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Gareth Southgate

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“They're relieved if they don't need to be on social media, they can leave their phone for days or so. But we have got to provide those alternatives. We have got to get people back into offices socializing three-day week, no good. There's seven days in a week if we're only working three, that balance isn't right. Young people learn by interacting in offices. You build teams by interacting. And if we're missing all of that socialization.”
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“Less after school sport, less youth clubs, less access to youth workers, mentors. So it's not just one fix. We can say, okay, nothing below the age of, and I think parents will start to do that because I think we're seeing a generation now, the first generation that's been through this social media mobile phone experience. And I think parents have felt uncomfortable about it for a long time. And now they're starting to say, but they don't want to be the first to stop their kid at school. It's creating tension for parents. But I think they will change that. And I think young people actually, when you talk to them,”
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“Messages out there in this space, for example. But there's also this aspect of What is a normal childhood now? You know, in our day, it was playing outdoors, it was failing, it was falling off bikes, so it was resilience building and socialization. And now, you know, I think we've really got to think about are we providing those spaces? Because why are kids going to? It's not phone, is it? It's a computer in your hand. Why are they going to social media where they're now finding poor role models? It's because the alternatives aren't as attractive for them.”
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“I think it's a little bit more complex than that. I mean, Jonathan Haight talks brilliantly about this. I've just ludicrously joined Instagram. So I'm not in the algorithm yet, so I'm not being thrown everywhere. Yeah, but you're flogging a book. But I'm flogging a book. But there's, I think there's going to be a chance to get.”
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“Definitely. I mean, at the start, I definitely read more at the beginning. And then I realized I needed to cut myself off from that because the danger is you get swayed by an opinion. And actually, Is there real knowledge behind that opinion? Is there real understanding of all of the issues that are in front of us? The longer I was in the role, there were moments where I did read more generally because I needed to be across some of those ideas. But definitely within tournaments, within camps, I removed myself from reading. Well being really, you know, I've seen or felt my mood change by reading something about me. And I think that's the case for young people. You know, that's one of the dangers of social media.”
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“Interestingly, Jack Cook's dad used to scalp for us with the under 21s Alan used to play for Wimbledon and Sheffield United. And when he was picked, he told Jack, enjoy this because this will be your first and your last. Jack shared that with me when he did.”
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“That's a great point, Rory Jack Court was a very good midfield player for Burnley. Now, a coach, and Burnley's last midfield player to play for England would have been, I don't know, 1960s or something like that.”
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“Am that in itself was reassuring. Everybody had insecurities really deep down. Nobody really wanted to admit to them. And I'm not afraid to throw that out there because I think it will help other people, young leaders who think I'm not ready, can I really do it? God, I never thought I'd be England manager if I can be England manager. Anybody can go and do anything.”
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“I'm not sure because I think with this one I was very clear having. Worked closely with a lot of business leaders, coaches, and other sports that a lot of the leadership aspects cross all walks of life, schools, businesses, the technical details are different, but generally you're building teams, you're managing people, you're building culture, you're performing under pressure. Everywhere I travel are facing those difficulties. Leadership in the modern world with social media, with media. I don't think it's ever been more difficult because there's an instant reaction to everything 24 hours a day so hard for people in those high profile leadership positions. You know, the more we share about those things and people say, yeah, I'm not the only one feeling that way. Because very often I travel and meet other coaches, sports leaders, Toto Wolf, Dave Brailsford, all these people. Right, they are actually facing the same problems.”
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“Something that's just a vote winner for him, it's something that he felt, you know, okay, how do we affect this and kind of come back when you've come up with some ideas? So doing a lot of research into what those ideas should be.”
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“If I'm just looking in football, because club situations, it all feels very small after the role I've had. That's why I found it fascinating talking to those ex-prime ministers. What did you do next? You had the biggest job. How do you plan the next stage of your life? Think I can make a difference because of the role I had gives me a profile that might be able to connect people around this area of working with young people and mentoring and maybe providing use spaces for kids to go to after school. So I feel like this is a point in my life to take a different direction and give something back in a different way. And I don't think that has to be politicized. I think that should be apolitical. And I did go and see Kir about this after Dimblebee. And what impressed me was that he saw that the same way. You know, this has got to stand a cross party.”
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“Well, because for their whole lives, every hour of their day has been basically mapped out for them. And they've been socially in a dressing room. They've been part of something, part of a clear community. And then you're on your own. I had a brief period because I went straight from playing to managing overnight. So I didn't have to have that reflection. But when I was sacked at Middlesbrough, it's the first time in my life I'd been unemployed. First time in my life, I'd been at home with the family there, but actually what's dad doing, you know, he's in the way, frankly. I'm the only bloke in the country that gets encouraged to go and play golf now. How do I find purpose in my life? I'd always been working towards something. And that's now at this moment of my life. That's the challenge I've found. Okay, I've had a very high profile role. And because it was for my country, it had real purpose. How do I replace that? And that is going to be very hard.”
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“I mean, we discussed earlier this transition for athletes that their whole identity is around being an athlete of some sort. And then they struggle for routine. They struggle for connection with people very often marriage is split.”
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“Person at 55 to think he could turn his hands to politics and have any impact. But I do want to help my country to be better. And I do, I hate the narrative when I turn the television on every morning. Our country's gone to the dogs. We should all be moving out. You know, we've got to give young people hope. And we've got so much talent and we're still a place where people because of our legal system want to build businesses. It's such an attractive place to come still. You know, surely we've got to get that message out rather than wear ourselves down with the other message.”
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“I do. Yeah, I do want to make a difference. But I think I've met, you know, there were five prime ministers in my time as England manager. I've also met Tony and John Major and David Cameron. So, you know, I have an awareness of that world. Also, we work very closely with Sir Michael Barber. Was on an advisory panel for us. His insight into how difficult it is to get things done, how it's very often the focus is on getting elected, but then when you're in power, it's so hard to, you know, how are you going to actually implement things? And I could relate to all of that.”
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“It fascinates me like I'm fascinated by the leadership aspect of it because clearly you're never going to vote anything other than neighbour. Rory's never going to be anything other than the other side. But there's a lot of, there are people who are kind of waiting to see, right, who's going to really impress us over the next period of time? Who do we want to lead us through? The majority of the country, a little bit like you like to think you know about football, but you don't really know any of the detail.”
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“That was actually we had a town hall with FA staff, so not just people that work with the England team, but broader FA. And this was the moment when they talked about the lack of representation in... Leading positions, and they talked a lot about white privilege. Initially, I was a bit offended because I thought, as you do as a naive white bloke, I worked bloody hard to get where I am. Do you realize how hard that's been? And then slowly as talk to my daughter, read the book, you suddenly realized, these moments where I just am able to walk down the street and not be conscious of my colour. There are other levels of things here that I haven't really had to consider. So what I said about Danny Rose growing up playing in Yorkshire, you know, those confrontational moments that people from minority communities face all the time that I never have to think about at all. So it was more that side of things that it made me, you know, it did lead me towards some of the other standpoints we took for broader unity, I suppose.”
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“I listen to you guys a lot. You talked about the Czech Republic and the number of Ukrainian. What were they going to do? Close the doors to those hundreds of thousands of people coming in. So it's incredibly complicated. There is no simple solution to any of that. And they're the moments where I look at Prime Minister's role and think, goodness me, good luck with all of that because it was hard enough just to get a left back and a right back together.”
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“Yeah, it's a question I'm probably not qualified to fully understand. What I would say about football and football support is for decades. They are a representation of broader community. So although people would say, Oh, it's football fans, I don't think that's actually correct. I think that is where certain communities are. Look, we're in difficult economic times. So to go back to Obama a couple of weeks ago, you know, he talked brilliantly about that disunity, that discord, those extreme views are always slightly under the surface. And there are certain moments when there's economic struggle or whatever that might be, where these things come to the fore and bubble up. And that's clearly where we're at. There's disaffection. There's a reason why people are unhappy. And we have to acknowledge that. We can't be dismissive of opportunities and hope for young people. All nations are going to be more transient. And immigration for every country in the world, you'll have a clearer view on this. But again,”
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“My view is the flag should unify people, so it's meaning will be personal to everybody. I'm amazed we don't celebrate St. George's Day more. We celebrate St. Patrick's Day. We don't celebrate St. George's Day. I'm a proud Englishman. Why don't we do that actually? You know, the flag to me means an awful lot. There's a broader argument going on that, you know, we'll never land on agreement with various stances on what that should be. But what I saw when we played was the unity that the team, you know, the beauty about England is a big Premier League game has an audience of four million in our country. Our big knights are 30 million. Nan, granddad, you know, you can remember where you were on those nights and it brings communities together. So I have seen the power that can come. And we've got to try and change the narrative in our country.”
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“Definitely. I mean, it emanated from an interview I gave to the players' tribune website. And the guy that did the interview came back and said, look, I think this would be really powerful if you put it into a letter. As with all these things, it's not just me that should take credit for that. There's people who have ideas. And I wanted to talk about my patriotism. But also recognize that actually our country is changing, the dynamics of our country are changing. For a lot of our players, they're incredibly proud to play for England. Well, you had Mauritoji on. He was incredibly proud of his Nigerian roots. And both things are possible. You know, Bukayo Seka would be like that. Mark Guay would be like that with his roots. And that is our modern country. You know, you can have both those positions. It doesn't have to be one or the other.”
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“To keep a unity as a team, I think it had a big impact on. Broader communities, you know, people from minority communities have come to me and said how important they felt those messages and those stances we took were. And that was never an attempt to be political or divisive and naturally you support unity and you disaffect some communities at the same time. So I then lost support from certain sections of our communities. The start point was how do we protect our players? How do we show them that togetherness matters that we're not prepared to accept racism?”
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“He must have experienced this his whole life. Danny is a young black player growing up in Yorkshire. Goodness knows what he faced on the pitches on a Sunday morning going through his journey. And he felt so let down by the system and couldn't even come to his manager and say, but look, this was going on. That had a huge impact on me. We then lived through the George Floyd episode and staff at the FA talking about how disaffected they felt about lack of representation in the hierarchy, in the board. We had to prepare for a game in Bulgaria where we knew there was likely to be racism on the pitch and we had really open conversations as the team about how we were going to deal with that, which I felt was hugely powerful for us because I think our black players felt supported. They felt that this issue was being recognized. And slowly we were involved in things that we hadn't set out to do in trying to...”
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“No, but you know, you do flex your style at times when I left the dressing room, had found out that during the game, Danny and Raheem Sterling had been racially abused. It was one of those stadiums where there were sections on the far side you couldn't hear from opposite touchline, but some of the television audio mics had picked things up. What bothered me was that we had a player who didn't want to come back and explain what had happened. As a talk to him afterwards was.”
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“Think we have to take a little step back to what had happened to us as a team. So there was a moment we played in Montenegro and right at the end of the game, Danny Rose, one of our players, made a ridiculous tackle. We were winning 5-0. He got a yellow card. And I'd been really strong with the team about the need for discipline because we've gone out of World Cups because of red cards. So I hammered him in the dressing room afterwards.”
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“When I played, so actually if you followed the language around our team, we talked about creating our own history a lot. And that was to free up the current players from what had gone wrong in the past and to say, look, this is your moment in time, write your own stories, write your own history.”
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“Think in football, because you face regular disappointments, you do become a bit more hardened. But I spent definitely the next six months of my England career worrying about making another mistake, which is the worst mindset to go into a performance in. If you're worried about what might go wrong, you're never going to perform at your best. And I ended up being dropped by England, which for me was then rock bottom, if you like. I was able to contextualize it's probably the worst thing professionally that will ever happen to me. And I've come through it. So now, actually, that gives me freedom to go and attack the rest of my life, if you like, in football. And that was the mindset I tried to instill in the team when I took over. We had this disconnect with the public. We hadn't want to knock out game in 10 years. They were being criticized for what had happened in my generation and they weren't responsible for what happened.”
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“We actually, you know, a lot of difference between us, but we found a lot of connection, and he's a huge patriot, you know, that night after the game at Wembley, I had dinner with him and he talked about what he had lived through and he predicted a lot of the things that were going to happen. But he said, you'll come through, you will be a stronger person for this. And I hope that, you know, my story over the last 10 years has shown young people that resilience is so important. And I think we have to really focus on that with young people today. For lots of different reasons, they don't seem as resilient and it's such an important factor in life.”
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“Stuart Pierce was incredibly helpful. I mean, he'd lived that moment himself. He's an incredible character anyway. You know, he's selfless. He'll put himself forward. You know, we didn't know each other before.”
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“I mean, I think the decision making around the penalties then was different. Not every game went to penalty shootouts like it does now, or not as many. So the processes weren't the same. I'd actually had a brilliant tournament. It was my first tournament. I'd played at a really high level. But ultimately, I've failed to execute a skill under pressure that I wasn't prepared for. And that had knocked us out of the tournament.”
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“Well, in the end, the missed penalty was the reason that we lost the game. But of course, a lot of other things have to play out. You know, the players that played for me, I would have been saying, well, the next one would still have had to be scored and then we'd have had to win the final and we're still quite a long way away. But also then my own reflection was, so I've got to rebuild. I've got to find the resilience.”
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“The moment itself, the whole country are on a tidal wave of hope and enjoyment. I mean, maybe not you, Alistair. I forgot the group match that we beat Scotland, but at that moment. Going to bed that night. I'm thinking, you know, I've now been responsible for this whole thing finishing. And how am I ever going to get over this? For the next few nights, I've got the media camped on my doorstep, which in those days was only 10 yards from the pavement because, you know, unfortunately I ended a little bit more as we went through. But they were there for three days. And in those days, it took me three days to realize I've got to get out of the country here.”
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“And yet he eviscerated him in his own way But he knew that I've got a responsibility here. And when you're in those leadership positions, and I've sat in press conferences in foreign countries and I'm a representative of our country. And if I deliver the wrong messages in those moments, there are problems for government. There are problems for bigger picture things. So you do have a responsibility with every word you use. When you're in those positions of high profile or power and how you use that power is, I think, incredibly important. And I thought that snapshot of Obama in a private reception, but he talked about the power of listening to other people's views. We won't always agree, but we can learn. And in a time where I think we have this binary arguments and no nuance, I just think that sort of message is so important.”
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“But you found yourself leaning in and waiting for what was coming. But then he knew the impact of every word he delivered So he never at any point criticized directly the current incumbent of the position he held.”
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“Just fascinated by how people present themselves at all times. So, you know, unfortunately, I'm one of those people that's always aligning what a book they read or a podcast I listen to, okay, how does that fit into the problems I'm facing? Was at a small event with Obama a couple of weeks ago, and I thought the way he communicated was incredible. He understood the power, firstly the pace of how he spoke. I mean, in some sense he felt it was a little bit slow, but he felt.”
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“In a leadership position, people will talk about why didn't we do this? Why didn't we change that? But actually, I believe one of the reasons we got as far as we did was because we stuck to my beliefs and I wasn't swayed by populist opinions. And I know the details we're dealing with. I've got all the information. Nobody else has all the information on these players. I study them more closely than anybody else in my team, you know, because the team around you is crucial. And this is the way we believe we can get as far as we did. Maybe that was wrong in a different way would have got us a trophy. But maybe a different way would have got us knocked out far earlier in all those tournaments.”
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“He stamped on me, but my tackle leading up to that wasn't a clever one. But you've got to stand your ground. You have to flex style. You have to make tough decisions. You have to stand by what you believe in.”
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“Yeah, definitely. I think there's sometimes pressure to behave differently. You know, people want, very often in football, they want a manager who's going to jump up and down on the touch line, show what they would consider passion as if that person is more passionate and driven than somebody that carries themselves differently. And I think people feel a pressure to behave differently in a leadership position. I think you've got to flex your style as well. Although people would have a perception of how I am, you know, it's not all cuddles. It's not all hugs and feel good.”
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“Correct. But a good example would be we want change. So you want to change football manager at your club. But all of the issues are still there at the club. You see that in government, people would push for a change of government tomorrow, but actually all the fundamental issues are still there. Now, somebody else has got to pick up all those issues and find a way of making it work. What the change of manager brings is hope because people short term think, get that idiot out and we'll get a new person in and everything will change. You know, what we realize is that still fundamentally you've got to try and affect these changes. And that needs time.”
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“Think that the role I had. Arguably one of the top five in terms of profile and pressure in the country. And I mean, there are so many layers to that, but I think the complexities of it, you know, I don't know enough about politics, policies. My son studies politics. He's been at King's and now at LSE. So I know I'm light years behind on that. But what I recognize is that people see simple solutions and offer simple solutions to problems and yet there are all these complex things going on behind any decision.”
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“Well, no, that was just people at county FAs. We wanted kids on smaller pitches so that they'd get more touches of the ball to develop better skills. We had eight-year-olds in full-size goals for a poor goalkeeper. So it didn't require a great amount of skill to ball in the top. And you'd travel and people would literally say, yeah, but we played 11v11 on full-sized pitches when we won the World Cup. So why do we need to change? And you had to slowly get their buy in and explain why. And I think there are ways, I think it's interesting, you know, your backgrounds in politics. How do you affect change? And how do you get buy-in to some of these things? And diplomacy has to be part of it, I think.”
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“Correct. So, when we started to deal with those organizations, I felt it was important to show a bit more humility because Way to get things done isn't necessarily just to shout from the sidelines and you've got to diplomatically work in the right way, get votes. I traveled up and down the country trying to get changes to youth football. And that was like pushing a boulder up a hill for something that in our head was so obviously common sense.”
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“Well, I'd always kept in every club for all the flaws I have. I think I've got quite good emotional intelligence. And I had to captain players that were a decade older than me and realized that, okay, they're not going to be happy with that dynamic at the start. So I've got to, I mean, I'm sure you'd have had that in the army. You'd have been leading older. Soldiers, so how do I find the right connections? How do I recognize how do I walk in their shoes? And then I was exposed to some of that by working in youth development at the FA and recognizing the dynamics with UEFA, with FIFA, that as a nation we're viewed quite arrogantly in a football sense over the years, we invented the game with EFA, not the English FA for years. There are other FAs out there world.”
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“Brought him in fortune in the transfer market to prove my point. But also, I think those countries are very serious about international football. And there's a little bit of us still here that thinks, well, can't wait for the Premier League to come back. So the man in the street really focuses on England at the moment they play. They don't think about all the issues that we're thinking about for the other 300 days of the year. And then they expect them to be absolutely world-class for that moment.”
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“Well, I think one of the things they've had, which we've had in the last few years, is good junior national teams. So there's been a focus in Spain, in Germany over the years on success at junior national level, which we was fortunate in my time there to have a national center, St. George's Park. That was a great catalyst for it feeling like a club.”
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“We have about 50 days a year. So you've got to build a culture, a way of playing. It's why international football is never quite as fluid and cohesive as club because you've got to cover the basics really. What are the basic principles that we can get to? And it's hard to build the relationships between the players that they automatically have at a club football where they're training together every day and they're working on similar patterns of play every day.”
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“Exactly. Yeah. So he wouldn't, you know, all his players are gone for the week. They'd close the training ground down. They'd have a break. But he'll be watching all of those games. Are they going to come back in the right mindset? Are they going to come back injured? So that is a problem for a club. And so you're constantly a bit of tension with the clubs over those decisions.”
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“Well, what's the benefit? You know, I think Peps used to his players going on international duty as part of his job, he understands it. He's always been at big clubs. But there's very little benefit”
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“That's a big deal when they put in. So, for some of the smaller clubs, that is significant. They're delighted to see their play at Petering.”
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“Well, they all play They did, yeah. Well, because I was prepared to pick players outside the top six country. But the reality of a decision like that for a Burnley or a Crystal Palace is you're adding about £10 million to the value of the player.”
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