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Garry Kasparov

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“It's because his concentration could... overboard Magnus. Magnus concentration was all his strength. He was always very concentrated. He could mobilize all his resources for the game. Now we saw Magnus could feel, again, it's my educated guest, so hasn't even qualified for the candidates. It still has to win it. But Wesley saw Magnus could have some serious problems in reading his opponent and also just messing up his energy. So could reflect. I think Mattus Corona could be also uncertain. And if Veshelle Graf makes some improvements more psychological improvements, he could be also dangerous. It's the same age. Caruana's younger so is even younger than Caruana. So I would bet on these three as... One of the Magnus Challenger ranking them in the following quarter. So Caruana MVL.”
2017-05-10 · Conversations with Tyler · Garry Kasparov on AI, Chess, and the Future of Creativity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Considering the logic of the World Championship history, Magnus should face opposition from a young player or the same age. I would say there are three players that I guess could challenge him. Maxim Vachel Grafra. I would rate him as least probable among these three. Second, Caruana. and the most likely Wesley saw. The reason I put Wesley ahead of two others is that he has phenomenal concentration. Absolutely phenomenal. And it's very important. These days, concentration I would put it on top of other things, though he's a very, very good player. And I think that he might be among these three, he might be the most dangerous for Magnus.”
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“If you play at home, and just think about an aunt and Magnus, or you're a guest, so it's a pressure on both players. It's just the extra pressure, and it depends who can handle it better. But since Magnus beat Anand Bos in Chennai and in Sochi next year, I don't think that the factor of the whole factor or guess factor played a major role.”
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“It could be advantage, it could be disadvantaged because it's a pressure you play at home. Anyway, I never played at home because my home was, except, okay, 1980, I played in Baku. It was a tournament when I made my second GM Grandmaster's norm. But that was not such a big challenge. Of course, people wanted me to win, but I was much stronger in the rest of the field. It was all about me competing with Beljaski for the first prize. Everyone knew I would be a grandmaster there. Big matches When I played Moscow, it was Karpov or just other events, it was not considered to be home. So what's the, though I was not very successful in Moscow when you look at overall performance?”
2017-05-10 · Conversations with Tyler · Garry Kasparov on AI, Chess, and the Future of Creativity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You play chess. Paris is always Paris. But again, the results were perfect, nearly perfect. And I'm just thinking about other places. No, but I don't think that's...”
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“He said he never distracts you and I want four of them and I was in the final in all five. So in terms of, again, rating my performance, I don't think any CD will come close to Paris.”
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“I did well. Now, in terms of perfect results, I would say Paris. I played a few events, but most remarkably five Rapid Chess tournaments.”
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“Exactly, but mistakes always made. But we're talking about the performance. That's why we can look at the productivity, look at what people can do by inventing new things. So the moment they're under pressure, you can expect that part of the group will perform way above expectations.”
2017-05-10 · Conversations with Tyler · Garry Kasparov on AI, Chess, and the Future of Creativity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But we also know that the doom saying has been always a very popular pastor. Because it's easy, you know, it's us against them, the race against the machines, the war against the machines. You can sell it. And I think it's important that people will stop looking at this either from utopian point of view. Oh, we'll just get together, we'll fly to Alpha Santavara with Machines. They will serve us in this endless spaceflight. Or to the contrary, it's a skynet that is going to kill all of us. It's a process. It's a process and we should be objective. This is not too optimistic, not dark pessimism, but something that is more human, which is, look, let's get objective, let's assess our chances, and let's realize this is a process of developing further human civilization. And compared to the fears that people had about machines in 90s or 20th century, we're not pioneers.”
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“My answer is, I don't know, and that's what I believe is good, because that tells us that there's so much to learn in this process. And for those who are predicting that AI is just around the corner and is going to wipe us out, they don't know what they're talking about.”
2017-05-10 · Conversations with Tyler · Garry Kasparov on AI, Chess, and the Future of Creativity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, that also tells us that the machines, that's an interesting observation from also my experience, that machines also have, you may call psychology, the pattern in decision making. And if you understand this pattern, so we can make certain predictions. So it's not all predetermined. There's so many things that can go one way or another. And that means that we will not be run by these. Mystical AI. It's not perfect. It's far from perfect. There's so many IRS. It doesn't know how to cover. Even setting aside a simple question whether the brains can function effectively separately from the body. So what does it mean that you have brains that are not part of the moving body? So can you separate it and still have the same effect?”
2017-05-10 · Conversations with Tyler · Garry Kasparov on AI, Chess, and the Future of Creativity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Because you have a position that is roughly even, is maneuvers and they go around the pieces from one side to another. And then suddenly one machine makes a, you may call human mistake. Suddenly it loses patience and it tries to break up without a good reason behind it.”
2017-05-10 · Conversations with Tyler · Garry Kasparov on AI, Chess, and the Future of Creativity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Now, I think you can confirm my observations that there's something strange in these games. First of all, they're longer, of course. They're much longer because machines don't make the same mistakes, so they could play 70, 80 moves, 100 moves. So seven days is a normal length. Still, by the way, it's still 780 moves. It's still not fine. It's way, way below what we expect from perfect chess. That's that tells us that Pashin's not perfect. But most of these games are decided by one of the machines. Suddenly, can I call it losing patience?”
2017-05-10 · Conversations with Tyler · Garry Kasparov on AI, Chess, and the Future of Creativity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Now that brings us to another point. So maybe with machines, we can actually move our knowledge much further and we can understand how to play decent games at much greater lengths. Now, going back to computer chess, and I don't know how much time you spend looking at computer matches.”
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“So clueless in the entire universe. Exactly. So it's an interesting philosophical work question. And I have to confess, I don't know the answer.”
2017-05-10 · Conversations with Tyler · Garry Kasparov on AI, Chess, and the Future of Creativity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, no, no. There's no intelligence at all. It's just pieces moving around. I saw the position with King Turks, a knight on one side and king to Rooks and on the other side. And it said mate in 490 moves. Forced mate Now, I can tell you that even being a very decent player, for the first 400 moves, Hardly understand why these pieces moved around like a dance. It's endless dance around the board. You don't see any pattern. Trust me, no pattern because they move from one side to another and Certain points I say, oh, but white even white position even deteriorated. It was better 50 moves before. Now, the question is, and this is a big question, so if there are certain positions These endgames like 7 piece endgames that take by the best play of both sides 500 moves to win the game.”
2017-05-10 · Conversations with Tyler · Garry Kasparov on AI, Chess, and the Future of Creativity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Be surprised. In some of these positions, like there are certain seven pieces positions. When the wind, and we're talking about the forced wind, can be reached within 500 moves. Now 500 moves. I remember I looked at some of the positions, even at six pieces position.”
2017-05-10 · Conversations with Tyler · Garry Kasparov on AI, Chess, and the Future of Creativity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But I want to finish this because Because what we discovered in this process, I mean, I wouldn't overweight... Listeners with all these details, I don't want just to to throw them the massive information.”
2017-05-10 · Conversations with Tyler · Garry Kasparov on AI, Chess, and the Future of Creativity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Mathematically solved all positions with four pieces, like king and queen versus king and rook. All positions was five pieces. All positions was six pieces. And now seven pieces. Seven pieces, it's on the way. I'm not sure it's all solved, but we're talking about 100 terabytes. Now, obviously, eight pieces will be already just insane number, and the game of jess ultimate endgame with 32 pieces. So that's why maybe machines will get to eight or nine moves, but that will probably be the end, even for the immense computing power that you can expect in the next five, ten, 20 years.”
2017-05-10 · Conversations with Tyler · Garry Kasparov on AI, Chess, and the Future of Creativity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But now you move back to this chess computers. And there's certain things that people should realize because I hate talking about these things using a bird language because it's the, you ask me questions and I'm not sure that 99% of our listeners, they understand exactly what we're talking about. Now, there's one thing for people to understand is that chess is you may call mathematical infinite game. So the number of legal moves is more than number of atoms in the solar system. So machines cannot solve the game. You cannot expect machine to play E2E4 at move one and announcing made in 16,455 moves. But machines could work the game of chess from the end. So now we know that machines solved.”
2017-05-10 · Conversations with Tyler · Garry Kasparov on AI, Chess, and the Future of Creativity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I didn't check. It depends on the relation of King B6 because they will see immediately, even without calculating the whole combination. They will see immediately that white could force a draw. By the way, that's what Topalov thought, that I will need to make a draw. White with force and draw while after king B6 every engine shows immediately that black is battle. I mean slightly better, but the evaluation is clearly in black's favor so that's why they wouldn't take the rook. Now I don't remember whether rook takes the, I think at that time White had no choice but to take on the four because otherwise the whole position”
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“Nobody look at the game. You simply remember I don't remember the exact number of the moves. I can reconstruct the game, but when I said Rook 88, I was actually to figure out when you played Queen C4. And of course, exactly. Then it would end up with the endgame when I would be changed down, but I had Rook and Bishop and several pawns for his two Rooks.”
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“Anxious to reach the position and to demonstrate how far I could see. And also I was amazed by the beauty of this geometry.”
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“It's much better for why though it's not winning. So the move pointed by Kavalik Ruke 7 immediately would be winning by force. So it would be made in net that Black couldn't escape from where Black couldn't escape. But because I saw this, it's all the way up to the rook D7. So I just, and you look at the time I spent, I played almost blitz because I was so...”
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“It was so easily and I didn't just look for obvious Muslim black, by the way, both me and Tropalov missed a much better defense for black that could prevent this combination, though of course the endgame. You mean third?”
2017-05-10 · Conversations with Tyler · Garry Kasparov on AI, Chess, and the Future of Creativity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Exactly. And he kept very good position. But I knew that it was already good for me, though I was not sure about the outcome immediately. But within Move or 2, actually I saw the whole line. And I was quite lucky, but at the same time, it prevented me from finding the forced win in the middle of the combination because at one point I made a second rate move.”
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“Not sure exactly at what point I saw the final combination. But first of all, after playing Rook T4, I mean, I knew I was, you know, if he would have taken the rook, which was a mistake. Right.”
2017-05-10 · Conversations with Tyler · Garry Kasparov on AI, Chess, and the Future of Creativity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Roselle playing chess professionally, but that's again, that's not the rule. That's not happening with other players, though some of them, I'm sure, could do extremely well. By the way, some of them were very good business people, some of them made good investments. If you look at some of the British grandmasters or other players in Europe. No rule, but I think that's the chess helps to some of them to have to find the right approach to their new endeavor. It may not be specific. For instance, I'm more of humanitarian, so I prefer history, literature, I guess I'm a good speaker, but I'm not as good in number crunching. So it's very important to understand what you're good at. That's what just helps you. So to recognize what is your strength and also to be very open about your own weaknesses.”
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“No, no, he was a very good by any standard. And that makes him unique. So whether it was top 100 or not, but somewhere there in the world. At his peak in mid 70s, I don't think that the aptitude of playing chess is anything but aptitude of playing chess. So there's no universal rule. Some people could move to other areas. I was very, very... Lucky that I could grew up with my mother who helped me to get education outside of chess. And I always had various interests and looked for life in saniety. And that's why after I stopped playing professionally in 2005, then already with the help of my wife, so I could move from chess to other areas. And I have a very full life.”
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“No, no, no, no, but he was a very strong grandmother. This is the man who played professional chess. Because the moment you say very good chess player, some people think, oh, maybe a good club player. Very good by...”
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“But let's see this. How specialized is talent? But you talk to the very general audience. When you say a very good chess player, you have to explain. Top five.”
2017-05-10 · Conversations with Tyler · Garry Kasparov on AI, Chess, and the Future of Creativity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, Dostoevsky underrated. Because it's all about human nature. That doesn't matter whether you live in Russia, in the second quarter of the third quarter of the 19th century or in the first quarter of the 21st century. This is the human emotions, the human temptations, the human reactions, they are still very much the same.”
2017-05-10 · Conversations with Tyler · Garry Kasparov on AI, Chess, and the Future of Creativity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Ajimurad is phenomenal. There are many of them phenomenal. The problem was that there's sometimes there's so much philosophy in a war on peace that it's just, I think it's outdated.”
2017-05-10 · Conversations with Tyler · Garry Kasparov on AI, Chess, and the Future of Creativity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Don't know, but Will definitely add probably 100 rating points. So the reason I'm thinking about your question, and I have some difficulty answering this question, is that for how long will it stay secret? Because people will start. The moment people see new... Look, in the match, if you're talking about a database given to a world championship, one of the participants of the match, say Korcharpov.”
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“No, but it's just over. I looked at these openings and I just came to the conclusion that they just simply don't stand modern technique of defense and counterattack. They're not feasible. If you are looking for good game, professional game, they're not feasible. By the way, I was the one who reinvented and brought back the Scotch at the Evans Gambit. But I just have to realize that, okay, I don't play anymore. But the way the chess has developed made most of these openings, not all of them, but mainly gambits, simply not feasible weapons at the top level.”
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“It's a great piece of history, but it has no relevance today. So that's why again... It doesn't pass my test of connecting the past and the present and the future. There's certain things that stay in the past because there were great moments in the game of chess. These gambits helped to create beautiful games that we can still enjoy”
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“Yes, It's a mixture. I also don't like when it says films, so it's the... Overall, I Not a biggest fan, so I picked up one or two movies, but as I mentioned, Stalker. But otherwise. I'm not the greatest fan.”
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“Again, I'm always looking for the books that just, you know, they are about something else, about days that were this distant past. But again, there's something that is so... This is so close because it's we're humans and certain images from these books we could see in today's political arena.”
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“If we're talking about the nature or human nature, all kingsmen. Yeah, Robert Penn World War. So that's the... Eyes of March. As Thorne”
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“It's hard to explain for people who did not grow up in the Soviet Union because it has so many unique aspects that were close to the hearts of people who experienced communism and the life under this draconian laws. But it's a unique combination of visiting history and going back to the days of Jesus and telling us in a very regional form, the classical biblical story and projecting it to the life in Moscow in the 30s. And for those of us read it in the 70s and 80s, we still could actually feel that it was because it was about human nature. It was just that it reminded us that human nature doesn't change. With all the progress, people still have the same vulnerabilities, the same weaknesses, the same temptations. And this connection of times from the ancient days to modern days, for me it still stands.”
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“The trade republics in the northwest of Russia, like Novgorodomskov, that those entities were fully integrated into European political and trade space. And maybe what is happening now in Ukraine and what will happen eventually in Russia, it will be the final showdown between Kiev's Russia and the pro-European Russia and the dominant tradition that was inherited by Moscow from the Golden Horde and Byzantine Empire and Russia will reinvent itself and will go back to its original roots.”
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“I think that if we try to make some projections in the future, you can hardly imagine Russia surviving as a state in its current borders, though I'm not sure it's feasible at all with all the pressure from China and radical Islam, from the east and from the south. But for Russia to find its spot in the family of civilized nations in the 21st century, it has no other choice but to work with Europe and the United States. And also going back to this Russian-Ukrainian conflict, and now open war in eastern Ukraine, we can revisit early days of Russian history going back nearly 1,000 years and to remind people that there was another Russia, actually, the cradle of Russian civilization was Kiev's Russia.”
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“Will it be a democracy? The answer is no, it's not going to be democratic next day, but I'm strongly resisting the idea, popular idea in Russia and now in the free world as well, that Putin's collapse could lead to even something even worse. They say, open fastest dictatorship, as if today in Russia we don't have a fascist dictatorship. No one or no other group that will replace Putin in power will have the same ability to cause damage inside the country and outside of the country. And most likely these groups will try to communicate to the West, to find some kind of understanding and to reduce the tension. So while I don't expect an immediate democratic reconstruction in Russia after Putin's collapse, I think that Putin's fall, Putin's demise will serve Russia. And also will help to reduce the pressure with our neighbors.”
2017-05-10 · Conversations with Tyler · Garry Kasparov on AI, Chess, and the Future of Creativity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Exactly. They have to look for a compromise because they know that they're all part of the same system. And if the system goes down, they all could lose everything. Putin doesn't have to listen to it. Okay, he may listen, but he doesn't have to listen to these advices. And his powers are limited by this by other elite groups. All he has to do, and he proved to be a very capable dictator to make sure that these groups are fighting each other. And he could be kind of a judged on top of that. I always call it a spine of the system, which means that if he goes down, you don't expect just a simple transition of power.”
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“For new wars and new very aggressive moves, international moves, because his power is not limited. Every group of people, even the worst of people, the mafia families, they always come to more balanced decisions because there's always a search for some kind of compromise.”
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“I don't know whether there's a path to democracy, so what I know is that it's the regimes like Putin's, their most aggressive and most dangerous because it's not even Soviet Union or modern China where you had As in the USSR, or we have today as in China, a Politburo Central Committee of the Communist Party. So a group of people, very powerful people calling all the shots. Putin's Russia is a one-man dictatorship. And dictator doesn't care about the future of the country or about transition of power. There's nothing Interest for him if he's gone because normally it's not the retirement. He loses power, he loses everything, including very often his own life. So he will be desperate in protecting this power and throwing all resources in his disposal to stay on the top. So that's why he is less sensitive.”
2017-05-10 · Conversations with Tyler · Garry Kasparov on AI, Chess, and the Future of Creativity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Gradual transition of power from one president to another after sitting President Leon Kraftuk lost elections and walked away. So Ukrainians somehow got an idea that power is not sacred and the government can come and go and they can remove it by voting. And even despite the fact that Ukraine never experienced higher living standards than Russia. People realize that keeping this freedom, keeping this ability to influence the bureaucrats and government through a peaceful process of voting and, if necessary, striking, far more effective than Russia's quote-unquote stability were the same leader could be in charge of the country with his corrupt clique for a long, long time.”
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“Separated anything. They read the same newspaper Pravda, watched the same television, spoke the very same language, not even accents. But somehow in 2014, after Putin's annexation of Crimea and invasion of eastern Ukraine, We saw a huge difference. Most of ethnic Russians in Ukraine signed for Ukrainian army, fighting against Putin's invasion, against the same Russians that came from other side. Again, it could be a long debate, but I would say that one of the main reasons is that Ukraine experienced in 1994”
2017-05-10 · Conversations with Tyler · Garry Kasparov on AI, Chess, and the Future of Creativity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Some nations that are close to each other now move in the opposite directions. Let's look at Russia and Ukraine and let's look not at the whole Ukraine, but just at eastern Ukraine Eastern Ukraine is populated by mostly by ethnic Russians. In the former Soviet Union, the borders between republics, they were very nominal. So people could move around. It was not a big deal Even after the collapse of the Soviet Union, the official state border between Russia and Ukraine was respected, but people still could move around and they didn't need a special visas. So when we look at ethnic Russians born and raised in Kursk and Belgrade on the Russian side, and across the border say in Kharkov and Dnipropetrovsk, on Ukrainian side, there were people that could be hardly”
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“Exactly. And the same nation. But then obviously we can talk about two Germanists, but I would rather look now to China and Taiwan. Again, the same people, and we could see the difference. Obviously China is growing, but comparing to dynamism and political stability of Taiwan, Taiwan is just a small rocky island with 20 plus million people versus... 1. Whatever billion Chinese continental China. And we could see that Taiwan is far more advanced, more dynamic. The separation happened at the same time. Now We can even look, because you just mentioned Asia and Russia, Asia and Europe. We can even look at former Soviet Union and try to analyze from our knowledge of 2017 what's happened after collapse of the Soviet Union and why certain”
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