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  1. “Exactly. I think these are issues that are not really the issues that political parties focus on today, but they are issues which are so important in the minds of our citizens. So I'll try to convince them that we have the responses.”

    2025-06-22 · The Rest Is Politics: Leading · 140. The Next President of France? Gabriel Attal on Macron, Le Pen, and Israel-Iran · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  2. “Citizens of French people want is kind of basic. They want to be able to know that next year they will earn more thanks to their work and so because they will progress in their work and they want their children to have a better life than they have. It's quite actually a quite simple expectation. And behind that you have education. So I would push for way more reforms and investments in our education system. You have labor or working issues, how you get more money from your work, and especially more money from working than from non-working. How do we answer to this question, which is very important, especially in the young generation, which is the conciliation between personal life and working”

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  3. “Advocating for the Frexit, I think they understand and they feel that a majority of French people are pro-European, especially with what we are seeing in the world today. And so they completely change their speech. Now they're saying we don't want to leave the EU. But when you look at their program, there's not a single proposal that can be placed or that can be implemented within the EU. It's actually more difficult than it was before to attack populism when they have a completely different speech, which is not what you can find in their program. But I think before looking at them and talking about them, we have to talk about ourselves. We have to be quite blunt about what we failed. And we failed some things, especially on security issues, migration issues. And we have to talk about the positive program we want for the country. I think what French”

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  4. “Been working very hard with elected officials, with experts, with French citizens on our program. We just released three weeks ago our program on security immigration. We'll be releasing in two weeks our program on the economy and the support to workers. And I think it's with new ideas and ideas on topics that people are waiting for us to act that will be able to convince them. And, you know, the difficulty we have in France, and I think it's different than what we're seeing in other European countries where we see far right populist movements rising, is that Rassemblement Nationale in France has been rising by completely changing their speech. The program is still the same. But for instance, in 2017, Rassemblement National, Front National at that time, was”

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  5. “I think what we need is to be able to create a new hope for a French citizen. I think the main failure of my party and of us over the last years is that we became a party that was more against the extremes and the populists than a party for a project and a vision that was able to gather people together around a project. My main goal and my main work and activity right now is to completely rebuild our party. Beginning by the ideas.”

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  6. “Very long, and we had some crisis, we had the COVID, we had the gilets jaunes crisis, which happened just after he was elected president, but was actually the fault of years and years of wrong decisions on some issues. So that would be my explanation. And you know, in France, I think in the opinion, in the end, when people are mad on some decisions or they blame the president because it's the only one they all elect directly. Prime Minister is not elected directly by the French citizen.”

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  7. “Well, I think we have different personalities. We are not clones. And I think on some issues, well, I might be more concerned or maybe more radical on some issues than he used to be when he was campaigning in 2017 and after, especially on the security and justice issues, I've been pushing for being stronger on these issues with kind of radical proposals, maybe on other issues also. I will show that we are different and I think it's sane that we are not all the same in politics. Then on popularity, he's been in office since eight years, which is very, very long. He's the first president to be re-elected while having a majority. He had a French president re-elected before. But they were re-elected after not having the power in the government and in the parliament because there was the cohabitation. So it's very...”

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  8. “And I think Twist, I will try and advocate. The ideas. You don't have today in the French politics another party which is pro-European, liberal, firm on security, immigration, justice, and concerned by the environment and ecology. You don't have other parties with these ideas. And I think that you can convince a majority of French people with these main values and goals.”

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  9. “I think that what was opened in the French political system with Macron's election is first a method, the idea of having people coming from the left, from the right, from the center, from everywhere, working together on common issues and with common values. It's quite new in French politics, and I think it will last. I think that's what a majority of French people are waiting for. And I think what we had before, which was this system with the left-wing party and the right-wing party competing even though on some issues they were agreeing, but they couldn't say it. And when the right-wing party comes in power, it has to cancel what the left-wing party did when they were in power because it was the left-wing party who did it, etc., etc. I don't think people are waiting in France for this to come back. So first a method.”

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  10. “First, my relation, I'm loyal to Emmanuel Macron. It's thanks to him that I was able to commit in politics nationally without him. I wouldn't have become an MP. I wouldn't have joined the government and I wouldn't have been prime minister. So I'm completely aware of that. And I also see that we made inference thanks to him very important things economically. We finally had a policy regarding taxations and competitiveness for our companies. We never saw in France before. We had some transformations on the labor market, retirement pension system. That was very important. I'm loyal, but I'm free as well. I'm not prime minister anymore. I'm now the leader of my party. And so now I'm also preparing for... For the future. The second question you had was about what we call macronism.”

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  11. “It's a time where we have to build bridges and strengthen our ties with countries that share our values. We saw, when we see what's happening in the US, we see the very aggressive economy policy that China has. We see the huge threats on our security on the continent with Russia. So we need to move closer together, even with countries which are not EU members. And I think the renewed path we have with the UK today, the partnership that was signed in May, and I think more will be coming with the president's state visit in a few days now or weeks. I think it's a good sign, even though I have to say it and I have to tell it, my dream is that my generation will be the one that see the UK rejoining the EU. That would be, for me, a dream. Possible”

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  12. “To work not with all the members of the EU, but sometimes with countries which are not EU members. And what we are seeing today on defense, on the support to Ukraine with the coalition of volunteers that Emmanuel Macron with Prime Minister Starmer and others, and Norway was in it. I think it's an interesting idea to go further on some issues, but I still think that the EU has a future. And actually, I think that if we want to be stronger, if we want to be able to compete with the US and with China on industry, on innovation, on AI, if we don't want to become the holiday resorts or the retirement house for the world, an American or Chinese colony, On innovation, we must act on a European level and we need the EU for that.”

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  13. “To do better. And we also have the planets aligned because it's our vision and our line in France with the president. And it's also the new German Chancellor's idea, I think, to do more on the European level. But I also think that we must have this ⁇ la carte, as you say, in French, the possibility on some issues or some topics.”

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  14. “You said, I think we have this huge momentum. I think the EU is losing its naiveness on many issues, on our sovereignty, our independence, our industry, our ability to work closer together and to invest together on defense, on innovation, AI, etc. I think we can see the end of this naiveness with the decisions that are being taken by the European Commission on the deregulation issues in order to lower some regulations that were taken over the last years or decades which don't allow our companies to invest or innovate as they should. I think we are seeing some important reforms on the EU level, such as the new Pact for Asylum and Migrations. And the new Commission has plans in order to...”

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  15. “Writing and saying that Marine Le Pen, the far right partier Assemble Montational, would have an absolute majority. Everyone, every pause indicated that they would have an absolute majority. And we campaigned me with my candidates for three weeks. And in the end, even though we did not win this election, because I would be Prime Minister still, even though we did not win these elections, the far right didn't win these elections and they actually have less MPs than we have.”

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  16. “Yeah, of course. Many things crossed my mind because it was so, I don't know, it was so shocking, so unexpected and the way the decision was built also without me being aware of it. And I was the prime minister from the president's party, it was completely ununderstandable for me. But it lasted 24 hours. And then I thought, if I'm not campaigning, if I'm resigning, how will my MPs from my party campaign? How will them be able to convince voters that we have a chance on these elections? So I decided to run again, to campaign. Everyone, I say everyone in every newspapers at the beginning of the campaign were”

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  17. “Can't do anything. Yeah, there's no majority, and even no relative majority, because in France we have a system where we are used to have absolute majorities for President elected. Few times in the history, we had what we call a relative majority, which means your party by itself doesn't have an absolute majority, but you can have a few MPs from another party to help you. There's no majority to overrule your government. So that happened a few times, and that's what actually was the situation while I was prime minister. But we never had the situation we have today, which is even no relative majority. So I kind of foresaw what would be happening and I was saddened by that, but I decided to campaign. I hesitated, I have to say, for 24 hours. I thought of leaving office and leaving politics. But I thought that”

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  18. “It was more for the country because immediately when I knew that elections were coming, I knew what would happen and that we would have this situation we have today and we face today in the French parliament, which is a parliament completely, I don't know. Complete more destruction majority completely”

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  19. “Many things were said about this decision and about the fact that I wasn't aware of this decision and that the president told me his decisions a few minutes before telling the French citizens. And so I don't really like commenting again this issue. But of course I was more saddened than angry. And actually not saddened for me as a prime minister because I offered my resignation to the president immediately when we had the results of the European elections and when he announced that he would call for snap elections. I offered him my resignation telling him instead of calling for snap elections accept my resignation. We lost the European elections so people will understand that I resign and you appoint another prime minister. So it wasn't for me staying as a prime minister.”

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  20. “It's very difficult to describe or to put words on it. It's something you feel when you shake hands with someone, when you have a discussion with someone. It's more magnetic than something you can completely understand or describe.”

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  21. “I welcome them. I shared a few moments with them. I had more moments with Justin Trudeau, Laf Scholz and Marc Rutter. Yeah, it's different personalities, but two personalities where I think embodying how powerful countries.”

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  22. “You know, Joe Biden, I welcomed him for the D-Day celebrations, the 80th anniversary in Normandy. And it was such a powerful moment. You had all these European and abroad leaders and allies brought together to commemorate such important day in our history. And if I'm in London today on this 18th of June, it's because I came to commemorate the important speech of the General de Gaulle on the BBC here in London on June the 18th, 1940. It was a very strong moment. It was actually at the end of Joe Biden's term. Before actually he announced that he will not be running, I think a few days or a few weeks before. But it was at the end of his term.”

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  23. “I think neither an advantage or a disadvantage actually. You know, in France, foreign affairs are more handled by the president than the prime minister. It's what we call the domain reserv ⁇. But I met with some counterparts, I met with Justin Trudeau, with Olaf Scholz, with Marc Route, who was at that time prime minister in the Netherlands, with Joe Biden, who I welcomed in Paris for the D-Day commemorations with President Xi Jinping. I never felt that my age was an issue in a sense or another. No one ever mentioned actually my age. And so I think it's quite positive.”

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  24. “Presented as a part of the national politicians. So after Macron's election in 2017, we were 30 under 30 elected in the parliament. And that actually changed quite culturally, I think, politics. And today you see young people on important responsibilities in every party. So to answer your question, I never felt like Patronized or undermined”

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  25. “Well, first, you know, before me, there was Emmanuel Macron who arrived very young, and he became president, which is higher than prime minister. So he kind of led the way. And I think he actually made it more easy for young people like me to gain responsibilities in politics. Before his election in 2017, there was only one MP in the French National Assembly under 30 years old. And it was Marianne Le Pen, the niece of Marine Le Pen, the traditional political parties, even on the right or on the left. They never let before young people getting responsibilities in national politics. And I don't say you need only young people in national politics. I just say that young people are a part of the population, so they deserve to be represented.”

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  26. “You would not accept it. What you are showing is that, and what this question shows with what I mentioned about Algeria and other countries in the EU shows that it's a global issue that needs to be taken on a European level. That's what we have been trying to do with the new asylum and migration pact in the EU in order to help other European countries, especially the first countries concerned with migration, to be more efficient. But I think there's also this issue of the attractiveness of the UK system for many migrants who just want to cross some European countries and go to the UK. You don't have as many controls of ID here as you have in other countries, but it's because also of the model, and I don't completely respect that.”

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  27. “Then we have agreements that were signed. We have the two key agreements and we have cooperation. So let me go just on what is going wrong. So first I think we have to look at what's happening with these taxi boats and take the decisions that need to be taken in order to have our police officers being able to intervene more quickly. And on the second, I think there are also some issues in the UK on the attractiveness of the UK for migrants. I don't remember if the figure is completely right, but I think it's like 30% of the migrants who cross Europe who want to go to the UK, which has some sort of an attractive system.”

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  28. “I think, first of all, we should authorize the marine, the security on sea to apprehend people even if they go on a taxi boat and to push them back in France when we are in French waters.”

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  29. “Think everyone is doing their best, but we can do better and on each side. What we are seeing today first is a human or humanitarian disaster. We can't forget that last year, I think 80 people lost their lives in the channel while trying to cross. So it's a disaster. It's families, it's children, it's terrifying. The problem we have today, I think, is this phenomena of what we call taxi boats. The difficulty for the French police to apprehend people, to forbid people from going if they go by swimming and then they join a boat.”

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  30. “Actually, we've been trying many things in 2021. I think some decisions were made about visas for the Algerian population. We had visa restrictions on Algeria in order to push for the Algerian governments to cooperate more with the French authorities didn't really work. So now there have been some new discussions, I believe. at some point we must put on the line the deals and agreements we have with Algeria regarding many issues regarding immigration legal immigration you know we have some specific agreements with Algeria because we have a specific history with Algeria of course but I think we have to put these issues on the line in order to put pressure on the Algerian regime so We get the regime to cooperate more with France in order to take back some citizens that should not stay in France”

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  31. “Actually, the difficulty we have is the countries. Have some people that we should expel from France and we took all the administrative decisions to expel them, but to expel someone to his country of origin, you need to receive a document from his country of origin allowing you to expel him.”

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  32. “Now, on the fourth, I was coming to that, is quite Firm regarding security and immigration. I think we need immigration. We need immigration for our economy. We need immigration because France has many countries built itself also with immigration. But we need to pilot our immigration. And that's what's very difficult today in France and in many countries. We are not piloting enough our immigration. We have people coming to France who shouldn't come to France and we are people that should be expelled from France that we cannot expel. But we also have people coming to France who we want to welcome but we don't welcome good enough in France.”

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  33. “I think the needed changes in the French public services or in the regulation must be built by working with unions, civil society and trying to build the changes and transformations with the ones who represent workers, companies, etc. So I think in the method there was some sort of a brutality on some decisions that I don't think were actually that useful to have profound and long-term changes. So to finish just liberal, but also regarding society, the women's rights, gay rights, and we are passing a bill in the National Assembly right now. I think there's a bill as well in the UK regarding how you end your life. When you can't be cured, so I think it's new rights important in a society.”

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  34. “I wouldn't say that, you know, Tony Blair has been an inspiration for many, even in French politics. So yes, it's more on that. So economically, but also regarding society.”

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  35. “I believe that if you want to create wealth, if you want to finance a social model, if you want to finance public services, you need to have growth, economic activity. And if you want that, you need to free the companies and to let the companies have the means to create jobs, to innovate, to invest.”

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  36. “And with proposals built together. And so I immediately joined his party because it was the political offer I was waiting for. How would I define myself today first as a strong pro-European? And it's not really shared in many parties today. Then as a liberal, then as”

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  37. “Actually, I joined the Socialist Party just after my high school because it was the party that was, that seemed to be the closest to my beliefs. But whilst I joined the socialist party, I always advocated for, I don't know how to say it in English, but de passment politique the possibility to build some ties with centrist parties or even center-right parties. But the political offer of Macron didn't exist at that time when I joined the Socialist Party. So yes, it was under the idea of social democracy. And then Emmanuel Macron created his own party with the idea to make people from center-left to center right work together on common challenges.”

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  38. “And I think the purpose of the Republic and the responsibility of politics is to set some rules when you see things that could be destabilizing the Republic.”

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  39. “Wrong because you know I don't do a difference between Muslim people and the others. I do a difference between young people and the others. When you're a child, you must have the right to learn about society, to learn what some signs signify, especially when it comes to women covering themselves, before making a decision. A free woman in France decides to cover herself and to wear a headscarf or the veil, it's her right, I don't have anything to say about that. We are talking about children and we had, you know, if I had took this position and I made this proposal because we had a very important official study in France showing that we are seeing growing in the many parts of France children of age 5 or 6 wearing a headscarf.”

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  40. “You know, when I took this decision, I didn't think of this decision politically or with a political sense. I believe that this decision was respecting the rules of the Republic, the French Republic. And when you talk to French citizens or when you look at the polls, you see that the importance of secularism, laicite, and of these decisions is quite the same amongst the left-wing voters, the right-wing voters or the far-right voters. So I don't see it as a political decision.”

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  41. “Some people wrote at that time that I was isolated, and many people said it's impossible to implement. And two years after, I don't see any criticisms anymore. And I only see people supporting the decision I made at that time because we managed to solve a problem that was been raising for years and years.”

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  42. “You are not really free to live a religion because you are still on the way to learn what religions are and to learn what it means to wear a headscarf or to decide to do something that shows what your beliefs are. And that's why in France since 2004 we have a law that bans all the religious signs in our schools, including crosses, all the religious signs that can be seen. And what we've been seeing over the last years in France is that there's been a push organized to push young girls to wear abayas in order to show a religion in the schools.”

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  43. “Well, I believe, and I'm a strong advocate for what we call in France laicit ⁇, secular reason, the French view of secularism. And laicite in France means that you must give everyone the freedom to believe and the freedom to live its own religion as they want. But what I believe is that when you are young children,”

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  44. “Think the situation is really difficult today, and I was a few weeks or months ago in Israel and in the Palestinian territories. So I met with many people there, and we see that what happened on October 7, what's been happening since, radicalized positions on each side. But I think it has to remain the goal because I don't see any other possibility. I don't see any other possibility to make it to peace in this territory. Is it possible or can it happen early or in the coming weeks? Of course not. There are still Israeli hostages in Gaza. The Hamas is still there. Some countries are not recognizing the rights for Israel to exist. So it's quite kind of impossible today, but I think it has to remain the goal because I don't see any other serious plan or proposals. That can make peace happen in the region.”

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  45. “Course, and you've seen that French position is quite clear regarding what's happening in Gaza. And we've been actually France and President Macron denunciating the humanitarian situation in Gaza today. And France is still calling for a ceasefire and we've been one of the first countries to call for a ceasefire. Remember R ⁇ sid ⁇ n Macron called for a ceasefire quite early before many other Western countries and we are still advocating for a two-state solution.”

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  46. “I believe the intelligence that were given to the leaders and especially to President Macron who make him and others supporting the rights of Israel to intervene in Iran must be sufficient to stand for this position.”

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  47. “I don't think it's connected with anti-Semitism. I think President Macron's position, which is a position shared by many other leaders, and I saw that the G7 signs a shared statement supporting the right of Israel to defend itself. I think it's linked to the situation we are seeing in Iran and the fact that Iran seem to be closer than ever to the possibility”

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  48. “It's like Alastair just said, my father always told me, even though you're not Jewish because you were brought up in a Christian family with the mother, you will feel Jewish because you will experience anti-Semitism because of your name. And that's actually what I lived and what I'm still living. But of course there is a strong anti-Semitism in France. Always has been and it now has a different form than it used to be. We have now some far left movements in France and politicians that actually have words that encourage anti-Semitism. So I think it's a sad reality we are facing right now and we still have to fight on this issue.”

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  49. “Don't know need to act for my generation and the generations coming. And one of the goals I have in politics is to help every young people to be able to choose their own path, to move up in society and education is key for that.”

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