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Gareth Southgate
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“Better than Joe Hart, then they signed Joe Hart. We should be picking Joe Hart. So I didn't know where I was But the reality of that is right,”
2025-11-17 · The Rest Is Politics: Leading · 162. Gareth Southgate: Patriotism, Leadership, and How To Inspire Young Men · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, with great difficulty because international football for the clubs is just a hindrance, really. If you're an owner or a manager of a Premier League club, the only thing that can really happen when your player goes away is he comes back injured. So, you know, that's not quite true because if you're a Burnley, We might as well come to this, Rory, because half of my life was in England manager was accepting text from. That's the recommending Burney's goalkeeper, whoever it was at the time, because I did have a string of good ones. You must pick Heaton. Three months later, my God, this Pope's miles better than Heaton.”
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“They rebranded the top division, but I was thinking, well, not many people had sky television then. So it was the beginning of Sky. And of course, it worked brilliantly for Sky to have that product. But I just thought, well, this is a rebranding. And a different take. The cheerleaders on the pitch. But actually, the facilities started to be updated, the investment. I mean, David Dean's brilliant at talking about all of this, isn't he? He was behind that move to a different stage of our lives.”
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“Yeah, absolutely. So we went from a game where the star players would be on the bus home With fans, and I was very fortunate, I played at a time where I had the enjoyment of the profile being lower when I was a young idiot going out for a drink after a game. But then I benefited from the start of the Premier League and the money that came into the game. And that's purely television contracts, you know, the success of the Premier League itself, which is a brilliant global product for us as a country, is entirely down to the television contracts. And then that's brought investment from around the world, people that want to be part of that story.”
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“Yeah, basically. Yeah, he thought, and he was right. I was physically still maturing and I found the transition from schoolboy football to this being a job and a living and people's livelihood depending on it because we're going back to a time when... Needed the wind bonus to pay your mortgage. So that cutthroat nature of it took a lot of adaptation for me.”
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“Well, I might have listened if it was pitched in the way that there's going to be something after this. So keep all those options open. Because as a young player, I did go and write for the local newspaper. My use coach was in commercial property. So I'd go and in the afternoon he had measuring up shops to do rent reviews and things. So I was lucky that I had a mentor who guided me in a different way and didn't just bombard me with football.”
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“You're talking about a couple of thousand in the academy system. And we're not now competing, you know, when I started, if you're one of the best in Britain, you were in the Premier League. Now that's global. So most Premier League teams probably have two, maybe three English qualified players starting. So this talent pathway for kids is even more difficult. And we should talk to kids more about what they don't want to hear is you might not make it. They're not going to consider that. But I think if we said, look, if you're going to be a professional sportsman or woman, you're going to have a second career. So let's frame that differently and think about how you might prepare for that next part of your life as well, because that's coming at some point.”
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“Yeah, I don't think we deal with that very well as a game. I mean, there's two points at which you are likely to exit a life in sport. One is like any talent pathway, rejection early, and that can have a devastating effect on someone's life. And the other is retirement at whatever point that comes and you've got to find a new identity and a new way forward. And the game takes, if you think about every club, 92 clubs, most take 15 kids every year So that's across six or seven age bands from 10 upwards. That's a huge number of kids in the system. And in the Premier League every Saturday, only 220 players start.”
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“I think you're right to suggest that is that the right place to look for our role models? You know, these are guys that have committed, have a skill in one area. They are going to make mistakes. They're young men. They're going to make errors in judgment, but they're going to have influence on young people, the profile and their visibility and the platform they have now. They're going to have influence on people. So they have to accept whilst I would argue that's not where we should necessarily be looking for role models. For certain parts of the population, certain communities, they are going to be role models. I used to talk to the boys when they got their first cap. This is going to mean so much to you, your family, but also the community that you've come from because people will look at them and say that I can achieve that. I might be able to achieve that. There is a way out of the estate I live in or the area I live in.”
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“They wanted me to commit to education, but also backed me with my sport. My grandfather was ex-Royal Marines, so there were little things that I think as a kid, you listen, sometimes you listen to what your parents say, but you definitely observe their behaviour as you pick up, you mimic things. He used to be polishing his shoes every morning. He was always in a tie. He'd always take his hat off when he walked past ladies in the street. He'd give his seat up on the bus. So there are things that I take as normal. Behaviors that I would expect from people that I recognize now I was role modelling what they were doing basically.”
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“Well, I would view it as a very normal childhood. But what I realize now is normal is something that we shouldn't take for granted. We did lots of courses on youth development when I was at the FA. And one of the things that they talk about is the importance of attachment theory. So the early years of a child's life that you feel love gives you confidence. And I think helps you with relationships throughout your life, trust. worked with lots of boys who building trust is a key area. And it's something I took for... Normality with my parents, they were supportive, not pushy.”
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“Yeah, my first, well, I was a schoolboy at Southampton as a kid and I was released at 13. And the local club to us was Crystal Palace, but that was 25 miles from where I lived. So I used to have to get two trains to get to training. And anybody that knows South London knows there's a lot of street-wise kids. I was at school in Sussex down in Crawley. normal comprehensive 1500 kids, but I was always a bit of an introvert. I suppose in football terms pretty sensible, not a high bar, I accept. And so I didn't naturally fit with some of the other lads in the dressing room. I got my 8 O levels, failed my English literature dismally, but my mum wanted me to stay and do A-levels, but I didn't think that was an option. I needed to throw myself into the game, otherwise I wouldn't have progressed.”
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“Whole country are on a tidal wave of hope and enjoyment. At that moment, I'm thinking, you know, I've now been responsible for this whole thing finishing. And how am I ever going to get over this? So I've got the media camped on my doorstep. It took me three days to realize I've got to get out of the country here. The role I had was one of the top five in terms of profile and pressure. We hadn't want to knock out game in 10 years. They were being criticised for what had happened in my generation. So actually we talked about creating our own history a lot to free up the current players from what had gone wrong in the past and to say, look, this is your moment in time. Write your own history.”
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