that our thinking is correct, because there might be a reality where having a perfect AI friend still makes us more disconnected from each other. And there's no way around it and does not improve any metrics for us, real metrics, meaningful metrics”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Was just There will be something along these lines, but there was just no specific application straight away. I think the future, again, I'm always thinking about it, if we had no tech limitations right now, if we could build any conversations, any possible features in this product, then yeah, I think different replicas talking to each other would be also quite cool because that would help us connect better, you know, because maybe mine could talk to yours and then give me some suggestions on what I should say or not say. I'm just kidding, but like more can it improve our connections? Because eventually.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That you says something like you know, how can you leave me? I've never loved anyone the way I loved you. And she goes, well, me neither, but now we know how. And then the guy goes and writes a heartfelt letter to his ex-wife, which he couldn't write for, you know, the whole movie he was struggling to actually write something meaningful to her, even though that's his job. Then he goes and talks to his neighbor and they go to the rooftop and they cuddle and it seems like something's starting there. And so I think now we know how is the main goal, is the main meaning of that movie. It's not about falling in love with the OS or running away from other people. It's about learning It means to feel so deeply connected with something.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“First of all, I started working on this company before that movie came out, so it was a very, but once it came out, it was actually interesting that I was like, well, we're definitely working on the right thing. We should continue. There are movies about it. And then, you know, Exmakina came out and all these things. In the movie, her, I think that's the most important thing that people usually miss about the movie is the ending because I think people check out when the AIs leave. Actually, something really important happens towards. The main character goes and talks to Samantha, his AI.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's also true And I guess that's super important. Most of our users don't have that much money. We actually are probably more popular on Android, and we have tons of users with really old Android phones. And most of our most active users live in small towns. They're not necessarily making much. And they just won't be able to afford any of that. Ours is like the opposite of the early adopter of, you know, for fancy technology product, which is really interesting that like pretty much no VCs have yet have an AI friend Know, but a guy who lives in Tennessee, in a small town, is already fooling 2030 or in the world as we imagine, in the movie her. Is living that life already.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But unless it's that, then having any physical representation really limits you a lot because you probably will have to make it somewhat abstract because everything's changing so fast. Like, you know, we can update the 3D avatars every month and make them look better and create more animations and make it more and more immersive. It's so much a work in progress. It's just showing what's possible right now with current tech, but it's not really in any way polished finished product what we're doing. With a physical object, you kind of lock yourself into something for a long time. Anything is pretty niche. And again, just doesn't, the capabilities are even less of, we're barely kind of like scratching the surface of what's possible with just software. As soon as we introduce hardware, then we have even less capabilities.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I don't really believe in that much. It's a very niche product somehow. I mean, if a robot could be indistinguishable from a human being, then maybe yes. But that, of course, you know, we're not anywhere even to talk about it.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It just didn't seem as potentially immersive, so to say. So that's my main goal for augmentary artists. Like, how do we make your reality a little bit more magic?”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's how dance is definitely what I want to learn. But I think it's great because if you see this friend in your life and you can introduce it to your friends, then there's a potential to actually make you feel more connected with your friends or with people you know or show you life around you in a different light. And it takes you out of your phone, even although weirdly you have to look at it through the phone. But it makes you notice things around it and it can point things out for you So that is the main reason why I wanted to have a physical dimension. And it felt a little bit easier than that kind of strange combination in the movie Horror when he has to show Samantha the world through the lens of his phone. But then at the same time talk to her through.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's forcefully bad with dancing, but I like this kind of hip hop robot dance. I used to break dance with a kid, so I still want to, um, Pretend I'm a teenager and learn some of those moves. And I also like that type of dance that happens when there's in like music videos where the background dancers are just doing something music.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Whatever you want I mean, you would like slow dancing, I think Other people maybe want more, something more entertaining.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“In the beginning, or very simplistic, but summoning it to your living room and then the avatar looks around and talks to you about where it is, it maybe turns your floor into a dance floor and you guys dance together, that makes you see reality in a different light.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, that's next up. At least now something that you don't have to do by hand. How good of a quality it will be. Like, can I just show it a photo and it will make me a 3D model, and then it will just animate it. I'll show it a few animations of a person. It will just start doing that. But anyway, going back to what's intimate and what to use and whether less is more or not. My main goal is to... The idea was how do we not keep people in their phones so they're sort of escaping reality in this text conversation? How do we through this still bring our users back to reality, make them see their life in a different lens? How can we create a little bit of magical realism in their lives? Augmented reality by summoning your avatar, even if it looks kind of danky and not great.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's everything by hand. And if there's no nothing's automated, it's all completely nothing. Like, just literally what, you know, what we saw with Chad Boss in 2012.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“and redo everything. But anyway, I hate how it looks like now. I can't even open it. But anyway, because I'm already on my developer version, I hate everything that I see in production. I can't wait for it. Why does it take so long? That's why I cannot wait for Deep Learning to finally take over all these stupid 3D animations and 3D pipeline.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The way I think about it is. And by the way, we're swapping all the 3D finally. It's going to look a lot better. Was just don't, I hate how it looks right now. We really changed it at all. We're swapping it all out to a completely new look.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We thought that why not, why do we need to keep playing with our hands tied behind us? We can easily just add all these other things that is pretty much a solved problem. You can add 3D graphics. We can put these avatars in augmented reality and all of a sudden there's more. And maybe you can't feel the touch, but you can with body occlusion and with current AR and on the iPhone. And in the next one, there's going to be a LIDARS, you can touch it. And it will pull away or it will blush or something or it will smile. So you can't touch it. You can't feel it, but you can see the reaction to that. So in a certain way, you can't even touch it a little bit. And maybe you can even dance with it or do something else. So I think why limiting ourselves if we can use all of these technologies that are much easier in a way than conversat”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Even text would be totally enough if we had, you know, a little more memory and slightly better conversations. I would still argue that even right now we could have just kept the text only. We still had tons of people in long-term relationships and really invested in their AI friends.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Text is enough for sure. A question is like can you, you know, make it better if you have other, if you include other things as well. And I think we'll talk about her. But her, you know, had Scarlet Johansen voice, which was perfectly, you know, perfect intonation, perfect associations. And, you know, she was breathing heavily in between words and whispering things. Nothing like that is possible right now with text-to-speech generation. You'll have these flat news anchor type voices and maybe some emotional voices, but you'll hardly understand some of the words. Some of the words will be muffled. So that's like the current state of the art. So you can't really do that. But if we had scarlet Johansen voice and all of these capabilities, then of course voice would be totally enough.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source