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  1. really fast and say no, sweetie, you've never looked more beautiful I might have just lied, but I just spared my partner my wife's feelings. So for many, many things, it makes perfect sense that we all wear our consequentialist hat. But there are certain principles that are foundational that by the very definition of that principle have to be the ontological. Freedom of speech is the ontological. The pursuit of truth has to be the ontological. Presumption of innocence in the justice system has to be the enthological, right? Journalistic integrity, if you truly are a truth reporter, has to be the ontological. But what have we seen throughout the last four or five years? Let me show you violations of these. I believe in freedom of speech, but not for Donald Trump. The ontological principle.

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  2. Forbidden knowledge is the idea that there is some knowledge that should not be pursued precisely because of your staircase, it's going to result in negative downstream effects. I argue that that's a grotesquely dangerous principle. Why? So here I'm going to introduce the term and explain it, which I've mentioned earlier. In ethics, there are two ethical systems. There is what's called deontological ethics and consequentialist ethics. Deontological ethics is absolute statements like Kantian imperatives. It is never okay to lie. That would be a deontological statement. A consequentialist statement would be it is okay to lie to spare someone's feelings. So I always joke if you want to have a long, happy marriage when you hear the following question do I look fat in those jeans put on your consequentialist hat.

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  3. Exponentially over represented Yes. Now we can say it's because it's white supremacy that causes black men to kill white people, or we could say could there be any causative agents that if we are caring decent people, maybe we should talk about openly. Well, in today's world, I couldn't even, I say, I don't give a shit, but most people would say, don't even say that there's a greater incidence of black criminality. That itself is racist and you're marginalizing people. So that's why I don't believe in the concept of forbidden knowledge.

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  4. Right. Well, the way I would address that is I would defeat that statement with science. So I would say, can you show me the data that suggest that dispositionally, meaning innately, what would be the mechanism by which black men are higher than white men? Now, if you show it, great, but I'm willing to bet you can't show it. Therefore, what you just stated is a bunch of bullshit. And you know how you're going to suffer are the social consequences of sigma of being a racist asshole. But I let you say it, but I'll defeat your idea. On the other hand, if you said, if we look at patterns of criminality in the United States, are black men

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  5. So up and down England and every town that you can think of, big or small for the past thirty plus years there has been an industrial scale level grooming and raping of white British girls. The perpetrators are ninety percent plus on the conservative estimate ninety percent coming from one background and one ideology. Is it marginalizing and insulting to identify that ideology?

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  6. Okay, so let me draw a thing. Let's suppose I were a white supremacist or neo-Nazi. If I get up on a show and say, Judaism is a croc of shit. It's useless. It's the most disgusting religion. Totally okay. Freedom of speech. If I say later tonight at the corner of Lexington and Sixth Avenue there is a synagogue. Let's go when they come out of service and beat the hell out of those Jews if not kill them. That's not okay. Now it has to be direct incitement to violence. So you can't say criticizing Judaism or Islam can create Islamophobia. Bullshit. No ideology is above scrutiny. No belief system is above scrutiny. Your feelings are hurt F off grow a pair So as long as you don't say, let's kill the Jews, spend all the rest of your life criticizing Judaism, that's your right.

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  7. Now she told me stories of whatever, but she said that she says I never knew if it was true and we only discussed it that one time and we never discussed it again she said that no she wasn't. Now I don't know if Lied about that. She said some other really bad things. I mean, I'm not going to get into all of it, but I've always wondered whether she said that just so that, you know. Not exactly, you know, it's shame and so on. But I remember that if she had said yes, my thinking as a 15-year-old boy was that I would spend the rest of my life seeking vengeance on those assholes. So it wasn't a pleasant upbringing. I could tell you stories that you wouldn't believe. It would be much worse than Rambo. So now coming back to your freedom of speech issue and if it causes harm. I am Jewish with my personality.

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  8. I didn't know that they were kidnapped as it happened. I knew there was a lot of mayhem in the house and I was asking what's going on. They said, oh, mom and dad have some business issues. They were lying to me to protect me. I'm 15 years old. Although there was a kid at school in my high school whose parents were very good friends of my parents, also Lebanese Jews, he knew that my parents were kidnapped. I didn't know they were kidnapped. And later I found out that as he saw me in high school walking around and laughing and joking, he thought, boy, this guy is made of ice. I mean, he's callous that he's taking it so relaxed, but actually I didn't know that this, he knew, but I didn't know. My biggest speak about evolutionary psychology and the male mindset, my biggest fear was whether my mother Other had been raped.

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  9. Inside captivity. You can imagine they were tortured. Mother, I've seldom said this, I'm only saying it because you're asking. My biggest fear when I found out the story after the fact, I didn't even know they were.

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  10. Lebanon under very, very difficult conditions. Once we emigrated to Montreal, Canada, my parents. Maybe they regret it now, kept returning to Lebanon because we still had business interest and full-fledged, brutal, massive war on one of their return trips in 1980. They were kidnapped by Fatah, which is one of the Palestinian factions. Some really bad things happened to them. But then, luckily, through the connections that we had, we were able to get them out.

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  11. Screaming was death to Jews, death to Jews. So I turned to my mother and I say, why are they screaming? What do we have to do with this? Don't put your head out, okay? So that was my first time where I saw, wait a minute, there are people out there that want me dead because I'm Jewish. Fast forward a few years later, we're in class and the teachers, this is pre-Civil War. The Civil War started in 75. Sitting in class teacher says to everybody, please stand up and say what you want to be when you grew up. I want to be a policeman. I want to be a doctor. I want to be a soccer player. One kid gets up who I've known through all the years of elementary school who knew I was Jewish. When I grow up, I want to be a jew killer, to raucous applause and laughter and so on. Then the Lebanese war broke out. It became impossible to be Jewish in Lebanon.

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  12. So I was born in Lebanon in the sixties. Lebanon was historically referred to as the Paris of the Middle East progressive tolerant Lebanon. Progressive tolerant in the context of the Middle East, which means something very different than progressive and tolerant in the West. And you'll see in a second why. When I was five years old, Gamal Abdel Nasser, who was the president of Egypt, who was a very popular figure in the Arab world because he was what's called a pan-Arabist, meaning he was trying to unify the Arab people under one umbrella, right? To hopefully defeat the pesky Jews and so on. He passed away. When he passed away when I was five years old, as so often happens in the Middle East, people take to the streets to scream and shout and burn and lament and so on. And as they were proceeding down my street where I lived as a five year old child

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  13. That's a great question. So, I am a free speech absolutist. And so let me explain what that means. We didn't get into my personal history. I'll just give it for the relevance of what I'm about to say. I was born in Lebanon. I grew up in Lebanon and we escaped Lebanon under imminent death because of being Jewish. My Jewish identity caused me to come close to being eradicated.

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  14. And the reason for that is everything is shackled by biases. Everything is shackled by subjectivity. So to speak of an objective truth with a capital T is nonsense. Everything is subjective. And therefore, I argue in the book that all of these parasitic ideas originally started with a noble goal. And in the service of that goal, if there has to be a collateral damage called truth, so be it. It's a worthwhile collateral damage in this service of that higher social justice goal. No, it's a deontological principle. It's an absolute, right? So you never pursue science in a biased manner. Freedom of speech is available to all. It's not, I believe, in freedom of speech, but not for Donald Trump. Then you're being a consequentialist. So that's what the book is about. It traces the history.

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  15. To argue that human beings cannot only be parasitized by actual physical brain worms, they can be parasitized by ideological brainworms. And so, continuing the metaphor, I said, so what are these parasites? Postmodernism is a parasitic idea. So postmodernism, actually, I argue that that is the granddaddy of all parasitic ideas, because postmodernism purports that there are no objective truths other than the one objective truth that there are no objective truths.

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  16. So, a parasite is usually literally a brainworm. So for example, toxoplasma gondi is a parasite that can infect human minds, but it most famously infects the minds of mice when they are parasitized in their brains by this parasite, they become sexually attracted to cats and their urine, which is not a good cat. Yeah, so let me give you a few examples. There's a wood cricket, an actual cricket, that abhors water. It doesn't like, it stays clear of water. When it is parasitized by a hairworm, this hairworm needs to get the wood cricket to jump in water.

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  17. of study that explores this host parasite dynamic where the parasite is trying to enter the host's brain, alter its circuitry to suit its interest.

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  18. So, one of the things that you do as an evolutionary scientist when you're trying to understand the evolutionary signature of a behavior, you often will compare it across species. Remember earlier I talked about testis size across primates and so it was many different species and that allows you to then draw a final principle based on comparing all those species. So I started looking through the animal literature to look for something that might explain why do animals do insane things. And so that's when I fell on the field of parasitology, which is just the study of parasites. But I wasn't looking for because a tapeworm is a parasite, but it goes into your intestinal tract. I wanted the parasites that go into your brain. Those are called neuroparasites. And it turns out that there's a very, I mean, it's almost like science fiction. There's a whole field.

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  19. Right. So it all began, as we mentioned earlier in our chat, when I saw the rejection of biology in explaining human affairs, which is something that I call biophobia, the fear of using biology to explain human affairs. And at the time, it was in the service of the scientific work that I was doing. What do you mean your desk rejecting my paper at a journal because you don't think that biology is relevant to consumer behavior? How could it be otherwise? That's insane. So that's when I was first exposed to the possibility of a human mind being parasitized, right? Now let me explain why I use the parasitic framework, how I came up with that.

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  20. That'd be so cool. And please share with those. Well, by the way, what we're doing right now is what I call, so in the happiness book, I have a chapter called Life as a Playground. And I argue that science is the highest form of play. Because when you're doing a 1,000-piece puzzle, which piece goes with what? Well, what's science? There's a bunch of variables floating around. Does this one correlate with this one? Does this one cause this one or the other way? I'm just playing. Now, and I'm getting paid for it, how could I not be happy?

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  21. So, if I'm running a study, I just need male and female adults to run a study on this task. It ends up being a few cents. And so it has opened up the velocity at which we can do research, scientific research, not just stuff I post on Twitter. Scientific research, it has increased it tenfold. So you can certainly do that.

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  22. Not absolutely so many studies now, scientific studies are conducted online and they can be conducted online in exactly the way that you said. You use existing social portals to have a big wave of data collection, but there are other ways, by the way. Have you heard of MTT? So M Turk is a platform where people sign up to be participants, right? Now let's say I'm a researcher and I say I want men over 18 years old. Well, that's easier to get than if I were to say, I want men who are over eighteen years old, shorter than six feet and from Lithuania and their diabetic. Now, depending on how I structure my criteria of inclusion, The price that I have to pay for getting those participants will go up.

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  23. Boom, there's your thesis for your undergraduate psychology degree, which you will pursue and send me an email that I deserve the credit for having forced you to run.

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  24. By the way, both my wife and I are last borns. So to the assortative mating, and I'm not sure if that's been done. And if it hasn't been done, it'd be very easy to do. So here's an experiment. If anybody steals it, I better get the credit. You just look at a thousand marriages, calculate their satisfaction score, their happiness score, and then see if there is a sort of mating on birth ordership.

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  25. It's probably both. I think it's a bit of both. But yeah, I haven't been, I know that your team had asked me, what are some questions that we could ask that no one else? Well, certainly pulling up that birth order one, you've succeeded on asking me a question that I certainly haven't been asking a long time. So kudos to

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  26. So, all that to say, that based on that, one could surmise that if openness to experience is correlated to happiness, then the latter borns would score happier.

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  27. Sulloway argued that that forces the lastborn to score differently on key personality traits, one of which is open to experience. So he argued that later borns up to last borns, by virtue of having to solve that original problem will end up being much bigger out of the box thinkers, not being stuck unconformity, unorthodoxy, hence in the context of scientific innovations, the last borns are the ones who say, not this is bullshit, I'm going this way. And so I tested that theory in a consumer psychology setting, where I demonstrated that lasborns were much more likely to be product innovators and early product adopters. So I took the exact framework, but instead of applying it to radical scientific innovations, I applied it to radical product innovations and adoptions.

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  28. niche partitioning hypothesis When you start off your firstborn all of the niches are unoccupied there is the I'm a good boy niche I'm a rebel niche, I'm a, right? There are many, many, there's a penalty of niches that are unoccupied. So I'm firstborn. I'm going to pick whichever one. The secondborn is born, There is n minus one niches, one is taken, so the I'm a good boy niche, I gotta differentiate myself. I'm segin', I'm an asshole niche. I'm a contrarian niche. Let's keep going down the birth order. There are fewer and fewer unoccupied niches left for laterborns, especially if the sip ship is big,

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  29. When we study the psychological effects of birth order, it's from the perspective of the parents' behavior to the child as a function of their birth order. First child, I'm very strict. Second child, I'm getting tired. Fifth child run the streets. I don't give a shit. So that's the causal causality of the birth artifact. He flipped the whole thing. He said, no, no, no, much of the impetus of the birth order effect is coming from the child, and let me explain how. He said that one of the fundamental survival problems, it's an evolutionary theory, one of the fundamental survival problems that a child faces is to differentiate itself from all other siblings to etch maximal investment from the parents. How do I do that? So that's called the Darwinian.

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  30. who wrote a book which I highly recommend to all your viewers It's a bit technical but you can get through it. It's called Born to Rebel. It's a book that explores historically the people who've generated the biggest breakthrough radical scientific innovations and what was their birth order. And it turns out not unlike how you did it with the ten and eight of them were last born, out of the twenty eight most radical scientific innovations ever posited, twenty three out of the twenty eight were the last born later borns. Now, so then the question is, okay, well, fine, that's just a phenomenon, but what explains it? Now, the explanation is mind-blowing. You ready? So Frank Solloway argued that typically

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  31. Love it. So let me tell you the background to that theory. Okay. Which I've done my own research on and published work on it. But the original theory comes from Frank Solloway, who's a historian of science.

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  32. So let me explain, let me step before I answer that and the way you frame the question, let me explain what the mechanism is, okay?

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  33. typed it's blank, and then through the magic of creation, creative impulse, a year later I pressed the send button, a year later you're consuming that book. That has to be a direct path to purpose and meaning. Now that doesn't mean that the actuarial scientist, your brother, doesn't have a worthy life, but surely a person who wakes up, who's an artist, who's an author, By the nature of him creating, says Oh, I can't wait to get to the studio. I doubt that maybe not your brother. I doubt that most actuarial scientists go, I'm going to get into that actuarial table today. Like there's no tomorrow. I'm going to spank that actuarial table.

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  34. Do try to resolve that if you can. Number two, which is going to speak to a purpose and meaning, I argue that all other things equal, any job that allows you to instantiate your creative impulse is a direct path to purpose and happening, purpose and meaning. What do I mean by that? A stand-up comic is creating a routine that until he came along we didn't have. A chef is creating a dish out of nothing. An architect is creating that bridge that didn't exist before. An author, remember earlier we were talking, I think it was off air and you were saying, how long did it take or what was the process? I said, you know, there's something magical about writing a book, right? Because there literally is a day where you open the laptop, you open a Word document. That Word document, which eventually you're going to call the parasitic mind, save, doesn't have a single lesson.

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  35. Once the door shuts, the next sixteen hours from LA to Singapore, it's set, right? I mean, literally temporarily in terms of time, physically, I'm stuck, right? That to me is unthinkable. I float through life. I work harder than most people, but I do it in my own way. Right now, I'm going to go to a cafe and work on a book prospectus. Then I'm going to go train for an hour. Then I'm going to go read for three hours. And that temporal, I don't have what I call scheduling asphyxia, right? That helps me.

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  36. Having a good partner and having a good job are the two ways that you can maximize happiness. I argue that the best way to achieve occupational happiness is two metrics, one of which is going to relate to purpose and meaning. Having temporal freedom? Other things equal is better than not having temporal freedom. Let me explain what I mean by that an airplane pilot.

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  37. That you elevate that consciousness is through purpose and meaning. So I'm a very happy, I mean, I should mention though that happiness about 50% of individual differences in happiness scores comes from our genes. But the good news is that it leaves 50% up for grabs, right? So I may be born with innately a more sunny disposition than you. So I'm now winning at the race. But if I don't Make good choices if I don't adopt good mindsets, then even though you started lower than me in an innate sense, you might surpass me. And so it really is an interaction of nature and nurture. Purpose and meaning. I may be answering it in an oblique way. I argue, and remember I said.

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  38. Right. So we've got a very big frontal lobe, right? So remember earlier I was talking about exaptation versus adaptation One argument for why we love literature so much is that our brains need nourishment via storytelling, and therefore that's an exactation. My brain expects to be fed stuff that keeps me engaged, and therefore literature is one way by which I eat that nourishment, to use the food analogy, right? I suspect that because we are sentient beings, right, we're not beings that are only driven by instincts of survival and reproduction, right? I mean, all animals have to solve two problems. Survive and reproduce, right? That's it. That's the entire game of life. But because we have consciousness, because we have meta knowledge, because we are sentient, there needs to be more to life than simply having sex and reproducing. And therefore, the way

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  39. My wife and a complete reversal of the typical stereotypes of male and female, you give my wife an empty can of tuna and a soccer ball. She'll make a rocket and she'll fly you to Mars. She is unbelievably in French, you say de Bruillard. She knows how to put things together and so on. And I'm just mesmerized by her ability to do this. For me, for all my fancy academic stuff, take a light bulb. It'll probably take me four weeks before I figure how it works. She's already built a rocket. She's basically Elon Musk of the sad household. I greatly admire that in her, and it's something that I possess very little.

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  40. I call her MacGyver. Do you remember who MacGyver was MacGyver was a show in the nineteen eighties, I think, where he was reputed to be able to put things together. He's in a pickle, he's in a cell, so he takes soap and cuts it up to cut the bar.

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  41. The most fundamental deontologic, right? I mean, what, you know, my wife loves the fact that I'm a truth teller. My wife loves the fact that I have purity in my, right? She appreciates the fact that similar with her. Like, for example, we both have never been the type to seek to trigger jealousy in the other. Many people will say, oh, you know, if when you trigger jealousy, that spicy things up, right? My wife has never a single time done a single thing, but that's because she has a standard of personal conduct that's very elevated.

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  42. My apologies. No, look, I'm not suggesting that there aren't Clear differences but if I were to distill, if I were to use statistical term, if I were to factor analyze your most fundamental life principles between you and your partner, do you think you're more alike or more different?

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  43. You exactly would guarantee here are the eight steps. I explain that life is a statistical game, right? There are statistical vagaries. So all I can do is increase your odds of obtaining happiness. I can't guarantee anything, right? You could never smoke and get lung cancer, but not smoking certainly reduces your chances of lung cancer greatly. Earlier I mentioned birds of a feather flock together versus opposites attract. Overwhelmingly, if you want to increase your chances of a happy marriage, remember the maxim birds of a feather flock together. Complementarity works really nicely in the short term. It doesn't sustain a long-term marriage. The butterflies, the hormones don't last when you've been in a marriage. That doesn't mean you're not still sexually attracted to your partner 25 years later, but that's not going to carry the train.

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  44. Not in the way Explaining the anecdote. Now, if I go off after I woke up to this lovely person, I go off and do things in my day-to-day activities that make me do existential glee. Oh boy, what a great day I have lined up. I'm going to be working on my next book. I've got diary of a CEO. That's going to be super fun. A lot of new people are going to hear about some of my ideas. Then I'm going to maybe have a chat with a graduate student on some really exciting research I'm doing. So wow. But yeah, man, there's a lot of stress, but it all gives me a lot of purpose and meaning. And then at night, I return to that lovely person. I've cracked the happiness code, right? Now, of course, the question is the devil is in the details. What can I do to maximize my chances that I make those right choices? I explain in the book, contrary to 99.9% of the quote, self-help prescriptive books where they tell you.

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  45. So I look at both decisions that we can make for happiness and mindsets. So let me maybe discuss a few of each. So by far the two choices that will either impart upon me the greatest happiness or the greatest misery is choice of spouse and choice of profession. And let's break it down very simply If I wake up next to a person in the bed and I go, oh goddamn, not this one again. I'm not off to a good start. If I wake up next to this, to that person and I go, oh my God, how did I pull that off? What a delight to wake up next to this person. Well, that's good.

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  46. Be attributed to a mismatch hypothesis. So I would tell your son, knowledge is power to our earlier point of you getting that degree. You never lose in knowing more, you being aware of the mismatch hypothesis, dear son, will allow you to hopefully not fall as easily into behavioral traps.

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  47. Wow, what a great question. So there is something called the mismatch hypothesis, an evolutionary theory, which basically says that many problems that we face today arise out of a mismatch of a phenomenon that was adapted in our ancestral past but is no longer adaptive in our contemporary modern world. Classic example to stick to food. We've evolved the gustatory preferences as a response to caloric scarcity and caloric uncertainty. Therefore, being attracted to fatty foods, gorging on a lot of food makes perfect evolutionary sense when we don't know when our next meal is coming from, when we live in an environment of plentitude, then that exact phenomenon becomes maladaptive. So if you look at, for example, I think the top eight or nine killers on the World Health Organization thing, they can all

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  48. A tonical thing. Hey, listen, you've been outside of, I mean, forgive me, I'm going to be very direct. You're not in a relationship. It's been six months since your last sexual encounter. You have certain libidinal drives. You decide to sit and watch some porn that one time. I don't think that makes you Lucifer. But if you spend six hours a day every day while your wife is saying, hey, are we going to get some sexy time tonight? And you go, my refractory period is such refractory is what happens when is the time between your last ejaculation and when you can get hard again. Well, if I just masturbated five times today, I'm probably not going to be up for it at night. And so again, it's a question of is it a dysfunction or is it part of the regular norm of behavior? So I don't think people have to feel so guilty about watching porn once in a while.

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  49. Right. So that makes me think that they are in the wrong side of that curve, right? They're already in dysregulation mode. Because if it were something that I'm, it's kind of like I eat one bad thing a month. That doesn't seem to be a bad issue. If I eat three bad things every single day, I will wake up 86 pounds overweight, right? So again, Aristotle taught us right thing, the right place, and the right amount. So I don't think that there's a deontological rule, and we can, if you want, explain what that means, there is no deontological rule that says under all circumstances. Now, maybe also, I'm not a religious puritan. Maybe if you're a religious puritan, you say, even watching one segment of porn, you're the devil. But from a non-sort of judgmental, non-

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  50. Motivation exactly Exactly right. And are those people that you're talking about? Are they ones that we would classify as being in a dysfunction? Or even if they watch porn once every four weeks, they're feeling great shame and they're self-flagellating.

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