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“I'm absolutely overwhelmed by everything you just said there. So thank you so much because you are obviously just what you're doing at the age that you've done, you know, is phenomenal. And to have that kind of wisdom, to be able to read a book like mine, I feel like we're actually very different in lots of ways, but very similar in other ways. And so that really means so much. Thank you. I really, really appreciate that. And best of luck with all the incredible things that you're doing too.”
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“And I was like, thank you. She only got a clue who the hell we all were, but she was so woman lovely. And actually, I said to Kenny afterwards, I hate you for doing that, but I love you for doing that. Because I have a, I touched Oprah Winfrey's hand. And yeah, so I think, you know, the way she's created her whole broadcasting empire as well is just amazing. She's such an incredible role model and has a battle through. Can you imagine being openfree at the beginning of her career, you know, kind of let alone, you know, she was an actress, but also what she'd gone through as a child. And then to forge her way as a news broadcaster in that environment in America, I think she is such a, she's a good role model, I think”
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“And she just walked past the table, and he just got hold of her hand and she looked down at him and he said, and she was so warm. And he said, I'm so sorry. I know you're leaving. But he said, my wife absolutely adores you. And she just got hold of my hand and she put it on her heart and she looked me in the eye and said, and I adore you.”
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“Oh, thank you so much. When I grew up, I wanted to be Oprah. You know, as a kid, I wanted to be Oprah. And that was the person, I think, that I thought, wow, that's amazing. But then, of course, you're in this country and you look around and you know kind of who are your role models. Yeah, yeah. I got to meet her once by accident. We were in a lovely restaurant in London and she was dining a few tables away and I would never go up to somebody and do that thing. And Kenny was going to me. We were with other people who worked in tele. They were kind of execs. And everybody knew she was there, you know. And Kenny said, oh my God, he knows she's my hero. Kenny said, Oprah's there. I said, I know, I know. And he's saying, you're going to, and I said, no, of course I'm not.”
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“If I had no fear, I would When my kids have left home, I jump on a plane, I go and try and work in LA for a year I go and work in America. I always wanted to work in American TV, so I would go, right, I'm going to go bang on the doors of execs and.”
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“You've got something nice coming up, or you've got something you're going to do together, or you've got an afternoon yesterday, I took a break for about half an hour, back to back recording podcasts, and it was a gorgeous day. And I knew he was outside, he'd done something outside. So I just went out in the garden, just walked around with him for half an hour because I knew he wanted to show me things that he'd been doing. And that made him feel good showing me these things. And it made me feel good as well because I was getting a bit of vitamin D and I was kind of having a nice chat with him. And I think spontaneity actually is really important in a relationship and not always, you know, planning, trying to be more spontaneous in your personal life to your, yeah, your business life. You know, you got to be, you got to be on it. But I think, yeah, the spontaneity is quite good. And he gets, you know, like he'll be like, oh, are you coming to that? You know, if he's doing something, a charity event or something or business or thing. And I say, oh, I'm going to come along to that. Oh, great. It's great that you're there. And I really love it when he says that because he wants me to be there, you know.”
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“I think we Always have, we're lucky because most mornings, you know, we're having breakfast together. We're kind of aware of each other's days. We have dinners and things, schedules and we've got things we might do at the weekend. So I think there are weeks where we don't see a lot of each other. If our schedules aren't really aligning, but we know it's okay because we'll pick up some time at the weekend or something. I think through our relationship early on, Kenny was away a lot with his rugby and he'd be traveling and then coming home. And that was really hard when you had weeks away from each other. But it did make, I think, absence makes the heart grow fonder. And you really kind of want to be with that person. You know you want to be with that person. But I wouldn't so much schedule it as just make sure that...”
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“And the worry for me is that it's all about perfection and it's never going to be perfect. You know, there are always going to be things that go wrong. But I think if you're in tune and you're kind of aligned on the really important things, the values that you have, then you can overcome bumps in the road. And also you've got to laugh. Having fun is really, really important. Yeah, I've always resisted talking too much about Kenny because I've always felt like I'm going to jinx it. You know, if I say something. But I feel now with nearly a quarter of a century gone that we're okay. We're definitely not going to break up tomorrow. No, yeah. So I used to, at the beginning, I always used to think, I'm not going to talk about it because, you know.”
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“So, I suppose those things I'm saying to you through hindsight, looking back, I think I wouldn't have sat out at the beginning and said, okay, Kenny, these are the things that we have to, and I was talking to, we have to do, I was talking to somebody younger, a lot younger the other day about relationships and the kind of young people now and kind of how relationships start is so different and how relationships even come to be and expectations of relationships.”
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“Disagreements. You know, we have robust disagreements about things. We're not aligned on every single thing because that's not real either. And I think it's important to know how to disagree. My parents sometimes had really screaming rows when I was little, and that's really horrible to hear as a child because you don't want that. Screaming rows are one thing. But actually being able to disagree is really important. Having your shared kind of passions and goals in life and things you want to do together is also, but also having your differences and having your things that he likes to do separate to me is really important because you can't live in each other's pockets all the time.”
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“I think it's, and we always, and we don't always, but we often will have those conversations with each other actually about why we are still going strong and what it is that, because we've been through normal marriages, you know, we've been through rough patches and periods where you're kind of, you know, not never before we got married. But marriage and children and the commitments, they do test you and they do put you in positions where you feel uncomfortable. And this is not kind of what I expected things to be and how. And I think the one thing is communication. We always talk those things through. Kenny is very much like you don't go to bed on a disagreement or an argument. You know, you sort sit down and discuss. And that's metaphorically, you know, it doesn't have to be at bedtime. But, you know, you don't just let something fester. He always says that he nips it in the bud before it's a bud. So if he can see something's a problem, but also it's okay to have.”
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“He's been the most brilliant supporter. He's so positive. He's so encouraging. And, you know, he just really believes in me and gives me such enormous strength. But he's also a vulnerable and sensitive person. as a role model for our son, I feel like I've got this great person who's alongside me”
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“Totally. I was trying to think of a bigger superlative than rock, but yeah, he is. I remember once years ago doing a podcast called Walking the Dog with Emily Dean. And at the end of it, she said to me, you've got Kennyitis. I said, sorry. She said, you can't stop mentioning him. Is great. I'm very lucky I knew I wasn't going to lose him He's a great man. I couldn't bear wished for anybody. Share my life with who's better I used to When I was having my kind of negative face with men and I perhaps didn't think I deserved somebody like Kenny. Glad that I decided I did because timing's everything, isn't it? And when I met him, if I'd been that person before. I wouldn't have called him, you know, because he would have been too good for me, too nice for me. And yeah, he's.”
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“As a project that we had to deal with. And it's a bloody awful operation. You get in basically six stab wounds in your torso. And it is really invasive and it's a horrible thing to see him and the pain he was afterwards. It's a horrible thing to go through. But he's doing really, really well now. And he just said to me last night, actually, when we were about to go to sleep, he said, he said, we've done really well, haven't we? Because he said, people keep saying. How are you all? How's it, you know? And he said, We've done well. I said, We've done well, you know, because he's good. The kids have been great throughout it. We've been through something that kind of unifies you, I think, as a family, you know, can really solidify you as a family. We're very lucky.”
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“And we were shocked, stunned, because you don't know what that means, you know, how bad is it? Where has it gone? All those things. And I think Kenny was really very sad. He's just like, I feel sadness because he said, I feel so well. I feel sad inside me, this is happening and I don't know about it. And it was a very confusing. And also it's very tied in with your masculinity and, you know, kind of the prostate. And so he was really, really upset. And as you can imagine, and I just thought, right, no, this is what we're going to sort this. This is going to be absolutely fine. And, you know, what do we do? You know, I kind of, what are the answers here? And his urologist was very, was brilliant. He's a brilliant communicator and told us what the options were. And I said, we just got to get a plan. You've got to get a plan together. You need to know what you're doing. And then we'll be positive and we'll just kind of keep being positive about it. And that's what we did, really. Once he got over the initial shock, we just really kind of focused on it.”
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“So he had a Zoom setup with his urologist because it was at the early part of this year when we were still not really, you know, there was that COVID surge. And he said, okay, don't come in. I'll do a Zoom with you and Gabby together. And I had made an appointment or a meeting rather with the head of a production company I was going to be working with to come to the house at 11. So Kenny said, he's calling at 10.30. I said, yeah, great, fine, 10.30. I was not expecting anything other than you're absolutely fine. You know, I did not expect negative news, didn't expect him to hear anything other than come back to me in a year. We'll keep an eye on it, you know? Otherwise, I wouldn't have made an appointment with somebody at 11 o'clock. And when his urologist told him, I think we both were just, I think Kenny was more expecting it than me. I very much was like, you're going to be absolutely fine. Look at you, your picture of health. And you were on your watt bike pushing out massive what's yesterday, you know, and you're great.”
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“He had found out, but also a reason for him wanting to talk about it because men can be really rubbish at that, you know, and it's something that I think we talked about masculine kind of identity and earlier on about my dad when he was younger and how he, the self-preservation and wanting to keep things in in public. And actually that's a lot of that is men not always sharing those things. And not having those conversations candidly. And when he did that on the podcast, the response from men has been amazing to him, you know, and I think it's partly because he's perceived to be somebody who is a tough rugby player. So if he can talk about it, okay, I can go to the doctor and I can ask them a few questions.”
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“Because, like most blokes, this is the thing. And this is why he did a podcast episode talking about it. Like most blokes, and especially one he played international rugby, right? You know, he played 70 times for his country. He was used to giving his body a battering and giving his body, putting his body through it. And so he's living with some of the ramifications of that. You know, he has to really look after his back and his core. He's very lucky. He didn't really break too many bones. But, you know, he knows he has to look after his body because he put it through a lot. So when he does have aches and pains and things, he often, like a lot of men, just ignores them because he thinks that's part of, you know, what he'd done to himself before and that's part of his sporting life. And this year he lost one of his very best friends who played for Scotland with who'd done just that, who'd ignored a lot of those things, thinking it was old injuries. And it turned out he had bowel cancer. And he died. And that was for him just, you know, a huge sense of gratitude that he...”
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“So I'm forever grateful that I started my podcast, I think, because he wouldn't have, we wouldn't have had that conversation.”
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“That he found out he had prostate cancer. So his Kind of his motivation for doing it was to see if his testosterone was still kind of you know functioning at a high level and they said to him listen don't worry about your hormones they're fine you've got to worry about your psa to cut a long story short he ended up having his prostate removed and um had prostate cancer so um yeah we we in terms of a midlife a midlife journey and a midlife experience there was a lot a lot going on there obviously with regard to my journey kind of bled into him finding out something that he otherwise wouldn't have known because unfortunately prostate cancer is a cancer that you don't always get symptoms until it's too late and as his urologist said to him if you'd had symptoms we might be having a very different conversation”
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“Look at renting a flat in Beckonsfield to serve them all right. And it's a real perfect confluence when you have a woman in her late 40s and her kids are teenagers because their hormones are going crazy in the other direction and they're going through puberty and everything's happening the other way. Kenny was very, really wanted to know what was going on with me. So he'd listened to my podcasts and he'd learned so much about the menopause from the female guest, Davina McColl, who's the, you know, doing so much great work in this space. And she was talking about it and he came in one day and he sat down and he said to me, I've just listened, I've been out on a dog walk and I've just listened to Davina. And he said, okay, so if you start taking HRT and your hormones kind of start going back again, you know, what happens to me? Are my hormones dropping off a cliff? Am I going to, I said, no, no, no, men are different. And you kept going on about it. I said, look, just go and do a well man test or something because you need to satisfy yourself that you're okay. And it was through doing this well man test.”
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“Absolute kind of family meeting crisis meeting, putting everybody to the table saying, Right, nobody around here is putting their way and really reading the right act to everybody. And I was, and the point where I got, I thought they're not taking me seriously. So I said, if this carries on, I'm getting a flat in Beckonsfield, which is a little town near where we live. And they all looked at me like I'd gone mad because this had come from nowhere. And of course, the kids were like close to tears. Because I'm not going to be, and I realize now I look back. And I was just totally, you know, sad about kind of how I was feeling and I just didn't feel I was, you know, as I didn't have as much fight and tenacity and energy and, you know, and this was all menopausal symptoms, really. I mean, now with the hindsight and the distance that's between it, you know, they laugh about that whole day. That was the day where we realized mum was having a metaphor. But thank God I found out, right? And I didn't actually go and...”
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“Immune system's low. I don't want my immune system to be any weaker than anybody else's. So it was a good time to find out. And knowing that I could rebalance my hormones as well. And I was so relieved when I”
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“Yeah, I realized I had perimenopausal symptoms because I didn't really know what it was. I just felt this sense of like, oh, nothing feels as exciting anymore. Nothing feels as joyous. I'm not getting the same satisfaction out of stuff. And that was so not me. And then I did one of my podcasts. I was with Mariela Frostrop, and she started talking about the metaphor. She's a bit older than me. And I was like, oh my God, these things, these things you talk of, I recognize them. And afterwards, she recommended, you know, I go speak to this doctor that she had seen. And sure enough, I was bang in the middle of what was a physical manifestation, obviously, of the metapauses eventually you stop menstruating. But before then, you have all these other things going on, low self-esteem, anxiety, brain fog, you know, and this is all to do with your hormones dropping off. All the jobs that these hormones did before, they no longer can do. And that includes also your immune system going down and this is in the middle of a pandemic. So at that point,”
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“Couldn't have done that 10 years ago when he was first really building his business. He wouldn't have, you know, he just wouldn't have worked. So I think you get to a stage where you also give yourself that time to do those things and allow yourself, you know, and you'll be, you know, you'll have so many other interests, business interests and things that have along the way have, you know, kind of given you great satisfaction. So I'm not worried about you having any kind of midlife crisis.”
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“For your fulfillment in life is not just from the things that earn you cash. And I think the older you get, you realize how important those other things are, the hobbies, if that is a hobby or if it's Volunteering, you know, and I don't mean that just kind of working in a, you know, help the agent shop, but giving your talents to other people, mentoring people, we do a lot, Kenny and I do a lot of stuff with various charities that we feel very passionate about or giving your time up to people. I think those things are really important because as you become more financially secure, it is your time, isn't it, that's the most valuable kind of thing that you have. And if you can give your time to other people like that, it's very, very rewarding. And then you find passion projects as well, things that you've felt in the past you haven't had time to commit to and that I want to Kenny, my husband is really into being outside. You know, he loves making things. I'm like building things and doing things. So he'll literally be on a Zoom doing his business call. And then he'll realize he's got half an hour and he'll go out and he'll be on his tractor and kind of raking something and building something. And, you know, that for him is how he is just loving his kind of midlife balance.”
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“And in looking like they're nearing the end of their lives, and that makes you question the rest of your life. So there are so many issues that come up and time to think as well because your kids are getting to an age where they're not the same kind of demands on your time through them. So they're flying. You know, they're doing their own thing. So you have time to think and space to think. So it is definitely, it's a thing.”
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“Give up this, but actually a lot of women do give up that career because of the feelings that they have of anxiety and low self esteem and you get brain fog. There's so many things physically that happen to women at that time. So I think that has an impact obviously on lives, but also and then what I realized when I started looking into it how many relationships break up, but not because actually those two people don't love each other anymore, but because if the woman's going through all of that and the man's feeling kind of like she doesn't love me anymore, what's going on, you know, and the relationship breaks down because of a lack of understanding and communication. But also, I think because you've done the same thing, a lot of people have done the same thing for nearly 30 years. If they've been on a traditional career trajectory and then they feel bored or they need something to kind of give them a kick and then there's the mortality question as well because you suddenly look at your parents and a lot of people in that age, their parents are, you know, in their 70s or maybe 80s.”
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“There is definitely something in it, in the midlife change. I think the physical changes that all women go through, it shouldn't underestimate kind of how that can affect them and their families. And that's why a greater understanding of that is really important, especially women who've worked so hard in their careers and they, you know, the stories and the anecdotes you hear about women just pulling themselves away from it because of the physical effects of menopause. And I have a really high-powered friend who's one of the top, she's one of the top hedge funders in the country sits on the board of one of the biggest. And she said to me, well, I'm going on testosterone because there's no way I'm working this hard and letting a bloke come and take my job. So testosterone is one of the hormones that depletes in midlife for women. So if you go on HRT, you could take progesterone, estrogen, and testosterone. People don't realize that women have testosterone, you know, and that they need it. And I was laughing because she was like, as if I'm going to kind of...”
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“Midpoint came about as a lockdown project, something I've been intending to do for ages and had the time. And it felt like I was in the middle of my life and it happened while I was in a pandemic and it felt very much like a time of introspection and asking yourself questions about what next, what does it mean to go through this period where a lot of people start to experience the midlife crisis a lot of people refer to which obviously in the sitcom that's where the bloke gets some leather jeans and a Harley Davidson and runs off into the sunset with somebody 25 years younger than him or Shirley Valentine flies off to Greece and finds a lover, you know, so you get these kind of very caricatured ideas of what midlife is. But for most people, they stay with their families and they work through something that happens to them. And what I discovered with women is menopause.”
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“It didn't look like, or how we perceive a football terrace to look now, which is people from different ethnicities and people from different backgrounds and different sexual orientation, all those different things that that office didn't represent. And that office was, as I say, not... Unusual, that would have been across many industries how things looked. So I think it's really important that we have now more representation, diversity, and everything that we do because of that. But at the time, that was really normal. So, you know, that wasn't, I didn't feel like I was in an unusual place. I didn't feel like, oh, I wish I went somewhere else where it was a bit, you know, people were a bit kinder.”
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“Because of that culture that was there. And that's not healthy for any business or any environment. I always quote, I made a documentary on women in football and I remember Karen Brady saying to me that who is the CEO of West Ham and her saying to me, I never invest my own money in a company that doesn't have a woman on the board. This was about 14 years ago, 13 years ago I made this documentary. And she said, not because I think that's going to, you know, that I'm trying to make a point, but I know that that board is going to be more representative in terms of how it views its business, how it views its future and its budgets and everything else that its plans for the business. So I always remember that because when I look at that office, I think, well, how could this environment ever really have different voices and different opinions? And because the big loud ones, the big loud kind of more misogynistic ones were dominating everybody else and people didn't feel they could speak up and didn't feel they could talk. And it didn't look like society. It didn't look like a football terrace or...”
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“Especially somebody of your age. And when I told my daughter, who's 17, she just, you know, it defies belief for her. And yet when I speak to people my age, they reminisce almost about I spoke to an actress the other day who's same age as me and she was talking about things that people would say in auditions even. And, you know, and I think it's really positive that you think that is so unthinkable, you know, because that means things have changed. I think it's amazing actually kind of that for me it doesn't seem that long ago, but actually, you know, it's a few decades ago and society has changed. Our expectation of each other has changed, our expectation of how to be treated in the workplace has changed. And that comes through representation as well because those offices were very male dominated. And I think there were probably a lot of men in there that weren't comfortable with that, but they didn't feel they could speak up.”
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“Think as part of me feeling like, oh, this is what it is to be an adult, you know? Is this how I, you know, is this how I behave now? And there was a good 18 months really where I was putting on weight, didn't feel good about myself at all. And then that, it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy almost, you know, and you kind of go, oh, well, I'll put on weight now. I may as well just carry on eating the magnums. I may as well carry on eating the, you know, drinking the chardonnay. I wasn't happy. You know, I didn't enjoy that. But it just, it kind of became a habit, I guess, you know.”
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“Yeah, I think I wasn't very healthy. I'd gone from being somebody who had run half marathons when I was in Newcastle, ate a really brilliant diet to suddenly I was doing late shifts, eating badly, drinking more alcohol than I'd ever drunk when I was at university. I wasn't massive drinker. And suddenly it was a bar culture, you know, it was kind of after a shift to go for a drink. Shifts would finish at 10. You shouldn't start drinking at 10. It's not a good time of day to start drinking. Weekends, I knew nobody when I first arrived in London. So it was, you know, what's everybody doing? How do I get social life? Where do I go? So you've invited somewhere that would involve being in a bar or being involved in a club. And so I, yeah, I was slipping into kind of bad habits.”
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“And it would have been easy, I think, to lose yourself in that. And there were times where I felt like I was trying to conform and, you know, be the person that was able to banter with the lads and have that kind of, you know, riffing and all of that. But it didn't make me feel very good. You know, I didn't really like that person. So I wasn't completely at ease with myself, I would say, there.”
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“I was very male dominated environment, and it was obviously very early in the infancy of sky. Sky was only a few years old at that point. The Premier League was only a few years old. So a lot of Sky's early recruits, if you like, were from Fleet Street, the hard-nosed journalists who kind of done, you know, pounded the shifts and gone kind of, you know, to all the matches over the years. And from, again, a very male-dominated environment. But it was tough. And I've talked a lot recently to people about the 90s, not to do with my book, but just about how it was there was this thing happening in the 90s that you've kind of went along with a bit and I don't really feel comfortable with I'm not a ladder you know I'm not there was this ladder culture and there was a drinking culture and it was all about the music of the time and everything else and I think football was on this center of all of this as well because of the newness of sky and the newness of the Premier League”
2022-10-31 · The Diary of a CEO · Gabby Logan Opens Up About Her Heartbreaking Past · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“In that environment. So, I think it's really important to, I always say to my kids about, you know, it's expression your mum would have said to you kind of like, you know, don't run before you can walk, right? And it sounds really boring because everybody wants to run. Everybody wants to get there quicker and you can get there quickly, but you've just got to put.”
2022-10-31 · The Diary of a CEO · Gabby Logan Opens Up About Her Heartbreaking Past · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It wasn't towards the end until towards the end that I really felt I was ready. I knew all that stuff I was doing was really important in building the building blocks of your career. So I think it's really important to put those foundations down. And you'll always benefit from that. It's never a waste of time taking an opportunity from somebody, saying yes to something. I said yes to things. I talk about them in the book that I was nowhere near in that year that I was working in local radio. I didn't know how to do it, but I said yes to stuff because I knew it was going to give me experience. And then obviously when you find yourself somewhere like Sky, which is I was at the very much the bottom of the wrong, you know, the ladder, and I was learning again. I was starting to a whole new set of experiences. Then you have to have that hopefully I had a little bit of kind of humility in the sense, okay, I need to learn. I don't know what I'm doing here. And then people will find people who will be your teacher.”
2022-10-31 · The Diary of a CEO · Gabby Logan Opens Up About Her Heartbreaking Past · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But I knew I'd put those hours in, and I felt I wasn't going to be, I mean, we've all got an element of imposter syndrome, but I didn't feel I was going to be out of place because I knew I'd had all that experience, those hours. So I think you've got to put the groundwork in, you know, and not expect things to happen too quickly in the sense of, you know, don't. Don't over force those things that you'll feel the time's right. You feel like I knew I was ready to move on around that time. But in that year of post working full-time,”
2022-10-31 · The Diary of a CEO · Gabby Logan Opens Up About Her Heartbreaking Past · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think what I did through university, and that could have been post university, I worked so hard to, I did shifts that were very unsociable. I was doing three o'clock, four o'clock in the morning getups to go and do new shifts. And I did late night love shows. I did all the kind of things that, you know, are the unglamorous end of that job because I was being offered the shifts and I took them. And I had to juggle that with my law degree. I innately felt that it was almost like I was doing an apprenticeship in what I wanted to do at the same time. And as well as earning me, you know, some cash as a student is always handy. But I was getting this experience. And the hours and hours and hours of doing that meant that when I did get the opportunity at Sky and I felt confident about picking the phone up because I knew I'd had all these hours. I wasn't just somebody who'd done a few shows and, you know, even if I just had the one year working there at postgrad, I don't think I would have felt as...”
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“Negotiating a package to go and work there. So it was a really, really exciting kind of period of my life that I hadn't really planned. I didn't know how I was going to get to London. I was looking for adverts in kind of broadcast and various places, you know, trying to find something that could get me there. And I rang up an agency, a talent agency. I looked at people whose careers I liked and thought, oh, I wonder who they're managed by. I'll ring them. And they were very sweet and said, oh, well, do come back to us when you've got some experience. Because I had no experience. I had this little TV job in the Northeast. And I just didn't know how I was going to get there, but I knew I had to for things to progress.”
2022-10-31 · The Diary of a CEO · Gabby Logan Opens Up About Her Heartbreaking Past · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I was younger than that. Yeah, because that was a year after I joined Metro, which I would have been 22, so I was 23. So I was 23 when I joined Sky Sports. My dream had been to work in London. I wanted to leave the northeast and find a job in London. So when Sky Sports saw me doing touchline interviews at St James's Park, because by this point I got a Saturday job because the boss at the station could see I loved sport and he was like, why don't you do touchline interviews at St. James's Park for us on a Saturday? Then Sky had seen me on the touchline and decided that they needed more women in front of camera and asked me if I'd be interested in going down for a screen test. basically a month when my life just turned because I had this sliding doors moment where I made the call straight away. As you've discovered with the call to Giles, I wasn't shy of picking up the phone and making the call. I made the call the next morning to the person I've been told to phone and then within a couple of days I was on a flight to London to go and see the boss at Sky and do the screen test and then within a few hours I think of getting home that night I got a phone call asking me if I'd go and work there and”
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“To do. So I felt like that was something that I wanted to expand on and that was something that I could. Certainly take forwards as a quality, you know, and it certainly is something that is good in live broadcasting to be able to think on your feet and be able to turn a story into something else and talk to somebody on the spot who's just walked onto set, you know, and fill five minutes of time, all those things that live broadcasting needs, you know, those qualities that it needs.”
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“I wasn't necessarily comparing myself to anybody else, but what I felt I was getting good at when I was doing the breakfast show was being responsive and being able to add lib situations and find the funny or find the quirk in, because on a breakfast show, you know, you're kind of riffing backwards and forwards with your co-host, you're responding to the day's news, you're talking about things that are going on in people's lives. And I realized that I could do that quite well without feeling self-conscious about what I was saying. I was able to kind of match my co-host quite well on those things. You'd had a lot more experience than me. The other stuff, there's a lot of stuff that you can learn to be good at. You can learn to read the news well, which I initially started out doing the news. And you can learn to edit a story because I was technically having to do those kinds of things. But I think that was something that was a little bit more ethereal and difficult to nebulous and difficult to kind of, you know, hone and train someone.”
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“Radio. This was a commercial radio station with real people living real lives, you know, and with mortgages. So their work was important. And I got there and he...”
2022-10-31 · The Diary of a CEO · Gabby Logan Opens Up About Her Heartbreaking Past · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Through meeting a guy at a New Year's Eve party the winter before I went to university, and I said to him, I really want to work in broadcasting. And he ran a radio station. He said, when you come to Durham, which was nine months later, make sure you come and see me and I'll give you some work experience. And I'd already done work experience on radio stations and newspapers. So I thought, so I waited about 10 minutes after arriving in Durham and I went to a phone box because we didn't have mobiles and filled it with my 10 pence pieces and had to wait for the receptionist to put me through. And I remember standing in the rain in Durham kind of waiting for him. And he said, oh, hello, because I think he was quite surprised that first of all I was calling before Fresh as Week had even started. But secondly, he was probably going, hang on a minute, where did I meet you? What? And he said, okay, come and see me, you know, next week or the week after and we'll have a chat about what it is you want to do. And that was it. That was my kind of the person I could just cling on to and get into somewhere that was a professional outfit. It wasn't student.”
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“Story sound Chance and bear a hero in the story. Ask someone else. How often do you say the word? I was very lucky because I was very lucky and we shrouded in this luck, you know, luck happened to us. And there is always an element of timing with things, isn't there? And I got my break at Metro.”
2022-10-31 · The Diary of a CEO · Gabby Logan Opens Up About Her Heartbreaking Past · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Leaving school and feeling good about myself. But that wasn't very productive in terms of good self-esteem. So I suppose that's how it kind of manifested itself. And again, there's that commitment thing to people and things. I suppose a feeling that I was losing empathy and that's really important thing to hang on to. While I wouldn't have expressed it as losing empathy at the time, it was losing patience. That's so trivial. But it's not trivial to that person. And having an understanding of that is really important. And actually using what you've learned about loss and grief in a more positive way and not such a destructive way.”
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“So not hanging at the time I was single and I was definitely not attracting the right people into my life. And I was not going out with people who were enhancing me as a person or my life because why would I want to have any kind of long-term commitment with anybody who treat me well or be nice to me because I was, you know, I wasn't going to commit to something. So I may as well be with somebody who wasn't that nice to me, who didn't make me feel good about myself because it was all very transient. So I wasn't giving, I wasn't giving myself any kind of chance of that happening because of my kind of charging through, you know. And actually, okay, if you're horrible to me, that's fine. I've dealt with this. I can, you know, but that's not really good for your kind of deep self-esteem. You know, we talk about earlier you talked about how I had good self-esteem leaving.”
2022-10-31 · The Diary of a CEO · Gabby Logan Opens Up About Her Heartbreaking Past · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT