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Eugenia Kuyda

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first: 2020-09-05
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“Application, yeah, the idea that was like this perfect universal interface to anything. When I looked at that, it just made me very perplexed because I didn't think I didn't understand how that would work because I think we tried most of that. And none of those things worked. And then again.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And we were very perplexed because people started coming up with companies that I think we tried most of those chatbots already and there were like no users. But still people were coming up with a chatbot that would tell you whether and bring you news and this and that and we couldn't understand whether we were just didn't execute well enough or people are Not really, people are confused and are going to find out the truth that people don't need chat bots like that.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“With chatbots. Somewhere in 2016 or end of 15, people started thinking that's really the future. That's the new apps will be Chadbots.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Without a product in mind, we added like a demo chatbot that would recommend you restaurants and talk to you about restaurants just to show something simple to people that people could relate to and could try out and see whether it works or not. But we didn't have a product in mind yet. We thought we would try a bunch of chatbots and figure out our consumer application. And we sort of remembered that we wanted to build that kind of friend, that sort of connection that we saw in the very beginning. But then we got to Y Combinator and moved to San Francisco and forgot about it, you know, everything. Then it was just this constant grind. How do we get funding? How do we get this? You know, investors were like just focus on one thing, just get it out there. So somehow we started building a restaurant recommendation chatbot for real for a little bit, not for too long. And then we tried building 40, 50 different chatbots. And then all of a sudden we wake up and everyone is upset.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I'm thinking about a lot all the time. I do think about all the time. Think when we were looking, so we started the company, we just decided to build a conversational tech. We thought, well, there's nothing for us to build this chatbot that we want to build. So let's just first focus on building some tech, building the tech side of things.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“What is it exactly that we're getting from talking all day long with other humans? I mean, we're definitely not just trying to be tricked. Or it's not just enough to know it's a human, it's something we're getting there. Can we measure it? And can we put the computer to the same measurement and see whether you can talk to a computer and get the same results?”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“There was this one book The Most Human Human by Brian Christensen that really was important for me to read back in the day because he was on the human side, he was on one of the, he was taking part in the loan repair prize, but not as a human who's not a jury, but who's pretending to be, who's basically, you have to tell a computer from a human and he was the human. So you would either get him or a computer. And his whole book was about how do people, what makes us human in conversation. And that was a little bit more interesting because that at least someone started to think about what exactly makes me human in conversation and makes people believe in that. But it was still about tricking. It was still about imitation game. It was still about, okay, what kind of parlor tricks can we throw in the conversation to make you feel like you're talking to a human, not a computer? And it was definitely not about thinking, what is it?”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Much, but it was all about like through conversation reprogramming you, so getting to some. That was, I mean Probably not very true, and that didn't seem working very much even back in the day. And then there were some other books, like, I don't know, mostly just self-help books around how to be the best conversationalist or how to make people like you or some other stuff like Dale Carnegie, whatever.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Barely useful. It's very marginal even in their space. No one really is excited. I've never met theoretical linguist who's like, I can't wait to work on the conversation and analytics. That is just something very marginal, sort of applied to writing scripts for salesmen when they analyze which conversation strategies were most successful for sales. Okay, so that was not very helpful. Then I looked a little bit deeper, and then there are. Whether there were any books written on what really contributes to a great conversation, that was really strange because most of those were NLP books, which is neurolinguistic programming, which is so. Which is not the NLP that I was expecting to be, but it was mostly. Some psychologists, Richard Bandler, I think, came up with that. It was this big guy in a leather vest that could program your mind.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Not even studied that well. So when we jumped into that in 2012, I looked first at like, okay, what's the chatbot? What's the state of the art chatbot? And, you know, those were the Loebner Prize days. But I thought, okay, so what about the science of conversation? Clearly, there have been tons of scientists or people that academics that looked into the conversation. So if I want to know everything about it, I can just read about it. And there's not much really. There are conversational analysts who are basically just listening to speech to different conversations, annotating them, and then I mean, that's not really used for much. That's the field of theoretical linguistics”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But the interesting part about it is that most of our days we spent talking and we're not talking about like those conversations are not turn on the lights or customer support problems or some other task oriented things. These conversations are something else. And then somehow they're extremely important for us. And when we don't have them, then we feel deeply and happy, potentially lonely, which as we know, you know creates tons of risk for our health as well. And so, this is most of ours as humans. And some who know one's trying to replicate them.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Any person would break, to be honest, if I'm not trying to even have a conversation with you, you're not going to give it to me If I keep asking you some random questions or jumping from topic to topic, that wouldn't be, which I'm probably doing, but that probably wouldn't contribute to the conversation. So I think the problem of testing So there should be some other metric. How do we evaluate whether that conversation was powerful or not, which is what we actually started with? And I think those measurements exist and we can't test on those. What really struck us back in the day and what's still Eight years later, it's still not resolved. And I'm not seeing tons of groups working on it. Maybe I just don't know about them. It's also possible.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I was trying to break it, break this person, or test whether he's going to give me a good conversation, it would have never happened. So the whole problem with testing conversations is that you can put it in front of a jury because then you have to go into some Turing test mode where is it responding to all my factual questions right? So it really has to be something in the field where people are actually talking to it because they want to, not because we're just trying to break it. And it's working for them. Because the weird part of it is that it's very subjective. It takes two to tango here fully. If you're not trying to have a good conversation, if you're trying to test it, then it's going to break.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Hobbyist with a dream to trick like a jury. Like a weird by the way, very weird. So if we think about conversations, first of all, when I have great conversations with people, I'm not trying to test them. So for instance, if I try to break them, if I'm actually playing along, I'm part of it”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Just took us a while to discover the product because it all started with a hunch of like of me, my mentor, and just sitting around and he was like, well, that's it. That's the, you know, the holy grail is there. There's something extremely powerful in conversations. And there's no one who's working on machine conversation from the right angle, so to say.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Prize, which was won by a guy who built a chatbot that talked like a Ukrainian teenager. It was just a gimmick. And somehow people picked up those gimmicks. And then, you know, the most famous Chad bot at the time was Eliza from 1980s, which was really bizarre. Or smarter child on”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“What really struck me was that there was a lot of talk about machine learning and deep learning. Like big data was a really big thing. Everyone was saying, you know, the business world, big data. 2012 is the biggest cargo competitions were, you know. Important. But that was really the kind of upheaval. People started talking about machine learning a lot. But it was only about images or something else. And it was never about conversation. As soon as I looked into the conversational tech, it was all about. Something really weird and very outdated and very marginal and fell very hobbyist, it was all about.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I saw something in just this pure texting and also thought that we should first start building for people who really need it versus people who have Google Glass, if you know what I mean. And I felt like the early adopters of Google Glass. Might not be overlapping with people who are really lonely and might need someone to talk to. But then we really just focus on the tech itself. We just thought, what if we just didn't have a product idea in the moment? And we felt, what if we just look into building the best conversational constructor, so to say, use the best tech available at the time? And that was before the first paper about deep learning applied to dialogues, which happened in 2015, in August 2015, which Google published.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But my then boss was also my mentor and really, really close friend told me, hey, I think there's something in it and you should just go work on it. I was like, well, what product? I don't know what I'm building. He's like, you'll figure it out. And, you know, looking back at this, it was a horrible idea to work on something without knowing what it was, which is maybe the reason why it took us so long. But we just decided to work on the conversational tech to see there were no. Chad bought constructors or programs or anything that would allow you to actually build one at the time. That was the Arab of, by the way, Google Glass, which is why some of the investors, like seed investors we've talked with, were like, oh, you should totally build it for Google Glass. If not, we're not. I don't think that's interesting.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And that really made her emotional. She said, you know, I have my mom and my. My husband, and I don't have any more early in my life. Was very sad, but at the same time, I felt, and we had more interviews in a similar vein. And what I thought in the moment was like, well, it's not that the technology is ready because definitely in 2012 technology was not ready for that, but humans are ready, unfortunately. So this project would not be about tech capabilities would be more about human vulnerabilities. There's something so powerful around about conversational AI that I saw then that I thought is definitely worth putting a lot of effort into. So at the end of the day, we saw the banking project.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Very poor talents, mostly talents that were. Know sort of factories, monotowns they were building something and then the factory went away and there was just a bunch of Poor people. And then we went to a couple that weren't as dramatic, but still the one I remember really fondly was this woman that worked at a glass factory and she talked to Chad Bon And she was talking about it and started crying during the interview because she said no one really cares for me that much. And so to be clear, that was my only endeavor in programming that chat boss. It was really simple. It was literally just a few if this then that rules. Was incredibly simpl”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And then we thought, well, Since you're talking to a bank account, why can't this some behavioral ideas and why can't this banking chatbot be nice to you and really talk to you sort of as a friend this way you develop more connection to it, retention is higher, people don't churn. And so I went to very depressing Russian cities to test it out. I went to, I remember three different towns with to interview potential users. So people use it for a little bit. And I want to talk to them and we're part.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Was low. People didn't use mobile banking or online banking and their computers. So we figured out that SMS would be the best way because that would work on feature phones. That recorded some chatbot technology, which I didn't know anything about, obviously. So I started looking into it and saw that there's nothing really, well, there was just nothing really.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And it was very visionary and asked me whether I want to do fun stuff together. And we worked on a bank. The idea was to build a bank on top of a telco. So that was 2011 or 2012. And a lot of telecommunication company mobile network operators didn't really know what to do next in terms of new products, new revenue. And this big idea was that you put a bank on top and then all work works out. Basically a prepaid account becomes your bank account and you can use it as your bank. So a third of a country wakes up as your bank client. But we couldn't quite figure out what would be the main interface to interact with the bank. The problem was that most people didn't have smartphones back in the time in Russia. The penetration of smartphones.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, yeah, so I was a journalist, and then I went to business school for a couple of years. Just see if I can maybe switch Garrison to do something else with 23. And then I came back and started working for a businessman in Russia who built the first 4G network in our country.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“There's something to Pushing yourself physically but alone. That happens when you're doing things like you do or strenuous workouts or rowing across the Atlantic or marathons. That's why I love watching marathons. It's so boring You can see them”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Oftentimes, when something traumatic like that happens. But also, if you really spend a lot of time meditating, looking at the nature, doing something that really gets you there. But once you're there, I think when you summit a mountain, a really hard mountain, you inevitably get there. That's just a way to get to the state. But once you're in this state, Can do really big things, I think.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That goes hand in hand. I remember a day or two after he died we went to finally get his password out of the embassy and we're driving around Moscow and it was December, which is usually there's never sun in Moscow in December. And somehow it was an extremely sunny day and we were driving with. Close friend. And I remember feeling for the first time maybe this just moment of incredible clarity and somehow happiness, not like happy happiness, but happiness and just feeling that, you know I know what the universe is sort of about whether it's good or bad. And it wasn't a sad feeling. It was probably the most beautiful feeling that you can ever achieve You can only get it when something.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Pleasant, it was just giving me to sleep. And then during the day, I can distract myself with other things like talking to you.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But that is very advanced spiritual work for me. I'm definitely just definitely not. Oh my God. No, I have, I think it's very, very useful. It's just the fact that maybe being so afraid is not useful. And mine is more, I'm just terrified. Like it really makes me.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Definitely When I talk to my mentor about it, he always tells me, well, what dies Nothing there that can die. But I guess that requires. Well, in Buddhism, one of the concepts are really hard to grasp and that people spend all their lives meditating on would be anata, which is the concept of not self. And kind of thinking that if you're not your thoughts, which you're obviously not your thoughts because you can observe them and not your emotions and not your buddy, then what is this? And if you go really far, then finally you see that. There's not self. There's this concept of not self. So once you get there, how can that actually die? What is dying?”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I'm really scared of death. This is a big. I definitely have tons of. I'm pretty big trauma about it, and I'm still working it through.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“While selling apples, and then I lost another close friend of mine. It just made me very scared. I have tons of fear about death. That's what makes me not fall asleep oftentimes and just go in loops. And then as my therapist recommended me, I open up some nice calming images with a voiceover and it calms me down.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Unfortunately, I think about way too much. It's somehow after Roman, like every year after that, I started losing people that I really love. I lost my grandfather the next year. The person who would explain to me what the universe is made of.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I don't know. I just felt lonely again, I guess. And that was, you know, coming back to San Francisco in December, helped organize the funeral, help his parents. And then came back here and it was a really lonely apartment, a bunch of his clothes everywhere and Christmas time. And I remember I had a board meeting with my investors and I just couldn't talk about, like, I had to pretend everything's okay. And, you know, I'm just working on this company. It was definitely very, very tough, tough time.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Maybe someone who's depressed Naturally inclined thinking about that. But I just felt, you know, this year in San Francisco, we just had so much I was going through hard times. He was going through a hard time. And we were definitely, I was trying to make him just happy somehow, to make him feel better. And it felt like, you know, this, I don't know, I just felt like I was taking care of him a lot. And he almost started to feel better. And then that happened.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“What he just says, well, that's in his fish has this idea and he talks about, like, I want to rethink how people grieve and how people talk about death.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, right before his death. It was like a couple months before that he recorded that video. And so I found out my computer when it was in our living room. He never got in, but he was thinking about it a lot somehow.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, well, his last year here in San Francisco was pretty depressed as his startup was not going really anywhere. And he wanted to do something else. He wanted to build. He played with a bunch of ideas, but the last one he had was around building a startup around death, so having, he applied to Y Combinator with a video that I had on my computer. And it was all about disrupting death, thinking about new cemeteries, more biologically, like things that could be better biologically for humans. At the same time, having those digital avatars, these kind of AI avatars that would store all the memory about a person that he could interact with.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It was just this constant. I think he was really important for me and for our friends for many different reasons. And I think one of them being that we didn't just say goodbye to him, but we sort of said goodbye to our youth in a way. It was like the endovan era on so many different levels, the end of Moscow because we knew it, the end of. Know Oz living through her 20s and kind of dreaming about the future.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“In Buddhism, there's this concept of samaya Something really Like huge happens, and then you can see very clearly. I think that was it, like basically something changed me so much in such a short period of time that I could just see really. Really clearly what mattered or what not. Well, I definitely saw that whatever I was doing at work didn't matter at all and some of the things. And it was just this big realization, this very, very clear vision of what life's about.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“In 2015, on 28th of November, so it was pretty long ago now. But at the time, I was 29, so for me it was. First of all, meaningful death in my life, you know, both sets of, I had both sets of grandparents at the time. I didn't see anyone so close eye. And death sort of existed, but as a concept, but definitely not as something that would be happening to us anytime soon. Specifically our friends, because we were, you know, we were still in our twenties or early thirties and it still felt like the whole life is. You could still dream about ridiculous things, even so that was, it was just really, really abrupt, I'd say.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“He was crossing the street and the car was Over the speed limit and just didn't stop on the pedestrian cross, on the zebra. Run over”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Went back for our visas. We had to get a stamp and our passport for our work visas and the embassy was taking a little longer, so we stayed there for a couple weeks.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Too. He actually moved first, so I was always sort of trying to do what he was doing. So I didn't like that he was already here and I was still, you know, in Moscow and we weren't hanging out together all the time.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And then. And this closest friend of mine died. We actually moved here to San Francisco together and then we went back for a visa to Moscow. And we lived together with roommates and we came back and he got hit by a car right in front of Kremlin next to the river and died the same day, Mitch.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Least you know that somewhere you can be just yourself, like you don't need to pretend, you don't need to be great at work or tell some story or sell yourself in some way or another. And so it became this really close friends and In a way, I started a company because he had a startup and I felt like I kind of want a startup too. I felt really cool. I don't know what I would really do, but I felt like I kind of need a startup.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Somehow remember, and we just got really close, and somehow remember this one day where one day in summer that we just stayed outdoors the whole night and just talked. And for some unknown reason, it just felt for the first time that someone could, you know, see me for who I am. And it just felt extremely good. And we fell asleep outside and just talking and it was rainy. It was beautiful. It was, you know, sunrise. It's really cheesy. But at the same time, we just became friends in a way that I've never been friends with anyone else before. And I do remember that before and after that you sort of have this unconditional family sort of. And it gives you tons of power. It just basically gives you this tremendous power to do things in your life and to change positively. On many different levels”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Guess finding for the first time some friends is very simple story, some friends that all of a sudden we I guess we're the same, you know, the same. The same place with our lives. We're twenty five twenty six, I guess. And”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Fruit because we only had apples, bananas. And whatever watermelons, whatever people would grow in the Soviet Union. So there were no pineapples or papay or mango. Like you've never seen those fruit things. Like those were so. Ridiculously good. And obviously you could not get any strawberries in winter or anything that's not seasonal. So that was a really big deal. Seeing all these fruit things.”
2020-09-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #121 – Eugenia Kuyda: Friendship with an AI Companion · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source